“Right now I am petrified that Hillary is almost totally dependent on Republicans nominating [Donald] Trump,” Brent Budowsky, a political columnist and former political adviser, wrote in a March 2016 email to Podesta and Roy Spence, an ad maker for the campaign. “She has huge endemic political weaknesses that she would be wise to rectify. “Even a clown like Ted Cruz would be an even money bet to beat and this scares the hell of out me,” Budowsky added.
The correspondence reveals a campaign that has struggled all year to improve a flawed candidate. As far back as March, aides were keenly aware that she was resistant to the media, perhaps out of touch with regular Americans and unable to convey a clear message to voters.
Given what is learned from the emails leaked I can understand why people refer to cnn as Clinton news network.
It really is Clinton news network.
Once upon a time, journalists were supposed to be OBJECTIVE. They would get fired if they showed any personal bias. Because the media is now owned by six corporations, it is now expected that the journalists are subjective on behalf of the Corporation that owns it.
Which 6 corporations?
And can you please post believable, reliable, and verifiable links to back up your assertion?
Given what is learned from the emails leaked I can understand why people refer to cnn as Clinton news network.
It really is Clinton news network.
Once upon a time, journalists were supposed to be OBJECTIVE. They would get fired if they showed any personal bias. Because the media is now owned by six corporations, it is now expected that the journalists are subjective on behalf of the Corporation that owns it.
Which 6 corporations?
And can you please post believable, reliable, and verifiable links to back up your assertion?
Thanks
This is been posted multiple times in the last eight months.
I just want to make sure my point is clear on this. I agree with you on several points. The television media has been consolidated to the major corps as you say. Old style print media has been consolidated too, not as narrowly but the days of newspapers all being indy are over. Fortunately there are many alternative sources today to fit anyone's preference, style or bias. The common person, however, is getting their info from these big media sources. This means most people get their news from these six sources as you rightly point out.. But I'm not sure how different that is from the 60's into the 90's. During those times, people read their local paper and watched one of the two 30 minute nightly newscasts. So that was a pretty limited source as well.
My point or counter to your point is that, although your statement about ownership is correct, I take issue with the statement that they were objective. With the exception of PBS historically (many say they are left wing shills), the media is profit motivated and have always served the profit motives of their most senior ownership. That's not new or different. Today that's a muti-national corp, in the past it was a smaller corp or individual owner, but still with the same purpose.
Given what is learned from the emails leaked I can understand why people refer to cnn as Clinton news network.
It really is Clinton news network.
Once upon a time, journalists were supposed to be OBJECTIVE. They would get fired if they showed any personal bias. Because the media is owned by six corporations, it is expected that the journalists are subjective on behalf of the Corporation that owns it.
This is a fictional time. Review your history... Yellow journalism, Hearst, Pulitzer, Ben Franklin for chrissake. It is a myth. All these links that you post from alt news, etc., do you consider them objective?
BBC news seems objective. They actually report global news!
Any good international source is more reliable than US news. Less bias, and you hear different information that you won't hear here merely because it's from a different, global perspective
For sure. I cancelled my subscription to all US news networks a couple of years ago. Best decision ever.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Given what is learned from the emails leaked I can understand why people refer to cnn as Clinton news network.
It really is Clinton news network.
Once upon a time, journalists were supposed to be OBJECTIVE. They would get fired if they showed any personal bias. Because the media is owned by six corporations, it is expected that the journalists are subjective on behalf of the Corporation that owns it.
This is a fictional time. Review your history... Yellow journalism, Hearst, Pulitzer, Ben Franklin for chrissake. It is a myth. All these links that you post from alt news, etc., do you consider them objective?
BBC news seems objective. They actually report global news!
Any good international source is more reliable than US news. Less bias, and you hear different information that you won't hear here merely because it's from a different, global perspective
For sure. I cancelled my subscription to all US news networks a couple of years ago. Best decision ever.
there is a lot of activity in your take the guns away from Americans thread Gern, as well as your I'm with her, Hillary thread. say hello to Trotsky and the boyz for me will ya. lmao
there is a lot of activity in your take the guns away from Americans thread Gern, as well as your I'm with her, Hillary thread. say hello to Trotsky and the boyz for me will ya. lmao
What does that have to do with anything? I was asking about your MSNBC link.
MSNBC reports the news. They don't filter anti-Hillary shit.
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points? I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign? Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat. I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points? I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign? Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat. I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
Uh....it's the GOP smear machine. I give them credit for one thing...they know how to fool ignorant people.
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points? I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign? Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat. I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
Uh....it's the GOP smear machine. I give them credit for one thing...they know how to fool ignorant people.
Absolutely. But don't forget about the lapse of reason (permanent or otherwise) of those who still support Trump. They are convinced America is slipping into some kind of alternate reality or something, where it's the worst place in world and the government threatens to uproot all that they own, all of their freedoms... or whatever the fuck all these loonies think, lol, AND believe that Trump is actually cares about them. Plus they don't care if someone is a misogynist pig who sexually harasses women and wants to bone his daughter.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
He forgot about Vince Foster, Bill Clinton fostering a child from a prostitute, etc.
