Crowdsourcing "Unlikely to Happen"

whispering hands

And I was trying to tell the guy it's not as easy as he was making it out to be.. To do even that tiny venue, would roll in under 3 mil or so.. I calculated it once for him ball park minimum.. And it came to 2.1 mil. That's IF the band played for the mere half mil, no taxation, and excises eliminated. But everyone else wil want their part in full. None of this shit is cheap, none of it is easy.. It is a headache and a half no matter WHO you field for.. Was all I was trying to explain.. I even at one pint offere to get these things rolling for him, as I know those avenues. But he very rudely declined, claiming he was working on JUST this.. Well JUST civering that one thing can cost you YEARS! It can take a YEAR to get a city oridinance permit on sound laws to go through!! Let alone a crowd permit that is linked to police protection and security agents..

ivegotcookies

dimitrispearljam said:

joberschlake said:

dimitrispearljam said:

i tried for once to comment about the whole yesterday atanother conversation...but ..well..seems different opinions arent wellcome..
ideas is cool,anf kudos from the effort a fan put ,but from the idea to become busines at mucis industry from fans and with specific terms,like play at specific venue has really long distance..

fans who follow the band closely,they know already the band do their own way business and ONLY with proffecionals..
fans,by doing any kind project can get attention to the band but NOT to do business with them..
alot of exables over the years,with that..from designs and project,to events etc....that all are wellcome but not for do business..same officially not any band member,or the managrment did business with..
if someone for exable wants to do a crowd whatever shows,cant knock on bands door cos he raise money..or have the money
needs the right profecional producer,or touring agent ,known at music industry to go to bands their management and talk business along with his name,that quarante there are no risk at quality,safety and that can deliver the successful result
and all comes along with contracts..who from bands side will put his name and a signature to do business when the other side isnt a business at all?
i want to be a doctor..i can buy an online diploma and frame it..
will any of u will sit on my table to have a surgery by me?
of course not..

I will pose the same question to you:

Do you work for the band? Are you part of their management?

I think the Crowdfund organzier was looking for direction from someone in that camp, not everyone who wishes they could work for pearl jam or be a part of the band.

The crowdfund organizer reached out to management a long time ago and asked for their input. He was given a non-answer. I think if the sentiment was a NO all along, then management should have been forthright with him, and the whole thing would have went away a long time ago. To date, they have still not directly responded to his inquiries to them.

All I am saying is that a straight up no to his question would have saved a lot of people being really negative, hurtful, and nasty in a "community" that is really supposed to be a fun, loving place to enjoy good music.

i dont care or want to answer to anyones question..
im saying my opinion and noone can tell me what i can say or do..
im saying only profecionals can rich the bands managment and its so easy to see that over the years..
if u read at my post "negative, hurtful, and nasty comment" then its you having some short of problem and not me..
i have an opinion..i dont care or want that you or anyone else like it,but i have the right to say it at the fans forum as a member of the fan club

Opinions are like assholes everyone has one.

joberschlake

dimitrispearljam said:

joberschlake said:

dimitrispearljam said:

i tried for once to comment about the whole yesterday atanother conversation...but ..well..seems different opinions arent wellcome..
ideas is cool,anf kudos from the effort a fan put ,but from the idea to become busines at mucis industry from fans and with specific terms,like play at specific venue has really long distance..

fans who follow the band closely,they know already the band do their own way business and ONLY with proffecionals..
fans,by doing any kind project can get attention to the band but NOT to do business with them..
alot of exables over the years,with that..from designs and project,to events etc....that all are wellcome but not for do business..same officially not any band member,or the managrment did business with..
if someone for exable wants to do a crowd whatever shows,cant knock on bands door cos he raise money..or have the money
needs the right profecional producer,or touring agent ,known at music industry to go to bands their management and talk business along with his name,that quarante there are no risk at quality,safety and that can deliver the successful result
and all comes along with contracts..who from bands side will put his name and a signature to do business when the other side isnt a business at all?
i want to be a doctor..i can buy an online diploma and frame it..
will any of u will sit on my table to have a surgery by me?
of course not..

I will pose the same question to you:

Do you work for the band? Are you part of their management?

I think the Crowdfund organzier was looking for direction from someone in that camp, not everyone who wishes they could work for pearl jam or be a part of the band.

The crowdfund organizer reached out to management a long time ago and asked for their input. He was given a non-answer. I think if the sentiment was a NO all along, then management should have been forthright with him, and the whole thing would have went away a long time ago. To date, they have still not directly responded to his inquiries to them.

All I am saying is that a straight up no to his question would have saved a lot of people being really negative, hurtful, and nasty in a "community" that is really supposed to be a fun, loving place to enjoy good music.

i dont care or want to answer to anyones question..
im saying my opinion and noone can tell me what i can say or do..
im saying only profecionals can rich the bands managment and its so easy to see that over the years..
if u read at my post "negative, hurtful, and nasty comment" then its you having some short of problem and not me..
i have an opinion..i dont care or want that you or anyone else like it,but i have the right to say it at the fans forum as a member of the fan club

^^^^^This is the kind of post I was referring to.

I was not talking about your post from 30 minutes ago. No where in my post did I refer to you or a specific post you made. I was referring to numerous posts in the numerous locked threads and the facebook pages. Why do you have to come back with such a rude, arrogant, entitled response?

I thought deadendp, whispering hands, and myself were having quite a nice adult, conversation before you decided to jump in.

deadendp

joberschlake said:

dimitrispearljam said:

joberschlake said:

dimitrispearljam said:

i tried for once to comment about the whole yesterday atanother conversation...but ..well..seems different opinions arent wellcome..
ideas is cool,anf kudos from the effort a fan put ,but from the idea to become busines at mucis industry from fans and with specific terms,like play at specific venue has really long distance..

fans who follow the band closely,they know already the band do their own way business and ONLY with proffecionals..
fans,by doing any kind project can get attention to the band but NOT to do business with them..
alot of exables over the years,with that..from designs and project,to events etc....that all are wellcome but not for do business..same officially not any band member,or the managrment did business with..
if someone for exable wants to do a crowd whatever shows,cant knock on bands door cos he raise money..or have the money
needs the right profecional producer,or touring agent ,known at music industry to go to bands their management and talk business along with his name,that quarante there are no risk at quality,safety and that can deliver the successful result
and all comes along with contracts..who from bands side will put his name and a signature to do business when the other side isnt a business at all?
i want to be a doctor..i can buy an online diploma and frame it..
will any of u will sit on my table to have a surgery by me?
of course not..

I will pose the same question to you:

Do you work for the band? Are you part of their management?

I think the Crowdfund organzier was looking for direction from someone in that camp, not everyone who wishes they could work for pearl jam or be a part of the band.

The crowdfund organizer reached out to management a long time ago and asked for their input. He was given a non-answer. I think if the sentiment was a NO all along, then management should have been forthright with him, and the whole thing would have went away a long time ago. To date, they have still not directly responded to his inquiries to them.

All I am saying is that a straight up no to his question would have saved a lot of people being really negative, hurtful, and nasty in a "community" that is really supposed to be a fun, loving place to enjoy good music.

i dont care or want to answer to anyones question..
im saying my opinion and noone can tell me what i can say or do..
im saying only profecionals can rich the bands managment and its so easy to see that over the years..
if u read at my post "negative, hurtful, and nasty comment" then its you having some short of problem and not me..
i have an opinion..i dont care or want that you or anyone else like it,but i have the right to say it at the fans forum as a member of the fan club

^^^^^This is the kind of post I was referring to.

I was not talking about your post from 30 minutes ago. No where in my post did I refer to you or a specific post you made. I was referring to numerous posts in the numerous locked threads and the facebook pages. Why do you have to come back with such a rude, arrogant, entitled response?

I thought deadendp, whispering hands, and myself were having quite a nice adult, conversation before you decided to jump in.

We were having a nice discussion and I didn't read Dimitris' original post as negative, hurtful or nasty. I however do read this one as obnoxious:

ivegotcookies said:

dimitrispearljam said:

joberschlake said:

dimitrispearljam said:

i tried for once to comment about the whole yesterday atanother conversation...but ..well..seems different opinions arent wellcome..
ideas is cool,anf kudos from the effort a fan put ,but from the idea to become busines at mucis industry from fans and with specific terms,like play at specific venue has really long distance..

fans who follow the band closely,they know already the band do their own way business and ONLY with proffecionals..
fans,by doing any kind project can get attention to the band but NOT to do business with them..
alot of exables over the years,with that..from designs and project,to events etc....that all are wellcome but not for do business..same officially not any band member,or the managrment did business with..
if someone for exable wants to do a crowd whatever shows,cant knock on bands door cos he raise money..or have the money
needs the right profecional producer,or touring agent ,known at music industry to go to bands their management and talk business along with his name,that quarante there are no risk at quality,safety and that can deliver the successful result
and all comes along with contracts..who from bands side will put his name and a signature to do business when the other side isnt a business at all?
i want to be a doctor..i can buy an online diploma and frame it..
will any of u will sit on my table to have a surgery by me?
of course not..

