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  • whispering hands
    whispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527

    Stampy1 said:
    I agree with one of the point ts made here. The post should be removed simply due to triggers it may cause. I understand that it may be more comfortable to talk to people here rather than in person. But pm's may be more appropriate.

    I hope that everyone here knows that if they feel like they need to speak out, that they can pm me or mostly anyone here. It is definitely a start. Just know that somewhere in my response is going to be "go see a doctor immediately, please." Also that I'm going to do everything I can to contact someone you know and that can get to you quickly.
    That is the best way to handle this^^^^^^.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    So this was a good healthy conversation and great points made and though many didn't like being challenged on their advice we all now agree seeing Dr next week and just giving some "support" doesn't cut it. That is where the conversation was going initially.

    We have the craving to nurture but on this serious subject our seemingly helpful advice may indeed not be so.

    I hope the OP is okay and agree reaching out is the best thing even on board but then replyers need to understand their true limitations AND their motivations on wanting to help and risks.

    My opinion I know.

    Peace
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    callen said:

    So this was a good healthy conversation and great points made and though many didn't like being challenged on their advice we all now agree seeing Dr next week and just giving some "support" doesn't cut it. That is where the conversation was going initially.

    We have the craving to nurture but on this serious subject our seemingly helpful advice may indeed not be so.

    I hope the OP is okay and agree reaching out is the best thing even on board but then replyers need to understand their true limitations AND their motivations on wanting to help and risks.

    My opinion I know.

    Peace

    Sorry callen, but I just re-read the first three posts and all said to talk to a doctor "now" or "asap" (full disclosure - that includes my post). Quite possible the next ones did as well, but I didn't continue to scroll down. The additional suggestions/information were to complement, not replace, that.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I think we all realize we're keyboards away; how is offering support and confirming the need to see one's therapists, doctors, etc. not helpful? We get the limitations. Well, I do. I'm sure the recipient(s) do as well.

    As to what propels those actions, they're on us and no one else to accurately judge what moves us to reach out.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,760

    callen said:

    So this was a good healthy conversation and great points made and though many didn't like being challenged on their advice we all now agree seeing Dr next week and just giving some "support" doesn't cut it. That is where the conversation was going initially.

    We have the craving to nurture but on this serious subject our seemingly helpful advice may indeed not be so.

    I hope the OP is okay and agree reaching out is the best thing even on board but then replyers need to understand their true limitations AND their motivations on wanting to help and risks.

    My opinion I know.

    Peace

    Sorry callen, but I just re-read the first three posts and all said to talk to a doctor "now" or "asap" (full disclosure - that includes my post). Quite possible the next ones did as well, but I didn't continue to scroll down. The additional suggestions/information were to complement, not replace, that.
    That's how I saw it too.

    I am not one to take threats of suicide lightly. Just recently some guy was making cryptic comments in a PJ Facebook group that really made it sound like he was going to hurt himself. The first thing I did was pm his wife, while another guy contacted the person's local police.
    That is not how this thread went though. The OP did not indicate that he was about to hurt himself, for one. All I really saw was immediate strong encouragement to see a doctor right away, and then other useful advice and a sharing of perspectives to.back up the professional help everyone agrees is needed.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce