summation please.... I can't watch youtube at work.
Will democrats ever stop punching themselves in the face? Weak outcome for the Dems means that they will win the next election according to Pelosi. She sees no reason to change ANYTHING within the party.
It's Cenk from TYT, worth seeing when you get a chance.
If there is even a whiff of Russian involvement it should be investigated. What argument is there against that?
Oh I don't know, the Dems who refuse to acknowledge that they had a weak candidate with a weak campaign, and one of the 2 most unpopular candidates in US history? Seeking refuge in blaming and investigating Russia as the culprit does NOT help this weakened party. It makes them look worse as they continue to drop responsibility and seek blame elsewhere STILL - 4 1/2 weeks later.
If there is even a whiff of Russian involvement it should be investigated. What argument is there against that?
Oh I don't know, the Dems who refuse to acknowledge that they had a weak candidate with a weak campaign, and one of the 2 most unpopular candidates in US history? Seeking refuge in blaming and investigating Russia as the culprit does NOT help this weakened party. It makes them look worse as they continue to drop responsibility and seek blame elsewhere STILL - 4 1/2 weeks later.
This isn't (or shouldn't be) a partisan issue. There is a chance a foreign government sought to covertly influence the outcome of our election. Of course it should be investigated. That the Democrats have not carried themselves well does not change that.
An investigation isn't seeking refuge in anything.
Brilliant move on the Dems part to claim Fake News is responsible for Clinton's loss. The Dems can then justify not having to do any self-reflection on their many problems with the election, never have to make any changes, and continue with business as usual. Democrats will do ANYTHING to avoid self-reflection rather than change policy or strategy.
A Clinton Fan Manufactured Fake News That MSNBC Personalities Spread to Discredit WikiLeaks Docs
If there is even a whiff of Russian involvement it should be investigated. What argument is there against that?
Oh I don't know, the Dems who refuse to acknowledge that they had a weak candidate with a weak campaign, and one of the 2 most unpopular candidates in US history? Seeking refuge in blaming and investigating Russia as the culprit does NOT help this weakened party. It makes them look worse as they continue to drop responsibility and seek blame elsewhere STILL - 4 1/2 weeks later.
Weak campaign? 80,000 people in 3 states decided this election vs 2,600,000 popular vote margin across 50 states That's hardly what I would consider weak.
It's weak when their candidate was one of the two most popular candidates in US history... then LOST. It's weak that they can't accept responsibility for their loss. It's weak when they keep blaming Russia for their problems. It's weak when they're using the "fake news" news stories to push their agenda. (Ahem, above)
If there is even a whiff of Russian involvement it should be investigated. What argument is there against that?
Oh I don't know, the Dems who refuse to acknowledge that they had a weak candidate with a weak campaign, and one of the 2 most unpopular candidates in US history? Seeking refuge in blaming and investigating Russia as the culprit does NOT help this weakened party. It makes them look worse as they continue to drop responsibility and seek blame elsewhere STILL - 4 1/2 weeks later.
Weak campaign? 80,000 people in 3 states decided this election vs 2,600,000 popular vote margin across 50 states That's hardly what I would consider weak.
A strong campaign competes nationally, not just on the coasts and in the cities. A 2.6 million margin of "victory" coupled with a blowout loss in the Electoral College is nothing to be proud of.
If there is even a whiff of Russian involvement it should be investigated. What argument is there against that?
Oh I don't know, the Dems who refuse to acknowledge that they had a weak candidate with a weak campaign, and one of the 2 most unpopular candidates in US history? Seeking refuge in blaming and investigating Russia as the culprit does NOT help this weakened party. It makes them look worse as they continue to drop responsibility and seek blame elsewhere STILL - 4 1/2 weeks later.
Weak campaign? 80,000 people in 3 states decided this election vs 2,600,000 popular vote margin across 50 states That's hardly what I would consider weak.
If there is even a whiff of Russian involvement it should be investigated. What argument is there against that?
Oh I don't know, the Dems who refuse to acknowledge that they had a weak candidate with a weak campaign, and one of the 2 most unpopular candidates in US history? Seeking refuge in blaming and investigating Russia as the culprit does NOT help this weakened party. It makes them look worse as they continue to drop responsibility and seek blame elsewhere STILL - 4 1/2 weeks later.
Weak campaign? 80,000 people in 3 states decided this election vs 2,600,000 popular vote margin across 50 states That's hardly what I would consider weak.
A strong campaign competes nationally, not just on the coasts and in the cities. A 2.6 million margin of "victory" coupled with a blowout loss in the Electoral College is nothing to be proud of.
Yup. She was the chosen one. She was anointed, and was supposed to glide into the Oval Office. Especially since her opponent was a joke candidate.
But she ran an awful campaign. She was unlikable. She was arrogant and over confident. There really isn't much to praise about her effort. She earned that loss by working hard for it and surrounding herself with establishment, beltway veterans who were as out of touch as she is with voters in the middle of the country. If I were running as a Dem next time around I'd make sure I surrounded myself with a different set of characters. After a month it is clear that they are still out of touch, blaming everything and everyone but themselves and their candidate for their loss.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
If there is even a whiff of Russian involvement it should be investigated. What argument is there against that?
Oh I don't know, the Dems who refuse to acknowledge that they had a weak candidate with a weak campaign, and one of the 2 most unpopular candidates in US history? Seeking refuge in blaming and investigating Russia as the culprit does NOT help this weakened party. It makes them look worse as they continue to drop responsibility and seek blame elsewhere STILL - 4 1/2 weeks later.
Weak campaign? 80,000 people in 3 states decided this election vs 2,600,000 popular vote margin across 50 states That's hardly what I would consider weak.
When you lose to President-elect Trump what do you consider it?
It's weak when their candidate was one of the two most popular candidates in US history... then LOST. It's weak that they can't accept responsibility for their loss. It's weak when they keep blaming Russia for their problems. It's weak when they're using the "fake news" news stories to push their agenda. (Ahem, above)
Weak, weak, weak.
You're right it was weak But win or lose, no matter who you supported, if a foreign government was in any way involved in how the election turned out then it had to be investigated and dealt with.
It's weak when their candidate was one of the two most popular candidates in US history... then LOST. It's weak that they can't accept responsibility for their loss. It's weak when they keep blaming Russia for their problems. It's weak when they're using the "fake news" news stories to push their agenda. (Ahem, above)
Weak, weak, weak.
You're right it was weak But win or lose, no matter who you supported, if a foreign government was in any way involved in how the election turned out then it had to be investigated and dealt with.
Ok, but I still call Bullshit. We'll see how many tax dollars are spent on this.
Claiming investigating other countries for our election issues is nothing with deflecting andnot taking responsibility. Let's go ahead and spend our media, time and money on this.
Claiming investigating other countries for our election issues is nothing with deflecting andnot taking responsibility. Let's go ahead and spend our media, time and money on this.
So the country should only focus on what you perceived as corrupt and just turn an eye away from this Russia issue ?
Claiming investigating other countries for our election issues is nothing with deflecting andnot taking responsibility. Let's go ahead and spend our media, time and money on this.
Don't worry. It won't come anywhere close to what Benghazi cost the taxpayer.
Claiming investigating other countries for our election issues is nothing with deflecting andnot taking responsibility. Let's go ahead and spend our media, time and money on this.
Take a step back and imagine Bernie was the nominee and not Hillary. Would you be saying the same thing? Because I would. This needs to cut deeper than partisan divides and candidate preferences.
Well then everything needs to be exposed & investigated including any wrongdoing that happened during the primaries, see who's guilty and who's not put the guilty ones in prison ...Retribution against Russia would be more sanctions .
Claiming investigating other countries for our election issues is nothing with deflecting andnot taking responsibility. Let's go ahead and spend our media, time and money on this.
So the country should only focus on what you perceived as corrupt and just turn an eye away from this Russia issue ?
When are you Dems going to stop blaming others for losing?
Claiming investigating other countries for our election issues is nothing with deflecting andnot taking responsibility. Let's go ahead and spend our media, time and money on this.
Take a step back and imagine Bernie was the nominee and not Hillary. Would you be saying the same thing? Because I would. This needs to cut deeper than partisan divides and candidate preferences.
Any party intentionally squashing an opponent running on the same party ticket deserves scrutiny. Any party cheating to win the primary deserves the same and more including shame and calls to step down. And any candidate who refuses to accept and admit defeat deserves to be called on it. Obama is embarrassing himself and legacy when insisting on blaming Russia. Investigate all you want, The fools are the American people believing it all. We have MUCH bigger problems but let's focus on that!
Bernie would not, with his level of decency and integrity do half of what the Dem party has pulled and look the other way. You are comparing apples to oranges right there.
Claiming investigating other countries for our election issues is nothing with deflecting andnot taking responsibility. Let's go ahead and spend our media, time and money on this.
So the country should only focus on what you perceived as corrupt and just turn an eye away from this Russia issue ?
When are you Dems going to stop blaming others for losing?
You need to step back and look at the big picture. Forget about political parties. If the Russians played a role in tampering/swaying the voting process in the US it is a major concern. It's not to reverse any decisions or make excuses. It's our old enemy, turned ally, turning enemy again influencing our politics at the voter level. Do you not see the problem with that?
Donald Trump, without any evidence, sides with Putin over the US Intelligence Community. That's a stunning development. He forgets which side he is on... oh wait, he doesn't. He's on HIS side.
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It's Cenk from TYT, worth seeing when you get a chance.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
An investigation isn't seeking refuge in anything.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
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http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/12/09/clinton-fan-manufactured-fake-news-msnbc-personalities-spread-discredit-wikileaks
80,000 people in 3 states decided this election
vs
2,600,000 popular vote margin across 50 states
That's hardly what I would consider weak.
Weak, weak, weak.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
But she ran an awful campaign. She was unlikable. She was arrogant and over confident. There really isn't much to praise about her effort. She earned that loss by working hard for it and surrounding herself with establishment, beltway veterans who were as out of touch as she is with voters in the middle of the country. If I were running as a Dem next time around I'd make sure I surrounded myself with a different set of characters. After a month it is clear that they are still out of touch, blaming everything and everyone but themselves and their candidate for their loss.
But win or lose, no matter who you supported, if a foreign government was in any way involved in how the election turned out then it had to be investigated and dealt with.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Bernie would not, with his level of decency and integrity do half of what the Dem party has pulled and look the other way. You are comparing apples to oranges right there.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/10/politics/donald-trump-response-russian-hacking/index.html