Canadian Politics Redux

Meltdown99

'I know who I am:' Labrador MP defends Inuk identity after Nunavut MP's questions

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/jones-inuk-identity-nunatukavut-questioned-1.5999068

Now the leftist mps are fighting over ones heritage...lol

Meltdown99

Was Canada invited to join AUKUS? Officials mum but stress no interest in subs

https://globalnews.ca/news/8196164/aukus-defence-deal-canada-china-relations/

Why would we join that?  We much prefer leaky British subs..

HughFreakingDillon

Jagmeet is blaming Trudeau for Jason Kenney's covid failures in Alberta. HAHAHA. 

dignin

HughFreakingDillon said:

Jagmeet is blaming Trudeau for Jason Kenney's covid failures in Alberta. HAHAHA. 

Jagmeet is really out to lunch and I have trouble taking him seriously.

Makes it impossible to vote for his party.

Zod

HughFreakingDillon said:

Jagmeet is blaming Trudeau for Jason Kenney's covid failures in Alberta. HAHAHA. 

lol...   I think that's been one of things in Canada that gets a little blurred.   The Federal government pretty much handled the spending, vaccine procurement, and international border regulations.  Everything else was done individually by the provinces.

That was quite the news yesterday that my province (BC) can't take any of Alberta's overflow ICU patients.  It makes us look bad, but we're not in a great situation either.   Our ICU #'s keep creeping up and we're running out of capacity too.   We've already done the thing where we cancel surgeries and what not to increase ICU capacity, so there's probably going to be people dying from delayed procedures they should be getting.

What I guess is amazing is Ontario seems to have been doing pretty well through the 4th wave so far....

Meltdown99

Meltdown99

Alberta will be sending patients to Ontario.  No problem if they are vacinnated.  As far as I'm concerned Alberta can keep their unvaccinated covid patients.  Unvacinnated covid patients should be placed in field hospitals...

Parksy

Zod said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Jagmeet is blaming Trudeau for Jason Kenney's covid failures in Alberta. HAHAHA. 

lol...   I think that's been one of things in Canada that gets a little blurred.   The Federal government pretty much handled the spending, vaccine procurement, and international border regulations.  Everything else was done individually by the provinces.

That was quite the news yesterday that my province (BC) can't take any of Alberta's overflow ICU patients.  It makes us look bad, but we're not in a great situation either.   Our ICU #'s keep creeping up and we're running out of capacity too.   We've already done the thing where we cancel surgeries and what not to increase ICU capacity, so there's probably going to be people dying from delayed procedures they should be getting.

What I guess is amazing is Ontario seems to have been doing pretty well through the 4th wave so far....

Regarding Ontario... we didn't scale back restrictions as much as BC and Alberta.  My folks were in BC visiting family and they didn't need to wear masks in the grocery store...  I was like 'Huh!?' lol ...  Alberta.. they're just terrible. 

Regarding the blurriness of our blame game...  that to me illustrates the other on going pandemic in Canada and around the world...  stupidity. 

Stupidity has been infecting a lot of people of late.  I mostly blame forum boards and social media.  The last year has been remarkable.  

My cousin posted something along the lines of this earlier:  "More restrictions coming regarding my restaurant.  #fucktrudeau #trudumb #nicehairthough .   And I'm like... ok...  you do realize that you're the dumb one in all of this right?   But of course 20 morons were right there with him. Lol. 

Trudeau can and should be blamed for a lot of things, but so much attention is being put on 'freedoms' and restrictions and they're being aimed at Trudeau quite falsely.  It's nonsensical and stupid.  I'm amazed that even O'Toole doesn't seem to be focusing much attention on Trudeau's ethical and leadership failures.  If you live in Ontario and you're upset about vaccine passports, masks, closures...  none of that is federal jurisdiction... none. 

If you live in Ontario and you see what's happening with those things and decide to say that Trudeau is turning Canada into an authoritarian dictatorship........  you really really really need to pick up a book... and not Facebook. Facebook doesn't count as a book. Never did. 

I should point out too.. for all the "communism" "authoritarian" "dictator" slurs being thrown towards Trudeau.   If you say those things... but also criticize him for calling an election.... you sir.... are fucking dumb. 

oftenreading

The patients in ICU with covid are overwhelmingly not vaccinated. I don’t know the stats today, but last week every single COVID patient in ICU in BC was unvaccinated. 

In BC we have good vaccination numbers, but even with 85% of eligible people vaccinated that still leaves a good chunk vulnerable  who are getting really sick. Add to that the staffing shortages, because 18 months of working during the pandemic in tough and stressful situations grinds you down. I’m glad we have our vaccine card now for entry to all nonessential services. The opiate crisis is also terrible on the coast and overdose deaths just keep on coming, which is heartbreaking. We  are just trying to hang on until things eventually improve. 

HughFreakingDillon

Parksy said:

Zod said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Jagmeet is blaming Trudeau for Jason Kenney's covid failures in Alberta. HAHAHA. 

lol...   I think that's been one of things in Canada that gets a little blurred.   The Federal government pretty much handled the spending, vaccine procurement, and international border regulations.  Everything else was done individually by the provinces.

That was quite the news yesterday that my province (BC) can't take any of Alberta's overflow ICU patients.  It makes us look bad, but we're not in a great situation either.   Our ICU #'s keep creeping up and we're running out of capacity too.   We've already done the thing where we cancel surgeries and what not to increase ICU capacity, so there's probably going to be people dying from delayed procedures they should be getting.