I will pose the same question to you:

Do you work for the band? Are you part of their management?

I think the Crowdfund organzier was looking for direction from someone in that camp, not everyone who wishes they could work for pearl jam or be a part of the band.

The crowdfund organizer reached out to management a long time ago and asked for their input. He was given a non-answer. I think if the sentiment was a NO all along, then management should have been forthright with him, and the whole thing would have went away a long time ago. To date, they have still not directly responded to his inquiries to them.

All I am saying is that a straight up no to his question would have saved a lot of people being really negative, hurtful, and nasty in a "community" that is really supposed to be a fun, loving place to enjoy good music.

i dont care or want to answer to anyones question..
im saying my opinion and noone can tell me what i can say or do..
im saying only profecionals can rich the bands managment and its so easy to see that over the years..
if u read at my post "negative, hurtful, and nasty comment" then its you having some short of problem and not me..
i have an opinion..i dont care or want that you or anyone else like it,but i have the right to say it at the fans forum as a member of the fan club

Opinions are like assholes everyone has one.

We were politely chatting. Having what I thought was a fairly nice discussion about a subject that regularly gets locked here on the forum. Good discussion back and forth. A little background.

If it is the OP's wish to keep this thread open, let's do so in a manner that is in line with the simple list of posting etiquette that PJ and the mods request. No snark. No nastiness. Let's keep it positive, people.

Differing, constructive opinions invited.

dimitrispearljam

joberschlake said:

dimitrispearljam said:

joberschlake said:

dimitrispearljam said:

i tried for once to comment about the whole yesterday atanother conversation...but ..well..seems different opinions arent wellcome..
ideas is cool,anf kudos from the effort a fan put ,but from the idea to become busines at mucis industry from fans and with specific terms,like play at specific venue has really long distance..

fans who follow the band closely,they know already the band do their own way business and ONLY with proffecionals..
fans,by doing any kind project can get attention to the band but NOT to do business with them..
alot of exables over the years,with that..from designs and project,to events etc....that all are wellcome but not for do business..same officially not any band member,or the managrment did business with..
if someone for exable wants to do a crowd whatever shows,cant knock on bands door cos he raise money..or have the money
needs the right profecional producer,or touring agent ,known at music industry to go to bands their management and talk business along with his name,that quarante there are no risk at quality,safety and that can deliver the successful result
and all comes along with contracts..who from bands side will put his name and a signature to do business when the other side isnt a business at all?
i want to be a doctor..i can buy an online diploma and frame it..
will any of u will sit on my table to have a surgery by me?
of course not..

I will pose the same question to you:

Do you work for the band? Are you part of their management?

I think the Crowdfund organzier was looking for direction from someone in that camp, not everyone who wishes they could work for pearl jam or be a part of the band.

The crowdfund organizer reached out to management a long time ago and asked for their input. He was given a non-answer. I think if the sentiment was a NO all along, then management should have been forthright with him, and the whole thing would have went away a long time ago. To date, they have still not directly responded to his inquiries to them.

All I am saying is that a straight up no to his question would have saved a lot of people being really negative, hurtful, and nasty in a "community" that is really supposed to be a fun, loving place to enjoy good music.

i dont care or want to answer to anyones question..
im saying my opinion and noone can tell me what i can say or do..
im saying only profecionals can rich the bands managment and its so easy to see that over the years..
if u read at my post "negative, hurtful, and nasty comment" then its you having some short of problem and not me..
i have an opinion..i dont care or want that you or anyone else like it,but i have the right to say it at the fans forum as a member of the fan club

^^^^^This is the kind of post I was referring to.

I was not talking about your post from 30 minutes ago. No where in my post did I refer to you or a specific post you made. I was referring to numerous posts in the numerous locked threads and the facebook pages. Why do you have to come back with such a rude, arrogant, entitled response?

I thought deadendp, whispering hands, and myself were having quite a nice adult, conversation before you decided to jump in.

you quote my post and saying about negative, hurtful, and nasty comment
which post u was talking about then?how should i know while u quote my posts that u was talking about others..did in social media
so,when u talk to me and quote me,please judge my opinion and not put it with others,,
i cant answer for others,only for my opinion.
and my opinion is what i post and noone can tell me how i will answer..
my post was just fine and was respectful..and doesnt mean cos u asked me something i have to answer your way...
and u missing the point of the posts..
you talking about what others did in the past..better read the post and what the importnat on the posts....my post has to do same my opinion about how music industry works,and not who fans did what,if i like it or not..

whispering hands

dimitrispearljam said:

joberschlake said:

dimitrispearljam said:

i tried for once to comment about the whole yesterday atanother conversation...but ..well..seems different opinions arent wellcome..
ideas is cool,anf kudos from the effort a fan put ,but from the idea to become busines at mucis industry from fans and with specific terms,like play at specific venue has really long distance..

fans who follow the band closely,they know already the band do their own way business and ONLY with proffecionals..
fans,by doing any kind project can get attention to the band but NOT to do business with them..
alot of exables over the years,with that..from designs and project,to events etc....that all are wellcome but not for do business..same officially not any band member,or the managrment did business with..
if someone for exable wants to do a crowd whatever shows,cant knock on bands door cos he raise money..or have the money
needs the right profecional producer,or touring agent ,known at music industry to go to bands their management and talk business along with his name,that quarante there are no risk at quality,safety and that can deliver the successful result
and all comes along with contracts..who from bands side will put his name and a signature to do business when the other side isnt a business at all?
i want to be a doctor..i can buy an online diploma and frame it..
will any of u will sit on my table to have a surgery by me?
of course not..

I will pose the same question to you:

Do you work for the band? Are you part of their management?

I think the Crowdfund organzier was looking for direction from someone in that camp, not everyone who wishes they could work for pearl jam or be a part of the band.

The crowdfund organizer reached out to management a long time ago and asked for their input. He was given a non-answer. I think if the sentiment was a NO all along, then management should have been forthright with him, and the whole thing would have went away a long time ago. To date, they have still not directly responded to his inquiries to them.

All I am saying is that a straight up no to his question would have saved a lot of people being really negative, hurtful, and nasty in a "community" that is really supposed to be a fun, loving place to enjoy good music.

i dont care or want to answer to anyones question..
im saying my opinion and noone can tell me what i can say or do..
im saying only profecionals can rich the bands managment and its so easy to see that over the years..
if u read at my post "negative, hurtful, and nasty comment" then its you having some short of problem and not me..
i have an opinion..i dont care or want that you or anyone else like it,but i have the right to say it at the fans forum as a member of the fan club

Honestly, Dimitris has a really good point., none of us can just CALL the management.. Lol they have like FOUR different phone numbers.. One for each distinct level of operation.. That 1800 number you call for the 10c is a prime example.. That's a service number, I imagine it's linked to a small call center, ( and knowing the band, it's in one tiny room somewhere in the warehouse). Then there's a BUSINESS number for agents of the different providers.. ( t-shirt producers, poster artists etc), then there's an in-line set of numbers that inter link every phone in the building, ( this runs off the server boards, so, I imagine when we crash the servers we kill the in line lines!! Unless they have routers set to delay the courses on them.. I would hope they do.. We crash a lot of severs!!) and finally each person in TEN CLUB management ( I think there's only the one or maybe two), will have a number.. The actual Curtis Management team will have this same set laid out, and then some. We get the service number.. Only peoke involved in these processes EVER get any of those other numbers.. As for why it took so long for management to answer?? I imagine it's because they're BUSY!! Fifty million thighs go on in that field, often at once.. And Kelly and his staff HUSTLE to make sure all kinks are ironed out as best as possible before the band goes anywhere..

whispering hands

whispering hands said:

dimitrispearljam said:

joberschlake said:

dimitrispearljam said:

i tried for once to comment about the whole yesterday atanother conversation...but ..well..seems different opinions arent wellcome..
ideas is cool,anf kudos from the effort a fan put ,but from the idea to become busines at mucis industry from fans and with specific terms,like play at specific venue has really long distance..

fans who follow the band closely,they know already the band do their own way business and ONLY with proffecionals..
fans,by doing any kind project can get attention to the band but NOT to do business with them..
alot of exables over the years,with that..from designs and project,to events etc....that all are wellcome but not for do business..same officially not any band member,or the managrment did business with..
if someone for exable wants to do a crowd whatever shows,cant knock on bands door cos he raise money..or have the money
needs the right profecional producer,or touring agent ,known at music industry to go to bands their management and talk business along with his name,that quarante there are no risk at quality,safety and that can deliver the successful result
and all comes along with contracts..who from bands side will put his name and a signature to do business when the other side isnt a business at all?
i want to be a doctor..i can buy an online diploma and frame it..
will any of u will sit on my table to have a surgery by me?
of course not..

I will pose the same question to you:

Do you work for the band? Are you part of their management?

I think the Crowdfund organzier was looking for direction from someone in that camp, not everyone who wishes they could work for pearl jam or be a part of the band.

