What the hell happen in Virginia??

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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954

    Where is the resilience in people?

    Why, when facing a personal struggle, do people feel that this is a reasonable option?

    How have people lost the will to fight through the tough times instead of giving up like this pathetic piece of s**t?

    Reasonable people don't think this is a reasonable option. That's why only unreasonable, unstable people do something like this.
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  • What of the woman the crew was filming?

    I believe she wasn't hurt and we can be thankful for that... but imagine what she's going through right now.

    She was shot as well.
    Is in hospital in critical condition
    Expected to survive
    Fak.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954

    racism ? a white camraman and a white reporter killed by a black man with a racism complaint that was tossed out and soon after he was let go because he was a problem to work with for several co-workers, just thinking maybe it's more than a gun issue.

    Godfather.

    Wow. Gf, congratulations, you think outside of the box. Now come on back to the real world.
    do you think that it's not a possibilty or even the facts so far do not hint at a racist act ?
    but I understand, while we are all saying how sad this news is it just does not feel good to bring up racism or even gun control.

    Godfather.

    No, I haven't had k e thought of this being anything about racism. It appears to be about a disgruntled employee. It also appears that this sick fuck used racism to file several different complaints against past employers. I don't think he picked these 2 former coworkers because they were white.

    To me the better question is how an emotionally unstable person such as this was able to get a gun. Not was he racist.
    Bingo
    Wait, the guy made complaints that the reports about him to HR were racially motivated, and he called the reporter a racist.... so how is racism not an issue here?
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  • PJ_Soul said:

    Where is the resilience in people?

    Why, when facing a personal struggle, do people feel that this is a reasonable option?

    How have people lost the will to fight through the tough times instead of giving up like this pathetic piece of s**t?

    Reasonable people don't think this is a reasonable option. That's why only unreasonable, unstable people do something like this.
    Yes. And how do people reach this state of mind? How have we not prepared people to deal with adversity in some productive manner... let alone respect others and have even the most remote levels of empathy?
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,076
    PJ_Soul said:

    racism ? a white camraman and a white reporter killed by a black man with a racism complaint that was tossed out and soon after he was let go because he was a problem to work with for several co-workers, just thinking maybe it's more than a gun issue.

    Godfather.

    Wow. Gf, congratulations, you think outside of the box. Now come on back to the real world.
    do you think that it's not a possibilty or even the facts so far do not hint at a racist act ?
    but I understand, while we are all saying how sad this news is it just does not feel good to bring up racism or even gun control.

    Godfather.

    No, I haven't had k e thought of this being anything about racism. It appears to be about a disgruntled employee. It also appears that this sick fuck used racism to file several different complaints against past employers. I don't think he picked these 2 former coworkers because they were white.

    To me the better question is how an emotionally unstable person such as this was able to get a gun. Not was he racist.
    Bingo
    Wait, the guy made complaints that the reports about him to HR were racially motivated, and he called the reporter a racist.... so how is racism not an issue here?
    I don't think that info was out yet (or had just dropped), when that conversation was had.

    Now with that info, there is a clearly racial motivation here.

  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    PJ_Soul said:

    racism ? a white camraman and a white reporter killed by a black man with a racism complaint that was tossed out and soon after he was let go because he was a problem to work with for several co-workers, just thinking maybe it's more than a gun issue.

    Godfather.

    Wow. Gf, congratulations, you think outside of the box. Now come on back to the real world.
    do you think that it's not a possibilty or even the facts so far do not hint at a racist act ?
    but I understand, while we are all saying how sad this news is it just does not feel good to bring up racism or even gun control.

    Godfather.

    No, I haven't had k e thought of this being anything about racism. It appears to be about a disgruntled employee. It also appears that this sick fuck used racism to file several different complaints against past employers. I don't think he picked these 2 former coworkers because they were white.

    To me the better question is how an emotionally unstable person such as this was able to get a gun. Not was he racist.
    Bingo
    Wait, the guy made complaints that the reports about him to HR were racially motivated, and he called the reporter a racist.... so how is racism not an issue here?
    I just don't see how it makes a bit of difference if this was motivated by race.

    The bigger question as stated was...

    To me the better question is how an emotionally unstable person such as this was able to get a gun. Not was he racist
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    Some people reject all help offered to them, so just because someone didn't get help, it doesn't mean it wasn't available.
    And some people are just crazypants.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    racism ? a white camraman and a white reporter killed by a black man with a racism complaint that was tossed out and soon after he was let go because he was a problem to work with for several co-workers, just thinking maybe it's more than a gun issue.

    Godfather.

    Wow. Gf, congratulations, you think outside of the box. Now come on back to the real world.
    do you think that it's not a possibilty or even the facts so far do not hint at a racist act ?
    but I understand, while we are all saying how sad this news is it just does not feel good to bring up racism or even gun control.

    Godfather.

    No, I haven't had k e thought of this being anything about racism. It appears to be about a disgruntled employee. It also appears that this sick fuck used racism to file several different complaints against past employers. I don't think he picked these 2 former coworkers because they were white.

    To me the better question is how an emotionally unstable person such as this was able to get a gun. Not was he racist.
    Just think about how many demented folks are out there that have weapons and are an episode away from doing shit like this ....
    good point but if these people want to kill they will use another method.

    Godfather.

    What method?

    And why do people not die as often in "another method" in other countries?
    home made bombs, knives, poison even thier bare hands, there are many ways to kill and getting rid of guns in the US would only create a black market for weapons and home made weapons then you would have more criminals with guns than good people, the number of unregistered guns in the US must be in the millions and that on top of the registered gun owners, you seem to think of yourself as an intelligent person..how easy is it make a gun in your work shop ? with a piece of pipe ?, before shell style rounds it was black powder and a lead ball shot out of a piece of pipe, we have bow and arrow, crossbows, spears and things as simple as a sharp stick, this is America and this country and it's people will never give up our guns no matter how much none gun owners snivle and cry, but I think you know that.

    Godfather.


  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    I wonder how many time people have said to GF that no one is trying to stop people from having guns on these boards? 100? 1000? I wonder when it will sink into GF's head? Maybe 2000 times will do it?
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275

    racism ? a white camraman and a white reporter killed by a black man with a racism complaint that was tossed out and soon after he was let go because he was a problem to work with for several co-workers, just thinking maybe it's more than a gun issue.

    Godfather.

    Wow. Gf, congratulations, you think outside of the box. Now come on back to the real world.
    do you think that it's not a possibilty or even the facts so far do not hint at a racist act ?
    but I understand, while we are all saying how sad this news is it just does not feel good to bring up racism or even gun control.

    Godfather.

    No, I haven't had k e thought of this being anything about racism. It appears to be about a disgruntled employee. It also appears that this sick fuck used racism to file several different complaints against past employers. I don't think he picked these 2 former coworkers because they were white.

    To me the better question is how an emotionally unstable person such as this was able to get a gun. Not was he racist.
    Just think about how many demented folks are out there that have weapons and are an episode away from doing shit like this ....
    good point but if these people want to kill they will use another method.

    Godfather.

    What method?

    And why do people not die as often in "another method" in other countries?
    home made bombs, knives, poison even thier bare hands, there are many ways to kill and getting rid of guns in the US would only create a black market for weapons and home made weapons then you would have more criminals with guns than good people, the number of unregistered guns in the US must be in the millions and that on top of the registered gun owners, you seem to think of yourself as an intelligent person..how easy is it make a gun in your work shop ? with a piece of pipe ?, before shell style rounds it was black powder and a lead ball shot out of a piece of pipe, we have bow and arrow, crossbows, spears and things as simple as a sharp stick, this is America and this country and it's people will never give up our guns no matter how much none gun owners snivle and cry, but I think you know that.

    Godfather.


    no one is proposing banning guns...no one has ever proposed that to my knowledge
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  • racism ? a white camraman and a white reporter killed by a black man with a racism complaint that was tossed out and soon after he was let go because he was a problem to work with for several co-workers, just thinking maybe it's more than a gun issue.

    Godfather.

    Wow. Gf, congratulations, you think outside of the box. Now come on back to the real world.
    do you think that it's not a possibilty or even the facts so far do not hint at a racist act ?
    but I understand, while we are all saying how sad this news is it just does not feel good to bring up racism or even gun control.

    Godfather.

    No, I haven't had k e thought of this being anything about racism. It appears to be about a disgruntled employee. It also appears that this sick fuck used racism to file several different complaints against past employers. I don't think he picked these 2 former coworkers because they were white.

    To me the better question is how an emotionally unstable person such as this was able to get a gun. Not was he racist.
    Just think about how many demented folks are out there that have weapons and are an episode away from doing shit like this ....
    good point but if these people want to kill they will use another method.

    Godfather.

    What method?

    And why do people not die as often in "another method" in other countries?
    home made bombs, knives, poison even thier bare hands, there are many ways to kill and getting rid of guns in the US would only create a black market for weapons and home made weapons then you would have more criminals with guns than good people, the number of unregistered guns in the US must be in the millions and that on top of the registered gun owners, you seem to think of yourself as an intelligent person..how easy is it make a gun in your work shop ? with a piece of pipe ?, before shell style rounds it was black powder and a lead ball shot out of a piece of pipe, we have bow and arrow, crossbows, spears and things as simple as a sharp stick, this is America and this country and it's people will never give up our guns no matter how much none gun owners snivle and cry, but I think you know that.

    Godfather.


    Lead 'em to a cliff and push 'em off too, Godfather. Don't forget about that one.

    None gun owners snivle and cry?

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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    PJ_Soul said:

    I wonder how many time people have said to GF that no one is trying to stop people from having guns on these boards? 100? 1000? I wonder when it will sink into GF's head? Maybe 2000 times will do it?

    exactly....and how many of us that own guns have to keep saying "hey we own guns and we are for stricter control" until it sinks in?

    GF must smoke tons of weed. His short term memory is gone.

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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    edited August 2015

    racism ? a white camraman and a white reporter killed by a black man with a racism complaint that was tossed out and soon after he was let go because he was a problem to work with for several co-workers, just thinking maybe it's more than a gun issue.

    Godfather.

    Wow. Gf, congratulations, you think outside of the box. Now come on back to the real world.
    do you think that it's not a possibilty or even the facts so far do not hint at a racist act ?
    but I understand, while we are all saying how sad this news is it just does not feel good to bring up racism or even gun control.

    Godfather.

    No, I haven't had k e thought of this being anything about racism. It appears to be about a disgruntled employee. It also appears that this sick fuck used racism to file several different complaints against past employers. I don't think he picked these 2 former coworkers because they were white.

    To me the better question is how an emotionally unstable person such as this was able to get a gun. Not was he racist.
    Just think about how many demented folks are out there that have weapons and are an episode away from doing shit like this ....
    good point but if these people want to kill they will use another method.

    Godfather.

    What method?

    And why do people not die as often in "another method" in other countries?
    home made bombs, knives, poison even thier bare hands, there are many ways to kill and getting rid of guns in the US would only create a black market for weapons and home made weapons then you would have more criminals with guns than good people, the number of unregistered guns in the US must be in the millions and that on top of the registered gun owners, you seem to think of yourself as an intelligent person..how easy is it make a gun in your work shop ? with a piece of pipe ?, before shell style rounds it was black powder and a lead ball shot out of a piece of pipe, we have bow and arrow, crossbows, spears and things as simple as a sharp stick, this is America and this country and it's people will never give up our guns no matter how much none gun owners snivle and cry, but I think you know that.

    Godfather.


    So why are there not regular mass killing throughout other civilized countries at the hands of poison, knives or bare hands? If Adam Lanza went into Sandy Hook with a knife do you reckon there would be 26 dead people including 20 children

    I am pretty pretty pretty sure people would not be making bombs at the rate of multiple mass shootings a month.

    It is literally uneducated dispshits in this country with that idiotic mentality that you outline above that is literally the cause of 20 children being murdered. I partially fault people like you for 20 children being murdered and people losing family members today
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    GF, If all guns in US disappeared tomorrow do you think murders would go down?
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  • ShawshankShawshank Posts: 1,018
    Evidently this guy felt like he had been "wronged" in some way, and it was indeed at least to some extent, racially motivated.

    This may have been a turning point for me personally. I have always felt that people should have the right to own a gun for protection or hunting. I still believe that...but damn...something has to be done to get them out of the hands of the whack jobs. There has to be a balance attained, and I have no freaking clue how that could come about. Eliminating them altogether seems impossible. No matter what the gun laws are, there will always be the criminal element that will happily go on a free range shooting spree whenever they feel like it (Chicago).