What I guess is amazing is Ontario seems to have been doing pretty well through the 4th wave so far....

Regarding Ontario... we didn't scale back restrictions as much as BC and Alberta.  My folks were in BC visiting family and they didn't need to wear masks in the grocery store...  I was like 'Huh!?' lol ...  Alberta.. they're just terrible. 

Regarding the blurriness of our blame game...  that to me illustrates the other on going pandemic in Canada and around the world...  stupidity. 

Stupidity has been infecting a lot of people of late.  I mostly blame forum boards and social media.  The last year has been remarkable.  

My cousin posted something along the lines of this earlier:  "More restrictions coming regarding my restaurant.  #fucktrudeau #trudumb #nicehairthough .   And I'm like... ok...  you do realize that you're the dumb one in all of this right?   But of course 20 morons were right there with him. Lol. 

Trudeau can and should be blamed for a lot of things, but so much attention is being put on 'freedoms' and restrictions and they're being aimed at Trudeau quite falsely.  It's nonsensical and stupid.  I'm amazed that even O'Toole doesn't seem to be focusing much attention on Trudeau's ethical and leadership failures.  If you live in Ontario and you're upset about vaccine passports, masks, closures...  none of that is federal jurisdiction... none. 

If you live in Ontario and you see what's happening with those things and decide to say that Trudeau is turning Canada into an authoritarian dictatorship........  you really really really need to pick up a book... and not Facebook. Facebook doesn't count as a book. Never did. 

I should point out too.. for all the "communism" "authoritarian" "dictator" slurs being thrown towards Trudeau.   If you say those things... but also criticize him for calling an election.... you sir.... are fucking dumb. 

excellent post. 

HughFreakingDillon

oftenreading said:

The patients in ICU with covid are overwhelmingly not vaccinated. I don’t know the stats today, but last week every single COVID patient in ICU in BC was unvaccinated. 

In BC we have good vaccination numbers, but even with 85% of eligible people vaccinated that still leaves a good chunk vulnerable  who are getting really sick. Add to that the staffing shortages, because 18 months of working during the pandemic in tough and stressful situations grinds you down. I’m glad we have our vaccine card now for entry to all nonessential services. The opiate crisis is also terrible on the coast and overdose deaths just keep on coming, which is heartbreaking. We  are just trying to hang on until things eventually improve. 

our friends from Vancouver visiting this summer were making fun of us a bit here and there, bragging how they don't have to wear masks anymore, etc, "what's happening in Manitoba? what the hell are you guys doing?". Yeah, ya might wanna take that back. 

Meltdown99

My brother-in-law has had hip surgery cancelled multiple times because of Covid.  I have a procedure needing to be done that is delayed...what does fatty ford do...invites Alberta's covid cases here.  Fuck Alberta, they tell us how independent they are...then deal with your own stupid decisions...

At what point do we need to start holding individuals responsible for their poor choice in this situation?


Keep coddling these shitheads.  I say unless you have a valid medical reason, then fine...but most don't.  They are just stupid at this point and don't deserve to share the same services...

HughFreakingDillon

so you think we should let people die so you can have a non-life threatening procedure?

yikes. 

DarthMaeglin

Don’t criticize the CBC in their comments sections, lol. First was deactivated within minutes, second seems to still be posted, lol.

Meltdown99

I guess O’Toole will embarrass Canada on the world stage.

Trudeau has a point

Meltdown99

'Trudeau is bad for Canada,' Singh says as Liberal leader asks progressives to unite

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-is-bad-for-canada-singh-says-1.6179902

dignin

HughFreakingDillon said:

so you think we should let people die so you can have a non-life threatening procedure?

yikes. 

I'm pretty much with him. I have zero empathy left for these assholes.

They have broken the social contract.

dignin

If my family gets in a bad car crash today and any of us need an ICU bed we may be shit out of luck.

All because these assholes spend too much time on Facebook.

HughFreakingDillon

dignin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

so you think we should let people die so you can have a non-life threatening procedure?

yikes. 

I'm pretty much with him. I have zero empathy left for these assholes.

They have broken the social contract.

dignin said:

If my family gets in a bad car crash today and any of us need an ICU bed we may be shit out of luck.

All because these assholes spend too much time on Facebook.

I agree with the second statement.

I have a surgery that I need done at some point, but I can live with it in the mean time. 

but trading someone's life just so I can be 100% again? 

DarthMaeglin

I’ve been trying to find out if our government is working on approving any “dead virus” (attenuated?) vaccines. I’ve seen it expressed online (and in person with an (gasp!) unvaccinated friend) that getting one of these more traditional vaccines available would address some peoples’ hesitancy. Unfortunately, this doesn’t seem to be part of the discussion which is disappointing to me.

Full disclosure, I was hesitant about the mnra vaccines but by the time I became eligible AZ had been taken away. So I went and got my 2 shots of Pfizer, setting aside my concerns for the moment. As boosters become more necessary I’m not sure if I want to continue to be part of the experiment. We’re told to follow the science but not worry about potential long term effects from the vaccines, feels like a double standard to me.

 I hope this doesn’t make me one of those dirty piece of shit “anti-vaxxers,” but I’m having to consider whether I’ll find myself standing amongst them in the future, and the ostracization and segregation is very troubling to me.