Canadian Politics Redux

Meltdown99

‘In that moment, I knew he wanted me to lie.’ Jody Wilson-Raybould recalls a tension-filled meeting with Justin Trudeau

DarthMaeglin

Meltdown99 said:

‘In that moment, I knew he wanted me to lie.’ Jody Wilson-Raybould recalls a tension-filled meeting with Justin Trudeau

The entire article is quite informative, I only hope it gets the attention it deserves. Unsurprisingly, no comments seem to be allowed on the article, lol.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jody-wilson-raybould-trudeau-1.6172488

DarthMaeglin

Suspect charged in the gravel toss. Good.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/shane-marshall-people-s-party-gravel-trudeau-1.6172690

Meltdown99

Breaking news.  Trudeau says “he feels safer now that the police have taken down this dangerous pebble tosser..”  Trudeau went onto say “Canada needs a pebble registry or a complete ban on pebbles.”  

Then Trudeau mused and wondered how is pebble rubble is doing these days…

Meltdown99

Has an arrest been made for Bernier egg thrower?

I had pebbles tossed at me when I was a kid.  I must have felt things differently.  

Meltdown99

https://globalnews.ca/news/8183597/justin-trudeau-jody-wilson-raybould-revenge/

COMMENTARY: Trudeau deserved Jody Wilson-Raybould’s revenge

DarthMaeglin

Meltdown99 said:

https://globalnews.ca/news/8183597/justin-trudeau-jody-wilson-raybould-revenge/

COMMENTARY: Trudeau deserved Jody Wilson-Raybould’s revenge

Interesting read, thanks, very telling that the (quoted) Prime Minister’s website essentially says ultimate authority for legal decisions lie not with the AG but with Cabinet. For those of us who believe in the rule of law that is patently false.

Finally finished the English “debate” last night, can I get my 2 hours back? The format was a joke, in my opinion. I liked Blanchet’s tactic with Rebel media, “I don’t answer questions from Rebel media.” I haven’t seen Trudeau “own” the Rebel reporter yet. I also liked (I believe it was) Andrew Coyne’s observation that Trudeau seemed over-caffeinated.

DarthMaeglin

Newest numbers from the PBO:

Con - 31
NDP - 17
Lib - 11

And just to be clear, I don’t trust ANY party’s internal costing.

Zod

Am I only the only one that doesn't care that the government tried to give a Canadian company a pass on bribing officials in a 3rd world country?

I kind of just thought that was how business was done in less developed countries.   The whole thing, with all the press, I dunno, I never really cared about any of it..    Maybe it's just me?  Does the media bringing it up over and over again really do that much?

erebus

Gun control is my non-issue
yes, it’s important, but probably like 25th on my list
Canada is relatively smart about guns but the Libs are trying to make it a wedge issue. 

Won’t sway my vote one way or the other 

Zod

yah I don't get the guns thing either.  Legal ones don't seem like a big problem in Canada, it's generally the illegal ones that are an issue.

making laws we don't need, Canadian governments since 1867.

dignin

Liberals bouncing back in the latest polls.

Meltdown99

Guns, abortion and Covid seem to be what this election is about.

seems no one has a plan to grow the economy, grow wages etc…but they all have a plan to tax us…

and no doubt in my mind if Mr blackface gets a majority he will introduce a capital gains tax of some sort on principle residences.

erebus

Guns and abortion are red herring wedge issues.

All parties are promising the moon, but no party will be able to fulfill their ludicrous promises 

Cons want you to pay for everything up front, then they will give you a “tax break”

no way the Libs will win a majority, too much hate out there

no party will actually  do anything for the everyday average person, it’s all pandering to the special interests 

Meltdown99

I have to agree.  The big loser in this election is the average person.

Zod

Meltdown99 said:

Guns, abortion and Covid seem to be what this election is about.

seems no one has a plan to grow the economy, grow wages etc…but they all have a plan to tax us…

and no doubt in my mind if Mr blackface gets a majority he will introduce a capital gains tax of some sort on principle residences.

I don't get the cap gains on principle residence thing.  That would make it so much harder for people to move.    Given real estate prices you'd kind of end up stuck.

I think introducing a cap gains tax would probably cost you the next election.

If I were going to do it, I'd be more stealthy.  I'd make it into an estate tax.   If someone dies with a house in their possession (unless they have a spouse they didn't bother to make it joint with) then the capital gains tax applies to estate.  Something insidious like that so the government gets extra revenue, but it keeps letting people move around.

Meltdown99

A meeting with the clerk of the privy council.

As he went on, I suddenly blurted out, “I don’t want you to say anything further about what happened after September 17.” To this day, I am still surprised I said that. I know why I did it and why I wanted him to stop talking—I was trying to leave space open for a constructive solution to the mess the PM and his office had created and that, in my overly optimistic opinion, could still be found. Either the prime minister knew everything that had happened and did not care and was clearly lying to me and the country, or he did not know what had been happening during the months after September 17 to try to exert pressure on me and was not in control of his office. He was either complicit or incompetent. If it was the former, and the prime minister admitted it to me, there was nothing I could do to help address this matter. It was over. Either for him or me. Or even potentially the government. If it was the latter, lord help the country, there still would have been a way to admit everything publicly, address the wrongs, and do better—much better; there still would have been a way to preserve the credibility of our system and respect the rule of law…JWR

Meltdown99

Zod said:

Meltdown99 said:

Guns, abortion and Covid seem to be what this election is about.

seems no one has a plan to grow the economy, grow wages etc…but they all have a plan to tax us…

and no doubt in my mind if Mr blackface gets a majority he will introduce a capital gains tax of some sort on principle residences.

I don't get the cap gains on principle residence thing.  That would make it so much harder for people to move.    Given real estate prices you'd kind of end up stuck.

I think introducing a cap gains tax would probably cost you the next election.

If I were going to do it, I'd be more stealthy.  I'd make it into an estate tax.   If someone dies with a house in their possession (unless they have a spouse they didn't bother to make it joint with) then the capital gains tax applies to estate.  Something insidious like that so the government gets extra revenue, but it keeps letting people move around.

I pay a tax when I bought my home, I should not have to pay when I sell it.  All Trudeau knows is tax and spend…he has a candidate in the east coast who has already stated a capital gains tax is coming…

I pay tax on everything on own except my weed.  Why should the people who I leave my estate have to pay taxes on stuff that has already been taxed.

it’s the same as an automobile…every time an auto gets sold the crooked government gets tax…that bs.  With the taxes these crooks collect you’d think Canada would be a well oiled machine, yet our most precious social service, healthcare is a mess in many parts of the country…

Parksy

Zod said:

Am I only the only one that doesn't care that the government tried to give a Canadian company a pass on bribing officials in a 3rd world country?

I kind of just thought that was how business was done in less developed countries.   The whole thing, with all the press, I dunno, I never really cared about any of it..    Maybe it's just me?  Does the media bringing it up over and over again really do that much?

From an ethics point of view.. what Trudeau and liberals did was wrong. Dead wrong.   That said... would O'Toole have done the same thing? I believe so, 100%. 

Parksy

....  So just in general, what are some of your predictions for the election? 

Mine is a minority Liberal government again... possibly with slightly more seats, but still not enough for majority. 

What I'm keenly interested in seeing, probably not in the overall results, but in the ridings.. is if the Liberals gain where the Greens lose, and if the Conservatives lose where the PPC gains. 

I'm seeing lots of ads in the social medias where PPC are trying to make a strong push.. but at the same time labelling O'Toole as Trudeau Lite.