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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    rgambs said:

    Godfather. said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Godfather. said:

    HAHHAHHAHHAHHAHA I just love a good laugh ! thank you.

    Godfather.

    Care to elaborate on what you find humourous?

    a hand full of people on here have no more than insults to add to this topic
    and they talk about equal rights but only see and agree with the rights of the party they feel has been wronged, anger is a funny thing, I believe if you read all the posts on this thread you will see a mirror image of just about every topic brought forth to the train from muslim terrorist to gays and Christians and when they try to take thier point to an extreem they bash the Christain faith or talk about the bigots who don't agree with them, this hand full of people are a prime example of what they feel is wrong with the world to start with and that's why total world peace is imposible in the big picture, I realize this is just a forum with no real solution to any propblems (and it's probably a good thing) but sometimes I just have to laugh at the hand full.

    Godfather.

    You don't seem to understand things, no matter how many times they are explained. It is not incumbent on anyone to except anyone elses bigotry, and respect is earned not given. Racists, bigots, thieves, predators...they all deserve our disdain and it is not at all the same thing to hate a hater as it is to hate someone who hasn't given cause.
    Exactly, thank you. But I'm sensing that GF is literally incapable of grasping this concept, since he just keeps saying the same shit, and keeps getting the same reply.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    Bentleyspop said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    and I can't comment on the jail thing. I don't know enough about those laws to understand why she was in contempt of court instead of a just a deadbeat not doing her job, requiring dismissal.

    As an elected official she could not be dismissed. She could only be removed by being voted outnof office or removed by impeachment (I think).

    She was jailed because she continued to defy a judge's order to sign off on all marriages. The therefore she was in contempt of court which is a jailable offense.
    She should be impeached.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    riotgrl said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    and I can't comment on the jail thing. I don't know enough about those laws to understand why she was in contempt of court instead of a just a deadbeat not doing her job, requiring dismissal.

    County clerks in KY are elected officials. And as someone mentioned earlier, they can only be dismissed by state leg. or governor. Both the AG, Conway, and the Governor, Beshear, have elected to do nothing. Conway is running for Governor and Beshears son is running for AG. State leg. is primarily conservative so most are on her side, or at the very least, not willing to piss off the conservative constituency in this state. Most people outside Louisville, the states largest city, are really conservative even if they say the are Dems.
    well they should get a spine and do what's just: she defied the law she swore to obey and uphold (I assume she had to swear on something if she is an elected official). if that's not a dismissable offense, not sure what is.

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,762
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    and I can't comment on the jail thing. I don't know enough about those laws to understand why she was in contempt of court instead of a just a deadbeat not doing her job, requiring dismissal.

    Elected official. Cant be fired in the normal sense.

    Ordered by the court to issue. She still refused. Was found in contempt of court. Judge felt a fine was insufficient. Jailed until she would comply with original order .my guess is all couples who were getting a license had done so.

    Since the office was issuing licenses she was released and ordered to mot interfere.
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    she could report to work: drunk, 9/16 nuts on crack smoke, eating paint chips, sticking a finger up her nose, eating raw eggs backwards, standing on her head w/ the kentucky headhunters blaring in her ear-buds, sniff the sheriff's chair & other odd behaviors & never be dismissed of her position

    she'd be sent to drug & alcohol rehab & whatever mental health counseling needed

































    she eats paint chips
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    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
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  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    riotgrl said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    and I can't comment on the jail thing. I don't know enough about those laws to understand why she was in contempt of court instead of a just a deadbeat not doing her job, requiring dismissal.

    County clerks in KY are elected officials. And as someone mentioned earlier, they can only be dismissed by state leg. or governor. Both the AG, Conway, and the Governor, Beshear, have elected to do nothing. Conway is running for Governor and Beshears son is running for AG. State leg. is primarily conservative so most are on her side, or at the very least, not willing to piss off the conservative constituency in this state. Most people outside Louisville, the states largest city, are really conservative even if they say the are Dems.
    well they should get a spine and do what's just: she defied the law she swore to obey and uphold (I assume she had to swear on something if she is an elected official). if that's not a dismissable offense, not sure what is.

    Ironically, I bet she had to swear on the bible!

  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    ....so then If I wanted a cake ...white frosting 16" X 16" X 16" with read lettering that read white power baked at the bakery owned by a black couple in thier mid to late 60's I would not be imposing on them and they should be happy to get my business ? or should I understand how they may feel about it and go to another bakery ?

    Godfather.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    Godfather. said:

    ....so then If I wanted a cake ...white frosting 16" X 16" X 16" with read lettering that read white power baked at the bakery owned by a black couple in thier mid to late 60's I would not be imposing on them and they should be happy to get my business ? or should I understand how they may feel about it and go to another bakery ?

