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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    brianlux said:

    These people running Blacklivesmatter are ruining any chance they have of getting anyone other than their own True Believer types on board with what they are trying to do. They can't even give a good answer for why they chose to single out Sanders instead of one of the other loser candidates. Very disappointing.

    http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/bernie-sanders-event-shut-down-black-lives-matter-activists

    So true.So there pissed off because he stated"All lives matter" in an interview last week.Do they think that all lives don't matter?
    Stupid ridiculous shit.This kind of over the top activism is actually setting there"movement" backward.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,661
    rr165892 said:

    brianlux said:

    These people running Blacklivesmatter are ruining any chance they have of getting anyone other than their own True Believer types on board with what they are trying to do. They can't even give a good answer for why they chose to single out Sanders instead of one of the other loser candidates. Very disappointing.

    http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/bernie-sanders-event-shut-down-black-lives-matter-activists

    So true.So there pissed off because he stated"All lives matter" in an interview last week.Do they think that all lives don't matter?
    Stupid ridiculous shit.This kind of over the top activism is actually setting there"movement" backward.
    That's how I see it, rr. Take your cause the one of the people who is most likely to support you, piss on them and piss off them and their supporters and then not even be able to clearly explain your actions. WTF is wrong with these people?

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,661
    edited August 2015
    After the rude and ill advised shut down of Sanders speaking engagement in Seattle, Bernie rocked the house in Portland as nearly 30,000 people showed up to see him speak. Go Bernie!

    http://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/08/10/bringing-people-together-big-time-sanders-attracts-tens-thousands
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  • RiotZact
    RiotZact Posts: 6,292
    Woah, I can't post the link because I'm on my phone but I just read an article about a NH poll with a 4.7% margin of error showing that Bernie is beating Hilary 44 to 37. It's on now.
  • Asterisk on the Street
    Asterisk on the Street Posts: 849
    Go Bernie! Los Angeles Rally with 27,000+ showing up.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DSWD1v6cHI
  • Asterisk on the Street
    Asterisk on the Street Posts: 849
    RiotZact said:

    Woah, I can't post the link because I'm on my phone but I just read an article about a NH poll with a 4.7% margin of error showing that Bernie is beating Hilary 44 to 37. It's on now.

    I saw that New Hampshire poll too. Here is the link:

    https://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/us_politics/2015/08/bernie_sanders_surges_ahead_of_hillary_clinton_in_nh_44_37

    "Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders has rocketed past longtime front-runner Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire, a stunning turn in a race once considered a lock for the former secretary of state, a new Franklin Pierce University/Boston Herald poll shows."

  • RiotZact
    RiotZact Posts: 6,292
    Thanks for posting the link! America is starting to feel the Bern!
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    This feels so much like the Ron Paul / Dennis Kucinich early primary run before 08.
    False hope.
    I think that election cycle is what broke me politically, turned me into a cynic. Hope I'm wrong.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,661
    Asterisk on the Street said:

    RiotZact said:

    Woah, I can't post the link because I'm on my phone but I just read an article about a NH poll with a 4.7% margin of error showing that Bernie is beating Hilary 44 to 37. It's on now.

    I saw that New Hampshire poll too. Here is the link:

    https://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/us_politics/2015/08/bernie_sanders_surges_ahead_of_hillary_clinton_in_nh_44_37

    "Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders has rocketed past longtime front-runner Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire, a stunning turn in a race once considered a lock for the former secretary of state, a new Franklin Pierce University/Boston Herald poll shows."

    Thanks for links, Astrisk and RiotZact!

    I don't have all the data in front of me but I've read various accounts of how Bernie is rocketing in several polls and of course the turns outs for his speeches are phenomenal. This is happening! :smile:

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,661
    Drowned Out said:

    This feels so much like the Ron Paul / Dennis Kucinich early primary run before 08.
    False hope.
    I think that election cycle is what broke me politically, turned me into a cynic. Hope I'm wrong.

    Ah! Perfect timing to post this article. Hold on- back in a second...

    here it is:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/almost-every-major-poll-shows-bernie-sanders_b_7937906.html

    I like what the author, H. A. Goodman says here:

    "Luckily, there are a great many other voters willing to imagine a future without Wall Street greed and rampant income inequality. Fortunately, "Bernie Sanders Can Become President" has replaced "I like him but he can't win.""

    I wonder if we gave up on Kucinich to easily? Hard to say. But the impression I get is that Sanders has both a much swifter growth of support and good charisma to go along with a clear and strong commitment to what he believes. I'm a lot more hopeful this time.



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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    I've had Bernie on my mind as a possibility but I just can't help but wait to hear what comes next with this deal, but the one good thing about it all.....obama and his wife will be out !

    Godfather.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    Whether or not the numbers hold, the new poll numbers from New Hampshire are a good sign. The best thing for the Democratic Party this time around would be Bernie and/or the rest of the field providing Hillary with a serious challenge.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    Drowned Out said:

    This feels so much like the Ron Paul / Dennis Kucinich early primary run before 08.
    False hope.
    I think that election cycle is what broke me politically, turned me into a cynic. Hope I'm wrong.

    The Democratic Party will do all they can to crush Bernie.
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    edited August 2015
    Jason P said:

    Drowned Out said:

    This feels so much like the Ron Paul / Dennis Kucinich early primary run before 08.
    False hope.
    I think that election cycle is what broke me politically, turned me into a cynic. Hope I'm wrong.

    The Democratic Party will do all they can to crush Bernie.
    Totally agree....and the GOP will try to crush Trump. Just like Paul/Kucinich.
    Which makes all of this seem like a sideshow - placates people by making them think their concerns are being heard. Then the rug gets pulled from under these 'men of the people', and you are left with the establishment choices - the people who have been able to dodge the tough topics because all of the people who push for reform spent months proselytizing their champion.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Seem like a sideshow?

    It IS. It's a circus, ringmasters, performers and all.

    (now if only the elephants clowns would rebel)
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Hate to say this but Bernie won't draw votes in general election. Many won't be motivated to take the time and vote for an old white man to which they have little in common. Sucks. Hope I'm wrong.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,661
    callen said:

    Hate to say this but Bernie won't draw votes in general election. Many won't be motivated to take the time and vote for an old white man to which they have little in common. Sucks. Hope I'm wrong.

    I hope so too, Callen. I think people are looking for someone to get them inspired again. Can Bernie do that? It's a bit too early to say, but judging from the response of the crowds lately it sure looks possible. And he's for the average person, the you and me who work hard and wonder how things are going to pan out for us as the years roll along while those big corporate "persons" keep getting bigger and fatter. People are tired of seeing that happen. Sanders could be their hope and that's what they're looking for.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    edited August 2015
    callen said:

    Hate to say this but Bernie won't draw votes in general election. Many won't be motivated to take the time and vote for an old white man to which they have little in common. Sucks. Hope I'm wrong.

    People in this country usually vote for old white men who they have little in common with. :wink:

    I get what you are saying, though.

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  • ldent42
    ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    I've heard people voice concern that even if Bernie could get elected he wouldnt have the political standing to get anything done as president, because both Dems and Reps would be blocking him. Whereas like Obama for example mostly had Reps blocking him, Bernie would have to deal with it from both parties.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    JimmyV said:

    callen said:

    Hate to say this but Bernie won't draw votes in general election. Many won't be motivated to take the time and vote for an old white man to which they have little in common. Sucks. Hope I'm wrong.

    People in this country usually vote for old white men who they have little in common with. :wink:

    I get what you are saying, though.

    Yeah but getting the voters that turned out for Obama will be the key. I have Hope.

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