The threat of intelligent Muslim kids!

g under p

Godfather. said:

g under p said:

Godfather. said:

oftenreading said:

Jason P said:

His clock doesn't look like a clock and it was unrelated to a school project. Protocol must be followed because (unfortunately) we live in a day where kids shoot and blow up other kids in school.

Now he gets to meet the POTUS?

His clock, as we saw it in the photo (which may have been after police tampered with it) doesn't look like a clock to you. GF says it "looks like a bomb", but how many bomb have you seen, GF, outside of tv? What it looks like to us is less relevant than what a competent engineering teacher (who presumably could understand it) would have thought it looked like. I mean, I'm no engineer, but I don't see any explosives in there.

it doesn't matter what I think it looked like, his teacher and police did think it looked like a bomb.
....after police tampered with it ?????? why do you think they tampered with it ?...well maybe it looked like a bomb !!!! most people don't see a bomb until that last split second when their life is about to end or change.

Godfather.

It was another teacher who alerted authorities to the device his engineering teacher apparently knew what the device was....a clock. No problem with the other calling her superiors, she was apparently unfamiliar with the device. When one is not in the know, find those who are in the know.

I also do have an issue that he was STILL suspended AFTER it was quite clear that the said device was clearly a clock.

Peace

clearly a clock......really ?

Godfather.

Did you read the post. Yes clearly a clock AFTER he was suspended and sent home, by then GF it was again clearly determined to be a clock. Now do you see what I was saying.

Peace

Last-12-Exit

badbrains said:

Last-12-Exit said:

Do you guys actually think that this would have turned out any different if a white kid built this clock?

You obviously didn't read g under p post

Yea, I did. All of them. I read them, and fully understood what he wrote.

PJ_Soul

Godfather. said:

g under p said:

Godfather. said:

oftenreading said:

Jason P said:

His clock doesn't look like a clock and it was unrelated to a school project. Protocol must be followed because (unfortunately) we live in a day where kids shoot and blow up other kids in school.

Now he gets to meet the POTUS?

His clock, as we saw it in the photo (which may have been after police tampered with it) doesn't look like a clock to you. GF says it "looks like a bomb", but how many bomb have you seen, GF, outside of tv? What it looks like to us is less relevant than what a competent engineering teacher (who presumably could understand it) would have thought it looked like. I mean, I'm no engineer, but I don't see any explosives in there.

it doesn't matter what I think it looked like, his teacher and police did think it looked like a bomb.
....after police tampered with it ?????? why do you think they tampered with it ?...well maybe it looked like a bomb !!!! most people don't see a bomb until that last split second when their life is about to end or change.

Godfather.

It was another teacher who alerted authorities to the device his engineering teacher apparently knew what the device was....a clock. No problem with the other calling her superiors, she was apparently unfamiliar with the device. When one is not in the know, find those who are in the know.

I also do have an issue that he was STILL suspended AFTER it was quite clear that the said device was clearly a clock.

Peace

clearly a clock......really ?

Godfather.

Well they know it's a clock now. Are you arguing they don't? That the kid is still suspended (assuming that's true - I'm only going off of this thread), that is absolutely terrible. I don't understand how that could possibly be the case. Surely they aren't upholding the suspension still.

Godfather.

Last-12-Exit said:

Do you guys actually think that this would have turned out any different if a white kid built this clock?

yes...he wouldn't be invited to the white house.

Godfather.

badbrains

Last-12-Exit said:

badbrains said:

Last-12-Exit said:

Do you guys actually think that this would have turned out any different if a white kid built this clock?

You obviously didn't read g under p post

Yea, I did. All of them. I read them, and fully understood what he wrote.

So why ask? Didn't he post about a white kid making a nuclear reactor or something to that extent? Wasn't he white?

Last-12-Exit

badbrains said:

Last-12-Exit said:

badbrains said:

Last-12-Exit said:

Do you guys actually think that this would have turned out any different if a white kid built this clock?

You obviously didn't read g under p post

Yea, I did. All of them. I read them, and fully understood what he wrote.

So why ask? Didn't he post about a white kid making a nuclear reactor or something to that extent? Wasn't he white?

So what g under p writes is clearly the opinion of everyone?

PJ_Soul

Godfather. said:

Last-12-Exit said:

Do you guys actually think that this would have turned out any different if a white kid built this clock?

yes...he wouldn't be invited to the white house.

Godfather.

We don't know that.

badbrains

Last-12-Exit said:

badbrains said:

Last-12-Exit said:

badbrains said:

Last-12-Exit said:

Do you guys actually think that this would have turned out any different if a white kid built this clock?

You obviously didn't read g under p post

Yea, I did. All of them. I read them, and fully understood what he wrote.

So why ask? Didn't he post about a white kid making a nuclear reactor or something to that extent? Wasn't he white?

So what g under p writes is clearly the opinion of everyone?

Omg, he included a fucken link. Dude, just stop.

Cliffy6745

Godfather. said:

Last-12-Exit said:

Do you guys actually think that this would have turned out any different if a white kid built this clock?

yes...he wouldn't be invited to the white house.

Godfather.

Poor white folks. Never gonna make it to the White House

Last-12-Exit

Whatever, I don't think this kid was violated. I'm sure he was scared and his parents were horrified. I highly doubt this event turns this kid into a terrorist.

This biggest injustice here isn't handcuffs. It's why this kid is still suspended from school.

g under p

badbrains said:

Last-12-Exit said:

badbrains said:

Last-12-Exit said:

badbrains said:

Last-12-Exit said:

Do you guys actually think that this would have turned out any different if a white kid built this clock?

You obviously didn't read g under p post

Yea, I did. All of them. I read them, and fully understood what he wrote.

So why ask? Didn't he post about a white kid making a nuclear reactor or something to that extent? Wasn't he white?

So what g under p writes is clearly the opinion of everyone?

Omg, he included a fucken link. Dude, just stop.

Unlike others I like to back my shit up, especially on subjects of race. thanks

Peace

g under p

Last-12-Exit said:

Whatever, I don't think this kid was violated. I'm sure he was scared and his parents were horrified. I highly doubt this event turns this kid into a terrorist.

This biggest injustice here isn't handcuffs. It's why this kid is still suspended from school.

I don't think anyone said this event will turn him into a terrorist, I certainly will not. He may not have been violated but I pretty sure this incident has produced some trauma to him that he will not forget.

The suspension I clearly don't understand either unless the school is trying in some odd way to teach him a lesson to not build anything again and NOT to bring it to school without school permission.

Peace

Jason P

Gawker has gone to plaid on this story, somehow connecting the dots that Obama's drone program would have killed this kid.

gawker.com/obamas-drone-program-probably-would-have-killed-ahmed-t-1731145274

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBVqygvinzw

g under p

http://mentalfloss.com/article/28576/mad-scientist-month-whos-afraid-taylor-wilson

At 10, he built his first bomb. At 14, he made a nuclear reactor. Now he’s 17…

Taylor Wilson makes people nervous. While his beanpole frame and Justin Bieber–esque haircut suggest he’s just a harmless kid, his after-school activities paint a far more ominous picture. At age 10, he built his first bomb out of a pill bottle and household chemicals. At 11, he started mining for uranium and buying vials of plutonium on the Internet. At 14, he became the youngest person in the world to build a nuclear fusion reactor. “I’m obsessed with radioactivity. I don’t know why,” says Wilson in his laid-back drawl. “Possibly because there’s power in atoms that you can’t see, an unlocked power.”

Shouldn’t teams in hazmat suits descend on Wilson and shut down his operations before someone gets hurt? On the contrary, there are people in the government who think that Wilson is key to keeping this country safe.

“The Cold War is really when nuclear physicists got their shot, and those people are all retiring,” points out one of Wilson’s mentors, Ron Phaneuf, a professor of physics at the University of Nevada in Reno. “I think the U.S. Department of Energy is a little concerned that the motivation of young people to get interested in that kind of science has waned. I think that’s one of the reasons doors have been opened to Taylor. He’s a phenomenon, probably the most brilliant person I’ve met in my life, and I’ve met Nobel laureates.”

When the U.S. Department of Homeland Security heard about Wilson two years ago, officials invited him to their offices to hear more about his research and determine whether or not it could be applied toward their counter-terrorism efforts. Because Wilson was only 15, they weren’t expecting much, but Wilson came prepared. After shaking everyone’s hands, he announced, “You know your building’s radio-active, right?” The pager-sized Geiger counter attached to Wilson’s belt was beeping, an indication that the granite surrounding them contained unusually high amounts of uranium—not enough to be harmful, but enough for Wilson to raise a few eyebrows.

“Their own building was radioactive and most didn’t know it,” Wilson says. “That’s when they started to take me really seriously.”

THE YOUNG FUSIONEER

This was from my link....

Do any of you think if this was Ahmed or some other Middle Eastern Muslim teen he would've been treated the same way?

Peace

Kat

Oh he was violated all right. He was forced to do a perp walk in front of the other students to the patrol car. At 14 that's EVERYTHING. For a freaking clock. I've heard on the news that he won't be going back to that school...looking for a new one. I hope they'll be able to find one with intelligent people teaching and administering.
grrrrrr.

Last-12-Exit

Kat said:

Oh he was violated all right. He was forced to do a perp walk in front of the other students to the patrol car. At 14 that's EVERYTHING. For a freaking clock. I've heard on the news that he won't be going back to that school...looking for a new one. I hope they'll be able to find one with intelligent people teaching and administering.
grrrrrr.

It's a walk thousands of people take on a weekly basis. He's not the first person to have handcuffs put on and turn out to be innocent.

I agree, be won't be going back to that school. I dont blame him.

ldent42

http://www.slate.com/blogs/schooled/2015/09/17/kiera_wilmot_arrest_florida_teenager_reacts_to_ahmed_mohamed_story.html

Two years before Ahmed Mohamed was arrested for bringing a homemade clock to his suburban Dallas high school, Kiera Wilmot, then 16, brought a science-fair experiment to her school in Bartow, Florida. After she mixed toilet-bowl cleaner and aluminum foil in a water bottle—an extremely popular YouTube science experiment (1,430 results right here)—the lid popped off and smoke poured out.

Though there were no injuries or property damage, administrators at Bartow High School contacted the police, who arrested Wilmot and led the 11th-grader, an honor student with no history of disciplinary problems, off in handcuffs. Sound familiar? “It was literally one week after the Boston bombing and I was being compared to the Boston bomber,” she told a local news station.

Wilmot, who is black, was suspended for 10 days and recommended for expulsion. She was also charged with two felonies, though—after great public outcry—these charges were later dropped and her record expunged. After completing her junior year at an alternative high school for troubled kids, Wilmot returned to Bartow High School, which is 60 percent white, her senior year and graduated on time.

I spoke with Wilmot—now 19 and a sophomore at Florida Polytechnic University majoring in mechanical engineering—this morning about Mohamed’s predicament. She said that her first reaction was anger: “I honestly thought, ‘How could this happen to somebody else?’ ”

Islamophobia has been cited as a (or the) factor in Mohamed’s arrest; did race play a role in Wilmot’s? When asked if she thought she would’ve received the same treatment if she’d been white, Wilmot said, “I’m not sure.” And then, after a judicious pause, “No, probably not.”

When she returned to Bartow High her senior year, Wilmot said, “There were a few students who started a beef with me, they’d say stuff like ‘next time you plan to blow up the school, let us know’ and that kind of thing,” but the administrators who’d called the police on her never apologized or even acknowledged the incident to her face.

“I still have people who harass me about it and call me a terrorist, but I’ve moved on,” Wilmot said. And some good has come from her arrest, too: “I got a scholarship to space camp and got to meet Homer Hickam,” former NASA engineer, “who’s my hero,” Wilmot said.

Does she have any advice for Mohamed, now the most famous 14-year-old MIT aspirant in the country? “I’d like to tell him that he’s got to move forward and rise up out of this,” she said. “He can show everyone he can’t be brought down by what happened and make something good of this.”

Like, say, the invitation Mohamed received from President Obama to attend Astronomy Night on the South Lawn of the White House next month? Yeah, that’ll do.

ldent42

You guys have seen the movie Idiocracy right?

Godfather.

g under p said:

Godfather. said:

g under p said:

Godfather. said:

oftenreading said:

Jason P said:

His clock doesn't look like a clock and it was unrelated to a school project. Protocol must be followed because (unfortunately) we live in a day where kids shoot and blow up other kids in school.

Now he gets to meet the POTUS?

His clock, as we saw it in the photo (which may have been after police tampered with it) doesn't look like a clock to you. GF says it "looks like a bomb", but how many bomb have you seen, GF, outside of tv? What it looks like to us is less relevant than what a competent engineering teacher (who presumably could understand it) would have thought it looked like. I mean, I'm no engineer, but I don't see any explosives in there.

it doesn't matter what I think it looked like, his teacher and police did think it looked like a bomb.
....after police tampered with it ?????? why do you think they tampered with it ?...well maybe it looked like a bomb !!!! most people don't see a bomb until that last split second when their life is about to end or change.

Godfather.

It was another teacher who alerted authorities to the device his engineering teacher apparently knew what the device was....a clock. No problem with the other calling her superiors, she was apparently unfamiliar with the device. When one is not in the know, find those who are in the know.

I also do have an issue that he was STILL suspended AFTER it was quite clear that the said device was clearly a clock.

Peace

clearly a clock......really ?

Godfather.

Did you read the post. Yes clearly a clock AFTER he was suspended and sent home, by then GF it was again clearly determined to be a clock. Now do you see what I was saying.

Peace

ahhh o.k I see.

Godfather.

Godfather.

Kat said:

Oh he was violated all right. He was forced to do a perp walk in front of the other students to the patrol car. At 14 that's EVERYTHING. For a freaking clock. I've heard on the news that he won't be going back to that school...looking for a new one. I hope they'll be able to find one with intelligent people teaching and administering.
grrrrrr.

I know you don't post much or like to respond to posts but what is the difference between a kid being suspended or expelled for bringing a toy gun or even as simple as praying at school, after all the school shootings that have happened don't you think using a little caution is called for ? kid's his age and younger have killed grown men, the school and the people who spotted this "home made clock" should be praised for looking out for the safety of the other students and faculty...wouldn't you think ?

Godfather.