Meanwhile back in Israel
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Is there really any hope for peace with the current government in Israel? When will the world admit that israel's internal politics will never allow Palestinian autonomy?
This is a small sampling of comments from cabinet ministers...the most powerful people in israel.
In Their Own Words: Senior Israeli Officials on the Palestinian Question
Prime Minister & Minister of Foreign Affairs Benjamin Netanyahu (Likud Party Leader)
[Question: If you are reelected prime minister, there will be no Palestinian state?] “Indeed.” - March 2015
“[A]s long as Likud is in power, we won't divide Jerusalem, we won't make concessions, we won't withdraw from land." - March 2015
“I think the Israeli people understand now what I always say: that there cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of the River Jordan [the occupied West Bank].” - July 2014
Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Tzipi Hotovely (Likud)
“We are opposed to a Palestinian state... [Netanyahu's 2009 declaration of support for a Palestinian state at Bar-Ilan University was] a tactical speech for the rest of the world." - December 2012
Minister of Education & Minister of Jerusalem and Diaspora Affairs Naftali Bennett (Jewish Home Party Leader)
"I will do everything in my power, forever, to fight against a Palestinian state being founded in the Land of Israel." - January 2013
Minister of Interior Silvan Shalom (Likud)
"We are all against a Palestinian state, there is no question about it." - May 2012
Deputy Minister of Defense (Rabbi) Eli Ben-Dahan (Jewish Home)
“We oppose a Palestinian state completely... As our party advocates, we need to take full control of Area C [60% of the occupied West Bank] and impose Israeli law there.” - February 2013
“[Palestinians] are beasts, they are not human.” - August 2013.
Minister of Internal Security, Minister of Tourism & Cabinet Liaison to the Knesset Yariv Levin (Likud)
“We will act to strengthen our hold on all parts of Eretz Israel, and will safeguard the settlement enterprise out of faith and the knowledge that exercising our rights to this land is our duty but also the best guarantee for Israel’s security.” - June 2013
“In this way, we will try, slowly but surely, to expand the circle of settlements, and to afterwards extend the roads that lead to them, and so forth. At the end of this process, the facts on the ground will be that whatever remains [of the occupied West Bank] will be merely marginal appendages… We fully agree and are completely united behind the prime minister’s position, which is to strengthen our foothold in the Land of Israel, to build in [occupied East] Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank]." - January 2013
“Even when the prime minister [Netanyahu] spoke about the issue of two states, he didn’t speak about a [Palestinian] state in the full sense. He spoke about a long range of conditions that he himself says there is no chance that they will be fulfilled in the near future due to the actions of the other side." - January 2013
Minister of Immigration and Absorption & Minister for Jerusalem Affairs Zeev Elkin (Likud)
“I certainly think a Palestinian state is no solution. And if I think a Palestinian state is no solution, that means I do want a Jewish presence here. Which raises the question: What do you do with the Palestinian population? And I don’t think the answer to that question can be found right now. But a Palestinian state is no solution, not for us and I don’t think for them either.” - July 2013
“We will try to apply sovereignty over the maximum [of the occupied West Bank] that we can at any given moment… It will take time to change people’s awareness but in the end this will penetrate. And then, what seems today like a fairy tale will eventually become political reality, and the reality on the ground.” - January 2013
Minister of Agriculture and Rural Development Uri Ariel (Jewish Home)
“…not even one settlement in Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] will be uprooted... Israeli citizens [settlers] will only be under full Israeli sovereignty. And west of the Jordan River there will only be one state and that is the state of Israel." - March 2014
“With God’s help we will continue building all the land of Israel and Jerusalem the capital… It must be made clear that this is only the beginning. This melody can’t be stopped… We can and will market thousands of [settlement] apartments in [occupied East] Jerusalem and there are more than 10,000 apartments ready for marketing in Judea and Samaria.” - August 2013
Minister of Transportation and Road Safety & Minister of Intelligence and Atomic Energy Yisrael Katz (Likud)
"I am opposed to a Palestinian state. It is unacceptable, mainly because of our rights to this land." - July 2013
Minister of Science, Technology, and Space Danny Danon (Likud)
“A deal giving up most of Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] – the current Likud leadership will not accept that... We [who oppose such steps] are the majority in the party.” - September 2013
“Look at the government: there was never a government discussion, resolution or vote about the two-state solution... If you will bring it to a vote in the government... you will see the majority of Likud ministers, along with the Jewish Home [party], will be against it… Today we’re not fighting it, but if there will be a move to promote a two-state solution, you will see forces blocking it within the [Likud] party and the government." - June 2013
"The long-term vision is to apply Jewish sovereignty over the Jewish communities [settlements] of Judea and Samaria, and I am proud of it.” - November 2012
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I'm sure there will be some response posts with "but".0
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I don't agree that Israel's internal politics will categorically never allow Palestinian autonomy, BUT I do agree that the current coalition government isn't going to do it.Drowned Out said:Is there really any hope for peace with the current government in Israel? When will the world admit that israel's internal politics will never allow Palestinian autonomy?
