Hillary won more votes for President

mrussel1

tonifig8 said:

You know what's missing on this Hillary thread? A positive post.

I got one:
Donald Trump is worse!

Clever. It's because we spend our time to reacting to negative and misleading posts that are rooted in the right wing echo chamber.

rssesq

I had needy latino food for lunch, DELISH.
How's dat.

tonifig8 said:

You know what's missing on this Hillary thread? A positive post.

I got one:
Donald Trump is worse!

OnWis97

tonifig8 said:

You know what's missing on this Hillary thread? A positive post.

I got one:
Donald Trump is worse!

It's a person that belongs in prison vs. a person that's totally unqualified. I can't vote for either. But I hope the criminal wins.

BS44325

JimmyV said:

I don't remember any First Lady before this having such an impact as a speaker/surrogate. That's in part due to the direction of this campaign, but also Michelle Obama is just that good.

What about Hillary Clinton? The fact you forgot about her is very telling.

mrussel1

BS44325 said:

JimmyV said:

I don't remember any First Lady before this having such an impact as a speaker/surrogate. That's in part due to the direction of this campaign, but also Michelle Obama is just that good.

What about Hillary Clinton? The fact you forgot about her is very telling.

Not really. Michelle is certainly a more engaging speaker than HRC, but that doesn't mean she has a stronger grasp of the issues, foreign policy, etc. There's no denying the power of Michelle's words and how she delivers them.

JimmyV

BS44325 said:

JimmyV said:

I don't remember any First Lady before this having such an impact as a speaker/surrogate. That's in part due to the direction of this campaign, but also Michelle Obama is just that good.

What about Hillary Clinton? The fact you forgot about her is very telling.

Not really and I didn't forget her. Hillary is not an effective public speaker in my opinion and never has been. I also don't remember Hillary Clinton ever going to bat for Al Gore the way Michelle has for her. Maybe it happened but I don't remember it.

BS44325

Halifax2TheMax said:

unsung said:

Don't forget the guns they were running through benghazi.

Were they using the same planes they used to fly cocaine into Arkansas in the '70s and '80s?

It's amazing how you blow this off. You are clearly a non-interventionist and the war in Libya followed by the gun-running was exactly that. Nobody is claiming these actions were illegal but it certainly was a decision that did not work out in the administrations favour. What people aren't happy with is the failure to account for the policy, to discuss why it took place and where it went wrong. There should be some transparency on this and for someone who is as mad about Iraq as you appear to be it is quite surprising how you simply don't care. Libya was a war of choice that might have even had some merit and there should be a real discussion of the policy. Your inability to be consistent on the issue shows a real lean towards partisanship over any real dispute with an interventionist foreign policy.

Godfather.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/14/emails-show-calculations-behind-clinton-trade-deal-waffling.html

Godfather.

Boxes&Books

rssesq said:

I had needy latino food for lunch, DELISH.
How's dat.

tonifig8 said:

You know what's missing on this Hillary thread? A positive post.

I got one:
Donald Trump is worse!

I see what you did there...

mrussel1

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

unsung said:

Don't forget the guns they were running through benghazi.

Were they using the same planes they used to fly cocaine into Arkansas in the '70s and '80s?

It's amazing how you blow this off. You are clearly a non-interventionist and the war in Libya followed by the gun-running was exactly that. Nobody is claiming these actions were illegal but it certainly was a decision that did not work out in the administrations favour. What people aren't happy with is the failure to account for the policy, to discuss why it took place and where it went wrong. There should be some transparency on this and for someone who is as mad about Iraq as you appear to be it is quite surprising how you simply don't care. Libya was a war of choice that might have even had some merit and there should be a real discussion of the policy. Your inability to be consistent on the issue shows a real lean towards partisanship over any real dispute with an interventionist foreign policy.

What would you have done in that situation? The rebels were pinned in Benghazi by the advancing Qhaddafi forces. France and England are pushing for intervention. The rebel's charismatic, pro democracy, western educated leader is in your office telling you about the plans for democracy... finally a western democracy not being forced down a Muslim throat, rather one being instituted by the people. What do you do? Let Qhaddafi slaughter the rebels or provide support?
The outcome in Libya was terrible. There are many reasons to second guess it. But I don't think you can draw a correlation between Iraq and this engagement. One was completely our undertaking with our troops. The other was not.