The crowdfund organizer reached out to management a long time ago and asked for their input. He was given a non-answer. I think if the sentiment was a NO all along, then management should have been forthright with him, and the whole thing would have went away a long time ago. To date, they have still not directly responded to his inquiries to them.

All I am saying is that a straight up no to his question would have saved a lot of people being really negative, hurtful, and nasty in a "community" that is really supposed to be a fun, loving place to enjoy good music.

i dont care or want to answer to anyones question..
im saying my opinion and noone can tell me what i can say or do..
im saying only profecionals can rich the bands managment and its so easy to see that over the years..
if u read at my post "negative, hurtful, and nasty comment" then its you having some short of problem and not me..
i have an opinion..i dont care or want that you or anyone else like it,but i have the right to say it at the fans forum as a member of the fan club

Honestly, Dimitris has a really good point., none of us can just CALL the management.. Lol they have like FOUR different phone numbers.. One for each distinct level of operation.. That 1800 number you call for the 10c is a prime example.. That's a service number, I imagine it's linked to a small call center, ( and knowing the band, it's in one tiny room somewhere in the warehouse). Then there's a BUSINESS number for agents of the different providers.. ( t-shirt producers, poster artists etc), then there's an in-line set of numbers that inter link every phone in the building, ( this runs off the server boards, so, I imagine when we crash the servers we kill the in line lines!! Unless they have routers set to delay the courses on them.. I would hope they do.. We crash a lot of severs!!) and finally each person in TEN CLUB management ( I think there's only the one or maybe two), will have a number.. The actual Curtis Management team will have this same set laid out, and then some. We get the service number.. Only peoke involved in these processes EVER get any of those other numbers.. As for why it took so long for management to answer?? I imagine it's because they're BUSY!! Fifty million things go on in that field, often at once.. And Kelly and his staff HUSTLE to make sure all kinks are ironed out as best as possible before the band goes anywhere..

whispering hands

Sorry for the double post.

deadendp

^^ No you aren't. You were just trying to make sure your point was heard! (Kidding. I kid!)

whofeelslikeadrank

CopperTom said:

I'm glad management finally commented.

exactly. don't need a microscope to read between the lines here...

dimitrispearljam

deadendp said:

Edited because my comment got dropped down below someone else's when I thought it wasn't. Here goes:

dimitrispearljam said:

i tried for once to comment about the whole yesterday atanother conversation...but ..well..seems different opinions arent wellcome..
ideas is cool,anf kudos from the effort a fan put ,but from the idea to become busines at mucis industry from fans and with specific terms,like play at specific venue has really long distance..

fans who follow the band closely,they know already the band do their own way business and ONLY with proffecionals..
fans,by doing any kind project can get attention to the band but NOT to do business with them..
alot of exables over the years,with that..from designs and project,to events etc....that all are wellcome but not for do business..same officially not any band member,or the managrment did business with..
if someone for exable wants to do a crowd whatever shows,cant knock on bands door cos he raise money..or have the money
needs the right profecional producer,or touring agent ,known at music industry to go to bands their management and talk business along with his name,that quarante there are no risk at quality,safety and that can deliver the successful result
and all comes along with contracts..who from bands side will put his name and a signature to do business when the other side isnt a business at all?
i want to be a doctor..i can buy an online diploma and frame it..
will any of u will sit on my table to have a surgery by me?
of course not..

We appreciate different opinions. At least I do. I think that I get what you are saying. If they had the backing of a management team with proper contracts and whatnot in order, guaranteed safety and that the event would be conducted in the manner that they (PJ) runs things, perhaps their event may be a bit more successful? Dimitris, do I have your point correct?

if i had this idea i would ask an appointment with the number 1 producer of ny,or anyone pj did busines in the past at that area..i will explain the idea nd if he is willing to be part of the project
i would contact the guy organize the foos project for sure,
i would have with me a laywer and some one from economy firm to explain all the legal matters
this would take several meeting if was going even to talk to bands management
after all was finish and then the producer could back up all,a dn i mean ALL..probably i would give the rights to producer to represent the project,and not a just a fan do it..
we are talking about production,promote,clause in case show will not happen,safety,venue,ticket ventor,radios,internet ,social media,bank acounts,touring agents,stuff,taxes,papework..
who can support all that?? 10c members? a company of friend-fans?
ONLY PROFESSIONALS

whispering hands

deadendp said:

^^ No you aren't. You were just trying to make sure your point was heard! (Kidding. I kid!)