This is a small sampling of comments from cabinet ministers...the most powerful people in israel.
In Their Own Words: Senior Israeli Officials on the Palestinian Question
Prime Minister & Minister of Foreign Affairs Benjamin Netanyahu (Likud Party Leader)
[Question: If you are reelected prime minister, there will be no Palestinian state?] “Indeed.” - March 2015
“[A]s long as Likud is in power, we won't divide Jerusalem, we won't make concessions, we won't withdraw from land." - March 2015
“I think the Israeli people understand now what I always say: that there cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of the River Jordan [the occupied West Bank].” - July 2014
Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Tzipi Hotovely (Likud)
“We are opposed to a Palestinian state... [Netanyahu's 2009 declaration of support for a Palestinian state at Bar-Ilan University was] a tactical speech for the rest of the world." - December 2012
Minister of Education & Minister of Jerusalem and Diaspora Affairs Naftali Bennett (Jewish Home Party Leader)
"I will do everything in my power, forever, to fight against a Palestinian state being founded in the Land of Israel." - January 2013
Minister of Interior Silvan Shalom (Likud)
"We are all against a Palestinian state, there is no question about it." - May 2012
Deputy Minister of Defense (Rabbi) Eli Ben-Dahan (Jewish Home)
“We oppose a Palestinian state completely... As our party advocates, we need to take full control of Area C [60% of the occupied West Bank] and impose Israeli law there.” - February 2013
“[Palestinians] are beasts, they are not human.” - August 2013.
Minister of Internal Security, Minister of Tourism & Cabinet Liaison to the Knesset Yariv Levin (Likud)
“We will act to strengthen our hold on all parts of Eretz Israel, and will safeguard the settlement enterprise out of faith and the knowledge that exercising our rights to this land is our duty but also the best guarantee for Israel’s security.” - June 2013
“In this way, we will try, slowly but surely, to expand the circle of settlements, and to afterwards extend the roads that lead to them, and so forth. At the end of this process, the facts on the ground will be that whatever remains [of the occupied West Bank] will be merely marginal appendages… We fully agree and are completely united behind the prime minister’s position, which is to strengthen our foothold in the Land of Israel, to build in [occupied East] Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank]." - January 2013
“Even when the prime minister [Netanyahu] spoke about the issue of two states, he didn’t speak about a [Palestinian] state in the full sense. He spoke about a long range of conditions that he himself says there is no chance that they will be fulfilled in the near future due to the actions of the other side." - January 2013
Minister of Immigration and Absorption & Minister for Jerusalem Affairs Zeev Elkin (Likud)
“I certainly think a Palestinian state is no solution. And if I think a Palestinian state is no solution, that means I do want a Jewish presence here. Which raises the question: What do you do with the Palestinian population? And I don’t think the answer to that question can be found right now. But a Palestinian state is no solution, not for us and I don’t think for them either.” - July 2013
“We will try to apply sovereignty over the maximum [of the occupied West Bank] that we can at any given moment… It will take time to change people’s awareness but in the end this will penetrate. And then, what seems today like a fairy tale will eventually become political reality, and the reality on the ground.” - January 2013
Minister of Agriculture and Rural Development Uri Ariel (Jewish Home)
“…not even one settlement in Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] will be uprooted... Israeli citizens [settlers] will only be under full Israeli sovereignty. And west of the Jordan River there will only be one state and that is the state of Israel." - March 2014
“With God’s help we will continue building all the land of Israel and Jerusalem the capital… It must be made clear that this is only the beginning. This melody can’t be stopped… We can and will market thousands of [settlement] apartments in [occupied East] Jerusalem and there are more than 10,000 apartments ready for marketing in Judea and Samaria.” - August 2013
Minister of Transportation and Road Safety & Minister of Intelligence and Atomic Energy Yisrael Katz (Likud)
"I am opposed to a Palestinian state. It is unacceptable, mainly because of our rights to this land." - July 2013
Minister of Science, Technology, and Space Danny Danon (Likud)
“A deal giving up most of Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] – the current Likud leadership will not accept that... We [who oppose such steps] are the majority in the party.” - September 2013
“Look at the government: there was never a government discussion, resolution or vote about the two-state solution... If you will bring it to a vote in the government... you will see the majority of Likud ministers, along with the Jewish Home [party], will be against it… Today we’re not fighting it, but if there will be a move to promote a two-state solution, you will see forces blocking it within the [Likud] party and the government." - June 2013
"The long-term vision is to apply Jewish sovereignty over the Jewish communities [settlements] of Judea and Samaria, and I am proud of it.” - November 2012
http://imeu.org/article/in-their-own-words-senior-israeli-officials-on-the-palestinian-questionyou couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane0 -
It's been over 65 years and no governement of Israel has. When? And if not this regime, which one? Don't you think it's time? Mistake after mistake, land after land theft, innocent dead civilians like they mean nothing, when will Israel allow the Palestinians to live "somewhat" dignified lives? And plz don't tell me when they stop launching missiles at Israel. Give me something "real."yosi said:
I don't agree that Israel's internal politics will categorically never allow Palestinian autonomy, BUT I do agree that the current coalition government isn't going to do it.Drowned Out said:Is there really any hope for peace with the current government in Israel? When will the world admit that israel's internal politics will never allow Palestinian autonomy?