    Godfather.

    Is it illegal for them to refuse to make the cake based on what you want it to say?
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    not the same thing, gf

    the bakery you speak of has a right to refuse service to anyone, the county clerk's office can not play that card
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,956
    Godfather. said:

    ....so then If I wanted a cake ...white frosting 16" X 16" X 16" with read lettering that read white power baked at the bakery owned by a black couple in thier mid to late 60's I would not be imposing on them and they should be happy to get my business ? or should I understand how they may feel about it and go to another bakery ?

    Godfather.

    asked again - how would you feel if someone denied you the right to purchase a gun because of their religious beliefs?
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    chadwick said:

    not the same thing, gf

    the bakery you speak of has a right to refuse service to anyone, the county clerk's office can not play that card

    Also, not legally, but just philosophically, it's not comparable. The request for the cake is synonymous with sending a hate message to the black bakers (I have no idea why them being in their 60s is a fact you threw in there GF), as well as asking them to participate in that hate message. It's like asking a Jewish tailor to sew a swastika and an SS symbol into a crest on a jacket. Two gay people going in and asking for a marriage license isn't a request for a message of hate or a message of hate aimed at the license issuer.
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    what pj_soul said
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Godfather. said:

    ....so then If I wanted a cake ...white frosting 16" X 16" X 16" with read lettering that read white power baked at the bakery owned by a black couple in thier mid to late 60's I would not be imposing on them and they should be happy to get my business ? or should I understand how they may feel about it and go to another bakery ?

    Godfather.

    Godfather,
    I don't know if you are stirring the pot as it is something I never ever do so I wouldn't know.
    However
    There are things people can and should not do.

    Things people can do: 1. Get a same-sex marriage licence legally.
    Things people should not do: 1. Break the law. 2. Intentionally spew hate.

  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    Godfather. said:

    ....so then If I wanted a cake ...white frosting 16" X 16" X 16" with read lettering that read white power baked at the bakery owned by a black couple in thier mid to late 60's I would not be imposing on them and they should be happy to get my business ? or should I understand how they may feel about it and go to another bakery ?

    Godfather.

    they might just assume you were heading to Jack White's birthday party.

    as what others have said. it's about the law, not about hurting feelings.

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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    jnimhaoileoin said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    riotgrl said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    and I can't comment on the jail thing. I don't know enough about those laws to understand why she was in contempt of court instead of a just a deadbeat not doing her job, requiring dismissal.

    County clerks in KY are elected officials. And as someone mentioned earlier, they can only be dismissed by state leg. or governor. Both the AG, Conway, and the Governor, Beshear, have elected to do nothing. Conway is running for Governor and Beshears son is running for AG. State leg. is primarily conservative so most are on her side, or at the very least, not willing to piss off the conservative constituency in this state. Most people outside Louisville, the states largest city, are really conservative even if they say the are Dems.
    well they should get a spine and do what's just: she defied the law she swore to obey and uphold (I assume she had to swear on something if she is an elected official). if that's not a dismissable offense, not sure what is.

    Ironically, I bet she had to swear on the bible!

    "So help me God."

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,762
    then there is this clusterfuck in the making.....


    http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/oath-keepers-vow-to-defend-oath-breaking-kim-davis-with-guns-from-dictator-judge/

    hey dumbfucks, maybe you should bone up a little on the law, court procedure, and how things ACTUALLY work.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    mickeyrat said:

    then there is this clusterfuck in the making.....


    http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/oath-keepers-vow-to-defend-oath-breaking-kim-davis-with-guns-from-dictator-judge/

    hey dumbfucks, maybe you should bone up a little on the law, court procedure, and how things ACTUALLY work.

    what fucking idiots. or not? a group gets free spotlight and more members as a result. hmmmm....

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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,973
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fox-news-kim-davis_55eee6e8e4b03784e27665d9?cps=gravity_2246_-4067673823643589748

    Breathtaking...and sad, all at once. Back to law school for that one.
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    Kat said:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fox-news-kim-davis_55eee6e8e4b03784e27665d9?cps=gravity_2246_-4067673823643589748

    Breathtaking...and sad, all at once. Back to law school for that one.

    What's really breathtaking and sad is that that headline is completely reasonable, everyone understands what it implies, and Fox is the biggest, most viewed news network in America. :confounded:
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    mickeyrat said:

    then there is this clusterfuck in the making.....


    http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/oath-keepers-vow-to-defend-oath-breaking-kim-davis-with-guns-from-dictator-judge/

    hey dumbfucks, maybe you should bone up a little on the law, court procedure, and how things ACTUALLY work.

    Y'all Qaeda, stomping on the constitution since a black guy was sworn in.

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