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  • hedonist said:

    To anyone else reading this thread and want to post about suicidal thoughts they are having -
    please don't.

    Go get help and express what you're feeling to a Doctor. People that can actually help.
    Not people that just post advice in response.

    When someone confides/posts to people that they're having suicidal thoughts we are morally obliged to help or report to the proper people. If we don't and the person commits suicide then it is on us (conscience) for at least not passing this info on.

    Get help and stop posting about having suicidal thoughts.

    I would further state that I will flag posts with people starting threads about having suicidal thoughts.

    I am no moderator but I feel this forum is not for people to drop something as heavy as having suicidal thoughts on an all ages forum.




    Really? This person has said they're seeking out assistance, was looking for input from others familiar with the medication being taken and its effects. Couldn't get an appointment till this week, I believe.

    If, in the interim, something I / we can say, whether through experience or simple good words and thoughts, as a means to help until he CAN get to his doctor?

    I've no qualms with that.

    I'm really surprised by your post, PJfan. Heavy shit is part of life, no? This forum addresses said heavy shit.

    To flag this and similar posts? Like bizarro world.

    I want to flag posts not to get the Posters in shit. Just to pass on the call for help to a higher level.
    If someone came up to me friend or not and told me they are having suicidal thoughts for whatever reason (meds, mouring , etc) you don't just give advice. You bring them to police, hospital or anyone else that can physically help them immediately. You don't tell them to go see a doctor when you can. They need a doctor/help immediately.
    What is so hard to understand about this?
    it's hard to understand because you are attempting to mute those who need a voice. sometimes people reach out, and that reaching out online is what saves them that day.

    just this attitude you have represented here might cause some to not post here at all, which can be a catalyst for catastrophe.

    it's irresponsible. anyone that has these thoughts, feel free to pm me anytime. I may not be a professional, but I'm an ear.

    don't listen to people who want to shut you up.

    new album "Cigarettes" out Spring 2025!

    www.headstonesband.com




  • hedonist said:

    To anyone else reading this thread and want to post about suicidal thoughts they are having -
    please don't.

    Go get help and express what you're feeling to a Doctor. People that can actually help.
    Not people that just post advice in response.

    When someone confides/posts to people that they're having suicidal thoughts we are morally obliged to help or report to the proper people. If we don't and the person commits suicide then it is on us (conscience) for at least not passing this info on.

    Get help and stop posting about having suicidal thoughts.

    I would further state that I will flag posts with people starting threads about having suicidal thoughts.

    I am no moderator but I feel this forum is not for people to drop something as heavy as having suicidal thoughts on an all ages forum.




    Really? This person has said they're seeking out assistance, was looking for input from others familiar with the medication being taken and its effects. Couldn't get an appointment till this week, I believe.

    If, in the interim, something I / we can say, whether through experience or simple good words and thoughts, as a means to help until he CAN get to his doctor?

    I've no qualms with that.

    I'm really surprised by your post, PJfan. Heavy shit is part of life, no? This forum addresses said heavy shit.

    To flag this and similar posts? Like bizarro world.

    I want to flag posts not to get the Posters in shit. Just to pass on the call for help to a higher level.
    If someone came up to me friend or not and told me they are having suicidal thoughts for whatever reason (meds, mouring , etc) you don't just give advice. You bring them to police, hospital or anyone else that can physically help them immediately. You don't tell them to go see a doctor when you can. They need a doctor/help immediately.
    What is so hard to understand about this?
    it's hard to understand because you are attempting to mute those who need a voice. sometimes people reach out, and that reaching out online is what saves them that day.

    just this attitude you have represented here might cause some to not post here at all, which can be a catalyst for catastrophe.

    it's irresponsible. anyone that has these thoughts, feel free to pm me anytime. I may not be a professional, but I'm an ear.

    don't listen to people who want to shut you up.

    Yes.
    PM is a better option.
    I am not muting anyone.
    I am giving an option how to receive help immediately.

  • hedonist said:

    To anyone else reading this thread and want to post about suicidal thoughts they are having -
    please don't.

    Go get help and express what you're feeling to a Doctor. People that can actually help.
    Not people that just post advice in response.

    When someone confides/posts to people that they're having suicidal thoughts we are morally obliged to help or report to the proper people. If we don't and the person commits suicide then it is on us (conscience) for at least not passing this info on.

    Get help and stop posting about having suicidal thoughts.

    I would further state that I will flag posts with people starting threads about having suicidal thoughts.

    I am no moderator but I feel this forum is not for people to drop something as heavy as having suicidal thoughts on an all ages forum.




    Really? This person has said they're seeking out assistance, was looking for input from others familiar with the medication being taken and its effects. Couldn't get an appointment till this week, I believe.

    If, in the interim, something I / we can say, whether through experience or simple good words and thoughts, as a means to help until he CAN get to his doctor?

    I've no qualms with that.

    I'm really surprised by your post, PJfan. Heavy shit is part of life, no? This forum addresses said heavy shit.

    To flag this and similar posts? Like bizarro world.

    I want to flag posts not to get the Posters in shit. Just to pass on the call for help to a higher level.
    If someone came up to me friend or not and told me they are having suicidal thoughts for whatever reason (meds, mouring , etc) you don't just give advice. You bring them to police, hospital or anyone else that can physically help them immediately. You don't tell them to go see a doctor when you can. They need a doctor/help immediately.
    What is so hard to understand about this?
    it's hard to understand because you are attempting to mute those who need a voice. sometimes people reach out, and that reaching out online is what saves them that day.

    just this attitude you have represented here might cause some to not post here at all, which can be a catalyst for catastrophe.

    it's irresponsible. anyone that has these thoughts, feel free to pm me anytime. I may not be a professional, but I'm an ear.

    don't listen to people who want to shut you up.

    Yes.
    PM is a better option.
    I am not muting anyone.
    I am giving an option how to receive help immediately.

    that's not an option. it's a detour that's not available to everyone. don't read it if you it makes you uncomfortable. i am sure the mods would have enough sense to ignore your flag.

    new album "Cigarettes" out Spring 2025!

    www.headstonesband.com




  • hedonist said:

    To anyone else reading this thread and want to post about suicidal thoughts they are having -
    please don't.

    Go get help and express what you're feeling to a Doctor. People that can actually help.
    Not people that just post advice in response.

    When someone confides/posts to people that they're having suicidal thoughts we are morally obliged to help or report to the proper people. If we don't and the person commits suicide then it is on us (conscience) for at least not passing this info on.

    Get help and stop posting about having suicidal thoughts.

    I would further state that I will flag posts with people starting threads about having suicidal thoughts.

    I am no moderator but I feel this forum is not for people to drop something as heavy as having suicidal thoughts on an all ages forum.




    Really? This person has said they're seeking out assistance, was looking for input from others familiar with the medication being taken and its effects. Couldn't get an appointment till this week, I believe.

    If, in the interim, something I / we can say, whether through experience or simple good words and thoughts, as a means to help until he CAN get to his doctor?

    I've no qualms with that.

    I'm really surprised by your post, PJfan. Heavy shit is part of life, no? This forum addresses said heavy shit.

    To flag this and similar posts? Like bizarro world.

    I want to flag posts not to get the Posters in shit. Just to pass on the call for help to a higher level.
    If someone came up to me friend or not and told me they are having suicidal thoughts for whatever reason (meds, mouring , etc) you don't just give advice. You bring them to police, hospital or anyone else that can physically help them immediately. You don't tell them to go see a doctor when you can. They need a doctor/help immediately.
    What is so hard to understand about this?
    it's hard to understand because you are attempting to mute those who need a voice. sometimes people reach out, and that reaching out online is what saves them that day.

    just this attitude you have represented here might cause some to not post here at all, which can be a catalyst for catastrophe.

    it's irresponsible. anyone that has these thoughts, feel free to pm me anytime. I may not be a professional, but I'm an ear.

    don't listen to people who want to shut you up.