Lmao you know ME, if persistence fails.. Big the shit out if em'!! Lol that makes me think of the old days when you could 'flood' a thread by leaving a statement or most often a word in the script box and holding down the return or enter key!! God that was annoying!

whispering hands

dimitrispearljam said:

deadendp said:

Edited because my comment got dropped down below someone else's when I thought it wasn't. Here goes:

dimitrispearljam said:

i tried for once to comment about the whole yesterday atanother conversation...but ..well..seems different opinions arent wellcome..
ideas is cool,anf kudos from the effort a fan put ,but from the idea to become busines at mucis industry from fans and with specific terms,like play at specific venue has really long distance..

fans who follow the band closely,they know already the band do their own way business and ONLY with proffecionals..
fans,by doing any kind project can get attention to the band but NOT to do business with them..
alot of exables over the years,with that..from designs and project,to events etc....that all are wellcome but not for do business..same officially not any band member,or the managrment did business with..
if someone for exable wants to do a crowd whatever shows,cant knock on bands door cos he raise money..or have the money
needs the right profecional producer,or touring agent ,known at music industry to go to bands their management and talk business along with his name,that quarante there are no risk at quality,safety and that can deliver the successful result
and all comes along with contracts..who from bands side will put his name and a signature to do business when the other side isnt a business at all?
i want to be a doctor..i can buy an online diploma and frame it..
will any of u will sit on my table to have a surgery by me?
of course not..

We appreciate different opinions. At least I do. I think that I get what you are saying. If they had the backing of a management team with proper contracts and whatnot in order, guaranteed safety and that the event would be conducted in the manner that they (PJ) runs things, perhaps their event may be a bit more successful? Dimitris, do I have your point correct?

if i had this idea i would ask an appointment with the number 1 producer of ny,or anyone pj did busines in the past at that area..i will explain the idea nd if he is willing to be part of the project
i would contact the guy organize the foos project for sure,
i would have with me a laywer and some one from economy firm to explain all the legal matters
this would take several meeting if was going even to talk to bands management
after all was finish and then the producer could back up all,a dn i mean ALL..probably i would give the rights to producer to represent the project,and not a just a fan do it..
we are talking about production,promote,clause in case show will not happen,safety,venue,ticket ventor,radios,internet ,social media,bank acounts,touring agents,stuff,taxes,papework..
who can support all that?? 10c members? a company of friend-fans?
ONLY PROFESSIONALS

Again very right.. Though most of that is handled by a group of fielding agents, and promotions agencies, and the event organizers.. That's OUTSIDE of the BAND'S booking and fielding agents.. Very good strategy indeed there Dimitris! That is how it should have been done!

Kat

CopperTom said:

I'm glad management finally commented.

Just so you know...Kelly actually responded back in early February. The Queens Courier reported that back in February but they are mostly distributed in Queens. This week's Village Voice story wasn't new news but was picked up by others because more people see their publication. That's all.
http://queenscourier.com/pearl-jams-manager-says-a-forest-hills-stadium-show-is-unlikely/

PJ_Soul

Kat said:

CopperTom said:

I'm glad management finally commented.

Just so you know...Kelly actually responded back in early February. The Queens Courier reported that back in February but they are mostly distributed in Queens. This week's Village Voice story wasn't new news but was picked up by others because more people see their publication. That's all.
http://queenscourier.com/pearl-jams-manager-says-a-forest-hills-stadium-show-is-unlikely/

Huh! How 'bout that. Surprised no one picked it up at the time! (And that it wasn't passed on to pledgers by the crowdfund organizers... seems like a bit of a lack of disclosure, if that is in fact the case. Not sure that it seems right to continue collecting on this one given the statement, but okay. Maybe it was passed on to donors or potential donors, i dunno).

badbrains

ivegotcookies said:

dimitrispearljam said:

joberschlake said:

dimitrispearljam said:

i tried for once to comment about the whole yesterday atanother conversation...but ..well..seems different opinions arent wellcome..
ideas is cool,anf kudos from the effort a fan put ,but from the idea to become busines at mucis industry from fans and with specific terms,like play at specific venue has really long distance..

fans who follow the band closely,they know already the band do their own way business and ONLY with proffecionals..
fans,by doing any kind project can get attention to the band but NOT to do business with them..
alot of exables over the years,with that..from designs and project,to events etc....that all are wellcome but not for do business..same officially not any band member,or the managrment did business with..
if someone for exable wants to do a crowd whatever shows,cant knock on bands door cos he raise money..or have the money
needs the right profecional producer,or touring agent ,known at music industry to go to bands their management and talk business along with his name,that quarante there are no risk at quality,safety and that can deliver the successful result
and all comes along with contracts..who from bands side will put his name and a signature to do business when the other side isnt a business at all?
i want to be a doctor..i can buy an online diploma and frame it..
will any of u will sit on my table to have a surgery by me?
of course not..

I will pose the same question to you:

Do you work for the band? Are you part of their management?

I think the Crowdfund organzier was looking for direction from someone in that camp, not everyone who wishes they could work for pearl jam or be a part of the band.

The crowdfund organizer reached out to management a long time ago and asked for their input. He was given a non-answer. I think if the sentiment was a NO all along, then management should have been forthright with him, and the whole thing would have went away a long time ago. To date, they have still not directly responded to his inquiries to them.

All I am saying is that a straight up no to his question would have saved a lot of people being really negative, hurtful, and nasty in a "community" that is really supposed to be a fun, loving place to enjoy good music.

i dont care or want to answer to anyones question..
im saying my opinion and noone can tell me what i can say or do..
im saying only profecionals can rich the bands managment and its so easy to see that over the years..
if u read at my post "negative, hurtful, and nasty comment" then its you having some short of problem and not me..
i have an opinion..i dont care or want that you or anyone else like it,but i have the right to say it at the fans forum as a member of the fan club

Opinions are like assholes everyone has one.

So that means there's a lot of people who are assholes in here because they have opinions of YOU being the #1 asshole. Dude, whoever put you in charge of this campaign needs their head examined. You'd have been fired a long time ago, if I was in charge. But since I wasn't, I'm just an asshole with an opinion.

PJ_Soul

Please don't get this thread closed. :(

mcgruff10

badbrains said:

ivegotcookies said:

dimitrispearljam said:

joberschlake said:

dimitrispearljam said:

i tried for once to comment about the whole yesterday atanother conversation...but ..well..seems different opinions arent wellcome..
ideas is cool,anf kudos from the effort a fan put ,but from the idea to become busines at mucis industry from fans and with specific terms,like play at specific venue has really long distance..

fans who follow the band closely,they know already the band do their own way business and ONLY with proffecionals..
fans,by doing any kind project can get attention to the band but NOT to do business with them..
alot of exables over the years,with that..from designs and project,to events etc....that all are wellcome but not for do business..same officially not any band member,or the managrment did business with..
if someone for exable wants to do a crowd whatever shows,cant knock on bands door cos he raise money..or have the money
needs the right profecional producer,or touring agent ,known at music industry to go to bands their management and talk business along with his name,that quarante there are no risk at quality,safety and that can deliver the successful result
and all comes along with contracts..who from bands side will put his name and a signature to do business when the other side isnt a business at all?
i want to be a doctor..i can buy an online diploma and frame it..
will any of u will sit on my table to have a surgery by me?
of course not..

I will pose the same question to you:

Do you work for the band? Are you part of their management?

I think the Crowdfund organzier was looking for direction from someone in that camp, not everyone who wishes they could work for pearl jam or be a part of the band.

The crowdfund organizer reached out to management a long time ago and asked for their input. He was given a non-answer. I think if the sentiment was a NO all along, then management should have been forthright with him, and the whole thing would have went away a long time ago. To date, they have still not directly responded to his inquiries to them.

All I am saying is that a straight up no to his question would have saved a lot of people being really negative, hurtful, and nasty in a "community" that is really supposed to be a fun, loving place to enjoy good music.

i dont care or want to answer to anyones question..
im saying my opinion and noone can tell me what i can say or do..
im saying only profecionals can rich the bands managment and its so easy to see that over the years..
if u read at my post "negative, hurtful, and nasty comment" then its you having some short of problem and not me..
i have an opinion..i dont care or want that you or anyone else like it,but i have the right to say it at the fans forum as a member of the fan club

Opinions are like assholes everyone has one.

So that means there's a lot of people who are assholes in here because they have opinions of YOU being the #1 asshole. Dude, whoever put you in charge of this campaign needs their head examined. You'd have been fired a long time ago, if I was in charge. But since I wasn't, I'm just an asshole with an opinion.

Badbrains I m buying you a beer next tour.

PP193448

Badbrains will not be an asshole when he sports his new PJ20 Patagonia backpack...

jnimhaoileoin

deadendp said:

joberschlake said:

dimitrispearljam said:

joberschlake said:

dimitrispearljam said:

i tried for once to comment about the whole yesterday atanother conversation...but ..well..seems different opinions arent wellcome..
ideas is cool,anf kudos from the effort a fan put ,but from the idea to become busines at mucis industry from fans and with specific terms,like play at specific venue has really long distance..

fans who follow the band closely,they know already the band do their own way business and ONLY with proffecionals..
fans,by doing any kind project can get attention to the band but NOT to do business with them..
alot of exables over the years,with that..from designs and project,to events etc....that all are wellcome but not for do business..same officially not any band member,or the managrment did business with..
if someone for exable wants to do a crowd whatever shows,cant knock on bands door cos he raise money..or have the money
needs the right profecional producer,or touring agent ,known at music industry to go to bands their management and talk business along with his name,that quarante there are no risk at quality,safety and that can deliver the successful result
and all comes along with contracts..who from bands side will put his name and a signature to do business when the other side isnt a business at all?
i want to be a doctor..i can buy an online diploma and frame it..
will any of u will sit on my table to have a surgery by me?
of course not..