    I just feel as a species we are dumber, more drugged up, and crazier than I think we've ever been. And that's taking into account the fucked up shit we did back in medieval times. I don't wear a tinfoil hat, but dammit, something has changed in us over the last 25 years or so. I don't know if it's in the food, the overabundance of prescribed anti-psychotics, or something in the water...but something is destroying us from the inside mentally.
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    Shawshank said:

    Evidently this guy felt like he had been "wronged" in some way, and it was indeed at least to some extent, racially motivated.

    This may have been a turning point for me personally. I have always felt that people should have the right to own a gun for protection or hunting. I still believe that...but damn...something has to be done to get them out of the hands of the whack jobs. There has to be a balance attained, and I have no freaking clue how that could come about. Eliminating them altogether seems impossible. No matter what the gun laws are, there will always be the criminal element that will happily go on a free range shooting spree whenever they feel like it (Chicago).

    I just feel as a species we are dumber, more drugged up, and crazier than I think we've ever been. And that's taking into account the fucked up shit we did back in medieval times. I don't wear a tinfoil hat, but dammit, something has changed in us over the last 25 years or so. I don't know if it's in the food, the overabundance of prescribed anti-psychotics, or something in the water...but something is destroying us from the inside mentally.

    Australia did it. Not impossible but highly unlikely.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    callen said:

    GF, If all guns in US disappeared tomorrow do you think murders would go down?

    yes and no butts about it, that's true with anything that causes death tho, eleminate cars and truck and watch traffic deaths decline to zero, eleminate booze and watch booze related deaths drop to zero and so on.

    Godfather.

  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840

    callen said:

    GF, If all guns in US disappeared tomorrow do you think murders would go down?

    yes and no butts about it, that's true with anything that causes death tho, eleminate cars and truck and watch traffic deaths decline to zero, eleminate booze and watch booze related deaths drop to zero and so on.

    Godfather.

    Holy shit, dude. This is beyond words.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    eliminate food and fewer people will die from choking on food

    brilliant
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,555

    eliminate food and fewer people will die from choking on food

    brilliant

    lol lol lmao that is funny .....
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  • pureocpureoc Posts: 2,383

    callen said:

    GF, If all guns in US disappeared tomorrow do you think murders would go down?

    yes and no butts about it, that's true with anything that causes death tho, eleminate cars and truck and watch traffic deaths decline to zero, eleminate booze and watch booze related deaths drop to zero and so on.

    Godfather.

    Holy shit, dude. This is beyond words.
    Sad part is his vote on serious issues like this counts just as much as yours and mine.
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  • pureoc said:

    callen said:

    GF, If all guns in US disappeared tomorrow do you think murders would go down?

    yes and no butts about it, that's true with anything that causes death tho, eleminate cars and truck and watch traffic deaths decline to zero, eleminate booze and watch booze related deaths drop to zero and so on.

    Godfather.

    Holy shit, dude. This is beyond words.
    Sad part is his vote on serious issues like this counts just as much as yours and mine.
    This is what I've been saying lately. It's an inherent flaw with democracy.

    I'm not sure absolute rule is better, but it sure pisses someone off when someone who can't spell 'cat' has as much influence as someone who's educated themselves and has a solid understanding of the issues that present themselves.

    You guys need a really kind, gentle, wise King to run your country. Leave the idiocy in the turnip fields- not steering policies.

    * No, GF... this was not a veiled insult towards you.
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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,147

    callen said:

    GF, If all guns in US disappeared tomorrow do you think murders would go down?

    yes and no butts about it, that's true with anything that causes death tho, eleminate cars and truck and watch traffic deaths decline to zero, eleminate booze and watch booze related deaths drop to zero and so on.

    Godfather.

    When innocents die in numbers that label gun assaults an EPIDEMIC, and you have a cure, why are you so damn hasty to label it unconstitutional to consider stricter gun reforms, as opposed to saying your pathetic constitutional rights - long since antiquated - ought to be revised in the interests of your country which you claim to love?
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    callen said:

    GF, If all guns in US disappeared tomorrow do you think murders would go down?

    yes and no butts about it, that's true with anything that causes death tho, eleminate cars and truck and watch traffic deaths decline to zero, eleminate booze and watch booze related deaths drop to zero and so on.

    Godfather.

    Holy shit, dude. This is beyond words.
    why ? is any of that not true ?

    Godfather.