I don't remember anyone ever giving a shit about advocacy groups and the Catholic church. Who didn't know Saudi was funding ISIS? How is that a Clinton conspiracy?
Again, this is right wing masturbation shit. The real world doesn't care.
I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points? I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign? Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat. I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
Uh....it's the GOP smear machine. I give them credit for one thing...they know how to fool ignorant people.
LOL!!!! You sure do kick that word "Ignorant" around a whole lot.
I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points? I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign? Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat. I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
Did you read the WaPo editorial endorsement of Hillary?
I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points? I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign? Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat. I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
What is close to you? The country is polarized. If she wins by 6 points, that's a landslide. If she gets 330 EV, that's a landslide, I would say.
with these 2 ass clowns runnin for Prez Wake me up when November ends.
Elon Musk can send you to Mars. It takes three years to get there. Six round trip and you'll be back in time for the dust to have settled from the revolution.
I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points? I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign? Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat. I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
Did you read the WaPo editorial endorsement of Hillary?
No, I stay away from endorsements. I never really understood why they mattered, whether from a publication or a person. I liken endorsements to cheerleaders, they don't matter and shouldn't.
I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points? I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign? Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat. I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
Did you read the WaPo editorial endorsement of Hillary?
No, I stay away from endorsements. I never really understood why they mattered, whether from a publication or a person.
Well, kind of like how I feel about internal campaign emails but I've been reading them anyway. I'm not asking because I expect you to change your mind but I think it gives a good description of Hillary's flaws. But ignorance is bliss I guess.
I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points? I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign? Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat. I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
Did you read the WaPo editorial endorsement of Hillary?
No, I stay away from endorsements. I never really understood why they mattered, whether from a publication or a person.
Well, kind of like how I feel about internal campaign emails but I've been reading them anyway. I'm not asking because I expect you to change your mind but I think it gives a good description of Hillary's flaws. But ignorance is bliss I guess.
If you have a good feel for the inter workings of campaigns then no need to read the campaign emails.
I love how people are surprised she planned on running earlier than it was announced.. she knew she was running in 2008 after losing the primary to Barack... I think that is pretty obvious to anybody with a pulse
I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points? I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign? Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat. I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
What is close to you? The country is polarized. If she wins by 6 points, that's a landslide. If she gets 330 EV, that's a landslide, I would say.
6 is fair, 400 ev and 4M popular is what I expect.
I also expect the republicans to launch impeachment proceedings shortly after inauguration. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the first day possible, wherever that would be.
I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points? I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign? Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat. I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
What is close to you? The country is polarized. If she wins by 6 points, that's a landslide. If she gets 330 EV, that's a landslide, I would say.
6 is fair, 400 ev and 4M popular is what I expect.
I also expect the republicans to launch impeachment proceedings shortly after inauguration. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the first day possible, wherever that would be.
I wouldn't be least bit surprised if electoral college went against vote! That would make for a real shit show.
I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points? I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign? Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat. I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
What is close to you? The country is polarized. If she wins by 6 points, that's a landslide. If she gets 330 EV, that's a landslide, I would say.
6 is fair, 400 ev and 4M popular is what I expect.
I also expect the republicans to launch impeachment proceedings shortly after inauguration. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the first day possible, wherever that would be.
I wouldn't be least bit surprised if electoral college went against vote! That would make for a real shit show.
That's not going to happen.
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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“Right now I am petrified that Hillary is almost totally dependent on Republicans nominating [Donald] Trump,” Brent Budowsky, a political columnist and former political adviser, wrote in a March 2016 email to Podesta and Roy Spence, an ad maker for the campaign. “She has huge endemic political weaknesses that she would be wise to rectify.
“Even a clown like Ted Cruz would be an even money bet to beat and this scares the hell of out me,” Budowsky added.
and yes that is msn and not BREITBART
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
say hello to Trotsky and the boyz for me will ya. lmao
"I had heard that you were upset that I encouraged a call between WJC and Richardson to bury the hatchet,
not withstanding the fact that [Richardson] can be a dick, it was worth getting him in a good place."
"He's on Meet the Press on Sunday. Probably worth a quick call to ask him to stay stout and publicly endorse, but if it's too galling, don't bother."
Democrats Headquarters: "We're going to need more taco trucks. Podesta fucked up".
MSNBC reports the news. They don't filter anti-Hillary shit.
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign?
Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat.
I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/12/hannity_wikileaks_proves_everything_that_conspiracy_theorists_said_was_true.html
http://amesbrosshop.com/collections/2016-presidential-election-tees/products/trump-tee-trump-tshirt?variant=32291996295
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/wikileaks-emails-reveal-clinton-campaigns-strategy-to-woo-needy-latinos/ar-AAiTHOh?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
Wake me up when November ends.
I don't remember anyone ever giving a shit about advocacy groups and the Catholic church.
Who didn't know Saudi was funding ISIS? How is that a Clinton conspiracy?
Again, this is right wing masturbation shit. The real world doesn't care.
You sure do kick that word "Ignorant" around a whole lot.
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I liken endorsements to cheerleaders, they don't matter and shouldn't.
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I also expect the republicans to launch impeachment proceedings shortly after inauguration. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the first day possible, wherever that would be.
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana