The threat of intelligent Muslim kids!

jnimhaoileoin

Last-12-Exit said:

You guys are taking this way too personal. If it had been a bomb, he could have detonated it whenever he wanted. Should they have taken him into a room? Yes. But they didn't. This kids human rights weren't violated. He was a suspect with a suspect device. Get over it.

I'm so glad I don't live in a country where a clock is considered a "suspect device"

Last-12-Exit

jnimhaoileoin said:

Last-12-Exit said:

You guys are taking this way too personal. If it had been a bomb, he could have detonated it whenever he wanted. Should they have taken him into a room? Yes. But they didn't. This kids human rights weren't violated. He was a suspect with a suspect device. Get over it.

I'm so glad I don't live in a country where a clock is considered a "suspect device"

I don't blame the teachers fir being cautious. It does suck when you live in a country that had 20 children mowed down with an AR-15.

northerndragon

Last-12-Exit said:

You guys are taking this way too personal. If it had been a bomb, he could have detonated it whenever he wanted. Should they have taken him into a room? Yes. But they didn't. This kids human rights weren't violated. He was a suspect with a suspect device. Get over it.

Last-12-Exit said:

Seriously? The trauma? It's not that big of a deal. The kid is going to get laid as a result of this. He's already been invited to the white house. This kid is the most popular kid in the school district. Too bad he's suspended.

His human rights were violated, unfortunately "freedom" in the US has degraded so badly that the interest in feeding the paranoia now outweighs a persons human rights a common sense.
And yes the trauma, we see all the invites to all the great things and go "oh well all fixed now". What we don't see is the humiliation this boy felt, how it really affected him, nor how it will affect him going forward. Again I say, you create what you fear.
Honestly I have to hold back the eye rolling and laughter when I travel in the states and see how "free" it really is down there.

Last-12-Exit

I don't know how it's done in other countries, but here if you are a suspect, you can be handcuffed. Christ, they didn't beat him, or verbally abuse him. They handcuffed him until they knew it was safe. Big deal. The bigger injustice is that he got suspended.

PJ_Soul

Things affect different people in different ways. Something that traumatizes one person is no big deal to another person.

dignin

Last-12-Exit said:

You guys are taking this way too personal. If it had been a bomb, he could have detonated it whenever he wanted. Should they have taken him into a room? Yes. But they didn't. This kids human rights weren't violated. He was a suspect with a suspect device. Get over it.

I believe he was held for around 4 hours and questioned without his parents or a lawyer present...I'm not a lawyer but that doesn't sound very appropriate.....and maybe his rights were violated.

PJ_Soul

dignin said:

Last-12-Exit said:

You guys are taking this way too personal. If it had been a bomb, he could have detonated it whenever he wanted. Should they have taken him into a room? Yes. But they didn't. This kids human rights weren't violated. He was a suspect with a suspect device. Get over it.

I believe he was held for around 4 hours and questioned without his parents or a lawyer present...I'm not a lawyer but that doesn't sound very appropriate.....and maybe his rights were violated.

I doubt they were, under the Patriot Act. I'm not sticking up for the cops, but they probably had a right to do what they did if they can claim that they suspected terrorist activity.

g under p

Last-12-Exit said:

Seriously? The trauma? It's not that big of a deal. The kid is going to get laid as a result of this. He's already been invited to the white house. This kid is the most popular kid in the school district. Too bad he's suspended.

It's not a big deal because he's going to get lots of *poonaanee*......well I have to TOTALLY DISAGREE! One thing you have to remember from the teen's point of view was that he was building creating something INNOCENTLY to impress his teacher and for reasons unknown to him initially he's arrested and placed in handcuffs. I don't care what you say THAT trauma at THAT age is going to stay with him for the rest of his life. What happened to me has never ever left me and I was 18 at the time, no matter how much I tried to forget it still stays with and what SOME officers can do when and if they feel like it.

