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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Don't forget the guns they were running through benghazi.
  • unsung said:

    Don't forget the guns they were running through benghazi.

    Were they using the same planes they used to fly cocaine into Arkansas in the '70s and '80s?
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    People died, I'm surprised someone would find humor in that.
  • unsung said:

    People died, I'm surprised someone would find humor in that.

    Who's laughing? You said you had the urge. Guess you didn't watch any of the 8 Benghazi hearings or Hillary's 11 hours of testimony. Put the tin foil hat back on or take it off, whichever might bring you back to some semblance of reality.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,746
    CM189191 said:

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    my2hands said:

    JimmyV said:

    I don't remember any First Lady before this having such an impact as a speaker/surrogate. That's in part due to the direction of this campaign, but also Michelle Obama is just that good.

    and could be setting up her own run in 2024...
    Ha! Want to see the GOP really implode? Follow our first Black President, with a the first Female President, with the first Black Female President.
    Throw in legal same sex marriage, more states legalizing Marijuana, and Roe v Wade still the law of the land and you've got g.o.p. heads exploding.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    In the Dem circles who they talking about as next SCJ?
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Whomever it is I hope they never confirm.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    unsung said:

    Whomever it is I hope they never confirm.

    I just read a few things that are saying Loretta lynch, but with the Arkansas Bill tarmac talk it may be more difficult. It would give the appearance of impropriety, but the dems would could use the sex and race cards against detractors.
    That would be interesting to say the least.
  • JC29856 said:

    unsung said:

    Whomever it is I hope they never confirm.

    I just read a few things that are saying Loretta lynch, but with the Arkansas Bill tarmac talk it may be more difficult. It would give the appearance of impropriety, but the dems would could use the sex and race cards against detractors.
    That would be interesting to say the least.
    Sure. Sure you did. Please provide a synopsis of the Lourde's work. Public servant you seem to be. Throw in some bible quotes, we'll pray together.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    JC29856 said:

    unsung said:

    Whomever it is I hope they never confirm.

    I just read a few things that are saying Loretta lynch, but with the Arkansas Bill tarmac talk it may be more difficult. It would give the appearance of impropriety, but the dems would could use the sex and race cards against detractors.
    That would be interesting to say the least.
    Sure. Sure you did. Please provide a synopsis of the Lourde's work. Public servant you seem to be. Throw in some bible quotes, we'll pray together.
    I PM'd you my snapchat!
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627
    JC29856 said:

    In the Dem circles who they talking about as next SCJ?

    I dont' think I've heard any specific names being thrown about. But you bring up an interesting point. Most people thought that Garland and the lack of a hearing would be an issue this fall. We haven't even got to that. Shows you what a hole of an election this is.
  • pjalive21pjalive21 Posts: 2,818
    So anonymous has thrown their hat in the ring against Clinton...i look forward to the next few weeks...between Wikileaks and Anonymous i dont even know if Clinton is going to withstand both assaults
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    pjalive21 said:

    So anonymous has thrown their hat in the ring against Clinton...i look forward to the next few weeks...between Wikileaks and Anonymous i dont even know if Clinton is going to withstand both assaults

    Explain?
  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books Posts: 2,672
    mrussel1 said:

    JC29856 said:

    In the Dem circles who they talking about as next SCJ?

    I dont' think I've heard any specific names being thrown about. But you bring up an interesting point. Most people thought that Garland and the lack of a hearing would be an issue this fall. We haven't even got to that. Shows you what a hole of an election this is.
    Hey Matt, you should keep your boy on check... Seems like he's losing his religion... Haha
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627
    tonifig8 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    JC29856 said:

    In the Dem circles who they talking about as next SCJ?

    I dont' think I've heard any specific names being thrown about. But you bring up an interesting point. Most people thought that Garland and the lack of a hearing would be an issue this fall. We haven't even got to that. Shows you what a hole of an election this is.
    Hey Matt, you should keep your boy on check... Seems like he's losing his religion... Haha
    I don't understand.. which boy?
  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books Posts: 2,672
    mrussel1 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    JC29856 said:

    In the Dem circles who they talking about as next SCJ?

    I dont' think I've heard any specific names being thrown about. But you bring up an interesting point. Most people thought that Garland and the lack of a hearing would be an issue this fall. We haven't even got to that. Shows you what a hole of an election this is.
    Hey Matt, you should keep your boy on check... Seems like he's losing his religion... Haha
    I don't understand.. which boy?
    Wait for it.....
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627
    tonifig8 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    JC29856 said:

    In the Dem circles who they talking about as next SCJ?

    I dont' think I've heard any specific names being thrown about. But you bring up an interesting point. Most people thought that Garland and the lack of a hearing would be an issue this fall. We haven't even got to that. Shows you what a hole of an election this is.
    Hey Matt, you should keep your boy on check... Seems like he's losing his religion... Haha
    I don't understand.. which boy?
    Wait for it.....
    Do you mean the Podesta emails where they talk about interest groups starting to the contradict the Bishops in the Catholic church?
  • rssesqrssesq Posts: 3,299
    I wonder if Podesta would get upset if Catholics started discussing things like why are they still performing Metzitzah B'Peh.
    Believe me, YOU DONT WANNA KNOW! It's too early.

