The Debate

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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,862
    It was definitely bernie trying to lay it all out there and sly hillary just parrying every shortcoming with well rehearsed responses.

    Imo hillary didn't come across well. Im a bernie fan... also thought omalley was decent
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,415
    MayDay10 said:

    It was definitely bernie trying to lay it all out there and sly hillary just parrying every shortcoming with well rehearsed responses.

    Imo hillary didn't come across well. Im a bernie fan... also thought omalley was decent

    bernie definitely went for it. swung for the fences. told the people how they could donate directly to his campaign. nice way to do that, especially saying he does not have a superpac.

    hillary came off kind of snarky at times from what i saw.

    i was impressed with omalley a bit.

    webb, polling at a nice .5% complained he was not getting enough time. when he said something i asked myself, "why is this guy on the democratic debate stage again?"
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,862
    She just seemed way too robotic and rehearsed.

    Bernie and to a lesser extent omalley... even Webb, speak and look like they really care about their positions. Hillary can't take a position on legal pot at this point? Really?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,674
    Good debate all around.

    When asked what our biggest threat to domestic security is (maybe not those exact words) only Sanders mentioned climate change. True, this is not the first thing most would say or think of but I was hugely impressed that Bernie said this. He gets it that in a world inhabitable for most or all humans, all other issues cease to exist.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Sorry kids,I don't see how this country actually gets better with Larry David(Sanders) as President.I get why he wants some of his positions and I agree with a few of his positions(Climate Change for one)
    But I don't see the other side working with him.His Foriegn policy ,mainly his more hands off approach ,being not proactive scares me when dealing with Russia and China.I believe he would be too soft.
    And I agree with Hillary on her point ,we are not Norway,Denmark or Sweden.You can't compare.
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,862
    Im not voting for sanders expecting universal health care and the banning and confiscation of weapons.

    But if he can get elected, and in a 4 year term shine a lot of light on... if not reform the foundation of all his positions: the constant funneling of silly money from corporations to politicians to buy them off... then it will have been the most important term in modern history.
  • rr165892 said:

    Sorry kids,I don't see how this country actually gets better with Larry David(Sanders) as President.I get why he wants some of his positions and I agree with a few of his positions(Climate Change for one)
    But I don't see the other side working with him.His Foriegn policy ,mainly his more hands off approach ,being not proactive scares me when dealing with Russia and China.I believe he would be too soft.
    And I agree with Hillary on her point ,we are not Norway,Denmark or Sweden.You can't compare.

    Do you really see republicans keeping the house this next time around? I think voters are gonna clean house in congress and the democrat who wins will have a much easier time than people think.
    looking to hear of the earth
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697

    rr165892 said:

    Sorry kids,I don't see how this country actually gets better with Larry David(Sanders) as President.I get why he wants some of his positions and I agree with a few of his positions(Climate Change for one)
    But I don't see the other side working with him.His Foriegn policy ,mainly his more hands off approach ,being not proactive scares me when dealing with Russia and China.I believe he would be too soft.
    And I agree with Hillary on her point ,we are not Norway,Denmark or Sweden.You can't compare.

    Do you really see republicans keeping the house this next time around? I think voters are gonna clean house in congress and the democrat who wins will have a much easier time than people think.
    Yes,I think they will actually have some juice going into this next term
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,674
    MayDay10 said:

    Im not voting for sanders expecting universal health care and the banning and confiscation of weapons.

    But if he can get elected, and in a 4 year term shine a lot of light on... if not reform the foundation of all his positions: the constant funneling of silly money from corporations to politicians to buy them off... then it will have been the most important term in modern history.

    Sanders is not going to ban or confiscate weapons. He's pretty clear on that.

    Yes, if he is elected we hopefully will see some major changes in terms of politicians being bought and id that happens, it will be monumental!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    ohhhhhhhh the next election will be a hoot for sure, this place is going to light up like a Roman candle ! who ever wins, Sanders, The Donald, Hell'ary, or some long shot this place will really come to life LOL !!!! and I shall enjoy the ride !

    Godfather.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,415
    rr165892 said:

    rr165892 said:

    Sorry kids,I don't see how this country actually gets better with Larry David(Sanders) as President.I get why he wants some of his positions and I agree with a few of his positions(Climate Change for one)
    But I don't see the other side working with him.His Foriegn policy ,mainly his more hands off approach ,being not proactive scares me when dealing with Russia and China.I believe he would be too soft.
    And I agree with Hillary on her point ,we are not Norway,Denmark or Sweden.You can't compare.

