Hillary won more votes for President

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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    brianlux said:

    Every time log in here there are 60 posts to the Trump thread to 3 posts here on the Hillary thread. Looks like AMT is going Trump crazy. Strange Days!

    This is the most astute observation on these boards to date.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Cliffy6745 said:

    Jearlpam0925 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Assume we're getting the VP pick today or tomorrow?

    Seems like Kaine's going to be the safe pick.

    But, I'll say, with Trump doubling down on all the crazy - wouldn't going the "safe" route of just showing how crazy Trump is at the DNC stand a chance of not working. I feel like going balls to the wall and bringing Warren on might bring in a lot of people voting for Stein and the such.

    But, as much as I think like this, I still come back around to how misogynistic this country is...
    Ah, yeah, looks like she'll likely be announcing him this afternoon. I think safe is fine...I think

    Would really like Warren, but yeah, I'd be a little worried about that. I do think it would help the Sanders/Stein people, to an extent, but it would be a complete side show with that lunatic. And yeah, I am not sure folks would be down with a 2 woman ticket, as sad as that is.
    Warren's done because of the plagiarism issue.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,673
    brianlux said:

    mrussel1 said:

    brianlux said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Polls are going to bounce around and they will be close. The country is too polarized. What's most important is ground game. Get out the vote operations are critical. I don't know how wide the gap is between the two campaigns, but all indications is WIDE.

    Who is ahead?

    No wait, let me guess... :lol:
    The only poll I have seen trump ahead is Rasmussen. He has had trump ahead for weeks and was the least accurate in 2012. We should expect a bounce in the convention. Both sides.
    I still can't imagine Trump getting close. It's gonna be a sleepy election. If I'm wrong, next stop is Jupiter.
    I think it's going to be close.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,673
    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    Every time log in here there are 60 posts to the Trump thread to 3 posts here on the Hillary thread. Looks like AMT is going Trump crazy. Strange Days!

    This is the most astute observation on these boards to date.
    It's because Trump is a gong show and Hillary isn't. There is a lot to say about Trump because he is so polarizing and ridiculous. He's basically a freak show, which of course creates a lot more conversation than a woman who is acting sane and mature. The fact that there has just been a 4 day long pep rally happening in the name of Trump - an ebarrassing GOP spectacle - obviously creates some chatter, lol.
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    If these terror attacks keep happening Trump will keep it close ... may even overtake her. I would never under estimate what fearful people will do. And now another possible terror attack in Munich (still early), plays perfectly for trump ... but either way no one will ever convince that trump or Clinton are good choices ... just the only choices most Americans would consider.
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    Every time log in here there are 60 posts to the Trump thread to 3 posts here on the Hillary thread. Looks like AMT is going Trump crazy. Strange Days!

    This is the most astute observation on these boards to date.
    It's because Trump is a gong show and Hillary isn't. There is a lot to say about Trump because he is so polarizing and ridiculous. He's basically a freak show, which of course creates a lot more conversation than a woman who is acting sane and mature. The fact that there has just been a 4 day long pep rally happening in the name of Trump - an ebarrassing GOP spectacle - obviously creates some chatter, lol.
    He is driving the story of the day every single day. He really believes that all press is good press. I don't know if it will work but it is darn sure progressing that way.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    brianlux said:

    Every time log in here there are 60 posts to the Trump thread to 3 posts here on the Hillary thread. Looks like AMT is going Trump crazy. Strange Days!

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,673
    edited July 2016
    Cliffy6745 said:

    Jearlpam0925 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Assume we're getting the VP pick today or tomorrow?

    Seems like Kaine's going to be the safe pick.

    But, I'll say, with Trump doubling down on all the crazy - wouldn't going the "safe" route of just showing how crazy Trump is at the DNC stand a chance of not working. I feel like going balls to the wall and bringing Warren on might bring in a lot of people voting for Stein and the such.

    But, as much as I think like this, I still come back around to how misogynistic this country is...
    Ah, yeah, looks like she'll likely be announcing him this afternoon. I think safe is fine...I think

    Would really like Warren, but yeah, I'd be a little worried about that. I do think it would help the Sanders/Stein people, to an extent, but it would be a complete side show with that lunatic. And yeah, I am not sure folks would be down with a 2 woman ticket, as sad as that is.
    Isn't it just so sick and disturbing how a ticket with two women on it is basically a complete non-option, while there are two men on the Republican ticket and no one bats an eye? I can't fucking believe I still live in a society like that. Pathetic.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    Russia is dumping 20,000 DNC emails right now.
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Jason P said:

    Russia is dumping 20,000 DNC emails right now.

    And yet her server was secure.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    BS44325 said:

    Jason P said:

    Russia is dumping 20,000 DNC emails right now.

    And yet her server was secure.
    Hmmm, she had the DNC server in her house too!?!
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    PJ_Soul said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Jearlpam0925 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Assume we're getting the VP pick today or tomorrow?

    Seems like Kaine's going to be the safe pick.

    But, I'll say, with Trump doubling down on all the crazy - wouldn't going the "safe" route of just showing how crazy Trump is at the DNC stand a chance of not working. I feel like going balls to the wall and bringing Warren on might bring in a lot of people voting for Stein and the such.

    But, as much as I think like this, I still come back around to how misogynistic this country is...
    Ah, yeah, looks like she'll likely be announcing him this afternoon. I think safe is fine...I think

    Would really like Warren, but yeah, I'd be a little worried about that. I do think it would help the Sanders/Stein people, to an extent, but it would be a complete side show with that lunatic. And yeah, I am not sure folks would be down with a 2 woman ticket, as sad as that is.
    Isn't it just so sick and disturbing how a ticket with two women on it is basically a complete non-option, while there are two men on the Republican ticket and no bats an eye? I can't fucking believe I still live in a society like that. Pathetic.
    Indeed it is
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    PJ_Soul said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Jearlpam0925 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Assume we're getting the VP pick today or tomorrow?

    Seems like Kaine's going to be the safe pick.

    But, I'll say, with Trump doubling down on all the crazy - wouldn't going the "safe" route of just showing how crazy Trump is at the DNC stand a chance of not working. I feel like going balls to the wall and bringing Warren on might bring in a lot of people voting for Stein and the such.

    But, as much as I think like this, I still come back around to how misogynistic this country is...
    Ah, yeah, looks like she'll likely be announcing him this afternoon. I think safe is fine...I think

    Would really like Warren, but yeah, I'd be a little worried about that. I do think it would help the Sanders/Stein people, to an extent, but it would be a complete side show with that lunatic. And yeah, I am not sure folks would be down with a 2 woman ticket, as sad as that is.
    Isn't it just so sick and disturbing how a ticket with two women on it is basically a complete non-option, while there are two men on the Republican ticket and no bats an eye? I can't fucking believe I still live in a society like that. Pathetic.
    Nobody said it was a non option. In fact, from everything I've read, Warren is in Hilarys top 3.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,673
    edited July 2016
    Degeneratefk said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Jearlpam0925 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Assume we're getting the VP pick today or tomorrow?

    Seems like Kaine's going to be the safe pick.

    But, I'll say, with Trump doubling down on all the crazy - wouldn't going the "safe" route of just showing how crazy Trump is at the DNC stand a chance of not working. I feel like going balls to the wall and bringing Warren on might bring in a lot of people voting for Stein and the such.

    But, as much as I think like this, I still come back around to how misogynistic this country is...
    Ah, yeah, looks like she'll likely be announcing him this afternoon. I think safe is fine...I think

    Would really like Warren, but yeah, I'd be a little worried about that. I do think it would help the Sanders/Stein people, to an extent, but it would be a complete side show with that lunatic. And yeah, I am not sure folks would be down with a 2 woman ticket, as sad as that is.
    Isn't it just so sick and disturbing how a ticket with two women on it is basically a complete non-option, while there are two men on the Republican ticket and no bats an eye? I can't fucking believe I still live in a society like that. Pathetic.
    Nobody said it was a non option. In fact, from everything I've read, Warren is in Hilarys top 3.
    It is very widely viewed as basically a non-option actually. The idea of two women running together was the very reason everyone knew Warren wouldn't be chosen. That she was supposedly even considered on any level was only Hillary making a point (or considering what would be ideal, however unrealistic). In the interests of having a shot, there was no way Warren was going to be picked.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    edited July 2016
    Degeneratefk said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Jearlpam0925 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Assume we're getting the VP pick today or tomorrow?

    Seems like Kaine's going to be the safe pick.

    But, I'll say, with Trump doubling down on all the crazy - wouldn't going the "safe" route of just showing how crazy Trump is at the DNC stand a chance of not working. I feel like going balls to the wall and bringing Warren on might bring in a lot of people voting for Stein and the such.

    But, as much as I think like this, I still come back around to how misogynistic this country is...
    Ah, yeah, looks like she'll likely be announcing him this afternoon. I think safe is fine...I think

    Would really like Warren, but yeah, I'd be a little worried about that. I do think it would help the Sanders/Stein people, to an extent, but it would be a complete side show with that lunatic. And yeah, I am not sure folks would be down with a 2 woman ticket, as sad as that is.
    Isn't it just so sick and disturbing how a ticket with two women on it is basically a complete non-option, while there are two men on the Republican ticket and no bats an eye? I can't fucking believe I still live in a society like that. Pathetic.
    Nobody said it was a non option. In fact, from everything I've read, Warren is in Hilarys top 3.
    The last four were Vilsack, Kaine, Perez and Booker. From a number of reports at least.
    Post edited by Cliffy6745 on
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    I think whoever she picks everyone will have to do a google search to learn about.
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    PJ_Soul said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Jearlpam0925 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Assume we're getting the VP pick today or tomorrow?

    Seems like Kaine's going to be the safe pick.

    But, I'll say, with Trump doubling down on all the crazy - wouldn't going the "safe" route of just showing how crazy Trump is at the DNC stand a chance of not working. I feel like going balls to the wall and bringing Warren on might bring in a lot of people voting for Stein and the such.

    But, as much as I think like this, I still come back around to how misogynistic this country is...
    Ah, yeah, looks like she'll likely be announcing him this afternoon. I think safe is fine...I think

    Would really like Warren, but yeah, I'd be a little worried about that. I do think it would help the Sanders/Stein people, to an extent, but it would be a complete side show with that lunatic. And yeah, I am not sure folks would be down with a 2 woman ticket, as sad as that is.
    Isn't it just so sick and disturbing how a ticket with two women on it is basically a complete non-option, while there are two men on the Republican ticket and no bats an eye? I can't fucking believe I still live in a society like that. Pathetic.
    Nobody said it was a non option. In fact, from everything I've read, Warren is in Hilarys top 3.
    It is very widely viewed as basically a non-option actually. The idea of two women running together was the very reason everyone knew Warren wouldn't be chosen. That she was supposedly even considered on any level was only Hillary making a point (or considering what would be ideal, however unrealistic). In the interests of having a shot, there was no way Warren was going to be picked.
    Cliffy6745 said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Jearlpam0925 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Assume we're getting the VP pick today or tomorrow?

    Seems like Kaine's going to be the safe pick.

    But, I'll say, with Trump doubling down on all the crazy - wouldn't going the "safe" route of just showing how crazy Trump is at the DNC stand a chance of not working. I feel like going balls to the wall and bringing Warren on might bring in a lot of people voting for Stein and the such.

    But, as much as I think like this, I still come back around to how misogynistic this country is...
    Ah, yeah, looks like she'll likely be announcing him this afternoon. I think safe is fine...I think

    Would really like Warren, but yeah, I'd be a little worried about that. I do think it would help the Sanders/Stein people, to an extent, but it would be a complete side show with that lunatic. And yeah, I am not sure folks would be down with a 2 woman ticket, as sad as that is.
    Isn't it just so sick and disturbing how a ticket with two women on it is basically a complete non-option, while there are two men on the Republican ticket and no bats an eye? I can't fucking believe I still live in a society like that. Pathetic.
    Nobody said it was a non option. In fact, from everything I've read, Warren is in Hilarys top 3.
    The last four were Vilsack, Kaine, Perez and Booker. From a number of reports at least.
    My guess would be that if Warren isn't a finalist, it's not because she's a woman, but because she really may that good of a choice.
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    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    Degeneratefk said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Jearlpam0925 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Assume we're getting the VP pick today or tomorrow?

    Seems like Kaine's going to be the safe pick.

    But, I'll say, with Trump doubling down on all the crazy - wouldn't going the "safe" route of just showing how crazy Trump is at the DNC stand a chance of not working. I feel like going balls to the wall and bringing Warren on might bring in a lot of people voting for Stein and the such.

    But, as much as I think like this, I still come back around to how misogynistic this country is...
    Ah, yeah, looks like she'll likely be announcing him this afternoon. I think safe is fine...I think

    Would really like Warren, but yeah, I'd be a little worried about that. I do think it would help the Sanders/Stein people, to an extent, but it would be a complete side show with that lunatic. And yeah, I am not sure folks would be down with a 2 woman ticket, as sad as that is.
    Isn't it just so sick and disturbing how a ticket with two women on it is basically a complete non-option, while there are two men on the Republican ticket and no bats an eye? I can't fucking believe I still live in a society like that. Pathetic.
    Nobody said it was a non option. In fact, from everything I've read, Warren is in Hilarys top 3.
    It is very widely viewed as basically a non-option actually. The idea of two women running together was the very reason everyone knew Warren wouldn't be chosen. That she was supposedly even considered on any level was only Hillary making a point (or considering what would be ideal, however unrealistic). In the interests of having a shot, there was no way Warren was going to be picked.
    Cliffy6745 said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Jearlpam0925 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Assume we're getting the VP pick today or tomorrow?

    Seems like Kaine's going to be the safe pick.

    But, I'll say, with Trump doubling down on all the crazy - wouldn't going the "safe" route of just showing how crazy Trump is at the DNC stand a chance of not working. I feel like going balls to the wall and bringing Warren on might bring in a lot of people voting for Stein and the such.

    But, as much as I think like this, I still come back around to how misogynistic this country is...
    Ah, yeah, looks like she'll likely be announcing him this afternoon. I think safe is fine...I think

    Would really like Warren, but yeah, I'd be a little worried about that. I do think it would help the Sanders/Stein people, to an extent, but it would be a complete side show with that lunatic. And yeah, I am not sure folks would be down with a 2 woman ticket, as sad as that is.
    Isn't it just so sick and disturbing how a ticket with two women on it is basically a complete non-option, while there are two men on the Republican ticket and no bats an eye? I can't fucking believe I still live in a society like that. Pathetic.
    Nobody said it was a non option. In fact, from everything I've read, Warren is in Hilarys top 3.
    The last four were Vilsack, Kaine, Perez and Booker. From a number of reports at least.
    My guess would be that if Warren isn't a finalist, it's not because she's a woman, but because she really may that good of a choice.
    I don't think she fits Clinton's style. Warren actually seems to care and show passion about the ideas that she preaches.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,673
    edited July 2016
    So are you saying that it would be fine and dandy, business as usual, if there were two women on the ticket and that that wouldn't affect Hillary's chances?? Because I think pretty much everyone knows that isn't the case.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    PJ_Soul said:

    So are you saying that it would be fine and dandy, business as usual, if there were two women on the ticket and that that wouldn't affect Hillary's chances?? Because I think pretty much everyone knows that isn't the case.

    Yeah, that's definitely not the case
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