I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points? I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign? Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat. I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
What is close to you? The country is polarized. If she wins by 6 points, that's a landslide. If she gets 330 EV, that's a landslide, I would say.
6 is fair, 400 ev and 4M popular is what I expect.
I also expect the republicans to launch impeachment proceedings shortly after inauguration. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the first day possible, wherever that would be.
I wouldn't be least bit surprised if electoral college went against vote! That would make for a real shit show.
What do you mean? Where the electors refuse to cast for Hillary? No way. Won't happen.
No way on 400 either. I'd have to do the math, but you would have to flip some really, really red states to make that happen.
I love how people are surprised she planned on running earlier than it was announced.. she knew she was running in 2008 after losing the primary to Barack... I think that is pretty obvious to anybody with a pulse
call me when there is something juicy
She's been running or preparing to run since at least Bill's second term when she launched her NY Senate bid. Likely longer than that.
He forgot about Vince Foster, Bill Clinton fostering a child from a prostitute, etc.
I don't remember anyone ever giving a shit about advocacy groups and the Catholic church. Who didn't know Saudi was funding ISIS? How is that a Clinton conspiracy?
Again, this is right wing masturbation shit. The real world doesn't care.
I'll say this, the real world in this country I would guess doesn't have the time energy or resources to care, and I don't think that's by accident. One of the things that I wish the real world would realize from the leaks is the number of people, amount of time and resources that go into a presidential run. A real worlder would ask what do this people do to have the time energy resources and money to help in this endeavor, do they have jobs, family etc. If they asked the question maybe they would realized that it is they that provide the time resources and money.
I love how people are surprised she planned on running earlier than it was announced.. she knew she was running in 2008 after losing the primary to Barack... I think that is pretty obvious to anybody with a pulse
call me when there is something juicy
She's been running or preparing to run since at least Bill's second term when she launched her NY Senate bid. Likely longer than that.
exactly... I was speaking more of running again once Obama was out of office...
the real issue she will face is holding the white hosue in 4 years since 16 years of either party in the white house seems impossible with todays ridiculous political environment... but the GOP is pathetic and only caters to older angry white voters and the elite so I cant see how they win the white house ever again unless they completely pivot on most of their platform
I love how people are surprised she planned on running earlier than it was announced.. she knew she was running in 2008 after losing the primary to Barack... I think that is pretty obvious to anybody with a pulse
call me when there is something juicy
She's been running or preparing to run since at least Bill's second term when she launched her NY Senate bid. Likely longer than that.
exactly... I was speaking more of running again once Obama was out of office...
the real issue she will face is holding the white hosue in 4 years since 16 years of either party in the white house seems impossible with todays ridiculous political environment... but the GOP is pathetic and only caters to older angry white voters and the elite so I cant see how they win the white house ever again unless they completely pivot on most of their platform
I wonder if Trump would run again. What's stopping him?
I love how people are surprised she planned on running earlier than it was announced.. she knew she was running in 2008 after losing the primary to Barack... I think that is pretty obvious to anybody with a pulse
call me when there is something juicy
She's been running or preparing to run since at least Bill's second term when she launched her NY Senate bid. Likely longer than that.
exactly... I was speaking more of running again once Obama was out of office...
the real issue she will face is holding the white hosue in 4 years since 16 years of either party in the white house seems impossible with todays ridiculous political environment... but the GOP is pathetic and only caters to older angry white voters and the elite so I cant see how they win the white house ever again unless they completely pivot on most of their platform
I wonder if Trump would run again. What's stopping him?
I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points? I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign? Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat. I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
Did you read the WaPo editorial endorsement of Hillary?
No, I stay away from endorsements. I never really understood why they mattered, whether from a publication or a person.
Well, kind of like how I feel about internal campaign emails but I've been reading them anyway. I'm not asking because I expect you to change your mind but I think it gives a good description of Hillary's flaws. But ignorance is bliss I guess.
If you have a good feel for the inter workings of campaigns then no need to read the campaign emails.
Wow, criticized if I read them, criticized if I don't. I do have a pretty good sense of how political campaigns work but my education and experience wouldn't prevent me from considering other sources of information. Unfortunately, you don't share the same view. Ignorance is indeed bliss.
