The people who are tolerant are the people allowing others to worship immortal, omnipresent superior beings living in the sky and capable of anything in relative peace.
Go ahead. If you are happy and die happy worshipping a superior being... them I'm in favour of you worshipping a superior being. The only thing is... while you're doing that... don't f**king tread on others and their idea of happiness.
Geezuz, man.
I've spoken out about religion and mocked it in very poor fashion on several occasions; but I need to say... I usually only get fired up against religion when it is the motivating force for some despicable act.
What does this have to do with the county clerk? Quit pissing on muslin and Christian religion. I would say YOU are the weird one, as millions of others are Muslims and Christians. How many atheists are there again? Basically zero? That's what I thought.
County clerk is doing what she thinks is morally correct and I do and will continue to applaud her for doing so. If we don't do gods work it will fade and the world will then turn into hell, and I'm sure no one wants that.
....so then If I wanted a cake ...white frosting 16" X 16" X 16" with read lettering that read white power baked at the bakery owned by a black couple in thier mid to late 60's I would not be imposing on them and they should be happy to get my business ? or should I understand how they may feel about it and go to another bakery ?
Godfather.
Is it illegal for them to refuse to make the cake based on what you want it to say?
really ? what ever happened to the bakery owners that refused to bake a wedding cake for same sex ....people ? it was all over the news for a while that there was a fine and they didn't seem to have the right to refuse service anybody.....or does that rule not aply to same sex couples ?
Godfather.
did you really pause and search for a word to describe "same sex........people"?
they are people too.
that would be like me describing people of faith and act like i am searching for a word to describe what they are.
I hate this woman now. I don't want to talk or think about her. She's a nobody.
Well, you still thought, spoke, and wrote about her. So ahe apparently does bother you, that means you're incorrect and do in fact care about her. She's a good woman, lay off her.
And posting pics with the word cunt is very degrading. How would she feel? Would you say that to her face? Didn't think so.
If Davis were an atheist refusing to give licenses to Christians would Huckabee still be defending her? The argument would still be the same right? Not doing your job based on your beliefs that is.
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The people who are tolerant are the people allowing others to worship immortal, omnipresent superior beings living in the sky and capable of anything in relative peace.
Go ahead. If you are happy and die happy worshipping a superior being... them I'm in favour of you worshipping a superior being. The only thing is... while you're doing that... don't f**king tread on others and their idea of happiness.
Geezuz, man.
I've spoken out about religion and mocked it in very poor fashion on several occasions; but I need to say... I usually only get fired up against religion when it is the motivating force for some despicable act.
What does this have to do with the county clerk? Quit pissing on muslin and Christian religion. I would say YOU are the weird one, as millions of others are Muslims and Christians. How many atheists are there again? Basically zero? That's what I thought.
County clerk is doing what she thinks is morally correct and I do and will continue to applaud her for doing so. If we don't do gods work it will fade and the world will then turn into hell, and I'm sure no one wants that.
Yah gee. You're right. The last thing we need is a bunch of demons floating around and chasing us. It'd be freakin' hot too- all that fire getting us and stuff.
I'll do some good prayers tonight and chip in with pleasing God. Maybe then I won't be so damn weird. Hey... wait a sec... why are you calling me 'weird'? I thought you said name calling was uncool?
It's funny, because the basic thought of anyone in the minority being slammed by the (self)righteous (and slamming others for being weird? really?) ...oh so ironic.
For fuck's sake, JAG. Get off your high horse already. Any valid point you may have made over time (still searching) are negated by this kind of bullshit.
But keep applauding her for discrimination. You never answered my question about "knowing" what god would want, and how you could have such a firm grip on it.
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About 14% of worlds population are Athiests. Hardly basically zero. And in many countries including the US this number is growing.
People are getting smarter.
They've been slow to do it... but people have started to think of the logic behind the story they've been sold. "You just need to have faith" doesn't exactly answer the tough questions. At least it never did for me.
Answering tough questions. Seems to be a challenging thing for some.
< County clerk is doing what she thinks is morally correct and I do and will continue to applaud her for doing so. If we don't do gods work it will fade and the world will then turn into hell, and I'm sure no one wants that.
I asked this in the other thread regarding Kim Davis, and I will repeat it here as you may have missed it before the thread was closed:
Could someone please give a clear, definitive job description of what God's work is? I'm being serious. It seems that the wording is vague enough that many people interpret how they wish and use it to justify whatever actions they take. A clear description would be most helpful and greatly appreciated. Please and thank you.
< County clerk is doing what she thinks is morally correct and I do and will continue to applaud her for doing so. If we don't do gods work it will fade and the world will then turn into hell, and I'm sure no one wants that.
