Paris Attacks

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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    BS44325 said:

    For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289

    I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    edited November 2015
    JimmyV said:

    BS44325 said:

    JimmyV said:

    Why take your passport with you on a suicide mission? These guys wanted it to be found.

    They are proud of their accomplishments. They glorify in their martyrdom. Somewhere there is an old lady bringing these murderer's families candy.
    But they are also manipulative. This guy had his passport registered as being a refugee and then took that passport with him on a suicide attack. Gotta believe he did that to tie these attacks to the refugees. Purposeful and deliberate.
    They are soldiers in a war to the death. Everything they do is purposeful and deliberate.
    Post edited by BS44325 on
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289

    I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?
    No camps. That's your term not mine. Just providing the evidence to those who requested it.
  • TristeluneTristelune Posts: 318
    edited November 2015
    Couldn't attend the show as we were supposed to, had three close friends in the concert hall, two are alive and well, can't get news from the third.

    We have a proverb here that says "violence is the weaks' mean of expression" Let's be strong and have no fear, love.

    Jeremie
  • eddieceddiec Posts: 3,881
    BS44325 said:

    For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289

    We'll have to wait to see if that is confirmed.

  • muskydanmuskydan Posts: 1,013
    BS44325 said:

    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289

    I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?
    No camps. That's your term not mine. Just providing the evidence to those who requested it.
    And Yet still many people on here will deny deny deny..... They live amongst us all over the USA, be ready and never doubt your instincts...

  • muskydan said:

    BS44325 said:

    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289

    I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?
    No camps. That's your term not mine. Just providing the evidence to those who requested it.
    And Yet still many people on here will deny deny deny..... They live amongst us all over the USA, be ready and never doubt your instincts...

    They're not denying.
    Just busy in their group hug and being distracted is all.
  • eddieceddiec Posts: 3,881

    muskydan said:

    BS44325 said:

    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289

    I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?
    No camps. That's your term not mine. Just providing the evidence to those who requested it.
    And Yet still many people on here will deny deny deny..... They live amongst us all over the USA, be ready and never doubt your instincts...

    They're not denying.
    Just busy in their group hug and being distracted is all.
    That's it. All the liberals are sitting around, smoking joints and hugging each other. Your tone has such a McCarthy-like zeal.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840

    muskydan said:

    BS44325 said:

    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289

    I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?
    No camps. That's your term not mine. Just providing the evidence to those who requested it.
    And Yet still many people on here will deny deny deny..... They live amongst us all over the USA, be ready and never doubt your instincts...

    They're not denying.
    Just busy in their group hug and being distracted is all.
    What the fuck are you two numbskulls talking about?

    Distracted from what? The fact a terrorist attack could happen here? Okay captain obvious, they have for decades
  • ldent42ldent42 Posts: 7,859

    muskydan said:

    BS44325 said:

    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289

    I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?
    No camps. That's your term not mine. Just providing the evidence to those who requested it.
    And Yet still many people on here will deny deny deny..... They live amongst us all over the USA, be ready and never doubt your instincts...

    They're not denying.
    Just busy in their group hug and being distracted is all.
    Or... and bear with me since this just a "KRAZY" thought - perhaps they don't live in isolated homogenous bubbles and actually have experience with the religion and friends/family/coworkers who are peaceful practicing muslims (and also regular people) and therefore are able to recognize that nutjob suicide bomber terrorists are no more muslim than the westboro baptist church members are christians?

    crazy thought. I know.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    muskydan said:

    BS44325 said:

    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289

    I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?
    No camps. That's your term not mine. Just providing the evidence to those who requested it.
    And Yet still many people on here will deny deny deny..... They live amongst us all over the USA, be ready and never doubt your instincts...

    They're not denying.
    Just busy in their group hug and being distracted is all.
    Discuss the topic, not the people discussing the topic. No personal comments. Look your comments over before hitting Submit and be sure you're debating THE TOPIC.
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  • rgambs said:

    muskydan said:

    BS44325 said:

    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289

    I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?
    No camps. That's your term not mine. Just providing the evidence to those who requested it.
    And Yet still many people on here will deny deny deny..... They live amongst us all over the USA, be ready and never doubt your instincts...

    They're not denying.
    Just busy in their group hug and being distracted is all.
    Discuss the topic, not the people discussing the topic. No personal comments. Look your comments over before hitting Submit and be sure you're debating THE TOPIC.
    I look over all my comments before hitting submit.
    The topic is Paris attacks.
    Some people want to hope and pray this problem away.
    But yet when a war is waged against the people who do this the very same people don't really mind.
  • muskydanmuskydan Posts: 1,013

    muskydan said:

    BS44325 said:

    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289

    I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?
    No camps. That's your term not mine. Just providing the evidence to those who requested it.
    And Yet still many people on here will deny deny deny..... They live amongst us all over the USA, be ready and never doubt your instincts...

    They're not denying.
    Just busy in their group hug and being distracted is all.
    What the fuck are you two numbskulls talking about?

    Distracted from what? The fact a terrorist attack could happen here? Okay captain obvious, they have for decades

    muskydan said:

    BS44325 said:

    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289

    I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?
    No camps. That's your term not mine. Just providing the evidence to those who requested it.
    And Yet still many people on here will deny deny deny..... They live amongst us all over the USA, be ready and never doubt your instincts...

    They're not denying.
    Just busy in their group hug and being distracted is all.
    What the fuck are you two numbskulls talking about?

    Distracted from what? The fact a terrorist attack could happen here? Okay captain obvious, they have for decades
    Pay attention buddy boy, your life may depend on it someday. If you have not turned soft over the years after 9/11 like many in this country then apologize
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336

    Couldn't attend the show as we were supposed to, had three close friends in the concert hall, two are alive and well, can't get news from the third.

    We have a proverb here that says "violence is the weaks' mean of expression" Let's be strong and have no fear, love.

    Jeremie

    Happy to hear you and two of your friends are OK. Sending good vibes your way, and hoping your third friend found their way home.
  • rgambs said:

    muskydan said:

    BS44325 said:

    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289

    I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?
    No camps. That's your term not mine. Just providing the evidence to those who requested it.
    And Yet still many people on here will deny deny deny..... They live amongst us all over the USA, be ready and never doubt your instincts...

    They're not denying.
    Just busy in their group hug and being distracted is all.
    Discuss the topic, not the people discussing the topic. No personal comments. Look your comments over before hitting Submit and be sure you're debating THE TOPIC.
    Says the guy calling people trolls.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336

    rgambs said:

    muskydan said:

    BS44325 said:

    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289

    I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?
    No camps. That's your term not mine. Just providing the evidence to those who requested it.
    And Yet still many people on here will deny deny deny..... They live amongst us all over the USA, be ready and never doubt your instincts...

    They're not denying.
    Just busy in their group hug and being distracted is all.
    Discuss the topic, not the people discussing the topic. No personal comments. Look your comments over before hitting Submit and be sure you're debating THE TOPIC.
    Says the guy calling people trolls.
    Because they are.
  • Couldn't attend the show as we were supposed to, had three close friends in the concert hall, two are alive and well, can't get news from the third.

    We have a proverb here that says "violence is the weaks' mean of expression" Let's be strong and have no fear, love.

    Jeremie

    My thoughts are with you, your family and friends. Hoping too that your 3rd friend is okay.

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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    rgambs said:

    muskydan said:

    BS44325 said:

    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289

    I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?
    No camps. That's your term not mine. Just providing the evidence to those who requested it.
    And Yet still many people on here will deny deny deny..... They live amongst us all over the USA, be ready and never doubt your instincts...

    They're not denying.
    Just busy in their group hug and being distracted is all.
    Discuss the topic, not the people discussing the topic. No personal comments. Look your comments over before hitting Submit and be sure you're debating THE TOPIC.
    Says the guy calling people trolls.
    Yeah, I fed the troll, that was my bad. Sometimes I can't stop myself. I am tired of the baiting and mocking that constantly comes from pjfan. This thread deserves more respect than she is capable of posting with, maybe I will be the next poster contributing thoughts and opinions who gets banned for calling bullshit when it's being smeared on the walls of a civil discussion.
    So be it.
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  • 153 people are dead. Stop bickering your partisan bullshit for one second.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    muskydan said:

    muskydan said:

    BS44325 said:

    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289

    I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?
    No camps. That's your term not mine. Just providing the evidence to those who requested it.
    And Yet still many people on here will deny deny deny..... They live amongst us all over the USA, be ready and never doubt your instincts...

    They're not denying.
    Just busy in their group hug and being distracted is all.
    What the fuck are you two numbskulls talking about?

    Distracted from what? The fact a terrorist attack could happen here? Okay captain obvious, they have for decades

    muskydan said:

    BS44325 said:

    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289

    I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?
    No camps. That's your term not mine. Just providing the evidence to those who requested it.
    And Yet still many people on here will deny deny deny..... They live amongst us all over the USA, be ready and never doubt your instincts...

    They're not denying.
    Just busy in their group hug and being distracted is all.
    What the fuck are you two numbskulls talking about?

    Distracted from what? The fact a terrorist attack could happen here? Okay captain obvious, they have for decades
    Pay attention buddy boy, your life may depend on it someday. If you have not turned soft over the years after 9/11 like many in this country then apologize
    Me soft? You're the one that sounds like a paranoid little school girl
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    dignin said:

    Couldn't attend the show as we were supposed to, had three close friends in the concert hall, two are alive and well, can't get news from the third.

    We have a proverb here that says "violence is the weaks' mean of expression" Let's be strong and have no fear, love.

    Jeremie

    Happy to hear you and two of your friends are OK. Sending good vibes your way, and hoping your third friend found their way home.
    Good thoughts from here too. I can't imagine the weight of grief and loss there right now...hope little pockets of comfort are to be found.

