Crowdsourcing "Unlikely to Happen"

courtmcc

I knew it wouldn't happen. Time to give the people their refunds!

BCBA

Really though. The respectful thing at this point is to take the thing down. Perhaps keep the group together as a PJ Forest Hills "fan group" and get together, connect on social media, etc... Do some charitable things and keep noticed. Im sure if it were ever conceivable to put on a show there, they may consider it.

At this point holding out "until you hear a hard 'no'" and implying that the band isn't allowing people's dreams to come true is kind of being a dick.

bootlegger10

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courtmcc said:

I knew it wouldn't happen. Time to give the people their refunds!

Didn't they say it would take a cease and desist order from PJ to get them to stop?

Did they take money yet though or was it just pledges?

BCBA

It is just pledges. With these things, nobody gets charged until an arbitrary point.

whispering hands

BCBA said:

Really though. The respectful thing at this point is to take the thing down. Perhaps keep the group together as a PJ Forest Hills "fan group" and get together, connect on social media, etc... Do some charitable things and keep noticed. Im sure if it were ever conceivable to put on a show there, they may consider it.

At this point holding out "until you hear a hard 'no'" and implying that the band isn't allowing people's dreams to come true is kind of being a dick.

I have to agree.

SD48277

bootlegger10 said:

Didn't they say it would take a cease and desist order from PJ to get them to stop?

Is that true? That's borderline stalker-ish (as in: I'll-keep-pursuing-you-until-I-am-legally-told-to-stop).

joberschlake

SD48277 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Didn't they say it would take a cease and desist order from PJ to get them to stop?

Is that true? That's borderline stalker-ish (as in: I'll-keep-pursuing-you-until-I-am-legally-told-to-stop).

No. They never said that. This is like a child's game of passing the story along from person to person. It only gets more ridiculous with each post.

The organizer said he would shut it down when management contacted him with a hard no. If I understood that correctly, that is not a cease and desist order.

MayDay10

A Cease and Desist Order served by all members of the band, and played in musical form in a 30 song set?

whispering hands

joberschlake said:

SD48277 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Didn't they say it would take a cease and desist order from PJ to get them to stop?

Is that true? That's borderline stalker-ish (as in: I'll-keep-pursuing-you-until-I-am-legally-told-to-stop).

No. They never said that. This is like a child's game of passing the story along from person to person. It only gets more ridiculous with each post.

The organizer said he would shut it down when management contacted him with a hard no. If I understood that correctly, that is not a cease and desist order.

That's what I read too. None the less, still persistent enough to be borderline scary..

joberschlake

whispering hands said:

joberschlake said:

SD48277 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Didn't they say it would take a cease and desist order from PJ to get them to stop?

Is that true? That's borderline stalker-ish (as in: I'll-keep-pursuing-you-until-I-am-legally-told-to-stop).

No. They never said that. This is like a child's game of passing the story along from person to person. It only gets more ridiculous with each post.

The organizer said he would shut it down when management contacted him with a hard no. If I understood that correctly, that is not a cease and desist order.

That's what I read too. None the less, still persistent enough to be borderline scary..

What's scary are the people that sit outside of venues waiting to shake EV's hand, or to ask him if they can hug him, or profess their love to him. That's scary. The organizer of the crowdfund doesn't seem scary at all.

badbrains

It's not happening, stick a fork in it.

MayDay10

I don't think its 'scary' or 'stalkerish' at all or anything.

After this point though, it seems like it will be adversarial toward the band to continue the same way. It seems pretty obvious this was an attempt at a diplomatic, easy let-down that it isn't happening. They were able to thank fans for being so rabid to do this, but also said there is too many factors involved to play at a show like this. Its simple.
But then carrying on and demanding a hard no, while the next sentence saying "dreams do come true" puts the band's management in a little more of an awkward position to say a blatant 'no' to good and dedicated fans and 'end dreams'.
Especially since the thing seems to have stalled quite a bit over the past 4-5 months and its just kind of sitting there.

whispering hands

joberschlake said:

whispering hands said:

joberschlake said:

SD48277 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Didn't they say it would take a cease and desist order from PJ to get them to stop?

Is that true? That's borderline stalker-ish (as in: I'll-keep-pursuing-you-until-I-am-legally-told-to-stop).

No. They never said that. This is like a child's game of passing the story along from person to person. It only gets more ridiculous with each post.

The organizer said he would shut it down when management contacted him with a hard no. If I understood that correctly, that is not a cease and desist order.

That's what I read too. None the less, still persistent enough to be borderline scary..

What's scary are the people that sit outside of venues waiting to shake EV's hand, or to ask him if they can hug him, or profess their love to him. That's scary. The organizer of the crowdfund doesn't seem scary at all.

Lol good point. Except people have been doing this to famous folks for YEARS. And he obviously doesn't seem to mind meeting his fans like that.. Although the 'gotta get a hug, bro' dude from the WOTR video seemed to freak him out a little! Lol as that would anyone. But generally he seems rather ok with it. Trust me, if he wasn't, it wouldn't be allowed.

PJ_Soul

backseatLover12 said:

Sadly, Pearl Jam is no Foo Fighters.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6121387/foo-fighters-agree-to-play-crowdfunded-fan-requested-richmond-show

Thank god they aren't.

Zod

backseatLover12 said:

Sadly, Pearl Jam is no Foo Fighters.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6121387/foo-fighters-agree-to-play-crowdfunded-fan-requested-richmond-show

I find the Foo Fighters situation to be misleading. From what I understand the crowdfunding only raised $70k. I imagine the Foo Fighters make the same money Pearl Jam does as both bands can sellout arenas. $70k would be a far cry from their usual take home pay. They also didn't play a large venue (like the PJ kickstarted is asking). The Foo's played a small 1500 seater theatre which requires less security, planning, and ammenities.

I have to think the Foo Fighters decision to play the show was a promotional gimmick (something PJ doesn't really do). Foo Fighters have played peoples garages, a pizza joint, small venues featured in the recent Sonic Highways documentary. It's their way of self promotion.

I like this article:

http://diffuser.fm/will-foo-fighters-regret-crowdsourced-show/

Now that the Foo's played a really small crowdfunding show for peanuts, they're starting to get asked to play a bunch of other ones. What would be telling is whether or not they do. I'm thinking they don't. They opened a can of worms.

demetrios

Didn't Curtis Management already said no back in Feb? Why the hell is this still going on? If Curtis say's no, that means NO! Done! Finish! Adios muchacho!

PJ_Soul

demetrios said:

Didn't Curtis Management already said no back in Feb? Why the hell is this still going on? If Curtis say's no, that means NO! Done! Finish! Adios muchacho!

They actually said this exact quote back in February in a different publication. The organizer never told a soul as far as i can tell. From what I gather, they kept collecting after this statement, didn't even mention it during the interview with the Village Voice -the VV had to seek out the quote from another source. The organizers seemed to pretend it was never said i think?? Unless I'm missing something.

Bentleyspop

When a woman tells me "it isn't likely to happen" I take that as a NO!

I say thanks and move on

2-feign-reluctance

Look, I like some of you guys a lot, really, but please let it rest. We've got comparisons to dating violence, serious criminal activity and let's not forget my favourite, saying the same damn thing again and again about it. It really needs to stop. I think all that can be said has been and its over.

joberschlake

2-feign-reluctance said:

Look, I like some of you guys a lot, really, but please let it rest. We've got comparisons to dating violence, serious criminal activity and let's not forget my favourite, saying the same damn thing again and again about it. It really needs to stop. I think all that can be said has been and its over.

True that, well played.