I don't remember any First Lady before this having such an impact as a speaker/surrogate. That's in part due to the direction of this campaign, but also Michelle Obama is just that good.
I don't remember any First Lady before this having such an impact as a speaker/surrogate. That's in part due to the direction of this campaign, but also Michelle Obama is just that good.
I don't remember any First Lady before this having such an impact as a speaker/surrogate. That's in part due to the direction of this campaign, but also Michelle Obama is just that good.
and could be setting up her own run in 2024...
Ha! Want to see the GOP really implode? Follow our first Black President, with a the first Female President, with the first Black Female President.
I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points? I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign? Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat. I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
Did you read the WaPo editorial endorsement of Hillary?
No, I stay away from endorsements. I never really understood why they mattered, whether from a publication or a person.
Well, kind of like how I feel about internal campaign emails but I've been reading them anyway. I'm not asking because I expect you to change your mind but I think it gives a good description of Hillary's flaws. But ignorance is bliss I guess.
If you have a good feel for the inter workings of campaigns then no need to read the campaign emails.
Wow, criticized if I read them, criticized if I don't. I do have a pretty good sense of how political campaigns work but my education and experience wouldn't prevent me from considering other sources of information. Unfortunately, you don't share the same view. Ignorance is indeed bliss.
If you think that was criticizing you should double check the definition.
I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points? I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign? Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat. I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
What is close to you? The country is polarized. If she wins by 6 points, that's a landslide. If she gets 330 EV, that's a landslide, I would say.
6 is fair, 400 ev and 4M popular is what I expect.
I also expect the republicans to launch impeachment proceedings shortly after inauguration. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the first day possible, wherever that would be.
I wouldn't be least bit surprised if electoral college went against vote! That would make for a real shit show.
What do you mean? Where the electors refuse to cast for Hillary? No way. Won't happen.
No way on 400 either. I'd have to do the math, but you would have to flip some really, really red states to make that happen.
The blood in your eyes is effecting your comprehension and/or vision, do not operate heavy equipment or operate a motor vehicle.
I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points? I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign? Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat. I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
What is close to you? The country is polarized. If she wins by 6 points, that's a landslide. If she gets 330 EV, that's a landslide, I would say.
6 is fair, 400 ev and 4M popular is what I expect.
I also expect the republicans to launch impeachment proceedings shortly after inauguration. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the first day possible, wherever that would be.
I wouldn't be least bit surprised if electoral college went against vote! That would make for a real shit show.
That's not going to happen.
Warning: The blood in your eyes is effecting your comprehension and/or vision, do not operate heavy equipment or operate a motor vehicle.
I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points? I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign? Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat. I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
Did you read the WaPo editorial endorsement of Hillary?
No, I stay away from endorsements. I never really understood why they mattered, whether from a publication or a person.
Well, kind of like how I feel about internal campaign emails but I've been reading them anyway. I'm not asking because I expect you to change your mind but I think it gives a good description of Hillary's flaws. But ignorance is bliss I guess.
If you have a good feel for the inter workings of campaigns then no need to read the campaign emails.
Wow, criticized if I read them, criticized if I don't. I do have a pretty good sense of how political campaigns work but my education and experience wouldn't prevent me from considering other sources of information. Unfortunately, you don't share the same view. Ignorance is indeed bliss.
If you think that was criticizing you should double check the definition.
So, all of those Wiki emails you're posting are really all about increasing your post count? You made an assumption about me, see the bolded part, and followed it with a judgment. How is that not critical? What if I had no knowledge of inter workings of campaigns or an exceptional knowledge or some level of knowledge in between? Why would you suggest that I not read the emails or that there was no need for me to do so?
I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points? I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign? Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat. I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
Did you read the WaPo editorial endorsement of Hillary?
No, I stay away from endorsements. I never really understood why they mattered, whether from a publication or a person.
Well, kind of like how I feel about internal campaign emails but I've been reading them anyway. I'm not asking because I expect you to change your mind but I think it gives a good description of Hillary's flaws. But ignorance is bliss I guess.
If you have a good feel for the inter workings of campaigns then no need to read the campaign emails.
