Boy o Boy. What a defense. lol. I can hear Harold Ford, Sam Stein and Eugene Robinson on Mornin Joe extolling how "It's nothing, she faints all the time, what's the big deal people."
Why didn't her secret service bring her to the hospital like normal people? To go "home" to her daughter's just makes it all look the more secretive.
Because she probably faints like this often and they know it isn't life threatening and what to do.
Assuming when we don't know doesn't exactly help. But thanks.
I'm not defending her, but am saying she probably faints frequently (like Bill said - link below) so they know it isn't something they need to go to ER for afterwords. You might go to the ER the first time you have really bad heart burn, but not if it happens again every month or so.
he said "...frequently, well not frequently, rarely...."..
what is the fucking issue?
Because if I fainted 2-3 times in my life my first word to describe would not be "frequently". He caught himself and corrected. Hilary and Bill are attorneys who are used to twisting the truth and the way they worded their responses in the interviews yesterday were about as vague as you could get which provides them cover when eventually the truth comes. Anyway, my point stands that they would have taken her to an ER if fainting wasn't something that hadn't happened frequently before.
he said "...frequently, well not frequently, rarely...."..
what is the fucking issue?
Because if I fainted 2-3 times in my life my first word to describe would not be "frequently". He caught himself and corrected. Hilary and Bill are attorneys who are used to twisting the truth and the way they worded their responses in the interviews yesterday were about as vague as you could get which provides them cover when eventually the truth comes. Anyway, my point stands that they would have taken her to an ER if fainting wasn't something that hadn't happened frequently before.
right...he caught himself and corrected. He said "frequently" by mistake and corrected
Why would they let her walk around freely an hour after fainting if they were worried at all?
Do you people forget that she has had numerous campaign appearances? Numerous TV appearances? Several democratic debates?
How many times did she faint during those?
Give it a rest.
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During a rally in Philadelphia for Hillary Clinton on Tuesday, President Obama said it's impossible to compare Clinton to Donald Trump in a speech that was critical of media coverage of the presidential election.
"I’m not running this time, but I sure do get frustrated with the way this campaign is covered," he said. "You don't grade the presidency on a curve. This is serious business."
He then argued that Clinton and Trump are on completely different levels when it comes to transparency, their charitable organizations, and their preparedness to serve as president.
"You want to debate transparency? You’ve one one candidate in this debate who's released decades worth of her tax returns. The other candidate is the first in decades who refuses to release any at all," he said.
"You want to debate foundations and charities? One candidate's family foundation has saved countless lives around the world. The other candidate's foundation took money other people gave to his charity and then bought a six-foot-tall painting of himself," Obama continued.
And when it comes to who is fit to serve as president, Obama said that Clinton "has more qualifications than pretty much anyone who's ever run for this job" while Trump "isn't fit in any way, shape, or form to represent this country abroad and be its commander-in-chief."
He then lamented that Trump's outlandish statements have become normal, appearing to reference NBC anchor Matt Lauer's failure to challenge Trump's claims last week that he has always opposed the Iraq War.
"Donald Trump says stuff everyday that used to be considered as disqualifying for being president. And yet because he says it over and over and over again the press just gives up," he said.
"'I was opposed to the war in Iraq,'" Obama said, quoting Trump. "Well, actually, he wasn't. But they just accept it."
"The bottom line is that we can not afford suddenly to treat this like a reality show. We can't afford to act as if there's some equivalence here," the President added.
Earlier in the speech, Obama contrasted Clinton's experience as secretary of state with Trump's record in business.
"What you're coming to realize when you're in this job is anybody can pop off, everybody can fire off a tweet, everybody's a critic, but that doesn't mean you know what it's like to manage a global crisis. You don't know what it's like to send a group of young people to war knowing some won't come back," he said. "But the closest you can come to understanding what it's like is to be where Hillary's been."
He then turned to Trump.
"He calls himself a business guy. But America's got a lot of businessmen and women who succeeded without hiding their tax returns or leaving a trail of lawsuits or workers who didn't get paid, people feeling like they got cheated," Obama said. "This guy who spent 70 years on this earth showing no concern for working people. This guy’s suddenly going to be your champion?"
And after noting that Clinton has "worked with our intelligence teams and our diplomats and our military," he knocked Trump for his praise of Russian President Vladimir Putin.
"And then you've got the Donald, who just last week went on Russian state television to talk down our military and to curry favor with Vladimir Putin," Obama said.
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I've been becoming more and more unhappy with the way the media are covering the campaigns. On one show, they even openly talked and laughed about how it was in media's interest to not call the election too soon even if it was pretty much already decided. I think that meant the projected electoral vote count. I seriously just want them to report facts/news and not stir the pot for either side. Oh for the days past when news programs and actual journalists just reported the news.
Queue the faux outrage. He skipped the Benghazi hearings as well. And he's still alive! And he also exercised his constitutional rights as well. You remember those, right?
She collapses/faints/loses balance and doesn't see a doctor until Chappaqua according to Mook. Based on her medical history even if it was overheating secondary to bacterial pneumonia she should have seen someone right away. I was under the assumption that she must have seen a doctor at Chelsea's but apparently this is not so. This is absolute malpractice by her staff and the secret service who should have insisted that she receive medical care immediately. You don't take chances with this shit because even if the odds are remote in a 69 year old this could have been lethal.
Only doctors are subject to malpractice charges. Hillary is in charge of her own body. The Secret Service or her staff can't force her to see a doctor. I would be shocked if it wasn't suggested to her. She likely refused... which isn't surprising, given her circumstances. Dumb, but not surprising. A lot if not most POTUS candidates would probably act the same way. They are basically all obsessed with the campaign and will usually fight like dogs to prevent anything getting in the way of their goal.
I am not talking about the legal definition of malpractice I am talking about doing what is right. If this is your loved one...your mother...it doesn't matter what their demand is. Based on her medical history you get her to a doctor right away. You don't bring her back to an apartment to chill and then have her walkout on her own. A massive gamble was taken with her life right there even though the risk of a further adverse event was low. If she is President and the same thing happens everybody would insist upon this. It honestly seems like the people who support her the most actually care for her the least. Her care was not handled correctly. End of story.
Yeah she must be close to death by now no , really people what do you want from this woman to do , every time she farts should she tells us what she had for breakfast , lunch & dinner ..
During a rally in Philadelphia for Hillary Clinton on Tuesday, President Obama said it's impossible to compare Clinton to Donald Trump in a speech that was critical of media coverage of the presidential election.
"I’m not running this time, but I sure do get frustrated with the way this campaign is covered," he said. "You don't grade the presidency on a curve. This is serious business."
He then argued that Clinton and Trump are on completely different levels when it comes to transparency, their charitable organizations, and their preparedness to serve as president.
"You want to debate transparency? You’ve one one candidate in this debate who's released decades worth of her tax returns. The other candidate is the first in decades who refuses to release any at all," he said.
"You want to debate foundations and charities? One candidate's family foundation has saved countless lives around the world. The other candidate's foundation took money other people gave to his charity and then bought a six-foot-tall painting of himself," Obama continued.
And when it comes to who is fit to serve as president, Obama said that Clinton "has more qualifications than pretty much anyone who's ever run for this job" while Trump "isn't fit in any way, shape, or form to represent this country abroad and be its commander-in-chief."
He then lamented that Trump's outlandish statements have become normal, appearing to reference NBC anchor Matt Lauer's failure to challenge Trump's claims last week that he has always opposed the Iraq War.
"Donald Trump says stuff everyday that used to be considered as disqualifying for being president. And yet because he says it over and over and over again the press just gives up," he said.
"'I was opposed to the war in Iraq,'" Obama said, quoting Trump. "Well, actually, he wasn't. But they just accept it."
"The bottom line is that we can not afford suddenly to treat this like a reality show. We can't afford to act as if there's some equivalence here," the President added.
Earlier in the speech, Obama contrasted Clinton's experience as secretary of state with Trump's record in business.
"What you're coming to realize when you're in this job is anybody can pop off, everybody can fire off a tweet, everybody's a critic, but that doesn't mean you know what it's like to manage a global crisis. You don't know what it's like to send a group of young people to war knowing some won't come back," he said. "But the closest you can come to understanding what it's like is to be where Hillary's been."
He then turned to Trump.
"He calls himself a business guy. But America's got a lot of businessmen and women who succeeded without hiding their tax returns or leaving a trail of lawsuits or workers who didn't get paid, people feeling like they got cheated," Obama said. "This guy who spent 70 years on this earth showing no concern for working people. This guy’s suddenly going to be your champion?"
And after noting that Clinton has "worked with our intelligence teams and our diplomats and our military," he knocked Trump for his praise of Russian President Vladimir Putin.
"And then you've got the Donald, who just last week went on Russian state television to talk down our military and to curry favor with Vladimir Putin," Obama said.
This is in response to the 1st paragraph. My spouse was flipping the channels between CNN and MSNBC watching this Obama speech (I don't watch tv not was I home). On these 2 channels, they had Trump's speech about whatever in the corner of the screen. For shits and giggles, turns to FOXNews, and they are showing only Trump and his whatever speech.
The media is basically only interested in Trump. But you know what? Nothing has changed since the media ignored Bernie Sanders and his massive grassroots movement w/ millions of supporters, yet they not once showed photos of any of his massive rallies. Hillary supporters are only now questioning the media, since it is now Hillary being marginalized by the media. It's really nothing new.
Why didn't her secret service bring her to the hospital like normal people? To go "home" to her daughter's just makes it all look the more secretive.
She may have begun to recover after getting into an air conditioned environment. Her doctor did see her that day, pretty standard. There is a copy of a letter of her last physical (2015) including lab results here, for the medical professionals in the crowd. Her vital signs are within normal limits, normal EKG, and lab testing. Total cholesterol 195, HDL 64, LDL 118, triglycerides 69. Due to family history she had a thorough cardiac exam including a carotid ultrasound. All normal. heavy.com/news/2016/09/lisa-bardack-hillary-clinton-physician-doctor-bio-who-is-medical-degree-health-record-statement-caremount-medical/
I know I wouldn't go to the hospital if I were feeling woozy from overexertion while dealing with pneumonia or the flu or whatever. That was clearly not an ER situation. She just needed a lie-down. Moving on..... Um.... I actually forget anything else about her. There is just this fog of medical hoopla and email blahblahs. I guess the right wing media's plan is working, lol.
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Why would they let her walk around freely an hour after fainting if they were worried at all?
Do you people forget that she has had numerous campaign appearances? Numerous TV appearances? Several democratic debates?
How many times did she faint during those?
Give it a rest.
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Hillary farts?
The media is basically only interested in Trump. But you know what? Nothing has changed since the media ignored Bernie Sanders and his massive grassroots movement w/ millions of supporters, yet they not once showed photos of any of his massive rallies. Hillary supporters are only now questioning the media, since it is now Hillary being marginalized by the media. It's really nothing new.
Moving on..... Um.... I actually forget anything else about her. There is just this fog of medical hoopla and email blahblahs. I guess the right wing media's plan is working, lol.