  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    pureoc said:

    callen said:

    GF, If all guns in US disappeared tomorrow do you think murders would go down?

    yes and no butts about it, that's true with anything that causes death tho, eleminate cars and truck and watch traffic deaths decline to zero, eleminate booze and watch booze related deaths drop to zero and so on.

    Godfather.

    Holy shit, dude. This is beyond words.
    Sad part is his vote on serious issues like this counts just as much as yours and mine.
    hahhahhahah aint that a bitch, and there are millions more who feel the same way I do.

    Godfather.

  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    benjs said:

    callen said:

    GF, If all guns in US disappeared tomorrow do you think murders would go down?

    yes and no butts about it, that's true with anything that causes death tho, eleminate cars and truck and watch traffic deaths decline to zero, eleminate booze and watch booze related deaths drop to zero and so on.

    Godfather.

    When innocents die in numbers that label gun assaults an EPIDEMIC, and you have a cure, why are you so damn hasty to label it unconstitutional to consider stricter gun reforms, as opposed to saying your pathetic constitutional rights - long since antiquated - ought to be revised in the interests of your country which you claim to love?
    you live in canada ? has anybody ever estamated the amount of illegal guns in your country ? honestly I'm just curious because I'll bet there are a grip of them and murders with or without guns how many a year...1-2-200 ? more ? I know for a fact you have a few outlaw clubs in canada and you can't tell me they are unarmed.

    Godfather.

  • pureocpureoc Posts: 2,383

    pureoc said:

    callen said:

    GF, If all guns in US disappeared tomorrow do you think murders would go down?

    yes and no butts about it, that's true with anything that causes death tho, eleminate cars and truck and watch traffic deaths decline to zero, eleminate booze and watch booze related deaths drop to zero and so on.

    Godfather.

    Holy shit, dude. This is beyond words.
    Sad part is his vote on serious issues like this counts just as much as yours and mine.
    hahhahhahah aint that a bitch, and there are millions more who feel the same way I do.

    Godfather.

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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840

    callen said:

    GF, If all guns in US disappeared tomorrow do you think murders would go down?

    yes and no butts about it, that's true with anything that causes death tho, eleminate cars and truck and watch traffic deaths decline to zero, eleminate booze and watch booze related deaths drop to zero and so on.

    Godfather.

    Holy shit, dude. This is beyond words.
    why ? is any of that not true ?

    Godfather.

    I honestly can't respond to your complete idiocy any more on a day like today. It's depressing what happened and depressing that people with your opinions exist.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954

    benjs said:

    callen said:

    GF, If all guns in US disappeared tomorrow do you think murders would go down?

    yes and no butts about it, that's true with anything that causes death tho, eleminate cars and truck and watch traffic deaths decline to zero, eleminate booze and watch booze related deaths drop to zero and so on.

    Godfather.

    When innocents die in numbers that label gun assaults an EPIDEMIC, and you have a cure, why are you so damn hasty to label it unconstitutional to consider stricter gun reforms, as opposed to saying your pathetic constitutional rights - long since antiquated - ought to be revised in the interests of your country which you claim to love?
    you live in canada ? has anybody ever estamated the amount of illegal guns in your country ? honestly I'm just curious because I'll bet there are a grip of them and murders with or without guns how many a year...1-2-200 ? more ? I know for a fact you have a few outlaw clubs in canada and you can't tell me they are unarmed.

    Godfather.

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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    PJ_Soul said:

    benjs said:

    callen said:

    GF, If all guns in US disappeared tomorrow do you think murders would go down?

    yes and no butts about it, that's true with anything that causes death tho, eleminate cars and truck and watch traffic deaths decline to zero, eleminate booze and watch booze related deaths drop to zero and so on.

    Godfather.

    When innocents die in numbers that label gun assaults an EPIDEMIC, and you have a cure, why are you so damn hasty to label it unconstitutional to consider stricter gun reforms, as opposed to saying your pathetic constitutional rights - long since antiquated - ought to be revised in the interests of your country which you claim to love?
    you live in canada ? has anybody ever estamated the amount of illegal guns in your country ? honestly I'm just curious because I'll bet there are a grip of them and murders with or without guns how many a year...1-2-200 ? more ? I know for a fact you have a few outlaw clubs in canada and you can't tell me they are unarmed.

    Godfather.

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