Gern Blansten

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rssesq

feel free now, it's after lunch, but it's not good, I warned ya, lol

rssesq said:

I wonder if Podesta would get upset if Catholics started discussing things like why are they still performing Metzitzah B'Peh.
Believe me, YOU DONT WANNA KNOW! It's too early.

pjalive21

Emails show '08 Clinton camp probed Obama vulnerability
on Muslim father, cocaine use\

Published October 14, 2016
FoxNews.com
Another day, another batch of WikiLeaks emails – this time, showing the 2008 Hillary Clinton campaign’s efforts to test then­Sen.
Barack Obama’s potential vulnerabilities, including on deeply personal matters like his father’s Muslim faith and his own past
cocaine use.
The email exchange, part of the latest release of hacked emails purportedly from Clinton 2016 Campaign Chairman John
Podesta’s account, are from early January 2008 and discuss what is described in the subject line as a “McCain Survey.”
The discussion, however, focuses on apparent polling about potential weak spots for Obama, who had just beaten Clinton in the
Iowa Democratic caucuses at that stage in the race.
The Clinton allies and strategists float a slew of potential topics including:
“Obama (owe­BAHM­uh) was the only candidate at a recent event not to cover his heart during the national anthem and he has
stopped wearing an American flag pin.”
“Obama (owe­BAHM­uh)'s father was a Muslim and Obama grew up among Muslims in the world's most populous Islamic
country.”
See the Fox News 2016 battleground prediction map and make your own election projections. See Predictions Map →
“Obama (owe­BAHM­uh) described his former use of cocaine as using ‘a little blow.’”
The topics are listed in an email from analyst Kristi Fuksa asking those on the list to cut one:
“We've reworked the Obama message into the survey, as requested. But on the list of negative facts we need to cut ONE since
we separated out gay adoption and his use of cocaine,” she writes.
The cocaine question was separated out, apparently at the request of strategist Paul Begala

Gern Blansten

pjalive21 said:

Emails show '08 Clinton camp probed Obama vulnerability
on Muslim father, cocaine use\

Published October 14, 2016
FoxNews.com
Another day, another batch of WikiLeaks emails – this time, showing the 2008 Hillary Clinton campaign’s efforts to test then­Sen.
Barack Obama’s potential vulnerabilities, including on deeply personal matters like his father’s Muslim faith and his own past
cocaine use.
The email exchange, part of the latest release of hacked emails purportedly from Clinton 2016 Campaign Chairman John
Podesta’s account, are from early January 2008 and discuss what is described in the subject line as a “McCain Survey.”
The discussion, however, focuses on apparent polling about potential weak spots for Obama, who had just beaten Clinton in the
Iowa Democratic caucuses at that stage in the race.
The Clinton allies and strategists float a slew of potential topics including:
“Obama (owe­BAHM­uh) was the only candidate at a recent event not to cover his heart during the national anthem and he has
stopped wearing an American flag pin.”
“Obama (owe­BAHM­uh)'s father was a Muslim and Obama grew up among Muslims in the world's most populous Islamic
country.”
See the Fox News 2016 battleground prediction map and make your own election projections. See Predictions Map →
“Obama (owe­BAHM­uh) described his former use of cocaine as using ‘a little blow.’”
The topics are listed in an email from analyst Kristi Fuksa asking those on the list to cut one:
“We've reworked the Obama message into the survey, as requested. But on the list of negative facts we need to cut ONE since
we separated out gay adoption and his use of cocaine,” she writes.
The cocaine question was separated out, apparently at the request of strategist Paul Begala

Is this really a revelation? All this stuff came out way back then. Who cares?

mrussel1

Gern Blansten said:

pjalive21 said:

Emails show '08 Clinton camp probed Obama vulnerability
on Muslim father, cocaine use\