I asked this in the other thread regarding Kim Davis, and I will repeat it here as you may have missed it before the thread was closed:
Could someone please give a clear, definitive job description of what God's work is? I'm being serious. It seems that the wording is vague enough that many people interpret how they wish and use it to justify whatever actions they take. A clear description would be most helpful and greatly appreciated. Please and thank you.
< County clerk is doing what she thinks is morally correct and I do and will continue to applaud her for doing so. If we don't do gods work it will fade and the world will then turn into hell, and I'm sure no one wants that.
I asked this in the other thread regarding Kim Davis, and I will repeat it here as you may have missed it before the thread was closed:
Could someone please give a clear, definitive job description of what God's work is? I'm being serious. It seems that the wording is vague enough that many people interpret how they wish and use it to justify whatever actions they take. A clear description would be most helpful and greatly appreciated. Please and thank you.
< County clerk is doing what she thinks is morally correct and I do and will continue to applaud her for doing so. If we don't do gods work it will fade and the world will then turn into hell, and I'm sure no one wants that.
I asked this in the other thread regarding Kim Davis, and I will repeat it here as you may have missed it before the thread was closed:
Could someone please give a clear, definitive job description of what God's work is? I'm being serious. It seems that the wording is vague enough that many people interpret how they wish and use it to justify whatever actions they take. A clear description would be most helpful and greatly appreciated. Please and thank you.
God wants us to go forth with love.
But selective love. You can't just be loving... anybody.
< County clerk is doing what she thinks is morally correct and I do and will continue to applaud her for doing so. If we don't do gods work it will fade and the world will then turn into hell, and I'm sure no one wants that.
I asked this in the other thread regarding Kim Davis, and I will repeat it here as you may have missed it before the thread was closed:
Could someone please give a clear, definitive job description of what God's work is? I'm being serious. It seems that the wording is vague enough that many people interpret how they wish and use it to justify whatever actions they take. A clear description would be most helpful and greatly appreciated. Please and thank you.
God wants us to go forth with love.
But selective love. You can't just be loving... anybody.
^^ But I do. And you know what? I love God, too. He hasn't struck me down yet. I'd like to think that God has us here to love everyone and judge no one. You know, it's kind of not my job.
Exactly what it comes down to, deadend. I get Thirty's sarcasm too!
Growing up and even now, it seemed to me that god was / is about love, embracing, comforting...not dividing...not inspiring fear or one who'd coerce people to "do the right thing" because it'd leave them up high vs kindness for its own sake.
Guessing the JAG'ged one won't address this or lo, the many other comments and questions made?
< County clerk is doing what she thinks is morally correct and I do and will continue to applaud her for doing so. If we don't do gods work it will fade and the world will then turn into hell, and I'm sure no one wants that.
I asked this in the other thread regarding Kim Davis, and I will repeat it here as you may have missed it before the thread was closed:
Could someone please give a clear, definitive job description of what God's work is? I'm being serious. It seems that the wording is vague enough that many people interpret how they wish and use it to justify whatever actions they take. A clear description would be most helpful and greatly appreciated. Please and thank you.
Maybe the key is in the phrase, "If we don't do gods work..." Maybe that's the deal- God is trying to get people to do all the work which is rather ironic seeing as how he/she/it is omnipotent. But at least the Devils lets us have all the fun!
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I don't care what anyone thinks God's work is supposed to be, partly because no one could know that, namely because God doesn't exist anyway, and also because God has no place in government anyhow, so what difference does it make?? JAG, how do you justify your idea that personal religious belief has any place in government and how the law defines and serves equal rights, and how do you reconcile it with your own apparent respect of the Constitution in other regards? For example, how can you possibly defend your right to free speech or right to bear arms, while supporting opposition to the Constitution based on your religious beliefs?
I guess it's pretty ridiculous of me to expect any kind of logical comment or answer from you about anything at this point, but I keep hoping. I do actually think that you are just a very creative troll who loves to say whatever you feel will get people irritated (i picture you sitting at the computer and chuckling and cackling over how gullible we all are), but even so, I am curious to see what you can come up with as an answer to that question.
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I would call her that to her face. And guess what, I just got home from church. Yep, I go to church, I believe in God, I respect anyone's right to believe in God or not. It's a personal decision and none of my business.
I think that woman has no business in a job where she can't separate her religion from her work.
What PJSoul just said, "How do you justify your idea that personal religious belief has any place in government and how the law defines and serves equal rights, and how do you reconcile it with your own apparent respect of the Constitution in other regards? For example, how can you possibly defend your right to free speech or right to bear arms, while supporting opposition to the Constitution based on your religious beliefs?"