This is a small sampling of comments from cabinet ministers...the most powerful people in israel.
In Their Own Words: Senior Israeli Officials on the Palestinian Question
Prime Minister & Minister of Foreign Affairs Benjamin Netanyahu (Likud Party Leader)
[Question: If you are reelected prime minister, there will be no Palestinian state?] “Indeed.” - March 2015
“[A]s long as Likud is in power, we won't divide Jerusalem, we won't make concessions, we won't withdraw from land." - March 2015
“I think the Israeli people understand now what I always say: that there cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of the River Jordan [the occupied West Bank].” - July 2014
Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Tzipi Hotovely (Likud)
“We are opposed to a Palestinian state... [Netanyahu's 2009 declaration of support for a Palestinian state at Bar-Ilan University was] a tactical speech for the rest of the world." - December 2012
Minister of Education & Minister of Jerusalem and Diaspora Affairs Naftali Bennett (Jewish Home Party Leader)
"I will do everything in my power, forever, to fight against a Palestinian state being founded in the Land of Israel." - January 2013
Minister of Interior Silvan Shalom (Likud)
"We are all against a Palestinian state, there is no question about it." - May 2012
Deputy Minister of Defense (Rabbi) Eli Ben-Dahan (Jewish Home)
“We oppose a Palestinian state completely... As our party advocates, we need to take full control of Area C [60% of the occupied West Bank] and impose Israeli law there.” - February 2013
“[Palestinians] are beasts, they are not human.” - August 2013.
Minister of Internal Security, Minister of Tourism & Cabinet Liaison to the Knesset Yariv Levin (Likud)
“We will act to strengthen our hold on all parts of Eretz Israel, and will safeguard the settlement enterprise out of faith and the knowledge that exercising our rights to this land is our duty but also the best guarantee for Israel’s security.” - June 2013
“In this way, we will try, slowly but surely, to expand the circle of settlements, and to afterwards extend the roads that lead to them, and so forth. At the end of this process, the facts on the ground will be that whatever remains [of the occupied West Bank] will be merely marginal appendages… We fully agree and are completely united behind the prime minister’s position, which is to strengthen our foothold in the Land of Israel, to build in [occupied East] Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank]." - January 2013
“Even when the prime minister [Netanyahu] spoke about the issue of two states, he didn’t speak about a [Palestinian] state in the full sense. He spoke about a long range of conditions that he himself says there is no chance that they will be fulfilled in the near future due to the actions of the other side." - January 2013
Minister of Immigration and Absorption & Minister for Jerusalem Affairs Zeev Elkin (Likud)
“I certainly think a Palestinian state is no solution. And if I think a Palestinian state is no solution, that means I do want a Jewish presence here. Which raises the question: What do you do with the Palestinian population? And I don’t think the answer to that question can be found right now. But a Palestinian state is no solution, not for us and I don’t think for them either.” - July 2013
“We will try to apply sovereignty over the maximum [of the occupied West Bank] that we can at any given moment… It will take time to change people’s awareness but in the end this will penetrate. And then, what seems today like a fairy tale will eventually become political reality, and the reality on the ground.” - January 2013
Minister of Agriculture and Rural Development Uri Ariel (Jewish Home)
“…not even one settlement in Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] will be uprooted... Israeli citizens [settlers] will only be under full Israeli sovereignty. And west of the Jordan River there will only be one state and that is the state of Israel." - March 2014
“With God’s help we will continue building all the land of Israel and Jerusalem the capital… It must be made clear that this is only the beginning. This melody can’t be stopped… We can and will market thousands of [settlement] apartments in [occupied East] Jerusalem and there are more than 10,000 apartments ready for marketing in Judea and Samaria.” - August 2013
Minister of Transportation and Road Safety & Minister of Intelligence and Atomic Energy Yisrael Katz (Likud)
"I am opposed to a Palestinian state. It is unacceptable, mainly because of our rights to this land." - July 2013
Minister of Science, Technology, and Space Danny Danon (Likud)
“A deal giving up most of Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] – the current Likud leadership will not accept that... We [who oppose such steps] are the majority in the party.” - September 2013
“Look at the government: there was never a government discussion, resolution or vote about the two-state solution... If you will bring it to a vote in the government... you will see the majority of Likud ministers, along with the Jewish Home [party], will be against it… Today we’re not fighting it, but if there will be a move to promote a two-state solution, you will see forces blocking it within the [Likud] party and the government." - June 2013
"The long-term vision is to apply Jewish sovereignty over the Jewish communities [settlements] of Judea and Samaria, and I am proud of it.” - November 2012
http://imeu.org/article/in-their-own-words-senior-israeli-officials-on-the-palestinian-question0 -
Your math is pretty interesting given that the occupation is only 48 years old. I wasn't aware that Israel was responsible for the lack of Palestinian autonomy while the West Bank was under Jordanian occupation (learn a new thing every day!).badbrains said:
It's been over 65 years and no governement of Israel has. When? And if not this regime, which one? Don't you think it's time? Mistake after mistake, land after land theft, innocent dead civilians like they mean nothing, when will Israel allow the Palestinians to live "somewhat" dignified lives? And plz don't tell me when they stop launching missiles at Israel. Give me something "real."yosi said:
I don't agree that Israel's internal politics will categorically never allow Palestinian autonomy, BUT I do agree that the current coalition government isn't going to do it.Drowned Out said:Is there really any hope for peace with the current government in Israel? When will the world admit that israel's internal politics will never allow Palestinian autonomy?