  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627
    rssesq said:

    I wonder if Podesta would get upset if Catholics started discussing things like why are they still performing Metzitzah B'Peh.
    Believe me, YOU DONT WANNA KNOW! It's too early.

    Fuck those grapes.
  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books Posts: 2,672
    You know what's missing on this Hillary thread? A positive post.

    I got one:
    Donald Trump is worse!
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627
    tonifig8 said:

    You know what's missing on this Hillary thread? A positive post.

    I got one:
    Donald Trump is worse!

    Clever. It's because we spend our time to reacting to negative and misleading posts that are rooted in the right wing echo chamber.
  • rssesqrssesq Posts: 3,299
    I had needy latino food for lunch, DELISH.
    How's dat.
    tonifig8 said:

    You know what's missing on this Hillary thread? A positive post.

    I got one:
    Donald Trump is worse!

  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,093
    tonifig8 said:

    You know what's missing on this Hillary thread? A positive post.

    I got one:
    Donald Trump is worse!

    It's a person that belongs in prison vs. a person that's totally unqualified. I can't vote for either. But I hope the criminal wins.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    JimmyV said:

    I don't remember any First Lady before this having such an impact as a speaker/surrogate. That's in part due to the direction of this campaign, but also Michelle Obama is just that good.

    What about Hillary Clinton? The fact you forgot about her is very telling.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627
    BS44325 said:

    JimmyV said:

    I don't remember any First Lady before this having such an impact as a speaker/surrogate. That's in part due to the direction of this campaign, but also Michelle Obama is just that good.

    What about Hillary Clinton? The fact you forgot about her is very telling.
    Not really. Michelle is certainly a more engaging speaker than HRC, but that doesn't mean she has a stronger grasp of the issues, foreign policy, etc. There's no denying the power of Michelle's words and how she delivers them.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,163
    BS44325 said:

    JimmyV said:

    I don't remember any First Lady before this having such an impact as a speaker/surrogate. That's in part due to the direction of this campaign, but also Michelle Obama is just that good.

    What about Hillary Clinton? The fact you forgot about her is very telling.
    Not really and I didn't forget her. Hillary is not an effective public speaker in my opinion and never has been. I also don't remember Hillary Clinton ever going to bat for Al Gore the way Michelle has for her. Maybe it happened but I don't remember it.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    unsung said:

    Don't forget the guns they were running through benghazi.

    Were they using the same planes they used to fly cocaine into Arkansas in the '70s and '80s?
    It's amazing how you blow this off. You are clearly a non-interventionist and the war in Libya followed by the gun-running was exactly that. Nobody is claiming these actions were illegal but it certainly was a decision that did not work out in the administrations favour. What people aren't happy with is the failure to account for the policy, to discuss why it took place and where it went wrong. There should be some transparency on this and for someone who is as mad about Iraq as you appear to be it is quite surprising how you simply don't care. Libya was a war of choice that might have even had some merit and there should be a real discussion of the policy. Your inability to be consistent on the issue shows a real lean towards partisanship over any real dispute with an interventionist foreign policy.
  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books Posts: 2,672
    rssesq said:

    I had needy latino food for lunch, DELISH.
    How's dat.

    tonifig8 said:

    You know what's missing on this Hillary thread? A positive post.

    I got one:
    Donald Trump is worse!


    I see what you did there...
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627
    BS44325 said:

    unsung said:

    Don't forget the guns they were running through benghazi.

    Were they using the same planes they used to fly cocaine into Arkansas in the '70s and '80s?
    It's amazing how you blow this off. You are clearly a non-interventionist and the war in Libya followed by the gun-running was exactly that. Nobody is claiming these actions were illegal but it certainly was a decision that did not work out in the administrations favour. What people aren't happy with is the failure to account for the policy, to discuss why it took place and where it went wrong. There should be some transparency on this and for someone who is as mad about Iraq as you appear to be it is quite surprising how you simply don't care. Libya was a war of choice that might have even had some merit and there should be a real discussion of the policy. Your inability to be consistent on the issue shows a real lean towards partisanship over any real dispute with an interventionist foreign policy.
    What would you have done in that situation? The rebels were pinned in Benghazi by the advancing Qhaddafi forces. France and England are pushing for intervention. The rebel's charismatic, pro democracy, western educated leader is in your office telling you about the plans for democracy... finally a western democracy not being forced down a Muslim throat, rather one being instituted by the people. What do you do? Let Qhaddafi slaughter the rebels or provide support?
    The outcome in Libya was terrible. There are many reasons to second guess it. But I don't think you can draw a correlation between Iraq and this engagement. One was completely our undertaking with our troops. The other was not.
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