I can respect the fact that someone has strong beliefs, even beliefs I disagree with, if they don't harm other people. But most people faced with the dilemma of standing up for their beliefs or doing their job would find another job. If someone is elected to office, they're probably more likely to face decisions and compromises than us regular working stiffs, but they choose to run for office and that comes with the territory.
Davis has a pretty good gig. She gets a very good salary in a locale where there aren't a lot of job opportunities, from what I can tell. She still collects her salary for the time she spent in jail. Why should she resign? Even if she's sent back to jail, she still gets paid while claiming that she's persecuted for her conscience. She can't be forced out until the legislature meets and the governor has said he won't call a special session before they meet in January. She has very little to lose by continuing her behavior during the next few months. She might want to polish up her resume though, although I have a feeling she'll have plenty of job offers from her supporters.
....so then If I wanted a cake ...white frosting 16" X 16" X 16" with read lettering that read white power baked at the bakery owned by a black couple in thier mid to late 60's I would not be imposing on them and they should be happy to get my business ? or should I understand how they may feel about it and go to another bakery ?
Godfather.
Is it illegal for them to refuse to make the cake based on what you want it to say?
really ? what ever happened to the bakery owners that refused to bake a wedding cake for same sex ....people ? it was all over the news for a while that there was a fine and they didn't seem to have the right to refuse service anybody.....or does that rule not aply to same sex couples ?
Godfather.
did you really pause and search for a word to describe "same sex........people"?
they are people too.
that would be like me describing people of faith and act like i am searching for a word to describe what they are.
"those religious........people."
I apologize.
Godfather.
I am not sure about anyone else, but even though you apologized, I will never forget you said that.
What do you mean back on topic? Comments in this thread are no different than the comments in the article you posted. She is a religious nut job that is feeling the pinch.
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County clerk is doing what she thinks is morally correct and I do and will continue to applaud her for doing so. If we don't do gods work it will fade and the world will then turn into hell, and I'm sure no one wants that.
And posting pics with the word cunt is very degrading. How would she feel? Would you say that to her face? Didn't think so.
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I'll do some good prayers tonight and chip in with pleasing God. Maybe then I won't be so damn weird. Hey... wait a sec... why are you calling me 'weird'? I thought you said name calling was uncool?
For fuck's sake, JAG. Get off your high horse already. Any valid point you may have made over time (still searching) are negated by this kind of bullshit.
But keep applauding her for discrimination. You never answered my question about "knowing" what god would want, and how you could have such a firm grip on it.
I'm on a highway to hell!
What if someone was using their _______(anything but Christian) beliefs to deny licenses to _______.
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another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Lace vs denim, but still.
They've been slow to do it... but people have started to think of the logic behind the story they've been sold. "You just need to have faith" doesn't exactly answer the tough questions. At least it never did for me.
Answering tough questions. Seems to be a challenging thing for some.
Could someone please give a clear, definitive job description of what God's work is? I'm being serious. It seems that the wording is vague enough that many people interpret how they wish and use it to justify whatever actions they take. A clear description would be most helpful and greatly appreciated. Please and thank you.
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Growing up and even now, it seemed to me that god was / is about love, embracing, comforting...not dividing...not inspiring fear or one who'd coerce people to "do the right thing" because it'd leave them up high vs kindness for its own sake.
Guessing the JAG'ged one won't address this or lo, the many other comments and questions made?
Totally willing to allow for response time.
Aaaand....GO!
I guess it's pretty ridiculous of me to expect any kind of logical comment or answer from you about anything at this point, but I keep hoping. I do actually think that you are just a very creative troll who loves to say whatever you feel will get people irritated (i picture you sitting at the computer and chuckling and cackling over how gullible we all are), but even so, I am curious to see what you can come up with as an answer to that question.
I think that woman has no business in a job where she can't separate her religion from her work.
What PJSoul just said, "How do you justify your idea that personal religious belief has any place in government and how the law defines and serves equal rights, and how do you reconcile it with your own apparent respect of the Constitution in other regards? For example, how can you possibly defend your right to free speech or right to bear arms, while supporting opposition to the Constitution based on your religious beliefs?"
Amen.
Davis has a pretty good gig. She gets a very good salary in a locale where there aren't a lot of job opportunities, from what I can tell. She still collects her salary for the time she spent in jail. Why should she resign? Even if she's sent back to jail, she still gets paid while claiming that she's persecuted for her conscience. She can't be forced out until the legislature meets and the governor has said he won't call a special session before they meet in January. She has very little to lose by continuing her behavior during the next few months. She might want to polish up her resume though, although I have a feeling she'll have plenty of job offers from her supporters.
Godfather.
Godfather.