Canadian Politics Redux
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How would you react if a Conservative PM did the same thing, seriously? I don’t believe you’d honestly think they were trying to save jobs.HughFreakingDillon said:“He admitted he had asked Wilson-Raybould to revisit her decision on the file, and whether she would be open to such a review. Trudeau claimed she was willing to do so, contradicting her testimony. He also said he wished Wilson-Raybould had told him that she felt contacts from his officials amounted to inappropriate pressure.
Trudeau has also acknowledged that during his Sept. 17 meeting with Wilson-Raybould, he pointed out that he was the MP for Papineau, a riding in Quebec — where SNC-Lavalin is based — but denied he raised that point for partisan interests.”
Before I even got to the next paragraph, my first thought was “he’s just trying to save thousands of Canadian jobs”. One could argue he only cares about those jobs politically; I won’t dispute that. But what do you think he’s (or anyone in that position) going to say when it’s a subjective review and ruling. It’s not like finding fingerprints at the scene of a crime.
Your standards for him are and have always been absurdly high for a head of state.
And I suppose this little tidbit isn’t convenient to your narrative:
“He also said while he disagrees with some of Dion's findings, and that he doesn't believe he has anything to apologize for, he takes responsibility "for the mistakes that I made." “
He was attempting to circumvent the justice system, the reason is immaterial.
Show me where he actually took responsibility beyond pretty words, which is all he has?
I guess since you seem to be justifying the quote I used you agree that when he assaults a woman she’s just experiencing it differently?"The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 20220 -
Saying he doesn’t believe he has anything to apologize for kind of says he’s avoiding actually taking responsibility. He is very good at word salad games, in addition to his acting skills.HughFreakingDillon said:“He admitted he had asked Wilson-Raybould to revisit her decision on the file, and whether she would be open to such a review. Trudeau claimed she was willing to do so, contradicting her testimony. He also said he wished Wilson-Raybould had told him that she felt contacts from his officials amounted to inappropriate pressure.
Trudeau has also acknowledged that during his Sept. 17 meeting with Wilson-Raybould, he pointed out that he was the MP for Papineau, a riding in Quebec — where SNC-Lavalin is based — but denied he raised that point for partisan interests.”
Before I even got to the next paragraph, my first thought was “he’s just trying to save thousands of Canadian jobs”. One could argue he only cares about those jobs politically; I won’t dispute that. But what do you think he’s (or anyone in that position) going to say when it’s a subjective review and ruling. It’s not like finding fingerprints at the scene of a crime.
Your standards for him are and have always been absurdly high for a head of state.
And I suppose this little tidbit isn’t convenient to your narrative:
“He also said while he disagrees with some of Dion's findings, and that he doesn't believe he has anything to apologize for, he takes responsibility "for the mistakes that I made." “
"The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 20220 -
He took full responsibility on that one. He merely explained that yes, he experienced it differently, but apologized for any harm he caused. Every time he defends himself, he’s “not taking responsibility”. I don’t know about you, but when I’m accused of something and it’s inaccurate/false, I don’t take responsibility either. You clearly believe EVERY SINGLE ACCUSATION against him is true, which again, is just pure TDS. The truth almost always lies somewhere in the middle.DarthMaeglin said:
How would you react if a Conservative PM did the same thing, seriously? I don’t believe you’d honestly think they were trying to save jobs.HughFreakingDillon said:“He admitted he had asked Wilson-Raybould to revisit her decision on the file, and whether she would be open to such a review. Trudeau claimed she was willing to do so, contradicting her testimony. He also said he wished Wilson-Raybould had told him that she felt contacts from his officials amounted to inappropriate pressure.
Trudeau has also acknowledged that during his Sept. 17 meeting with Wilson-Raybould, he pointed out that he was the MP for Papineau, a riding in Quebec — where SNC-Lavalin is based — but denied he raised that point for partisan interests.”
Before I even got to the next paragraph, my first thought was “he’s just trying to save thousands of Canadian jobs”. One could argue he only cares about those jobs politically; I won’t dispute that. But what do you think he’s (or anyone in that position) going to say when it’s a subjective review and ruling. It’s not like finding fingerprints at the scene of a crime.
Your standards for him are and have always been absurdly high for a head of state.
And I suppose this little tidbit isn’t convenient to your narrative:
“He also said while he disagrees with some of Dion's findings, and that he doesn't believe he has anything to apologize for, he takes responsibility "for the mistakes that I made." “
He was attempting to circumvent the justice system, the reason is immaterial.
Show me where he actually took responsibility beyond pretty words, which is all he has?
I guess since you seem to be justifying the quote I used you agree that when he assaults a woman she’s just experiencing it differently?Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
A Canadian conservative? Yes, if all the facts were the same, I do think I would. Saving jobs is politically expedient. I don’t believe political corruption is as widespread here as it is in the states.DarthMaeglin said:
How would you react if a Conservative PM did the same thing, seriously? I don’t believe you’d honestly think they were trying to save jobs.HughFreakingDillon said:“He admitted he had asked Wilson-Raybould to revisit her decision on the file, and whether she would be open to such a review. Trudeau claimed she was willing to do so, contradicting her testimony. He also said he wished Wilson-Raybould had told him that she felt contacts from his officials amounted to inappropriate pressure.
Trudeau has also acknowledged that during his Sept. 17 meeting with Wilson-Raybould, he pointed out that he was the MP for Papineau, a riding in Quebec — where SNC-Lavalin is based — but denied he raised that point for partisan interests.”
Before I even got to the next paragraph, my first thought was “he’s just trying to save thousands of Canadian jobs”. One could argue he only cares about those jobs politically; I won’t dispute that. But what do you think he’s (or anyone in that position) going to say when it’s a subjective review and ruling. It’s not like finding fingerprints at the scene of a crime.
Your standards for him are and have always been absurdly high for a head of state.
And I suppose this little tidbit isn’t convenient to your narrative:
“He also said while he disagrees with some of Dion's findings, and that he doesn't believe he has anything to apologize for, he takes responsibility "for the mistakes that I made." “
He was attempting to circumvent the justice system, the reason is immaterial.
Show me where he actually took responsibility beyond pretty words, which is all he has?
I guess since you seem to be justifying the quote I used you agree that when he assaults a woman she’s just experiencing it differently?Post edited by HughFreakingDillon onHugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
What were you hoping for? Community service? 😂 Generally when someone takes responsibility for something, it’s verbal. Or “pretty words”.DarthMaeglin said:HughFreakingDillon said:“He admitted he had asked Wilson-Raybould to revisit her decision on the file, and whether she would be open to such a review. Trudeau claimed she was willing to do so, contradicting her testimony. He also said he wished Wilson-Raybould had told him that she felt contacts from his officials amounted to inappropriate pressure.
Trudeau has also acknowledged that during his Sept. 17 meeting with Wilson-Raybould, he pointed out that he was the MP for Papineau, a riding in Quebec — where SNC-Lavalin is based — but denied he raised that point for partisan interests.”
Before I even got to the next paragraph, my first thought was “he’s just trying to save thousands of Canadian jobs”. One could argue he only cares about those jobs politically; I won’t dispute that. But what do you think he’s (or anyone in that position) going to say when it’s a subjective review and ruling. It’s not like finding fingerprints at the scene of a crime.
Your standards for him are and have always been absurdly high for a head of state.
And I suppose this little tidbit isn’t convenient to your narrative:
“He also said while he disagrees with some of Dion's findings, and that he doesn't believe he has anything to apologize for, he takes responsibility "for the mistakes that I made." “
Show me where he actually took responsibility beyond pretty words, which is all he has?Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Which one, sorry? The pressuring of JWR or the grope?HughFreakingDillon said:
He took full responsibility on that one. He merely explained that yes, he experienced it differently, but apologized for any harm he caused. Every time he defends himself, he’s “not taking responsibility”. I don’t know about you, but when I’m accused of something and it’s inaccurate/false, I don’t take responsibility either. You clearly believe EVERY SINGLE ACCUSATION against him is true, which again, is just pure TDS. The truth almost always lies somewhere in the middle.DarthMaeglin said:
How would you react if a Conservative PM did the same thing, seriously? I don’t believe you’d honestly think they were trying to save jobs.HughFreakingDillon said:“He admitted he had asked Wilson-Raybould to revisit her decision on the file, and whether she would be open to such a review. Trudeau claimed she was willing to do so, contradicting her testimony. He also said he wished Wilson-Raybould had told him that she felt contacts from his officials amounted to inappropriate pressure.
Trudeau has also acknowledged that during his Sept. 17 meeting with Wilson-Raybould, he pointed out that he was the MP for Papineau, a riding in Quebec — where SNC-Lavalin is based — but denied he raised that point for partisan interests.”
Before I even got to the next paragraph, my first thought was “he’s just trying to save thousands of Canadian jobs”. One could argue he only cares about those jobs politically; I won’t dispute that. But what do you think he’s (or anyone in that position) going to say when it’s a subjective review and ruling. It’s not like finding fingerprints at the scene of a crime.
Your standards for him are and have always been absurdly high for a head of state.
And I suppose this little tidbit isn’t convenient to your narrative:
“He also said while he disagrees with some of Dion's findings, and that he doesn't believe he has anything to apologize for, he takes responsibility "for the mistakes that I made." “
He was attempting to circumvent the justice system, the reason is immaterial.
Show me where he actually took responsibility beyond pretty words, which is all he has?
I guess since you seem to be justifying the quote I used you agree that when he assaults a woman she’s just experiencing it differently?
Kindly stop with the TDS crap, since you’re sitting in a glass house on that one from my perspective, both Trudeau Delusion Syndrome and Trump Derangement Syndrome.
I believe in the rule of law and political expediency should never play a role.HughFreakingDillon said:
A Canadian conservative? Yes, if all the facts were the same, I do think I would. Saving jobs is politically expedient. I don’t believe political corruption is as widespread here as it is in the states.DarthMaeglin said:
How would you react if a Conservative PM did the same thing, seriously? I don’t believe you’d honestly think they were trying to save jobs.HughFreakingDillon said:“He admitted he had asked Wilson-Raybould to revisit her decision on the file, and whether she would be open to such a review. Trudeau claimed she was willing to do so, contradicting her testimony. He also said he wished Wilson-Raybould had told him that she felt contacts from his officials amounted to inappropriate pressure.
Trudeau has also acknowledged that during his Sept. 17 meeting with Wilson-Raybould, he pointed out that he was the MP for Papineau, a riding in Quebec — where SNC-Lavalin is based — but denied he raised that point for partisan interests.”
Before I even got to the next paragraph, my first thought was “he’s just trying to save thousands of Canadian jobs”. One could argue he only cares about those jobs politically; I won’t dispute that. But what do you think he’s (or anyone in that position) going to say when it’s a subjective review and ruling. It’s not like finding fingerprints at the scene of a crime.
Your standards for him are and have always been absurdly high for a head of state.
And I suppose this little tidbit isn’t convenient to your narrative:
“He also said while he disagrees with some of Dion's findings, and that he doesn't believe he has anything to apologize for, he takes responsibility "for the mistakes that I made." “
He was attempting to circumvent the justice system, the reason is immaterial.
Show me where he actually took responsibility beyond pretty words, which is all he has?
I guess since you seem to be justifying the quote I used you agree that when he assaults a woman she’s just experiencing it differently?
He has chosen to be a public figure and leader (our PM ffs) and I feel he does bear a responsibility to do more than just acknowledge his wrongdoings but to show he has learned and will do differently.HughFreakingDillon said:
What were you hoping for? Community service? 😂 Generally when someone takes responsibility for something, it’s verbal. Or “pretty words”.DarthMaeglin said:HughFreakingDillon said:“He admitted he had asked Wilson-Raybould to revisit her decision on the file, and whether she would be open to such a review. Trudeau claimed she was willing to do so, contradicting her testimony. He also said he wished Wilson-Raybould had told him that she felt contacts from his officials amounted to inappropriate pressure.
Trudeau has also acknowledged that during his Sept. 17 meeting with Wilson-Raybould, he pointed out that he was the MP for Papineau, a riding in Quebec — where SNC-Lavalin is based — but denied he raised that point for partisan interests.”
Before I even got to the next paragraph, my first thought was “he’s just trying to save thousands of Canadian jobs”. One could argue he only cares about those jobs politically; I won’t dispute that. But what do you think he’s (or anyone in that position) going to say when it’s a subjective review and ruling. It’s not like finding fingerprints at the scene of a crime.
Your standards for him are and have always been absurdly high for a head of state.