Wow, criticized if I read them, criticized if I don't. I do have a pretty good sense of how political campaigns work but my education and experience wouldn't prevent me from considering other sources of information. Unfortunately, you don't share the same view. Ignorance is indeed bliss.
If you think that was criticizing you should double check the definition.
So, all of those Wiki emails you're posting are really all about increasing your post count? You made an assumption about me, see the bolded part, and followed it with a judgment. How is that not critical? What if I had no knowledge of inter workings of campaigns or an exceptional knowledge or some level of knowledge in between? Why would you suggest that I not read the emails or that there was no need for me to do so?
Your right but you mind showing me the bold and the assumption made? It could be my phone acting up. Appreciate the discussion?
You guys aren't changing each other's mind... your efforts may be better used elsewhere?
Help me then, I'll even throw in where I try to change anyone's mind, just don't know where I bolded and made assumptions? Better yet maybe tell me the jokes on JC.
I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points? I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign? Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat. I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
Did you read the WaPo editorial endorsement of Hillary?
No, I stay away from endorsements. I never really understood why they mattered, whether from a publication or a person.
Well, kind of like how I feel about internal campaign emails but I've been reading them anyway. I'm not asking because I expect you to change your mind but I think it gives a good description of Hillary's flaws. But ignorance is bliss I guess.
If you have a good feel for the inter workings of campaigns then no need to read the campaign emails.
Wow, criticized if I read them, criticized if I don't. I do have a pretty good sense of how political campaigns work but my education and experience wouldn't prevent me from considering other sources of information. Unfortunately, you don't share the same view. Ignorance is indeed bliss.
If you think that was criticizing you should double check the definition.
So, all of those Wiki emails you're posting are really all about increasing your post count? You made an assumption about me, see the bolded part, and followed it with a judgment. How is that not critical? What if I had no knowledge of inter workings of campaigns or an exceptional knowledge or some level of knowledge in between? Why would you suggest that I not read the emails or that there was no need for me to do so?
Your right but you mind showing me the bold and the assumption made? It could be my phone acting up. Appreciate the discussion?
I notice it too now. The quote feature is acting up it seems. On my desk top i had to click on "show previous quotes" to see that I quoted you and bolded it. On my phone I don't see anything.
Anyway, I find reading the emails fascinating but not bothersome while wondering why you'd criticize me or dismiss my reading of them? I'm puzzled? And I know I'm not changing any minds nor will mine be changed. It's all good political debate theater.
I'm starting to wonder why from all things I know and am learning about Hilliary and all the things put into motion years ago for her to win the presidency (which she will as I've stated numerous times) why she isn't up 50 points? I kinda wondered the same thing about Gore 2000. Which of the 2 ran a more disastrous campaign? Shouldn't Hilliary landslide trump (like Gore should have landslided bush)? She has the unprecedented support of even the staunchest republicans. If her margin of victory or the popular vote margin is anywhere near close, then you have to assume Trump is probably the only candidate she would have beat. I wouldn't want to be a down ticket democrat this year, that's for sure.
Did you read the WaPo editorial endorsement of Hillary?
No, I stay away from endorsements. I never really understood why they mattered, whether from a publication or a person.
Well, kind of like how I feel about internal campaign emails but I've been reading them anyway. I'm not asking because I expect you to change your mind but I think it gives a good description of Hillary's flaws. But ignorance is bliss I guess.
If you have a good feel for the inter workings of campaigns then no need to read the campaign emails.
Wow, criticized if I read them, criticized if I don't. I do have a pretty good sense of how political campaigns work but my education and experience wouldn't prevent me from considering other sources of information. Unfortunately, you don't share the same view. Ignorance is indeed bliss.
If you think that was criticizing you should double check the definition.
So, all of those Wiki emails you're posting are really all about increasing your post count? You made an assumption about me, see the bolded part, and followed it with a judgment. How is that not critical? What if I had no knowledge of inter workings of campaigns or an exceptional knowledge or some level of knowledge in between? Why would you suggest that I not read the emails or that there was no need for me to do so?
Your right but you mind showing me the bold and the assumption made? It could be my phone acting up. Appreciate the discussion?
I notice it too now. The quote feature is acting up it seems. On my desk top i had to click on "show previous quotes" to see that I quoted you and bolded it. On my phone I don't see anything.