Peace

badbrains

Scott, seriously, sometimes you post dumb things. I'd love for your son to be held for 4 hrs without you being allowed to see him or know what the fuck is going on. And if you wouldn't freak out then sorry, you need to figure out some parenting skills. I don't think there'd be any parent in here who wouldn't freak the fuck out if that happened to their kid. Seriously man

g under p

PJ_Soul said:

dignin said:

Last-12-Exit said:

You guys are taking this way too personal. If it had been a bomb, he could have detonated it whenever he wanted. Should they have taken him into a room? Yes. But they didn't. This kids human rights weren't violated. He was a suspect with a suspect device. Get over it.

I believe he was held for around 4 hours and questioned without his parents or a lawyer present...I'm not a lawyer but that doesn't sound very appropriate.....and maybe his rights were violated.

I doubt they were, under the Patriot Act. I'm not sticking up for the cops, but they probably had a right to do what they did if they can claim that they suspected terrorist activity.

Even if it was determined early that this device was indeed deemed to be a clock. He never claimed that his device was nothing other than something that that tells time. I don't how he can be suspected of terrorist activity when his device was determined to be nothing other than a clock.

Peace

Last-12-Exit

g under p said:

Last-12-Exit said:

Seriously? The trauma? It's not that big of a deal. The kid is going to get laid as a result of this. He's already been invited to the white house. This kid is the most popular kid in the school district. Too bad he's suspended.

It's not a big deal because he's going to get lots of *poonaanee*......well I have to TOTALLY DISAGREE! One thing you have to remember from the teen's point of view was that he was building creating something INNOCENTLY to impress his teacher and for reasons unknown to him initially he's arrested and placed in handcuffs. I don't care what you say THAT trauma at THAT age is going to stay with him for the rest of his life. What happened to me has never ever left me and I was 18 at the time, no matter how much I tried to forget it still stays with and what SOME officers can do when and if they feel like it.

Peace

What happened to you was completely different than what happened this kid.

g under p

PJ_Soul said:

Things affect different people in different ways. Something that traumatizes one person is no big deal to another person.

True, IF I was a career criminal at 18, being arrested and in handcuffs it wouldn't be a big deal to me at the time. However, because I was never in that situation of a jail with bars, drunks, other officers passing by with teasing saying smart remarks. That shit traumatizes one for sure.

Peace

Last-12-Exit

badbrains said:

Scott, seriously, sometimes you post dumb things. I'd love for your son to be held for 4 hrs without you being allowed to see him or know what the fuck is going on. And if you wouldn't freak out then sorry, you need to figure out some parenting skills. I don't think there'd be any parent in here who wouldn't freak the fuck out if that happened to their kid. Seriously man

When did I say his parents shouldn't have been freaked out? Of course they would. And of course I would. But in the grand scheme, it's not a big deal.

Imagine for one second that this is a bomb and nothing was done about it. What would you all say about the teachers and cops then? That they were incompetent.

jeffbr

badbrains said:

Scott, seriously, sometimes you post dumb things. I'd love for your son to be held for 4 hrs without you being allowed to see him or know what the fuck is going on. And if you wouldn't freak out then sorry, you need to figure out some parenting skills. I don't think there'd be any parent in here who wouldn't freak the fuck out if that happened to their kid. Seriously man

Absolutely. When my kids were younger, and as they reached driving age, I explained to them that if they were ever stopped by the police they should comply with orders, but should never talk to them without me there. I told them that if they were ever questioned about anything to let the cop know that they would need to call me first, and I'd be there before any questions started. My daughter didn't drink until college, so in high school she tended to be a designated driver if any of her friends were drinking. She drove to a place where a party was happening to pick up a friend who needed a ride. The cops showed up as she pulled up, and she started to get questioned. She explained that she'd talk to them, but only after calling me and waiting for me to get there. They told her to be safe and sent her on her way. There is no way she would have sat for 4 hours being interrogated, and me not knowing about it. That isn't OK. And why the hell did it take 4 hours to make the determination that the device was a clock, and the kid wasn't a threat? Are they all a little slow down there?

Godfather.

brianlux said:

g under p said:

Godfather. said:

oftenreading said:

Jason P said:

His clock doesn't look like a clock and it was unrelated to a school project. Protocol must be followed because (unfortunately) we live in a day where kids shoot and blow up other kids in school.

