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Discuss the topic, not the people discussing the topic. No personal comments. Look your comments over before hitting Submit and be sure you're debating THE TOPIC.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
They're not denying.muskydan said:
And Yet still many people on here will deny deny deny..... They live amongst us all over the USA, be ready and never doubt your instincts...BS44325 said:
No camps. That's your term not mine. Just providing the evidence to those who requested it.dignin said:
I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?BS44325 said:For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:
https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289
Just busy in their group hug and being distracted is all.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
I look over all my comments before hitting submit.rgambs said:
Discuss the topic, not the people discussing the topic. No personal comments. Look your comments over before hitting Submit and be sure you're debating THE TOPIC.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
They're not denying.muskydan said:
And Yet still many people on here will deny deny deny..... They live amongst us all over the USA, be ready and never doubt your instincts...BS44325 said:
No camps. That's your term not mine. Just providing the evidence to those who requested it.dignin said:
I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?BS44325 said:For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:
https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289
Just busy in their group hug and being distracted is all.
The topic is Paris attacks.
Some people want to hope and pray this problem away.
But yet when a war is waged against the people who do this the very same people don't really mind.
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Cliffy6745 said:
What the fuck are you two numbskulls talking about?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
They're not denying.muskydan said:
And Yet still many people on here will deny deny deny..... They live amongst us all over the USA, be ready and never doubt your instincts...BS44325 said:
No camps. That's your term not mine. Just providing the evidence to those who requested it.dignin said:
I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?BS44325 said:For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:
https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289
Just busy in their group hug and being distracted is all.
Distracted from what? The fact a terrorist attack could happen here? Okay captain obvious, they have for decades
Pay attention buddy boy, your life may depend on it someday. If you have not turned soft over the years after 9/11 like many in this country then apologizeCliffy6745 said:
What the fuck are you two numbskulls talking about?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
They're not denying.muskydan said:
And Yet still many people on here will deny deny deny..... They live amongst us all over the USA, be ready and never doubt your instincts...BS44325 said:
No camps. That's your term not mine. Just providing the evidence to those who requested it.dignin said:
I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?BS44325 said:For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:
https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289
Just busy in their group hug and being distracted is all.
Distracted from what? The fact a terrorist attack could happen here? Okay captain obvious, they have for decades0 -
Happy to hear you and two of your friends are OK. Sending good vibes your way, and hoping your third friend found their way home.Tristelune said:Couldn't attend the show as we were supposed to, had three close friends in the concert hall, two are alive and well, can't get news from the third.
We have a proverb here that says "violence is the weaks' mean of expression" Let's be strong and have no fear, love.
Jeremie0 -
Says the guy calling people trolls.rgambs said:
Discuss the topic, not the people discussing the topic. No personal comments. Look your comments over before hitting Submit and be sure you're debating THE TOPIC.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
They're not denying.muskydan said:
And Yet still many people on here will deny deny deny..... They live amongst us all over the USA, be ready and never doubt your instincts...BS44325 said:
No camps. That's your term not mine. Just providing the evidence to those who requested it.dignin said:
I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?BS44325 said:For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:
https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289
Just busy in their group hug and being distracted is all."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Because they are.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Says the guy calling people trolls.rgambs said:
Discuss the topic, not the people discussing the topic. No personal comments. Look your comments over before hitting Submit and be sure you're debating THE TOPIC.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
They're not denying.muskydan said:
And Yet still many people on here will deny deny deny..... They live amongst us all over the USA, be ready and never doubt your instincts...BS44325 said:
No camps. That's your term not mine. Just providing the evidence to those who requested it.dignin said:
I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?BS44325 said:For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:
https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289
Just busy in their group hug and being distracted is all.0 -
My thoughts are with you, your family and friends. Hoping too that your 3rd friend is okay.Tristelune said:Couldn't attend the show as we were supposed to, had three close friends in the concert hall, two are alive and well, can't get news from the third.