Anyway, I find reading the emails fascinating but not bothersome while wondering why you'd criticize me or dismiss my reading of them? I'm puzzled? And I know I'm not changing any minds nor will mine be changed. It's all good political debate theater.
I don't try to change anyone's mind and I don't tell others what to post or what not to. I created a separate thread for the Podesta emails, I could have just posted in the Hilliary thread to be a dick, I didn't. If you don't give a fuck about the leaks then don't click (this is not at you) the thread. It's a information thread, I don't care if nobody reads them or if 1000s do.
I don't remember any First Lady before this having such an impact as a speaker/surrogate. That's in part due to the direction of this campaign, but also Michelle Obama is just that good.
and could be setting up her own run in 2024...
Ha! Want to see the GOP really implode? Follow our first Black President, with a the first Female President, with the first Black Female President.
That right would be some funny stuff. Lol, I wonder what the odds would be for that all to come true. Their worst nightmare.
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I don't remember any First Lady before this having such an impact as a speaker/surrogate. That's in part due to the direction of this campaign, but also Michelle Obama is just that good.
and could be setting up her own run in 2024...
Ha! Want to see the GOP really implode? Follow our first Black President, with a the first Female President, with the first Black Female President.
That right would be some funny stuff. Lol, I wonder what the odds would be for that all to come true. Their worst nightmare.
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I'm not so sure about that give there hold on congress Senate and governorships. Plus I'm betting they move to impeach.
He forgot about Vince Foster, Bill Clinton fostering a child from a prostitute, etc.
I don't remember anyone ever giving a shit about advocacy groups and the Catholic church. Who didn't know Saudi was funding ISIS? How is that a Clinton conspiracy?
Again, this is right wing masturbation shit. The real world doesn't care.
Actually it does. The US cares about Kim K and who is putting it to her this week.
The Clinton Foundation has something in common with ISIS, both funded by the Saudis.
He forgot about Vince Foster, Bill Clinton fostering a child from a prostitute, etc.
I don't remember anyone ever giving a shit about advocacy groups and the Catholic church. Who didn't know Saudi was funding ISIS? How is that a Clinton conspiracy?
Again, this is right wing masturbation shit. The real world doesn't care.
Actually it does. The US cares about Kim K and who is putting it to her this week.
The Clinton Foundation has something in common with ISIS, both funded by the Saudis.
I was under the impression we had laws about aiding add abetting terrorists?
A dim wit with 4th grade reading level skypes with someone from Afghanistan gets his door kicked in harshly interrogated and spends months in jail while the US government sends $10M to isis thru Saudis.
He forgot about Vince Foster, Bill Clinton fostering a child from a prostitute, etc.
I don't remember anyone ever giving a shit about advocacy groups and the Catholic church. Who didn't know Saudi was funding ISIS? How is that a Clinton conspiracy?
Again, this is right wing masturbation shit. The real world doesn't care.
Actually it does. The US cares about Kim K and who is putting it to her this week.
The Clinton Foundation has something in common with ISIS, both funded by the Saudis.
It's Nice that the Saudis are paying for child vaccines around the world. At least it's going to good use.
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No way on 400 either. I'd have to do the math, but you would have to flip some really, really red states to make that happen.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
If they asked the question maybe they would realized that it is they that provide the time resources and money.
the real issue she will face is holding the white hosue in 4 years since 16 years of either party in the white house seems impossible with todays ridiculous political environment... but the GOP is pathetic and only caters to older angry white voters and the elite so I cant see how they win the white house ever again unless they completely pivot on most of their platform
Here it is.
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but also 26 days left for clinton to slip up. that would be one epic fuckup, wouldn't it?
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Anyway, I find reading the emails fascinating but not bothersome while wondering why you'd criticize me or dismiss my reading of them? I'm puzzled? And I know I'm not changing any minds nor will mine be changed. It's all good political debate theater.
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*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
The Clinton Foundation has something in common with ISIS, both funded by the Saudis.
A dim wit with 4th grade reading level skypes with someone from Afghanistan gets his door kicked in harshly interrogated and spends months in jail while the US government sends $10M to isis thru Saudis.