    Do you really see republicans keeping the house this next time around? I think voters are gonna clean house in congress and the democrat who wins will have a much easier time than people think.
    Yes,I think they will actually have some juice going into this next term
    really?

    that is interesting.

    their benghazi committee has been exposed for the sham it is, and all their candidates seem to want to talk about is how obama is terribile and how their favorite bible verse will guide their leadership.

    there is no comparison between the two parties.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Another Republican debate tonight! This one should be interesting. It is in Boulder, CO, so I imagine there will be a bit of focus on weed legalization, which makes most of them a little jumpy. They're all happy to talk about states rights (when it doesn't apply to gay marriage), but most don't want to spend too much time discussing the actual issue of legalization.

    It will also be interesting to see how Trump goes after Carson, since Trump's lead has slipped. Trump will probably attempt to smack him down any chance he gets. Carson has said a lot of stupid things over the past few weeks, so there is plenty of fodder for Trump, although he creates plenty of his own that can be used against him.

    I'm personally interested in seeing how Kasich responds today. Apparently he blew up at a rally and speech in Ohio yesterday, and is clearly not happy with the shit-show his party has become. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/28/1441555/-GOP-Presidential-Candidate-goes-ballistic-What-has-happened-to-our-Party?)#

    As a former GOP supporter, I can tell you that I felt the same way 30+ years ago when the fundies started taking over the party and turned caucuses and conventions into religious revivals. Unfortunately, I agree with the article's closing paragraph: "John Kasich's explosion of justifiable disdain for what his party has become may seem bold to many. The reality of the state of the Republican Party makes his utterances likely fatal. He likely will not be the Republican nominee." The one disagreement I have with that last sentence is the inclusion of "likely".

    Anyway, load your bowls, fill your glasses, and get ready for another tragic comedy.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    I'm with you.I lean right,but hate the fundamental BS.I assume others do also,which explains some of Trumps shine.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,415
    jeffbr said:

    Another Republican debate tonight! This one should be interesting. It is in Boulder, CO, so I imagine there will be a bit of focus on weed legalization, which makes most of them a little jumpy. They're all happy to talk about states rights (when it doesn't apply to gay marriage), but most don't want to spend too much time discussing the actual issue of legalization.

    It will also be interesting to see how Trump goes after Carson, since Trump's lead has slipped. Trump will probably attempt to smack him down any chance he gets. Carson has said a lot of stupid things over the past few weeks, so there is plenty of fodder for Trump, although he creates plenty of his own that can be used against him.

    I'm personally interested in seeing how Kasich responds today. Apparently he blew up at a rally and speech in Ohio yesterday, and is clearly not happy with the shit-show his party has become. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/28/1441555/-GOP-Presidential-Candidate-goes-ballistic-What-has-happened-to-our-Party?)#

    As a former GOP supporter, I can tell you that I felt the same way 30+ years ago when the fundies started taking over the party and turned caucuses and conventions into religious revivals. Unfortunately, I agree with the article's closing paragraph: "John Kasich's explosion of justifiable disdain for what his party has become may seem bold to many. The reality of the state of the Republican Party makes his utterances likely fatal. He likely will not be the Republican nominee." The one disagreement I have with that last sentence is the inclusion of "likely".

    Anyway, load your bowls, fill your glasses, and get ready for another tragic comedy.

    i saw they were all bitching about the size of their green rooms. trump had a big one. fiorino had a jaccuzi in hers. christie and rand paul's were essentially a restroom including the toilet.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Think anyone got liquored up beforehand?
  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    hedonist said:

    Think anyone got liquored up beforehand?

    I'm not watching but probably everyone, especially Trump. He seems drunk a lot.
  • Enkidu
    Enkidu So Cal Posts: 2,996
    Somebody on Twitter said they thought Ben Carson seemed stoned. I haven't heard him talk in a while so I don't know.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Cruz made a "joke" about pot brownies.

    Shit, I'd partake if I were one of them. Funny kind of truth serum.

    Whoa whoa whoa, just fully saw Trump's hair. Did it move further down his forehead or is it just me and my weed game?
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I decided to use a one-word bowl-hitting trigger.

    "Tax".

    Brutal, man!