    Yes.
    PM is a better option.
    I am not muting anyone.
    I am giving an option how to receive help immediately.

    that's not an option. it's a detour that's not available to everyone. don't read it if you it makes you uncomfortable. i am sure the mods would have enough sense to ignore your flag.

    It is an option - always.
    911 is always, always an option.
    Don't read it? When a thread is titled Kurt Cobain I will click and read, don't know about you.
    Again- it is not to flag and get the poster in "trouble"
  • whispering handswhispering hands Posts: 13,527
    And again.. The mods have no more power over the situation than you!! I agree whole heartedly with Hugh on this.. He is 100% right.
  • And again.. The mods have no more power over the situation than you!! I agree whole heartedly with Hugh on this.. He is 100% right.

    Yes they do. They can call the police/hospital and give their name, address etc.

    People are bringing up that they are having suicidal thoughts.
    They need immediate physical help.
    911
  • whispering handswhispering hands Posts: 13,527

    And again.. The mods have no more power over the situation than you!! I agree whole heartedly with Hugh on this.. He is 100% right.

    Yes they do. They can call the police/hospital and give their name, address etc.

    People are bringing up that they are having suicidal thoughts.
    They need immediate physical help.
    911
    Did you know they can get sued for that????!
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited May 2015

    And again.. The mods have no more power over the situation than you!! I agree whole heartedly with Hugh on this.. He is 100% right.

    Yes they do. They can call the police/hospital and give their name, address etc.

    People are bringing up that they are having suicidal thoughts.
    They need immediate physical help.
    911
    Did you know they can get sued for that????!
    If that is true - which I don't think it is.
    Well then I revert to my statement to call 911
    That is always, always, always an immediate response to get the help you need.
    Post edited by PJfanwillneverleave1 on
  • Dirtie_FrankDirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    Sued for what?
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  • Sued for what?

    breach of confidentiality of information, i would assume.

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    www.headstonesband.com




  • Dirtie_FrankDirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    Damned if you do damned if you don't I guess.
    96 Randall's Island II
    98 CAA
    00 Virginia Beach;Camden I; Jones Beach III
    05 Borgata Night I; Wachovia Center
    06 Letterman Show; Webcast (guy in blue shirt), Camden I; DC
    08 Camden I; Camden II; DC
    09 Phillie III
    10 MSG II
    13 Wrigley Field
    16 Phillie II
  • Sued for what?

    breach of confidentiality of information, i would assume.

    I think there is a good Samaritan legal clause somewhere in the fine print that would allow them to inform authorities.
  • whispering handswhispering hands Posts: 13,527

    And again.. The mods have no more power over the situation than you!! I agree whole heartedly with Hugh on this.. He is 100% right.

    Yes they do. They can call the police/hospital and give their name, address etc.

    People are bringing up that they are having suicidal thoughts.
    They need immediate physical help.
    911
    Did you know they can get sued for that????!
    If that is true - which I don't think it is.
    Well then I revert to my statement to call 911
    That is always, always, always an immediate response to get the help you need.
    In the privacy and terms of use page that we all agreed to, it states that all information provided will not be solicited to outside sources for any reason. So honestly if a person wanted to.. Even though it would have been done with their best interest at heart, could sue them
    For disclosing their personal info. On the other hand, you are right that any person that is told of suicidal thoughts is required by 'moral law', to report it.. So they could honestly get sued dither way..
    For real though flagging posts is doing no one any favors.
  • pickupyourwillpickupyourwill Posts: 3,135
    I get what you are saying, pjfanwillneverleave, about not bothering others about it but rather the proper authorities--no offense taken. I've developed a very thick skin all these years so not much offends me anymore. Its really not fair either to title something Kurt Cobain when it hardly has anything to do with him. I was in a very weak and low state of mind when I wrote it, so its not a very logical post. About 3-5 years ago I was in a similar situation and did check myself into a hospital. They made me stay atleast 3 days and it cost over $1000 with no insurance. So I tend to think very carefully before just going to authorities.

    Thank you to all that wrote this forum is still a safe place to vent such suicidal thoughts. I've seen others do it over the years so I didn't think it was a big deal. Now that I've told my doctor, psychologist, mom, and husband about it--along with you great people--I feel like a huge weight has been lifted. I do apologize for a post that is so alarming, but I do appreciate those who took the time to say don't give up.

