Paris Attacks

ldent42

America is killing me. Why do we gotta make everything about us? This shit happened in France, the refugee situation is mostly in Greece France etc and then you got Germany and Austria stepping up - I know that we volunteered to take a teeny weeny fraction in but like what the fuck with this vote.

mickeyrat

HughFreakingDillon said:

JWPearl said:

muskydan said:

Mastermind of Paris attack just confirmed DEAD. The French Police lit this MF'er up so much they could only confirm who he was through DNA.

how do they know his dna in the first place ??
just wondering.............

and this is TV crime drama-style DNA testing that only takes an afternoon. seems a bit odd to me.

Prints. Reporting has said via fingerprints.

HughFreakingDillon

mickeyrat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JWPearl said:

muskydan said:

Mastermind of Paris attack just confirmed DEAD. The French Police lit this MF'er up so much they could only confirm who he was through DNA.

how do they know his dna in the first place ??
just wondering.............

and this is TV crime drama-style DNA testing that only takes an afternoon. seems a bit odd to me.

Prints. Reporting has said via fingerprints.

well that makes a lot more sense.

Gern Blansten

ldent42 said:

America is killing me. Why do we gotta make everything about us? This shit happened in France, the refugee situation is mostly in Greece France etc and then you got Germany and Austria stepping up - I know that we volunteered to take a teeny weeny fraction in but like what the fuck with this vote.

That's how republicans get their jollies...lots of posturing

mcgruff10

Gern Blansten said:

mcgruff10 said:

Seems like democrats and republicans are in agreement about the refugees:
source: http://news.yahoo.com/house-gop-bill-bolster-checks-syrian-refugees-084327089--politics.html
Forty-seven Democrats joined all but two Republicans as the House passed the measure by a veto-proof 289-137 margin, a major setback to the lame duck president on an issue —the Islamic State group and the refugees fleeing it — that shows no signs of easing. The vote exceeded the two-thirds majority required to override a veto, and came despite a rushed, early morning visit to the Capitol by senior administration officials in a futile attempt to limit Democratic defections.

Thursday's roll call came six days after a burst of bombings and shootings in Paris killed 129 people, wounded many more and revived post-9/11 jitters in the U.S. and Europe. The attacks have turned the question of admitting people fleeing war-torn Syria and Iraq into a high-stakes political issue in both the United States and Europe, and many congressional Democrats were willing to vote against Obama for fear of angering voters nervous about security at home.

The 47 Democrats who backed the bill, largely moderates and lawmakers facing potentially tough re-elections, were joined by 242 Republicans. Voting no were 135 Democrats and two Republicans, North Carolina Rep. Walter Jones and Iowa Rep. Steve King.

"re-election" is key....sucks but that's politics

good point bud. politics does suck. I think i'm gonna run for office and be a moderate democrat. I definitely have some republican points of view and lots of democrat pov.

Gern Blansten

The dems that support it are saying that the security processes in the bill weren't really out of the ordinary. It could also be a case where the repubs are just publicly posturing more than the bill itself.

ldent42

I've just seen this on FB and while I know it's just ludicrous rhetoric it's too hilarious for me not to share here. To be crystal clear - I have no idea who the quoted person is nor what that website is I just saw it and it made me laugh so I'm sharing.

kce8

Oh well...I just can't laugh about a single one of those topics anymore ...

PJ_Soul

But it's a good point. I don't actually find it funny. This whole issue is absolutely 100% infuriating to me.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

ldent42 said:

I've just seen this on FB and while I know it's just ludicrous rhetoric it's too hilarious for me not to share here. To be crystal clear - I have no idea who the quoted person is nor what that website is I just saw it and it made me laugh so I'm sharing.

I was thinking about this the other day.

On this forum...

You have some gun opponents demanding gun legislation that are in full support of refugees regardless of any inherent risk factors: basically saying 'why punish the many for the actions of a few'.

And you have some gun proponents opposing gun legislation that are opposed to accepting Syrian refugees: basically saying, 'we can't assume the risk'.

Quite the irony, really, using an argument used against you in one context for you in another.

mickeyrat

I question whether anyone in congress is a critical thinker. Seems to me you would seek to know what the current process is and go from there. But then that makes sense so I guess leaves congress out.