Published October 14, 2016
FoxNews.com
Another day, another batch of WikiLeaks emails – this time, showing the 2008 Hillary Clinton campaign’s efforts to test then­Sen.
Barack Obama’s potential vulnerabilities, including on deeply personal matters like his father’s Muslim faith and his own past
cocaine use.
The email exchange, part of the latest release of hacked emails purportedly from Clinton 2016 Campaign Chairman John
Podesta’s account, are from early January 2008 and discuss what is described in the subject line as a “McCain Survey.”
The discussion, however, focuses on apparent polling about potential weak spots for Obama, who had just beaten Clinton in the
Iowa Democratic caucuses at that stage in the race.
The Clinton allies and strategists float a slew of potential topics including:
“Obama (owe­BAHM­uh) was the only candidate at a recent event not to cover his heart during the national anthem and he has
stopped wearing an American flag pin.”
“Obama (owe­BAHM­uh)'s father was a Muslim and Obama grew up among Muslims in the world's most populous Islamic
country.”
See the Fox News 2016 battleground prediction map and make your own election projections. See Predictions Map →
“Obama (owe­BAHM­uh) described his former use of cocaine as using ‘a little blow.’”
The topics are listed in an email from analyst Kristi Fuksa asking those on the list to cut one:
“We've reworked the Obama message into the survey, as requested. But on the list of negative facts we need to cut ONE since
we separated out gay adoption and his use of cocaine,” she writes.
The cocaine question was separated out, apparently at the request of strategist Paul Begala

Is this really a revelation? All this stuff came out way back then. Who cares?

Wow! This is an election game changer... yet again! A political rival exploring vulnerabilities. Who would have thunk it?

Free

mrussel1 said:

tonifig8 said:

You know what's missing on this Hillary thread? A positive post.

I got one:
Donald Trump is worse!

Clever. It's because we spend our time to reacting to negative and misleading posts that are rooted in the right wing echo chamber.

And there lies the problem. You're too busy reacting and not pro acting. You can't talk about any of her pros, you can only talk about the opposition. Even when many of us have asked over and over and over again why you support Hillary Clinton and you can't come up with anything other than Trump.

Gern Blansten

Free said:

mrussel1 said:

tonifig8 said:

You know what's missing on this Hillary thread? A positive post.

I got one:
Donald Trump is worse!

Clever. It's because we spend our time to reacting to negative and misleading posts that are rooted in the right wing echo chamber.

And there lies the problem. You're too busy reacting and not pro acting. You can't talk about any of her pros, you can only talk about the opposition. Even when many of us have asked over and over and over again why you support Hillary Clinton and you can't come up with anything other than Trump.

That doesn't make any sense. Her pros can be found pretty easily

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/seven-hillary-clintons-biggest-accomplishments/

Free

Lol, because you had to look it up.

I'm not asking you to cite any sources I'm asking why all the individual Hillary supporters on here support her and to not use Trump as a reason. What are her qualities? Why are you voting for her? Out of your own mouth. Again, do not explain that she is not trump, I know that.

josevolution

Free said:

mrussel1 said:

tonifig8 said:

You know what's missing on this Hillary thread? A positive post.

I got one:
Donald Trump is worse!

Clever. It's because we spend our time to reacting to negative and misleading posts that are rooted in the right wing echo chamber.

And there lies the problem. You're too busy reacting and not pro acting. You can't talk about any of her pros, you can only talk about the opposition. Even when many of us have asked over and over and over again why you support Hillary Clinton and you can't come up with anything other than Trump.

Yep that's me I don't give a fuck about what she has done , I'll be voting for her over asshole of the century... now go ahead and tell me how you and the Free movement are so righteous and everyone else is so blind ....

Free

josevolution said:

Free said:

mrussel1 said:

tonifig8 said:

You know what's missing on this Hillary thread? A positive post.

I got one:
Donald Trump is worse!

Clever. It's because we spend our time to reacting to negative and misleading posts that are rooted in the right wing echo chamber.

And there lies the problem. You're too busy reacting and not pro acting. You can't talk about any of her pros, you can only talk about the opposition. Even when many of us have asked over and over and over again why you support Hillary Clinton and you can't come up with anything other than Trump.

Yep that's me I don't give a fuck about what she has done , I'll be voting for her over asshole of the century... now go ahead and tell me how you and the Free movement are so righteous and everyone else is so blind ....

MONTHS. And this isnt about you Jose. This is about all the regular contributors who can't answer that question.

If you feel that I'm being righteous, that's your problem, not mine dude. I'm not. It's a simple question.

However, after thinking about it, if the only reason one is voting for Hillary is because she's not trump, I guess that would be good to know.