    ~~peace & love~~
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    I never thought I'd be saying this, but I agree with pjfan. I agree that posting here cangl give you the temporary relief one may be looking for, the answer is probably getting professional help. And fast. I don't know if reporting the post is the way to go, but if it is a means to get the person in contact with somebody that can help, so be it.
  • whispering handswhispering hands Posts: 13,527

    I get what you are saying, pjfanwillneverleave, about not bothering others about it but rather the proper authorities--no offense taken. I've developed a very thick skin all these years so not much offends me anymore. Its really not fair either to title something Kurt Cobain when it hardly has anything to do with him. I was in a very weak and low state of mind when I wrote it, so its not a very logical post. About 3-5 years ago I was in a similar situation and did check myself into a hospital. They made me stay atleast 3 days and it cost over $1000 with no insurance. So I tend to think very carefully before just going to authorities.

    Thank you to all that wrote this forum is still a safe place to vent such suicidal thoughts. I've seen others do it over the years so I didn't think it was a big deal. Now that I've told my doctor, psychologist, mom, and husband about it--along with you great people--I feel like a huge weight has been lifted. I do apologize for a post that is so alarming, but I do appreciate those who took the time to say don't give up.

    ~~peace & love~~

    We just want to see that you're getting the help you need. Cause it is VERY important. Hope things even out soon. I am in between doctors ( psych) right now, and it's frustrating as hell because I'm mid cycle.. And it's getting scary.. So I hope the new doc signs on quickly.. Cause the meds are NOT working anymore.
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    PJfan, I can see where you are coming from but I don't think it serves anyone well if we shut down another potential avenue for support. Thoughts about suicide or self harm are not either/or, they occur on a continuum from vague musings during times of emotional pain or frustration, to intense, overwhelming, intrusive thoughts that seem to show only one way out. I think, or at least hope, that people experiencing suicidal thoughts know that they have the option of calling 911 or going to the hospital, but sometimes people might be afraid of that idea, or might just be looking for some support to get them through a rough few hours, or might already know they aren't going to act and just want some ideas on how they can change the situation.

    I would never discourage someone with thoughts of suicide (mild or intense) from going to hospital, but realistically there are a lot of people out there who aren't prepared to do that, so if they can get some support here or on another online site, then it's better than being alone with those thoughts.
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  • PJfan, I can see where you are coming from but I don't think it serves anyone well if we shut down another potential avenue for support. Thoughts about suicide or self harm are not either/or, they occur on a continuum from vague musings during times of emotional pain or frustration, to intense, overwhelming, intrusive thoughts that seem to show only one way out. I think, or at least hope, that people experiencing suicidal thoughts know that they have the option of calling 911 or going to the hospital, but sometimes people might be afraid of that idea, or might just be looking for some support to get them through a rough few hours, or might already know they aren't going to act and just want some ideas on how they can change the situation.

    I would never discourage someone with thoughts of suicide (mild or intense) from going to hospital, but realistically there are a lot of people out there who aren't prepared to do that, so if they can get some support here or on another online site, then it's better than being alone with those thoughts.

    Oftenreading
    Stop - this rock band website is not a place for random people to publicly start threads about having suicidal thoughts.

    This is not the Pearl Jam suicide hotline.

    So again I say If you are reading this thread and want to post that you are having suicidal thoughts call 911 or the police.




  • PJfan, I can see where you are coming from but I don't think it serves anyone well if we shut down another potential avenue for support. Thoughts about suicide or self harm are not either/or, they occur on a continuum from vague musings during times of emotional pain or frustration, to intense, overwhelming, intrusive thoughts that seem to show only one way out. I think, or at least hope, that people experiencing suicidal thoughts know that they have the option of calling 911 or going to the hospital, but sometimes people might be afraid of that idea, or might just be looking for some support to get them through a rough few hours, or might already know they aren't going to act and just want some ideas on how they can change the situation.

    I would never discourage someone with thoughts of suicide (mild or intense) from going to hospital, but realistically there are a lot of people out there who aren't prepared to do that, so if they can get some support here or on another online site, then it's better than being alone with those thoughts.

    Oftenreading
    Stop - this rock band website is not a place for random people to publicly start threads about having suicidal thoughts.

    This is not the Pearl Jam suicide hotline.

    So again I say If you are reading this thread and want to post that you are having suicidal thoughts call 911 or the police.




    it is not your call what type of threads get started here. many a folk have been helped, temporarily or not, because of it. many people have friends here. many others see posts like that and go "I'm not alone", and feel a bit better.

    shaming (yes, this is what you are doing) someone for speaking about it is being part of the problem.

    new album "Cigarettes" out Spring 2025!

    www.headstonesband.com




  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524

    I get what you are saying, pjfanwillneverleave, about not bothering others about it but rather the proper authorities--no offense taken. I've developed a very thick skin all these years so not much offends me anymore. Its really not fair either to title something Kurt Cobain when it hardly has anything to do with him. I was in a very weak and low state of mind when I wrote it, so its not a very logical post. About 3-5 years ago I was in a similar situation and did check myself into a hospital. They made me stay atleast 3 days and it cost over $1000 with no insurance. So I tend to think very carefully before just going to authorities.

    Thank you to all that wrote this forum is still a safe place to vent such suicidal thoughts. I've seen others do it over the years so I didn't think it was a big deal. Now that I've told my doctor, psychologist, mom, and husband about it--along with you great people--I feel like a huge weight has been lifted. I do apologize for a post that is so alarming, but I do appreciate those who took the time to say don't give up.

    ~~peace & love~~

    You don't need to apologize, and I hope the sense of relief (in release) stays with you. Good to know you have many resources to turn to.

    You can always air your thoughts here; I consider it a safe haven.

    (and sorry for earlier referring to you as a guy!)
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    pickupyourwill, I applaud your courage for starting a thread and talking about some very personal issues. Some great advice from others in here, and I hope you get all the help you need.

    It's a damn shame hearing that money has to be included in anybody's decision to try and get help. It is an unfair burden.
  • dignin said:

    pickupyourwill, I applaud your courage for starting a thread and talking about some very personal issues. Some great advice from others in here, and I hope you get all the help you need.

    It's a damn shame hearing that money has to be included in anybody's decision to try and get help. It is an unfair burden.

    living in canada, reading that made my forehead crinkle. as if it wasn't hard enough to get help when I needed it, without the worry of going into debt on top of that. jesus.

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    www.headstonesband.com




  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,172
    So...I clicked on this thread about Kurt Cobain and, um, it was about something else...

    I absolutely agree that anyone having such thoughts should immediately seek help. We'll still be here, we want you to be too. The release here is good and can help, but it won't fix anything. Think I see where everyone is coming from, though.
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  • pickupyourwillpickupyourwill Posts: 3,135

    I get what you are saying, pjfanwillneverleave, about not bothering others about it but rather the proper authorities--no offense taken. I've developed a very thick skin all these years so not much offends me anymore. Its really not fair either to title something Kurt Cobain when it hardly has anything to do with him. I was in a very weak and low state of mind when I wrote it, so its not a very logical post. About 3-5 years ago I was in a similar situation and did check myself into a hospital. They made me stay atleast 3 days and it cost over $1000 with no insurance. So I tend to think very carefully before just going to authorities.

    Thank you to all that wrote this forum is still a safe place to vent such suicidal thoughts. I've seen others do it over the years so I didn't think it was a big deal. Now that I've told my doctor, psychologist, mom, and husband about it--along with you great people--I feel like a huge weight has been lifted. I do apologize for a post that is so alarming, but I do appreciate those who took the time to say don't give up.

    ~~peace & love~~

    We just want to see that you're getting the help you need. Cause it is VERY important. Hope things even out soon. I am in between doctors ( psych) right now, and it's frustrating as hell because I'm mid cycle.. And it's getting scary.. So I hope the new doc signs on quickly.. Cause the meds are NOT working anymore.
    Hang in there girl. I hope everything goes well for you. Thanks for your support.