Now he gets to meet the POTUS?

His clock, as we saw it in the photo (which may have been after police tampered with it) doesn't look like a clock to you. GF says it "looks like a bomb", but how many bomb have you seen, GF, outside of tv? What it looks like to us is less relevant than what a competent engineering teacher (who presumably could understand it) would have thought it looked like. I mean, I'm no engineer, but I don't see any explosives in there.

it doesn't matter what I think it looked like, his teacher and police did think it looked like a bomb.
....after police tampered with it ?????? why do you think they tampered with it ?...well maybe it looked like a bomb !!!! most people don't see a bomb until that last split second when their life is about to end or change.

Godfather.

It was another teacher who alerted authorities to the device his engineering teacher apparently knew what the device was....a clock. No problem with the other calling her superiors, she was apparently unfamiliar with the device. When one is not in the know, find those who are in the know.

I also do have an issue that he was STILL suspended AFTER it was quite clear that the said device was clearly a clock.

Peace

badbrains said:

g under p said:

A Muslim teenager built a simple clock out of electronic components and took it to show his engineering teacher at school — but he was arrested when another teacher thought it looked like a bomb and alerted administrators.

Police in Irving, Texas, never suspected the device was an explosive device and did not alert the bomb squad, but they still arrested 14-year-old Ahmed Mohamed because he could offer no “broader explanation” for his clock besides describing it as a device that measures time.

What do you think would happen if a white 14 year old built a nuclear reactor in his parent's home


What would be the reaction of the authorities. Lets see shall we?


When another 14-year-old boy built a nuclear reactor at his parents’ home he was invited to meet with officials from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and the U.S. Department of Energy — who http://mentalfloss.com/article/28576/mad-scientist-month-whos-afraid-taylor-wilson offered their expert assistance, equipment and encouragement to apply for a research grant.

READ MORE: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/the-mayor-of-ahmed-mohameds-town-is-a-well-known-conservative-folk-hero-for-fighting-fake-muslim-threats The mayor of Ahmed Mohamed’s town is a well-known conservative folk hero for fighting fake Muslim ‘threats’

Taylor Wilson, who is white, entered his nuclear fusion reactor five years ago in a series of science fairs that eventually won him a trip to Switzerland, where he toured the Large Hadron Collider — the world’s largest particle accelerator.

Wilson, now 21 years old, later won $50,000 at a science fair for an anti-terrorism device he invented that can detect nuclear materials in cargo containers.
He http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jun/20/taylor-wilson-nuclear-teen-genius-science-interview demonstrated that device to President Barack Obama at another science fair organized at the White House.

The president also invited Mohamed to visit him at the White House after the Muslim teen’s story sparked national outrage over an apparent double standard.
Cool clock, Ahmed. Want to bring it to the White House? We should inspire more kids like you to like science. It’s what makes America great.
— President Obama (@POTUS)

https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/644193755814342656

September 16, 2015
And what would happen if the kid was BLACK?

Well.....

A black Florida teen was http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/02/florida-student-arrested-science-experiment-blast/2130381/ arrested and expelled in April 2013 after her science fair experiment, which involved mixing toilet bowl cleaner and aluminum foil in a plastic water bottle, created a chemical reaction that resulted in a firecracker-like “pop” and some smoke.

The reaction caused no injuries or damage, but the principal of Bartown High School feared the device had violated school policies.

Police charged Kiera Wilmot, then 16, with possession and discharge of a weapon on school grounds and with discharging a destructive device.

The honors student was http://abcnews.go.com/US/cleared-charges-honor-student-space-camp/story?id=19236561 eventually cleared of charges[/url] and went to the U.S. Space Academy after a NASA veteran heard about her story and paid for scholarships for Wilmot and her twin sister.

Incredible.

Peace

Thanks for posting. Ya, there's NO bigotry in America or on these boards.

the last great act of defiance... "bigotry" has anybody thought to bring up racist yet ? because clearly that's all you guys have, the ol' stand by that keeps on working for you, originality is great !

Godfather.

Godfather.

g under p said:

Godfather. said:

oftenreading said:

Jason P said:

His clock doesn't look like a clock and it was unrelated to a school project. Protocol must be followed because (unfortunately) we live in a day where kids shoot and blow up other kids in school.

Now he gets to meet the POTUS?

His clock, as we saw it in the photo (which may have been after police tampered with it) doesn't look like a clock to you. GF says it "looks like a bomb", but how many bomb have you seen, GF, outside of tv? What it looks like to us is less relevant than what a competent engineering teacher (who presumably could understand it) would have thought it looked like. I mean, I'm no engineer, but I don't see any explosives in there.

it doesn't matter what I think it looked like, his teacher and police did think it looked like a bomb.
....after police tampered with it ?????? why do you think they tampered with it ?...well maybe it looked like a bomb !!!! most people don't see a bomb until that last split second when their life is about to end or change.

Godfather.

It was another teacher who alerted authorities to the device his engineering teacher apparently knew what the device was....a clock. No problem with the other calling her superiors, she was apparently unfamiliar with the device. When one is not in the know, find those who are in the know.

I also do have an issue that he was STILL suspended AFTER it was quite clear that the said device was clearly a clock.

Peace

clearly a clock......really ?

Godfather.

Last-12-Exit

Do you guys actually think that this would have turned out any different if a white kid built this clock?

badbrains

Last-12-Exit said:

Do you guys actually think that this would have turned out any different if a white kid built this clock?

You obviously didn't read g under p post

PJ_Soul

g under p said:

PJ_Soul said:

dignin said:

Last-12-Exit said:

You guys are taking this way too personal. If it had been a bomb, he could have detonated it whenever he wanted. Should they have taken him into a room? Yes. But they didn't. This kids human rights weren't violated. He was a suspect with a suspect device. Get over it.

I believe he was held for around 4 hours and questioned without his parents or a lawyer present...I'm not a lawyer but that doesn't sound very appropriate.....and maybe his rights were violated.

I doubt they were, under the Patriot Act. I'm not sticking up for the cops, but they probably had a right to do what they did if they can claim that they suspected terrorist activity.

Even if it was determined early that this device was indeed deemed to be a clock. He never claimed that his device was nothing other than something that that tells time. I don't how he can be suspected of terrorist activity when his device was determined to be nothing other than a clock.

Peace

I don't either, but I'm sure the Patriot Act gives the cops an excuse anyway, unfortunately.

badbrains

Godfather. said:

g under p said:

Godfather. said:

oftenreading said:

Jason P said:

His clock doesn't look like a clock and it was unrelated to a school project. Protocol must be followed because (unfortunately) we live in a day where kids shoot and blow up other kids in school.

Now he gets to meet the POTUS?

His clock, as we saw it in the photo (which may have been after police tampered with it) doesn't look like a clock to you. GF says it "looks like a bomb", but how many bomb have you seen, GF, outside of tv? What it looks like to us is less relevant than what a competent engineering teacher (who presumably could understand it) would have thought it looked like. I mean, I'm no engineer, but I don't see any explosives in there.

it doesn't matter what I think it looked like, his teacher and police did think it looked like a bomb.
....after police tampered with it ?????? why do you think they tampered with it ?...well maybe it looked like a bomb !!!! most people don't see a bomb until that last split second when their life is about to end or change.

Godfather.

It was another teacher who alerted authorities to the device his engineering teacher apparently knew what the device was....a clock. No problem with the other calling her superiors, she was apparently unfamiliar with the device. When one is not in the know, find those who are in the know.

I also do have an issue that he was STILL suspended AFTER it was quite clear that the said device was clearly a clock.

Peace

clearly a clock......really ?

Godfather.

Please tell me and everyone else you have a pic of the clock BEFORE the cops got their hands on it. Notice how I spelled "their" GF. Just trying to help you out. But please share the pic with all of us because all I've seen is a briefcase made to look like a bomb after the authorities realized how silly they look and had to do something to make it look like a bomb.