And I suppose this little tidbit isn’t convenient to your narrative:
“He also said while he disagrees with some of Dion's findings, and that he doesn't believe he has anything to apologize for, he takes responsibility "for the mistakes that I made." “
Show me where he actually took responsibility beyond pretty words, which is all he has?
"The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 20220 -
Will I be critical of Justin for the unnecessary cost given the state of the government and the imminent fixed election date or applaud that citizens’ representation in Parliament will be restored, however briefly?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/prime-minister-sets-april-date-for-byelection-in-halifax-riding-1.7472552
"The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 20220 -
I don’t have TDS in either form. I have said several times recently that JT should no longer be leader. I just don’t suffer from the extreme bias that he’s some evil dictator like some.And trump has proven in the last month there is no such thing as American TDS. Everything that was feared, and worse, is actually happening.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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Then to my other questions and points then?HughFreakingDillon said:I don’t have TDS in either form. I have said several times recently that JT should no longer be leader. I just don’t suffer from the extreme bias that he’s some evil dictator like some.And trump has proven in the last month there is no such thing as American TDS. Everything that was feared, and worse, is actually happening."The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 20220 -
I’ll ask again: what is the “more” you expect of him? What actions do you want him to take to prove to the people who will never believe anything he does to be genuine? He’s in a no-win situation with people like you, so why should he bother?DarthMaeglin said:
Which one, sorry? The pressuring of JWR or the grope?HughFreakingDillon said:
He took full responsibility on that one. He merely explained that yes, he experienced it differently, but apologized for any harm he caused. Every time he defends himself, he’s “not taking responsibility”. I don’t know about you, but when I’m accused of something and it’s inaccurate/false, I don’t take responsibility either. You clearly believe EVERY SINGLE ACCUSATION against him is true, which again, is just pure TDS. The truth almost always lies somewhere in the middle.DarthMaeglin said:
How would you react if a Conservative PM did the same thing, seriously? I don’t believe you’d honestly think they were trying to save jobs.HughFreakingDillon said:“He admitted he had asked Wilson-Raybould to revisit her decision on the file, and whether she would be open to such a review. Trudeau claimed she was willing to do so, contradicting her testimony. He also said he wished Wilson-Raybould had told him that she felt contacts from his officials amounted to inappropriate pressure.
Trudeau has also acknowledged that during his Sept. 17 meeting with Wilson-Raybould, he pointed out that he was the MP for Papineau, a riding in Quebec — where SNC-Lavalin is based — but denied he raised that point for partisan interests.”
Before I even got to the next paragraph, my first thought was “he’s just trying to save thousands of Canadian jobs”. One could argue he only cares about those jobs politically; I won’t dispute that. But what do you think he’s (or anyone in that position) going to say when it’s a subjective review and ruling. It’s not like finding fingerprints at the scene of a crime.
Your standards for him are and have always been absurdly high for a head of state.
And I suppose this little tidbit isn’t convenient to your narrative:
“He also said while he disagrees with some of Dion's findings, and that he doesn't believe he has anything to apologize for, he takes responsibility "for the mistakes that I made." “
He was attempting to circumvent the justice system, the reason is immaterial.
Show me where he actually took responsibility beyond pretty words, which is all he has?
I guess since you seem to be justifying the quote I used you agree that when he assaults a woman she’s just experiencing it differently?
Kindly stop with the TDS crap, since you’re sitting in a glass house on that one from my perspective, both Trudeau Delusion Syndrome and Trump Derangement Syndrome.
I believe in the rule of law and political expediency should never play a role.HughFreakingDillon said:
A Canadian conservative? Yes, if all the facts were the same, I do think I would. Saving jobs is politically expedient. I don’t believe political corruption is as widespread here as it is in the states.DarthMaeglin said:
How would you react if a Conservative PM did the same thing, seriously? I don’t believe you’d honestly think they were trying to save jobs.HughFreakingDillon said:“He admitted he had asked Wilson-Raybould to revisit her decision on the file, and whether she would be open to such a review. Trudeau claimed she was willing to do so, contradicting her testimony. He also said he wished Wilson-Raybould had told him that she felt contacts from his officials amounted to inappropriate pressure.