This is a small sampling of comments from cabinet ministers...the most powerful people in israel.
In Their Own Words: Senior Israeli Officials on the Palestinian Question
Prime Minister & Minister of Foreign Affairs Benjamin Netanyahu (Likud Party Leader)
[Question: If you are reelected prime minister, there will be no Palestinian state?] “Indeed.” - March 2015
“[A]s long as Likud is in power, we won't divide Jerusalem, we won't make concessions, we won't withdraw from land." - March 2015
“I think the Israeli people understand now what I always say: that there cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of the River Jordan [the occupied West Bank].” - July 2014
Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Tzipi Hotovely (Likud)
“We are opposed to a Palestinian state... [Netanyahu's 2009 declaration of support for a Palestinian state at Bar-Ilan University was] a tactical speech for the rest of the world." - December 2012
Minister of Education & Minister of Jerusalem and Diaspora Affairs Naftali Bennett (Jewish Home Party Leader)
"I will do everything in my power, forever, to fight against a Palestinian state being founded in the Land of Israel." - January 2013
Minister of Interior Silvan Shalom (Likud)
"We are all against a Palestinian state, there is no question about it." - May 2012
Deputy Minister of Defense (Rabbi) Eli Ben-Dahan (Jewish Home)
“We oppose a Palestinian state completely... As our party advocates, we need to take full control of Area C [60% of the occupied West Bank] and impose Israeli law there.” - February 2013
“[Palestinians] are beasts, they are not human.” - August 2013.
Minister of Internal Security, Minister of Tourism & Cabinet Liaison to the Knesset Yariv Levin (Likud)
“We will act to strengthen our hold on all parts of Eretz Israel, and will safeguard the settlement enterprise out of faith and the knowledge that exercising our rights to this land is our duty but also the best guarantee for Israel’s security.” - June 2013
“In this way, we will try, slowly but surely, to expand the circle of settlements, and to afterwards extend the roads that lead to them, and so forth. At the end of this process, the facts on the ground will be that whatever remains [of the occupied West Bank] will be merely marginal appendages… We fully agree and are completely united behind the prime minister’s position, which is to strengthen our foothold in the Land of Israel, to build in [occupied East] Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank]." - January 2013
“Even when the prime minister [Netanyahu] spoke about the issue of two states, he didn’t speak about a [Palestinian] state in the full sense. He spoke about a long range of conditions that he himself says there is no chance that they will be fulfilled in the near future due to the actions of the other side." - January 2013
Minister of Immigration and Absorption & Minister for Jerusalem Affairs Zeev Elkin (Likud)
“I certainly think a Palestinian state is no solution. And if I think a Palestinian state is no solution, that means I do want a Jewish presence here. Which raises the question: What do you do with the Palestinian population? And I don’t think the answer to that question can be found right now. But a Palestinian state is no solution, not for us and I don’t think for them either.” - July 2013
“We will try to apply sovereignty over the maximum [of the occupied West Bank] that we can at any given moment… It will take time to change people’s awareness but in the end this will penetrate. And then, what seems today like a fairy tale will eventually become political reality, and the reality on the ground.” - January 2013
Minister of Agriculture and Rural Development Uri Ariel (Jewish Home)
“…not even one settlement in Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] will be uprooted... Israeli citizens [settlers] will only be under full Israeli sovereignty. And west of the Jordan River there will only be one state and that is the state of Israel." - March 2014
“With God’s help we will continue building all the land of Israel and Jerusalem the capital… It must be made clear that this is only the beginning. This melody can’t be stopped… We can and will market thousands of [settlement] apartments in [occupied East] Jerusalem and there are more than 10,000 apartments ready for marketing in Judea and Samaria.” - August 2013
Minister of Transportation and Road Safety & Minister of Intelligence and Atomic Energy Yisrael Katz (Likud)
"I am opposed to a Palestinian state. It is unacceptable, mainly because of our rights to this land." - July 2013
Minister of Science, Technology, and Space Danny Danon (Likud)
“A deal giving up most of Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] – the current Likud leadership will not accept that... We [who oppose such steps] are the majority in the party.” - September 2013
“Look at the government: there was never a government discussion, resolution or vote about the two-state solution... If you will bring it to a vote in the government... you will see the majority of Likud ministers, along with the Jewish Home [party], will be against it… Today we’re not fighting it, but if there will be a move to promote a two-state solution, you will see forces blocking it within the [Likud] party and the government." - June 2013