SVRDhand13

ldent42 said:

I've just seen this on FB and while I know it's just ludicrous rhetoric it's too hilarious for me not to share here. To be crystal clear - I have no idea who the quoted person is nor what that website is I just saw it and it made me laugh so I'm sharing.

Exactly. Regulate better in both instances, no need for a straight up ban.

dankind

ldent42 said:

America is killing me. Why do we gotta make everything about us? This shit happened in France, the refugee situation is mostly in Greece France etc and then you got Germany and Austria stepping up - I know that we volunteered to take a teeny weeny fraction in but like what the fuck with this vote.

You know that whole "love it or leave it" thing?

The pendulum for me is swinging ever closer to "leave it" these days.

HughFreakingDillon

dankind said:

ldent42 said:

America is killing me. Why do we gotta make everything about us? This shit happened in France, the refugee situation is mostly in Greece France etc and then you got Germany and Austria stepping up - I know that we volunteered to take a teeny weeny fraction in but like what the fuck with this vote.

You know that whole "love it or leave it" thing?

The pendulum for me is swinging ever closer to "leave it" these days.

I'm thrilled to be Commie Canadian.

Jason P

Why did it take until Russia joined attacking ISIS that they finally went after their cash cow, the oil refineries? I assumed the US had been doing that, but I guess not.

bootlegger10

callen said:

"Drilling for fear makes the job simple."

Republicans are sooo happy this fell into their laps.

Imagine saying Syrian Christians can come but norm Syrian Muslims. And this is acceptable. USA USA USA.

Who is drilling? Train attack, took down a plane,

dankind said:

ldent42 said:

America is killing me. Why do we gotta make everything about us? This shit happened in France, the refugee situation is mostly in Greece France etc and then you got Germany and Austria stepping up - I know that we volunteered to take a teeny weeny fraction in but like what the fuck with this vote.

You know that whole "love it or leave it" thing?

The pendulum for me is swinging ever closer to "leave it" these days.

You think the USA is becoming more conservative???? That is absurd.

ldent42

dankind said:

ldent42 said:

America is killing me. Why do we gotta make everything about us? This shit happened in France, the refugee situation is mostly in Greece France etc and then you got Germany and Austria stepping up - I know that we volunteered to take a teeny weeny fraction in but like what the fuck with this vote.

You know that whole "love it or leave it" thing?

The pendulum for me is swinging ever closer to "leave it" these days.

I've had my mind made up about it for ages. I just can't actually do anything about it while I've got a disabled senior dependant on me. For practical reasons I'm thinking west coast Canada.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

ldent42 said:

dankind said:

ldent42 said:

America is killing me. Why do we gotta make everything about us? This shit happened in France, the refugee situation is mostly in Greece France etc and then you got Germany and Austria stepping up - I know that we volunteered to take a teeny weeny fraction in but like what the fuck with this vote.

You know that whole "love it or leave it" thing?

The pendulum for me is swinging ever closer to "leave it" these days.

I've had my mind made up about it for ages. I just can't actually do anything about it while I've got a disabled senior dependant on me. For practical reasons I'm thinking west coast Canada.

Love to have you, but you realize we won't have your guns don't you?

What's the upside to that? Well... you won't feel like you'll need them if it's any consolation!

dankind

bootlegger10 said:

dankind said:

ldent42 said:

America is killing me. Why do we gotta make everything about us? This shit happened in France, the refugee situation is mostly in Greece France etc and then you got Germany and Austria stepping up - I know that we volunteered to take a teeny weeny fraction in but like what the fuck with this vote.

You know that whole "love it or leave it" thing?

The pendulum for me is swinging ever closer to "leave it" these days.

You think the USA is becoming more conservative???? That is absurd.

I can live with conservatism (and have for a little over half my life). It has nothing to do with conservative or liberal; it has to do with preferring a culture of mindfulness over one of willful ignorance. Politics plays a role (but not a major one).

Jason P

The political bitter-banter in this thread is driving me nutty. No one wants to focus on the primary problem and creating a solution.