Trudeau has also acknowledged that during his Sept. 17 meeting with Wilson-Raybould, he pointed out that he was the MP for Papineau, a riding in Quebec — where SNC-Lavalin is based — but denied he raised that point for partisan interests.”
Before I even got to the next paragraph, my first thought was “he’s just trying to save thousands of Canadian jobs”. One could argue he only cares about those jobs politically; I won’t dispute that. But what do you think he’s (or anyone in that position) going to say when it’s a subjective review and ruling. It’s not like finding fingerprints at the scene of a crime.
Your standards for him are and have always been absurdly high for a head of state.
And I suppose this little tidbit isn’t convenient to your narrative:
“He also said while he disagrees with some of Dion's findings, and that he doesn't believe he has anything to apologize for, he takes responsibility "for the mistakes that I made." “
He was attempting to circumvent the justice system, the reason is immaterial.
Show me where he actually took responsibility beyond pretty words, which is all he has?
I guess since you seem to be justifying the quote I used you agree that when he assaults a woman she’s just experiencing it differently?
He has chosen to be a public figure and leader (our PM ffs) and I feel he does bear a responsibility to do more than just acknowledge his wrongdoings but to show he has learned and will do differently.HughFreakingDillon said:
What were you hoping for? Community service? 😂 Generally when someone takes responsibility for something, it’s verbal. Or “pretty words”.DarthMaeglin said:HughFreakingDillon said:“He admitted he had asked Wilson-Raybould to revisit her decision on the file, and whether she would be open to such a review. Trudeau claimed she was willing to do so, contradicting her testimony. He also said he wished Wilson-Raybould had told him that she felt contacts from his officials amounted to inappropriate pressure.
Trudeau has also acknowledged that during his Sept. 17 meeting with Wilson-Raybould, he pointed out that he was the MP for Papineau, a riding in Quebec — where SNC-Lavalin is based — but denied he raised that point for partisan interests.”
Before I even got to the next paragraph, my first thought was “he’s just trying to save thousands of Canadian jobs”. One could argue he only cares about those jobs politically; I won’t dispute that. But what do you think he’s (or anyone in that position) going to say when it’s a subjective review and ruling. It’s not like finding fingerprints at the scene of a crime.
Your standards for him are and have always been absurdly high for a head of state.
And I suppose this little tidbit isn’t convenient to your narrative:
“He also said while he disagrees with some of Dion's findings, and that he doesn't believe he has anything to apologize for, he takes responsibility "for the mistakes that I made." “
Show me where he actually took responsibility beyond pretty words, which is all he has?Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
We’ve demanded public penance from public figures in the past, why is Justin any different? It can take various forms obviously but the point is that it’s done publicly but in a way that is hopefully humbling.HughFreakingDillon said:
I’ll ask again: what is the “more” you expect of him? What actions do you want him to take to prove to the people who will never believe anything he does to be genuine? He’s in a no-win situation with people like you, so why should he bother?DarthMaeglin said:
Which one, sorry? The pressuring of JWR or the grope?HughFreakingDillon said:
He took full responsibility on that one. He merely explained that yes, he experienced it differently, but apologized for any harm he caused. Every time he defends himself, he’s “not taking responsibility”. I don’t know about you, but when I’m accused of something and it’s inaccurate/false, I don’t take responsibility either. You clearly believe EVERY SINGLE ACCUSATION against him is true, which again, is just pure TDS. The truth almost always lies somewhere in the middle.DarthMaeglin said:
How would you react if a Conservative PM did the same thing, seriously? I don’t believe you’d honestly think they were trying to save jobs.HughFreakingDillon said:“He admitted he had asked Wilson-Raybould to revisit her decision on the file, and whether she would be open to such a review. Trudeau claimed she was willing to do so, contradicting her testimony. He also said he wished Wilson-Raybould had told him that she felt contacts from his officials amounted to inappropriate pressure.
Trudeau has also acknowledged that during his Sept. 17 meeting with Wilson-Raybould, he pointed out that he was the MP for Papineau, a riding in Quebec — where SNC-Lavalin is based — but denied he raised that point for partisan interests.”
Before I even got to the next paragraph, my first thought was “he’s just trying to save thousands of Canadian jobs”. One could argue he only cares about those jobs politically; I won’t dispute that. But what do you think he’s (or anyone in that position) going to say when it’s a subjective review and ruling. It’s not like finding fingerprints at the scene of a crime.