"The long-term vision is to apply Jewish sovereignty over the Jewish communities [settlements] of Judea and Samaria, and I am proud of it.” - November 2012
http://imeu.org/article/in-their-own-words-senior-israeli-officials-on-the-palestinian-question
I don't know when. I hope tomorrow.you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane0 -
My apologies, BS. Sometimes I take myself (or clearly others) too seriously! Jokes are often hard to detect for me when they're just written in plain text. Much easier when you see a cheeky grin on a person's face, etc.BS44325 said:
I don't have an issue with yours and I certainly don't mind the criticism. That comment was for the most part a joke.benjs said:
I personally don't mind your tone for the most part. I also don't think criticisms of one's tone are out of line, however... I assume people have issue with mine and that's totally cool with me.BS44325 said:
I thought this "I agree" was pretty clear but I do take tissue with any critique of my "tone". My tone is tight.benjs said:Nart, he's right. You need to take a step back and consider the posts, not the poster. I get that there's animosity between the two of you (and I refuse to read into it any more than that), but this is a discussion about facts. The statement that I posted, which BS agreed to, suggested a few things:
-Obama believes in the right to criticize Israel for everything except its right to exist in some fashion
-Those who criticize Israel do so just loudly enough as not to be morally reprehensible humans, and just quietly enough as not to actually drive change
-There is precedent in the notion that Israel does not have concern for the well-being of the Palestinian people
-The Palestinian people exist today (at all) because Israel fears the global isolation which would stem from a genocide at their hands
-Israel's assistance in repairing a society crippled by Israel itself has been no better than the bare acceptable minimum
You may not like his tone, or the way he goes about making his points, but BS just agreed with things that I had always assumed you and I agree on (at least partially). This was not said with any arrogance, or any bigotry - it was just a simple "I agree".'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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That math gives away the game. It's not "the occupation" that bugs him...it's the existance of Israel at all.yosi said:
Your math is pretty interesting given that the occupation is only 48 years old. I wasn't aware that Israel was responsible for the lack of Palestinian autonomy while the West Bank was under Jordanian occupation (learn a new thing every day!).badbrains said:
It's been over 65 years and no governement of Israel has. When? And if not this regime, which one? Don't you think it's time? Mistake after mistake, land after land theft, innocent dead civilians like they mean nothing, when will Israel allow the Palestinians to live "somewhat" dignified lives? And plz don't tell me when they stop launching missiles at Israel. Give me something "real."yosi said:
I don't agree that Israel's internal politics will categorically never allow Palestinian autonomy, BUT I do agree that the current coalition government isn't going to do it.Drowned Out said:Is there really any hope for peace with the current government in Israel? When will the world admit that israel's internal politics will never allow Palestinian autonomy?
This is a small sampling of comments from cabinet ministers...the most powerful people in israel.
In Their Own Words: Senior Israeli Officials on the Palestinian Question
Prime Minister & Minister of Foreign Affairs Benjamin Netanyahu (Likud Party Leader)
[Question: If you are reelected prime minister, there will be no Palestinian state?] “Indeed.” - March 2015
“[A]s long as Likud is in power, we won't divide Jerusalem, we won't make concessions, we won't withdraw from land." - March 2015
“I think the Israeli people understand now what I always say: that there cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of the River Jordan [the occupied West Bank].” - July 2014
Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Tzipi Hotovely (Likud)
“We are opposed to a Palestinian state... [Netanyahu's 2009 declaration of support for a Palestinian state at Bar-Ilan University was] a tactical speech for the rest of the world." - December 2012
Minister of Education & Minister of Jerusalem and Diaspora Affairs Naftali Bennett (Jewish Home Party Leader)
"I will do everything in my power, forever, to fight against a Palestinian state being founded in the Land of Israel." - January 2013
Minister of Interior Silvan Shalom (Likud)
"We are all against a Palestinian state, there is no question about it." - May 2012
Deputy Minister of Defense (Rabbi) Eli Ben-Dahan (Jewish Home)
“We oppose a Palestinian state completely... As our party advocates, we need to take full control of Area C [60% of the occupied West Bank] and impose Israeli law there.” - February 2013
“[Palestinians] are beasts, they are not human.” - August 2013.