  • pickupyourwillpickupyourwill Posts: 3,135
    Looks good. Too bad all that CSI stuff wasn't around then. It could have even been someone else besides Courtney--that's what I've always thought--but then what do I know.

  • whispering handswhispering hands Posts: 13,527
    dignin said:

    pickupyourwill, I applaud your courage for starting a thread and talking about some very personal issues. Some great advice from others in here, and I hope you get all the help you need.

    It's a damn shame hearing that money has to be included in anybody's decision to try and get help. It is an unfair burden.

    Yeah it sucks.. I just don't pay the hospital bills. It kills my credit, but at least I'm alive.. And I don't think it should cost more to seek medical
    Help than to die.. And honestly, here in America?? That's exactly how it is!
  • mostdefiledmostdefiled Posts: 158
    Pickupyourwill- You've got some better days ahead. We all do.

    Sometimes psych meds stop working.or at least stop working as well as they need to.

    To answer your question about Kurt Cobain, I think if he actually got to take Lithium, or some other psych med, he'd probably still be here. In the '90's there was much less of an understanding about the co-occurrence of drug addiction and mental illness, and all of his interventions focused on getting him sober no matter what cost. Today, we know that doesn't work well, although there is still a lot of terrible substance-abuse treatment out there that ignores it.

    Right before Kurt died, he talked with a psychiatrist who diagnosed him with depression and PTSD just from phone conversations. But I've found no evidence that he got any treatment for either. I suspect he chose the name "lithium" for the song because it's a psych med that has some serious name recognition value. It's very sad- so much went wrong in his life, with this being one of them.

    As for you, I hope you manage to do what you need to do to get better. Life is a struggle for many of us here, but it's worth it.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954

    And again.. The mods have no more power over the situation than you!! I agree whole heartedly with Hugh on this.. He is 100% right.

    Yes they do. They can call the police/hospital and give their name, address etc.

    People are bringing up that they are having suicidal thoughts.
    They need immediate physical help.
    911
    If people called 911 with every suicidal thought they had, 911 would cease to function. Some people struggle with suicidal thoughts for days, weeks, years, every day. That doesn't actually necessarily mean that they are about to kill themselves. Most people with a suicidal thought never try it.
    It's okay to reach out online (this person was more asking for advice about antidepressants anyway!). Of course everyone should seek out as much help as they can. Talking to other who might understand or have some knowledge is one of the options available to them. The OP is also seeing a therapist, has a prescription, and said he was discussing this with doctors. Talking to us here is just another way that he's trying to help himself. I really don't understand how you're not in support of that.
    The OP also didn't threaten suicide here. I would agree that is someone comes here and actually says they're going to commit suicide, we all need to jump into action the best we can. But OP actually stated that while he has thoughts about it, he couldn't do that to his son, which to me is him saying he specifically plans NOT to make an attempt.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul said:

    And again.. The mods have no more power over the situation than you!! I agree whole heartedly with Hugh on this.. He is 100% right.

    Yes they do. They can call the police/hospital and give their name, address etc.

    People are bringing up that they are having suicidal thoughts.
    They need immediate physical help.
    911
    If people called 911 with every suicidal thought they had, 911 would cease to function. Some people struggle with suicidal thoughts for days, weeks, years, every day. That doesn't actually necessarily mean that they are about to kill themselves. Most people with a suicidal thought never try it.
    It's okay to reach out online (this person was more asking for advice about antidepressants anyway!). Of course everyone should seek out as much help as they can. Talking to other who might understand or have some knowledge is one of the options available to them. The OP is also seeing a therapist, has a prescription, and said he was discussing this with doctors. Talking to us here is just another way that he's trying to help himself. I really don't understand how you're not in support of that.
    The OP also didn't threaten suicide here. I would agree that is someone comes here and actually says they're going to commit suicide, we all need to jump into action the best we can. But OP actually stated that while he has thoughts about it, he couldn't do that to his son, which to me is him saying he specifically plans NOT to make an attempt.
    well said.

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