Your standards for him are and have always been absurdly high for a head of state.
And I suppose this little tidbit isn’t convenient to your narrative:
“He also said while he disagrees with some of Dion's findings, and that he doesn't believe he has anything to apologize for, he takes responsibility "for the mistakes that I made." “
He was attempting to circumvent the justice system, the reason is immaterial.
Show me where he actually took responsibility beyond pretty words, which is all he has?
I guess since you seem to be justifying the quote I used you agree that when he assaults a woman she’s just experiencing it differently?
Kindly stop with the TDS crap, since you’re sitting in a glass house on that one from my perspective, both Trudeau Delusion Syndrome and Trump Derangement Syndrome.
I believe in the rule of law and political expediency should never play a role.HughFreakingDillon said:
A Canadian conservative? Yes, if all the facts were the same, I do think I would. Saving jobs is politically expedient. I don’t believe political corruption is as widespread here as it is in the states.DarthMaeglin said:
How would you react if a Conservative PM did the same thing, seriously? I don’t believe you’d honestly think they were trying to save jobs.HughFreakingDillon said:“He admitted he had asked Wilson-Raybould to revisit her decision on the file, and whether she would be open to such a review. Trudeau claimed she was willing to do so, contradicting her testimony. He also said he wished Wilson-Raybould had told him that she felt contacts from his officials amounted to inappropriate pressure.
Trudeau has also acknowledged that during his Sept. 17 meeting with Wilson-Raybould, he pointed out that he was the MP for Papineau, a riding in Quebec — where SNC-Lavalin is based — but denied he raised that point for partisan interests.”
Before I even got to the next paragraph, my first thought was “he’s just trying to save thousands of Canadian jobs”. One could argue he only cares about those jobs politically; I won’t dispute that. But what do you think he’s (or anyone in that position) going to say when it’s a subjective review and ruling. It’s not like finding fingerprints at the scene of a crime.
Your standards for him are and have always been absurdly high for a head of state.
And I suppose this little tidbit isn’t convenient to your narrative:
“He also said while he disagrees with some of Dion's findings, and that he doesn't believe he has anything to apologize for, he takes responsibility "for the mistakes that I made." “
He was attempting to circumvent the justice system, the reason is immaterial.
Show me where he actually took responsibility beyond pretty words, which is all he has?
I guess since you seem to be justifying the quote I used you agree that when he assaults a woman she’s just experiencing it differently?
He has chosen to be a public figure and leader (our PM ffs) and I feel he does bear a responsibility to do more than just acknowledge his wrongdoings but to show he has learned and will do differently.HughFreakingDillon said:
What were you hoping for? Community service? 😂 Generally when someone takes responsibility for something, it’s verbal. Or “pretty words”.DarthMaeglin said:HughFreakingDillon said:“He admitted he had asked Wilson-Raybould to revisit her decision on the file, and whether she would be open to such a review. Trudeau claimed she was willing to do so, contradicting her testimony. He also said he wished Wilson-Raybould had told him that she felt contacts from his officials amounted to inappropriate pressure.
Trudeau has also acknowledged that during his Sept. 17 meeting with Wilson-Raybould, he pointed out that he was the MP for Papineau, a riding in Quebec — where SNC-Lavalin is based — but denied he raised that point for partisan interests.”
Before I even got to the next paragraph, my first thought was “he’s just trying to save thousands of Canadian jobs”. One could argue he only cares about those jobs politically; I won’t dispute that. But what do you think he’s (or anyone in that position) going to say when it’s a subjective review and ruling. It’s not like finding fingerprints at the scene of a crime.
Your standards for him are and have always been absurdly high for a head of state.
And I suppose this little tidbit isn’t convenient to your narrative:
“He also said while he disagrees with some of Dion's findings, and that he doesn't believe he has anything to apologize for, he takes responsibility "for the mistakes that I made." “
Show me where he actually took responsibility beyond pretty words, which is all he has?
Caught out for a past sexual assault, time volunteering at a women’s shelter (doing entry-level jobs) or something along those lines doesn’t sound unreasonable to me.
Caught out for pressuring the Attorney General to do an end run around the law? I honestly don’t know what a reasonable “penance” would be other than resignation.