Minister of Internal Security, Minister of Tourism & Cabinet Liaison to the Knesset Yariv Levin (Likud)
“We will act to strengthen our hold on all parts of Eretz Israel, and will safeguard the settlement enterprise out of faith and the knowledge that exercising our rights to this land is our duty but also the best guarantee for Israel’s security.” - June 2013
“In this way, we will try, slowly but surely, to expand the circle of settlements, and to afterwards extend the roads that lead to them, and so forth. At the end of this process, the facts on the ground will be that whatever remains [of the occupied West Bank] will be merely marginal appendages… We fully agree and are completely united behind the prime minister’s position, which is to strengthen our foothold in the Land of Israel, to build in [occupied East] Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank]." - January 2013
“Even when the prime minister [Netanyahu] spoke about the issue of two states, he didn’t speak about a [Palestinian] state in the full sense. He spoke about a long range of conditions that he himself says there is no chance that they will be fulfilled in the near future due to the actions of the other side." - January 2013
Minister of Immigration and Absorption & Minister for Jerusalem Affairs Zeev Elkin (Likud)
“I certainly think a Palestinian state is no solution. And if I think a Palestinian state is no solution, that means I do want a Jewish presence here. Which raises the question: What do you do with the Palestinian population? And I don’t think the answer to that question can be found right now. But a Palestinian state is no solution, not for us and I don’t think for them either.” - July 2013
“We will try to apply sovereignty over the maximum [of the occupied West Bank] that we can at any given moment… It will take time to change people’s awareness but in the end this will penetrate. And then, what seems today like a fairy tale will eventually become political reality, and the reality on the ground.” - January 2013
Minister of Agriculture and Rural Development Uri Ariel (Jewish Home)
“…not even one settlement in Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] will be uprooted... Israeli citizens [settlers] will only be under full Israeli sovereignty. And west of the Jordan River there will only be one state and that is the state of Israel." - March 2014
“With God’s help we will continue building all the land of Israel and Jerusalem the capital… It must be made clear that this is only the beginning. This melody can’t be stopped… We can and will market thousands of [settlement] apartments in [occupied East] Jerusalem and there are more than 10,000 apartments ready for marketing in Judea and Samaria.” - August 2013
Minister of Transportation and Road Safety & Minister of Intelligence and Atomic Energy Yisrael Katz (Likud)
"I am opposed to a Palestinian state. It is unacceptable, mainly because of our rights to this land." - July 2013
Minister of Science, Technology, and Space Danny Danon (Likud)
“A deal giving up most of Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] – the current Likud leadership will not accept that... We [who oppose such steps] are the majority in the party.” - September 2013
“Look at the government: there was never a government discussion, resolution or vote about the two-state solution... If you will bring it to a vote in the government... you will see the majority of Likud ministers, along with the Jewish Home [party], will be against it… Today we’re not fighting it, but if there will be a move to promote a two-state solution, you will see forces blocking it within the [Likud] party and the government." - June 2013
"The long-term vision is to apply Jewish sovereignty over the Jewish communities [settlements] of Judea and Samaria, and I am proud of it.” - November 2012
http://imeu.org/article/in-their-own-words-senior-israeli-officials-on-the-palestinian-question
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Oh god, so my math is the problem? You 2 apologist never surprise me. Keep apologizing for Israel, the world is watching. And BS keep frothing at the mouth whenever someone critizies Israel.yosi said:
Your math is pretty interesting given that the occupation is only 48 years old. I wasn't aware that Israel was responsible for the lack of Palestinian autonomy while the West Bank was under Jordanian occupation (learn a new thing every day!).badbrains said:
It's been over 65 years and no governement of Israel has. When? And if not this regime, which one? Don't you think it's time? Mistake after mistake, land after land theft, innocent dead civilians like they mean nothing, when will Israel allow the Palestinians to live "somewhat" dignified lives? And plz don't tell me when they stop launching missiles at Israel. Give me something "real."yosi said:
I don't agree that Israel's internal politics will categorically never allow Palestinian autonomy, BUT I do agree that the current coalition government isn't going to do it.Drowned Out said:Is there really any hope for peace with the current government in Israel? When will the world admit that israel's internal politics will never allow Palestinian autonomy?
This is a small sampling of comments from cabinet ministers...the most powerful people in israel.
In Their Own Words: Senior Israeli Officials on the Palestinian Question
Prime Minister & Minister of Foreign Affairs Benjamin Netanyahu (Likud Party Leader)
[Question: If you are reelected prime minister, there will be no Palestinian state?] “Indeed.” - March 2015
“[A]s long as Likud is in power, we won't divide Jerusalem, we won't make concessions, we won't withdraw from land." - March 2015
“I think the Israeli people understand now what I always say: that there cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of the River Jordan [the occupied West Bank].” - July 2014
Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Tzipi Hotovely (Likud)
“We are opposed to a Palestinian state... [Netanyahu's 2009 declaration of support for a Palestinian state at Bar-Ilan University was] a tactical speech for the rest of the world." - December 2012
Minister of Education & Minister of Jerusalem and Diaspora Affairs Naftali Bennett (Jewish Home Party Leader)
"I will do everything in my power, forever, to fight against a Palestinian state being founded in the Land of Israel." - January 2013
Minister of Interior Silvan Shalom (Likud)
"We are all against a Palestinian state, there is no question about it." - May 2012
Deputy Minister of Defense (Rabbi) Eli Ben-Dahan (Jewish Home)
“We oppose a Palestinian state completely... As our party advocates, we need to take full control of Area C [60% of the occupied West Bank] and impose Israeli law there.” - February 2013
“[Palestinians] are beasts, they are not human.” - August 2013.
Minister of Internal Security, Minister of Tourism & Cabinet Liaison to the Knesset Yariv Levin (Likud)
“We will act to strengthen our hold on all parts of Eretz Israel, and will safeguard the settlement enterprise out of faith and the knowledge that exercising our rights to this land is our duty but also the best guarantee for Israel’s security.” - June 2013
“In this way, we will try, slowly but surely, to expand the circle of settlements, and to afterwards extend the roads that lead to them, and so forth. At the end of this process, the facts on the ground will be that whatever remains [of the occupied West Bank] will be merely marginal appendages… We fully agree and are completely united behind the prime minister’s position, which is to strengthen our foothold in the Land of Israel, to build in [occupied East] Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank]." - January 2013
“Even when the prime minister [Netanyahu] spoke about the issue of two states, he didn’t speak about a [Palestinian] state in the full sense. He spoke about a long range of conditions that he himself says there is no chance that they will be fulfilled in the near future due to the actions of the other side." - January 2013
Minister of Immigration and Absorption & Minister for Jerusalem Affairs Zeev Elkin (Likud)
“I certainly think a Palestinian state is no solution. And if I think a Palestinian state is no solution, that means I do want a Jewish presence here. Which raises the question: What do you do with the Palestinian population? And I don’t think the answer to that question can be found right now. But a Palestinian state is no solution, not for us and I don’t think for them either.” - July 2013
“We will try to apply sovereignty over the maximum [of the occupied West Bank] that we can at any given moment… It will take time to change people’s awareness but in the end this will penetrate. And then, what seems today like a fairy tale will eventually become political reality, and the reality on the ground.” - January 2013
Minister of Agriculture and Rural Development Uri Ariel (Jewish Home)
“…not even one settlement in Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] will be uprooted... Israeli citizens [settlers] will only be under full Israeli sovereignty. And west of the Jordan River there will only be one state and that is the state of Israel." - March 2014
“With God’s help we will continue building all the land of Israel and Jerusalem the capital… It must be made clear that this is only the beginning. This melody can’t be stopped… We can and will market thousands of [settlement] apartments in [occupied East] Jerusalem and there are more than 10,000 apartments ready for marketing in Judea and Samaria.” - August 2013
Minister of Transportation and Road Safety & Minister of Intelligence and Atomic Energy Yisrael Katz (Likud)
"I am opposed to a Palestinian state. It is unacceptable, mainly because of our rights to this land." - July 2013
Minister of Science, Technology, and Space Danny Danon (Likud)
“A deal giving up most of Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] – the current Likud leadership will not accept that... We [who oppose such steps] are the majority in the party.” - September 2013
“Look at the government: there was never a government discussion, resolution or vote about the two-state solution... If you will bring it to a vote in the government... you will see the majority of Likud ministers, along with the Jewish Home [party], will be against it… Today we’re not fighting it, but if there will be a move to promote a two-state solution, you will see forces blocking it within the [Likud] party and the government." - June 2013
"The long-term vision is to apply Jewish sovereignty over the Jewish communities [settlements] of Judea and Samaria, and I am proud of it.” - November 2012
http://imeu.org/article/in-their-own-words-senior-israeli-officials-on-the-palestinian-question
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My math gives it away? Hahaha, because since the day Israel was created, the Palestinians have been suffering since day 1. As I've said BEFORE, see if YOU, BS, can follow, I know it's fucken hard for you because you're slow, but try. Israel has the right to exist, and WILL exist. So do the Palestinians and Palestine. Here, I'll say it again, Israel has the right to exit and will exist. Now put your hard on away.BS44325 said:
That math gives away the game. It's not "the occupation" that bugs him...it's the existance of Israel at all.yosi said:
Your math is pretty interesting given that the occupation is only 48 years old. I wasn't aware that Israel was responsible for the lack of Palestinian autonomy while the West Bank was under Jordanian occupation (learn a new thing every day!).badbrains said:
It's been over 65 years and no governement of Israel has. When? And if not this regime, which one? Don't you think it's time? Mistake after mistake, land after land theft, innocent dead civilians like they mean nothing, when will Israel allow the Palestinians to live "somewhat" dignified lives? And plz don't tell me when they stop launching missiles at Israel. Give me something "real."yosi said:
I don't agree that Israel's internal politics will categorically never allow Palestinian autonomy, BUT I do agree that the current coalition government isn't going to do it.Drowned Out said:Is there really any hope for peace with the current government in Israel? When will the world admit that israel's internal politics will never allow Palestinian autonomy?
