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Did you read the WaPo editorial endorsement of Hillary?JC29856 said:I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points?
I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign?
Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat.
I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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What is close to you? The country is polarized. If she wins by 6 points, that's a landslide. If she gets 330 EV, that's a landslide, I would say.JC29856 said:I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points?
I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign?
Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat.
I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.0 -
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No, I stay away from endorsements. I never really understood why they mattered, whether from a publication or a person.Halifax2TheMax said:
Did you read the WaPo editorial endorsement of Hillary?JC29856 said:I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points?
I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign?
Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat.
I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
I liken endorsements to cheerleaders, they don't matter and shouldn't.Post edited by JC29856 on0 -
Well, kind of like how I feel about internal campaign emails but I've been reading them anyway. I'm not asking because I expect you to change your mind but I think it gives a good description of Hillary's flaws. But ignorance is bliss I guess.JC29856 said:
No, I stay away from endorsements. I never really understood why they mattered, whether from a publication or a person.Halifax2TheMax said:
Did you read the WaPo editorial endorsement of Hillary?JC29856 said:I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points?
I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign?
Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat.
I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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If you have a good feel for the inter workings of campaigns then no need to read the campaign emails.Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, kind of like how I feel about internal campaign emails but I've been reading them anyway. I'm not asking because I expect you to change your mind but I think it gives a good description of Hillary's flaws. But ignorance is bliss I guess.JC29856 said:
No, I stay away from endorsements. I never really understood why they mattered, whether from a publication or a person.Halifax2TheMax said:
Did you read the WaPo editorial endorsement of Hillary?JC29856 said:I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points?
I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign?
Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat.
I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.0 -
I love how people are surprised she planned on running earlier than it was announced.. she knew she was running in 2008 after losing the primary to Barack... I think that is pretty obvious to anybody with a pulse
call me when there is something juicy0 -
6 is fair, 400 ev and 4M popular is what I expect.mrussel1 said:
What is close to you? The country is polarized. If she wins by 6 points, that's a landslide. If she gets 330 EV, that's a landslide, I would say.JC29856 said:I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points?
I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign?
Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat.
I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
I also expect the republicans to launch impeachment proceedings shortly after inauguration. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the first day possible, wherever that would be.0 -
I wouldn't be least bit surprised if electoral college went against vote! That would make for a real shit show.JC29856 said:
6 is fair, 400 ev and 4M popular is what I expect.mrussel1 said:
What is close to you? The country is polarized. If she wins by 6 points, that's a landslide. If she gets 330 EV, that's a landslide, I would say.JC29856 said:I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points?
I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign?
Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat.
I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
I also expect the republicans to launch impeachment proceedings shortly after inauguration. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the first day possible, wherever that would be.0 -
That's not going to happen.JC29856 said:
I wouldn't be least bit surprised if electoral college went against vote! That would make for a real shit show.JC29856 said:
6 is fair, 400 ev and 4M popular is what I expect.mrussel1 said:
What is close to you? The country is polarized. If she wins by 6 points, that's a landslide. If she gets 330 EV, that's a landslide, I would say.JC29856 said:I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points?
I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign?
Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat.
I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
I also expect the republicans to launch impeachment proceedings shortly after inauguration. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the first day possible, wherever that would be.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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What do you mean? Where the electors refuse to cast for Hillary? No way. Won't happen.JC29856 said:
I wouldn't be least bit surprised if electoral college went against vote! That would make for a real shit show.JC29856 said:
6 is fair, 400 ev and 4M popular is what I expect.mrussel1 said:
What is close to you? The country is polarized. If she wins by 6 points, that's a landslide. If she gets 330 EV, that's a landslide, I would say.JC29856 said:I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points?
I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign?
Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat.
I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
I also expect the republicans to launch impeachment proceedings shortly after inauguration. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the first day possible, wherever that would be.
No way on 400 either. I'd have to do the math, but you would have to flip some really, really red states to make that happen.0 -
She's been running or preparing to run since at least Bill's second term when she launched her NY Senate bid. Likely longer than that.my2hands said:I love how people are surprised she planned on running earlier than it was announced.. she knew she was running in 2008 after losing the primary to Barack... I think that is pretty obvious to anybody with a pulse
call me when there is something juicy
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I'll say this, the real world in this country I would guess doesn't have the time energy or resources to care, and I don't think that's by accident. One of the things that I wish the real world would realize from the leaks is the number of people, amount of time and resources that go into a presidential run. A real worlder would ask what do this people do to have the time energy resources and money to help in this endeavor, do they have jobs, family etc.mrussel1 said:
He forgot about Vince Foster, Bill Clinton fostering a child from a prostitute, etc.tonifig8 said:Hey Matt, you mentioned that clown Hannity yesterday, or I did, one of us did...anyhow here he is again:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/12/hannity_wikileaks_proves_everything_that_conspiracy_theorists_said_was_true.html
I don't remember anyone ever giving a shit about advocacy groups and the Catholic church.