Will I slag his work as being insincere? Maybe, or I might tip my hat to him for trying to make right.
"The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 20220 -
^^^ That kind of sounds borderline delusional to me, sorry. There is no connection to reality in your suggested expectation there.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Then you’re ok with pretty words then on to the next scandal?PJ_Soul said:^^^ That kind of sounds borderline delusional to me, sorry. There is no connection to reality in your suggested expectation there.
What is wrong with holding someone who has chosen to put themselves forward to be our leader to a higher standard?"The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 20220 -
I'm just talking about the reality of reality, lol.DarthMaeglin said:
Then you’re ok with pretty words then on to the next scandal?PJ_Soul said:^^^ That kind of sounds borderline delusional to me, sorry. There is no connection to reality in your suggested expectation there.
What is wrong with holding someone who has chosen to put themselves forward to be our leader to a higher standard?
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
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Darth is still pissed and holding water for the "trucker" convoy of clowns.PJ_Soul said:
I'm just talking about the reality of reality, lol.DarthMaeglin said:
Then you’re ok with pretty words then on to the next scandal?PJ_Soul said:^^^ That kind of sounds borderline delusional to me, sorry. There is no connection to reality in your suggested expectation there.
What is wrong with holding someone who has chosen to put themselves forward to be our leader to a higher standard?
It clouds good judgement and common sense.
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Thanks for all the put downs folks. Judgment’s clouded on all sides here.
Zod’s right, it’s too late to hold Trudeau accountable for the generational damage he’s done, certainly in terms of the nation’s debt.
Most here will also need to remember the wide latitude you’ve given Trudeau however, and give equal deference to future Prime Ministers."The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
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generational damage? what generational damage beyond covid relief has he done?DarthMaeglin said:Thanks for all the put downs folks. Judgment’s clouded on all sides here.
Zod’s right, it’s too late to hold Trudeau accountable for the generational damage he’s done, certainly in terms of the nation’s debt.
Most here will also need to remember the wide latitude you’ve given Trudeau however, and give equal deference to future Prime Ministers.
and honestly, I do try to look at it through an objective lens. This was something I became more cognizant of in the trump era; "is everything he does evil, or is it just because I'm assuming it is BECAUSE I know he's evil". Unfortunately, it's mostly the former. But I will absolutely give PP an objective scanning when he's PM.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
It's shocking that the Ontario PC Party won a third majority last week with a campaign slogan that was federally motivated - "Protect Ontario" (from Trump). The PC's have shown us since 2018 that they have prioritized the distribution of alcohol over all of their real provincial responsibilities - public health care, the environment, ODSP, autism supports, affordable housing, public education, and public works projects. Corruption at every turn0
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He’s doubled the debt and less than half of that was covid relief.HughFreakingDillon said:
generational damage? what generational damage beyond covid relief has he done?DarthMaeglin said:Thanks for all the put downs folks. Judgment’s clouded on all sides here.
Zod’s right, it’s too late to hold Trudeau accountable for the generational damage he’s done, certainly in terms of the nation’s debt.
Most here will also need to remember the wide latitude you’ve given Trudeau however, and give equal deference to future Prime Ministers.
and honestly, I do try to look at it through an objective lens. This was something I became more cognizant of in the trump era; "is everything he does evil, or is it just because I'm assuming it is BECAUSE I know he's evil". Unfortunately, it's mostly the former. But I will absolutely give PP an objective scanning when he's PM.
He’s forced a cultural shame on us (really, several) while rarely celebrating our country.
He changed bail laws which has led to ridiculous situations of repeat offenders being freed beyond reason (talk with any police chief). This was done in the early days when he also ensured Canadian citizenship wouldn’t be denied to eligible terrorists.
He’s created an economic environment that has chased away investment and crippled us in terms of getting our resources to market which has in turn crippled us in the current dispute with the States (to say nothing of his incessant anti-Trump rhetoric domestically hurting our relationship with Trump).
He’s hugely grown the public service with no corresponding improvement in services, actually by most reports services are more frustrating to access now.
Circling back to covid, at the time it broke out globally his government refused to deal with the railroad blockades which distracted many from preparing for the arrival of covid. By the way, when is the federal review of our response to covid (Justin wouldn’t be avoiding accountability, would he?)?
There’s likely more, but I’ll stop there."The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 20220
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