We have a proverb here that says "violence is the weaks' mean of expression" Let's be strong and have no fear, love.
Jeremie
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Yeah, I fed the troll, that was my bad. Sometimes I can't stop myself. I am tired of the baiting and mocking that constantly comes from pjfan. This thread deserves more respect than she is capable of posting with, maybe I will be the next poster contributing thoughts and opinions who gets banned for calling bullshit when it's being smeared on the walls of a civil discussion.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Says the guy calling people trolls.rgambs said:
Discuss the topic, not the people discussing the topic. No personal comments. Look your comments over before hitting Submit and be sure you're debating THE TOPIC.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
They're not denying.muskydan said:
And Yet still many people on here will deny deny deny..... They live amongst us all over the USA, be ready and never doubt your instincts...BS44325 said:
No camps. That's your term not mine. Just providing the evidence to those who requested it.dignin said:
I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?BS44325 said:For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:
https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289
Just busy in their group hug and being distracted is all.
So be it.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
153 people are dead. Stop bickering your partisan bullshit for one second.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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Me soft? You're the one that sounds like a paranoid little school girlmuskydan said:Cliffy6745 said:
What the fuck are you two numbskulls talking about?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
They're not denying.muskydan said:
And Yet still many people on here will deny deny deny..... They live amongst us all over the USA, be ready and never doubt your instincts...BS44325 said:
No camps. That's your term not mine. Just providing the evidence to those who requested it.dignin said:
I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?BS44325 said:For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:
https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289
Just busy in their group hug and being distracted is all.
Distracted from what? The fact a terrorist attack could happen here? Okay captain obvious, they have for decades
Pay attention buddy boy, your life may depend on it someday. If you have not turned soft over the years after 9/11 like many in this country then apologizeCliffy6745 said:
What the fuck are you two numbskulls talking about?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
They're not denying.muskydan said:
And Yet still many people on here will deny deny deny..... They live amongst us all over the USA, be ready and never doubt your instincts...BS44325 said:
No camps. That's your term not mine. Just providing the evidence to those who requested it.dignin said:
I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?BS44325 said:For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:
https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289
Just busy in their group hug and being distracted is all.
Distracted from what? The fact a terrorist attack could happen here? Okay captain obvious, they have for decades0 -
Good thoughts from here too. I can't imagine the weight of grief and loss there right now...hope little pockets of comfort are to be found.dignin said:
Happy to hear you and two of your friends are OK. Sending good vibes your way, and hoping your third friend found their way home.Tristelune said:Couldn't attend the show as we were supposed to, had three close friends in the concert hall, two are alive and well, can't get news from the third.
We have a proverb here that says "violence is the weaks' mean of expression" Let's be strong and have no fear, love.
Jeremie
(by the way, how feeling sadness and sending well-wishes to those close to such horror would be met with condescension is beyond me)0 -
Discuss the topic, not the people discussing the topic. No personal comments. Look your comments over before hitting Submit and be sure you're debating THE TOPIC.rgambs said:
Yeah, I fed the troll, that was my bad. Sometimes I can't stop myself. I am tired of the baiting and mocking that constantly comes from pjfan. This thread deserves more respect than she is capable of posting with, maybe I will be the next poster contributing thoughts and opinions who gets banned for calling bullshit when it's being smeared on the walls of a civil discussion.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Says the guy calling people trolls.rgambs said:
Discuss the topic, not the people discussing the topic. No personal comments. Look your comments over before hitting Submit and be sure you're debating THE TOPIC.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
They're not denying.muskydan said:
And Yet still many people on here will deny deny deny..... They live amongst us all over the USA, be ready and never doubt your instincts...BS44325 said:
No camps. That's your term not mine. Just providing the evidence to those who requested it.dignin said:
I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?BS44325 said:For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:
https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289
Just busy in their group hug and being distracted is all.
So be it.0 -
Fuckin A, Hugh.HughFreakingDillon said:153 people are dead. Stop bickering your partisan bullshit for one second.
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I wonder if this will impact Justin Trudeau's promise to bring 25,000 refugees to Canada.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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Maybe, but I hope not.HughFreakingDillon said:I wonder if this will impact Justin Trudeau's promise to bring 25,000 refugees to Canada.
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Good wishes to all of your country in this sad horrific event ...condolences to all affected !Tristelune said:Couldn't attend the show as we were supposed to, had three close friends in the concert hall, two are alive and well, can't get news from the third.
We have a proverb here that says "violence is the weaks' mean of expression" Let's be strong and have no fear, love.
Jeremiejesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
I think it will have unfortunate consequences for all refugees everywhere. It is a sad day for humanity.HughFreakingDillon said:I wonder if this will impact Justin Trudeau's promise to bring 25,000 refugees to Canada.
Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
I'm afraid that in France they will have to really clamp down on their citizens with Muslim background cause now that they have confirmation that one of the perpetrators was a French citizen , how the hell do they prevent anymore suicide missions .....jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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I hope you get to hear some good news of your friend. Courage !Tristelune said:Couldn't attend the show as we were supposed to, had three close friends in the concert hall, two are alive and well, can't get news from the third.
We have a proverb here that says "violence is the weaks' mean of expression" Let's be strong and have no fear, love.
Jeremie
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There was a huge thread about the refugees. Got so heated it got closed last month. Another one was made, but people realized they couldn't discuss it civilly so the second thread died.bootlegger10 said:
It is okay if you don't want to have discussion. You don't need to come to the message board. This is the largest mass migration of people since WW2 and there is not a word of it on this message board and it is ludicrous to think that there won't be any negative consequences. The solution to the Middle East problem is not mass migration to Europe.rgambs said:
I find it to be distasteful and disrespectful to jump to blaming refugees when you have zero evidence and the bodies are practically still warm.bootlegger10 said:
First, clearly it is some sort of Islamic radicalism be it Al Qaeda, ISIS, or some one off Islamic militant cell. i have not said anything about nuking anyone or killing anyone. I have not said to let the refugees die in Syria. You make me out to be a bad person when damnit I just want to make sure Europe stays safe. Ya know what, there are plenty of people that agree with me, hence the border fences being built in Eastern Europe and plenty of Europeans ready to kick out liberal politicians.rgambs said:Perhaps before we grab pitchforks and form a mob to round up the evil refugees we should wait for a shred of verified Intel...
Nahhhh bootlegger and dirtyfrank are right, we should jump to conclusions and make broad assumptions, that's the right move. Let's not even wait a few hours, let's use this as an opportunity to push our agenda while the dust is literally still settling.
I would love to visit a stable Syria and see the ancient ruins and experience the culture there. I am not anti-Muslim just don't think a wave of tens of millions of refugees will be good for Europe in the long run.
There will be time enough to talk about who to blame and what to do next when there are at least a few details available.
Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves, IMHO.
This Paris attack isn't the first terrorist attack in Europe, but one of many. It isn't like we need the facts right now about this Paris attack to confirm whether there are Islamic terrorists in Europe. This attack could have been staged by the Girl Scouts but that doesn't mean there isn't an issue in Europe with Islamic extremism and large, large disenfranchisement of Muslim youth (I.e., French and Swedish riots in previous years). If you can't see that Europe is changing significantly then I don't know what to tell you. If you also can't recognize that there are millions of Europeans that don't agree with the immigration of refugees and if you cannot empathise with their position then YOU should be ashamed.
You think that German town of 100 that took in 750 refugees will ever be the same? Do you care about those 100 people at all?
Seems to me like at least some of these terrorists were home grown in Europe and eother way there is nothing siggesting any have something to do with refugees.
Closing our hearts to people in need, to people who are running from the same people we are condemning today, will NOT stop attacks like these, but will make us worse people.
I am DISGUSTED that so many people are using this as a reason to turn their backs on desperate, innocent people who are victims right along with the people who were attacked in Paris yesterday.Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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