Who didn't know Saudi was funding ISIS? How is that a Clinton conspiracy?
Again, this is right wing masturbation shit. The real world doesn't care.
If they asked the question maybe they would realized that it is they that provide the time resources and money.0 -
exactly... I was speaking more of running again once Obama was out of office...JimmyV said:
She's been running or preparing to run since at least Bill's second term when she launched her NY Senate bid. Likely longer than that.my2hands said:I love how people are surprised she planned on running earlier than it was announced.. she knew she was running in 2008 after losing the primary to Barack... I think that is pretty obvious to anybody with a pulse
call me when there is something juicy
the real issue she will face is holding the white hosue in 4 years since 16 years of either party in the white house seems impossible with todays ridiculous political environment... but the GOP is pathetic and only caters to older angry white voters and the elite so I cant see how they win the white house ever again unless they completely pivot on most of their platform0 -
I wonder if Trump would run again. What's stopping him?my2hands said:
exactly... I was speaking more of running again once Obama was out of office...JimmyV said:
She's been running or preparing to run since at least Bill's second term when she launched her NY Senate bid. Likely longer than that.my2hands said:I love how people are surprised she planned on running earlier than it was announced.. she knew she was running in 2008 after losing the primary to Barack... I think that is pretty obvious to anybody with a pulse
call me when there is something juicy
the real issue she will face is holding the white hosue in 4 years since 16 years of either party in the white house seems impossible with todays ridiculous political environment... but the GOP is pathetic and only caters to older angry white voters and the elite so I cant see how they win the white house ever again unless they completely pivot on most of their platform0 -
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I wonder if Trump would run again. What's stopping him?my2hands said:
exactly... I was speaking more of running again once Obama was out of office...JimmyV said:
She's been running or preparing to run since at least Bill's second term when she launched her NY Senate bid. Likely longer than that.my2hands said:I love how people are surprised she planned on running earlier than it was announced.. she knew she was running in 2008 after losing the primary to Barack... I think that is pretty obvious to anybody with a pulse
call me when there is something juicy
the real issue she will face is holding the white hosue in 4 years since 16 years of either party in the white house seems impossible with todays ridiculous political environment... but the GOP is pathetic and only caters to older angry white voters and the elite so I cant see how they win the white house ever again unless they completely pivot on most of their platform0 -
Anyone see Michelle Obama's speech today? Very powerful. I think she is even better at giving a speech than her husband.
Here it is.
http://digg.com/video/michelle-obama-speech-trump-sexual-assault0 -
Wow, criticized if I read them, criticized if I don't. I do have a pretty good sense of how political campaigns work but my education and experience wouldn't prevent me from considering other sources of information. Unfortunately, you don't share the same view. Ignorance is indeed bliss.JC29856 said:
If you have a good feel for the inter workings of campaigns then no need to read the campaign emails.Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, kind of like how I feel about internal campaign emails but I've been reading them anyway. I'm not asking because I expect you to change your mind but I think it gives a good description of Hillary's flaws. But ignorance is bliss I guess.JC29856 said:
No, I stay away from endorsements. I never really understood why they mattered, whether from a publication or a person.Halifax2TheMax said:
Did you read the WaPo editorial endorsement of Hillary?JC29856 said:I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points?
I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign?
Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat.
I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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one of the pundits on CNN today called her the most impressive and most effective supporter right now. I agree.dignin said:Anyone see Michelle Obama's speech today? Very powerful. I think she is even better at giving a speech than her husband.
Here it is.
http://digg.com/video/michelle-obama-speech-trump-sexual-assaultBy The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Absolutely no doubt.HughFreakingDillon said:
one of the pundits on CNN today called her the most impressive and most effective supporter right now. I agree.dignin said:Anyone see Michelle Obama's speech today? Very powerful. I think she is even better at giving a speech than her husband.
Here it is.
http://digg.com/video/michelle-obama-speech-trump-sexual-assault0
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