    (by the way, how feeling sadness and sending well-wishes to those close to such horror would be met with condescension is beyond me)
  • rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    muskydan said:

    BS44325 said:

    dignin said:

    BS44325 said:

    For those who wanted some evidence that there was refugee involvement:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/665555110467084289

    I'm happy to be in the "those who wanted some evidence" camp. Can I ask who is in the other camp?
    No camps. That's your term not mine. Just providing the evidence to those who requested it.
    And Yet still many people on here will deny deny deny..... They live amongst us all over the USA, be ready and never doubt your instincts...

    They're not denying.
    Just busy in their group hug and being distracted is all.
    Discuss the topic, not the people discussing the topic. No personal comments. Look your comments over before hitting Submit and be sure you're debating THE TOPIC.
    Says the guy calling people trolls.
    Yeah, I fed the troll, that was my bad. Sometimes I can't stop myself. I am tired of the baiting and mocking that constantly comes from pjfan. This thread deserves more respect than she is capable of posting with, maybe I will be the next poster contributing thoughts and opinions who gets banned for calling bullshit when it's being smeared on the walls of a civil discussion.
    So be it.
    Discuss the topic, not the people discussing the topic. No personal comments. Look your comments over before hitting Submit and be sure you're debating THE TOPIC.
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524

    153 people are dead. Stop bickering your partisan bullshit for one second.

    Fuckin A, Hugh.
  • I wonder if this will impact Justin Trudeau's promise to bring 25,000 refugees to Canada.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336

    I wonder if this will impact Justin Trudeau's promise to bring 25,000 refugees to Canada.

    Maybe, but I hope not.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,567

    Couldn't attend the show as we were supposed to, had three close friends in the concert hall, two are alive and well, can't get news from the third.

    We have a proverb here that says "violence is the weaks' mean of expression" Let's be strong and have no fear, love.

    Jeremie

    Good wishes to all of your country in this sad horrific event ...condolences to all affected !
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    I wonder if this will impact Justin Trudeau's promise to bring 25,000 refugees to Canada.

    I think it will have unfortunate consequences for all refugees everywhere. It is a sad day for humanity.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,567
    I'm afraid that in France they will have to really clamp down on their citizens with Muslim background cause now that they have confirmation that one of the perpetrators was a French citizen , how the hell do they prevent anymore suicide missions .....
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  • Couldn't attend the show as we were supposed to, had three close friends in the concert hall, two are alive and well, can't get news from the third.

    We have a proverb here that says "violence is the weaks' mean of expression" Let's be strong and have no fear, love.

    Jeremie

    I hope you get to hear some good news of your friend. Courage !

  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,957
    edited November 2015

    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    Perhaps before we grab pitchforks and form a mob to round up the evil refugees we should wait for a shred of verified Intel...
    Nahhhh bootlegger and dirtyfrank are right, we should jump to conclusions and make broad assumptions, that's the right move. Let's not even wait a few hours, let's use this as an opportunity to push our agenda while the dust is literally still settling.

    First, clearly it is some sort of Islamic radicalism be it Al Qaeda, ISIS, or some one off Islamic militant cell. i have not said anything about nuking anyone or killing anyone. I have not said to let the refugees die in Syria. You make me out to be a bad person when damnit I just want to make sure Europe stays safe. Ya know what, there are plenty of people that agree with me, hence the border fences being built in Eastern Europe and plenty of Europeans ready to kick out liberal politicians.

    I would love to visit a stable Syria and see the ancient ruins and experience the culture there. I am not anti-Muslim just don't think a wave of tens of millions of refugees will be good for Europe in the long run.
    I find it to be distasteful and disrespectful to jump to blaming refugees when you have zero evidence and the bodies are practically still warm.
    There will be time enough to talk about who to blame and what to do next when there are at least a few details available.
    Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves, IMHO.
    It is okay if you don't want to have discussion. You don't need to come to the message board. This is the largest mass migration of people since WW2 and there is not a word of it on this message board and it is ludicrous to think that there won't be any negative consequences. The solution to the Middle East problem is not mass migration to Europe.

    This Paris attack isn't the first terrorist attack in Europe, but one of many. It isn't like we need the facts right now about this Paris attack to confirm whether there are Islamic terrorists in Europe. This attack could have been staged by the Girl Scouts but that doesn't mean there isn't an issue in Europe with Islamic extremism and large, large disenfranchisement of Muslim youth (I.e., French and Swedish riots in previous years). If you can't see that Europe is changing significantly then I don't know what to tell you. If you also can't recognize that there are millions of Europeans that don't agree with the immigration of refugees and if you cannot empathise with their position then YOU should be ashamed.

    You think that German town of 100 that took in 750 refugees will ever be the same? Do you care about those 100 people at all?
    There was a huge thread about the refugees. Got so heated it got closed last month. Another one was made, but people realized they couldn't discuss it civilly so the second thread died.

    Seems to me like at least some of these terrorists were home grown in Europe and eother way there is nothing siggesting any have something to do with refugees.
    Closing our hearts to people in need, to people who are running from the same people we are condemning today, will NOT stop attacks like these, but will make us worse people.
    I am DISGUSTED that so many people are using this as a reason to turn their backs on desperate, innocent people who are victims right along with the people who were attacked in Paris yesterday.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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