I will pose the same question to you:

Do you work for the band? Are you part of their management?

I think the Crowdfund organzier was looking for direction from someone in that camp, not everyone who wishes they could work for pearl jam or be a part of the band.

The crowdfund organizer reached out to management a long time ago and asked for their input. He was given a non-answer. I think if the sentiment was a NO all along, then management should have been forthright with him, and the whole thing would have went away a long time ago. To date, they have still not directly responded to his inquiries to them.

All I am saying is that a straight up no to his question would have saved a lot of people being really negative, hurtful, and nasty in a "community" that is really supposed to be a fun, loving place to enjoy good music.

i dont care or want to answer to anyones question..
im saying my opinion and noone can tell me what i can say or do..
im saying only profecionals can rich the bands managment and its so easy to see that over the years..
if u read at my post "negative, hurtful, and nasty comment" then its you having some short of problem and not me..
i have an opinion..i dont care or want that you or anyone else like it,but i have the right to say it at the fans forum as a member of the fan club

^^^^^This is the kind of post I was referring to.

I was not talking about your post from 30 minutes ago. No where in my post did I refer to you or a specific post you made. I was referring to numerous posts in the numerous locked threads and the facebook pages. Why do you have to come back with such a rude, arrogant, entitled response?

I thought deadendp, whispering hands, and myself were having quite a nice adult, conversation before you decided to jump in.

We were having a nice discussion and I didn't read Dimitris' original post as negative, hurtful or nasty. I however do read this one as obnoxious:

ivegotcookies said:

dimitrispearljam said:

joberschlake said:

dimitrispearljam said:

i tried for once to comment about the whole yesterday atanother conversation...but ..well..seems different opinions arent wellcome..
ideas is cool,anf kudos from the effort a fan put ,but from the idea to become busines at mucis industry from fans and with specific terms,like play at specific venue has really long distance..

fans who follow the band closely,they know already the band do their own way business and ONLY with proffecionals..
fans,by doing any kind project can get attention to the band but NOT to do business with them..
alot of exables over the years,with that..from designs and project,to events etc....that all are wellcome but not for do business..same officially not any band member,or the managrment did business with..
if someone for exable wants to do a crowd whatever shows,cant knock on bands door cos he raise money..or have the money
needs the right profecional producer,or touring agent ,known at music industry to go to bands their management and talk business along with his name,that quarante there are no risk at quality,safety and that can deliver the successful result
and all comes along with contracts..who from bands side will put his name and a signature to do business when the other side isnt a business at all?
i want to be a doctor..i can buy an online diploma and frame it..
will any of u will sit on my table to have a surgery by me?
of course not..

I will pose the same question to you:

Do you work for the band? Are you part of their management?

I think the Crowdfund organzier was looking for direction from someone in that camp, not everyone who wishes they could work for pearl jam or be a part of the band.

The crowdfund organizer reached out to management a long time ago and asked for their input. He was given a non-answer. I think if the sentiment was a NO all along, then management should have been forthright with him, and the whole thing would have went away a long time ago. To date, they have still not directly responded to his inquiries to them.

All I am saying is that a straight up no to his question would have saved a lot of people being really negative, hurtful, and nasty in a "community" that is really supposed to be a fun, loving place to enjoy good music.

i dont care or want to answer to anyones question..
im saying my opinion and noone can tell me what i can say or do..
im saying only profecionals can rich the bands managment and its so easy to see that over the years..
if u read at my post "negative, hurtful, and nasty comment" then its you having some short of problem and not me..
i have an opinion..i dont care or want that you or anyone else like it,but i have the right to say it at the fans forum as a member of the fan club

Opinions are like assholes everyone has one.

We were politely chatting. Having what I thought was a fairly nice discussion about a subject that regularly gets locked here on the forum. Good discussion back and forth. A little background.

If it is the OP's wish to keep this thread open, let's do so in a manner that is in line with the simple list of posting etiquette that PJ and the mods request. No snark. No nastiness. Let's keep it positive, people.

Differing, constructive opinions invited.

Well said deadendp