This is a small sampling of comments from cabinet ministers...the most powerful people in israel.
In Their Own Words: Senior Israeli Officials on the Palestinian Question
Prime Minister & Minister of Foreign Affairs Benjamin Netanyahu (Likud Party Leader)
[Question: If you are reelected prime minister, there will be no Palestinian state?] “Indeed.” - March 2015
“[A]s long as Likud is in power, we won't divide Jerusalem, we won't make concessions, we won't withdraw from land." - March 2015
“I think the Israeli people understand now what I always say: that there cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of the River Jordan [the occupied West Bank].” - July 2014
Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Tzipi Hotovely (Likud)
“We are opposed to a Palestinian state... [Netanyahu's 2009 declaration of support for a Palestinian state at Bar-Ilan University was] a tactical speech for the rest of the world." - December 2012
Minister of Education & Minister of Jerusalem and Diaspora Affairs Naftali Bennett (Jewish Home Party Leader)
"I will do everything in my power, forever, to fight against a Palestinian state being founded in the Land of Israel." - January 2013
Minister of Interior Silvan Shalom (Likud)
"We are all against a Palestinian state, there is no question about it." - May 2012
Deputy Minister of Defense (Rabbi) Eli Ben-Dahan (Jewish Home)
“We oppose a Palestinian state completely... As our party advocates, we need to take full control of Area C [60% of the occupied West Bank] and impose Israeli law there.” - February 2013
“[Palestinians] are beasts, they are not human.” - August 2013.
Minister of Internal Security, Minister of Tourism & Cabinet Liaison to the Knesset Yariv Levin (Likud)
“We will act to strengthen our hold on all parts of Eretz Israel, and will safeguard the settlement enterprise out of faith and the knowledge that exercising our rights to this land is our duty but also the best guarantee for Israel’s security.” - June 2013
“In this way, we will try, slowly but surely, to expand the circle of settlements, and to afterwards extend the roads that lead to them, and so forth. At the end of this process, the facts on the ground will be that whatever remains [of the occupied West Bank] will be merely marginal appendages… We fully agree and are completely united behind the prime minister’s position, which is to strengthen our foothold in the Land of Israel, to build in [occupied East] Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank]." - January 2013
“Even when the prime minister [Netanyahu] spoke about the issue of two states, he didn’t speak about a [Palestinian] state in the full sense. He spoke about a long range of conditions that he himself says there is no chance that they will be fulfilled in the near future due to the actions of the other side." - January 2013
Minister of Immigration and Absorption & Minister for Jerusalem Affairs Zeev Elkin (Likud)
“I certainly think a Palestinian state is no solution. And if I think a Palestinian state is no solution, that means I do want a Jewish presence here. Which raises the question: What do you do with the Palestinian population? And I don’t think the answer to that question can be found right now. But a Palestinian state is no solution, not for us and I don’t think for them either.” - July 2013
“We will try to apply sovereignty over the maximum [of the occupied West Bank] that we can at any given moment… It will take time to change people’s awareness but in the end this will penetrate. And then, what seems today like a fairy tale will eventually become political reality, and the reality on the ground.” - January 2013
Minister of Agriculture and Rural Development Uri Ariel (Jewish Home)
“…not even one settlement in Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] will be uprooted... Israeli citizens [settlers] will only be under full Israeli sovereignty. And west of the Jordan River there will only be one state and that is the state of Israel." - March 2014
“With God’s help we will continue building all the land of Israel and Jerusalem the capital… It must be made clear that this is only the beginning. This melody can’t be stopped… We can and will market thousands of [settlement] apartments in [occupied East] Jerusalem and there are more than 10,000 apartments ready for marketing in Judea and Samaria.” - August 2013
Minister of Transportation and Road Safety & Minister of Intelligence and Atomic Energy Yisrael Katz (Likud)
"I am opposed to a Palestinian state. It is unacceptable, mainly because of our rights to this land." - July 2013
Minister of Science, Technology, and Space Danny Danon (Likud)
“A deal giving up most of Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] – the current Likud leadership will not accept that... We [who oppose such steps] are the majority in the party.” - September 2013
“Look at the government: there was never a government discussion, resolution or vote about the two-state solution... If you will bring it to a vote in the government... you will see the majority of Likud ministers, along with the Jewish Home [party], will be against it… Today we’re not fighting it, but if there will be a move to promote a two-state solution, you will see forces blocking it within the [Likud] party and the government." - June 2013
"The long-term vision is to apply Jewish sovereignty over the Jewish communities [settlements] of Judea and Samaria, and I am proud of it.” - November 2012
http://imeu.org/article/in-their-own-words-senior-israeli-officials-on-the-palestinian-question
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Nart, I think it's time to abandon this binary standpoint.yosi said:
Your math is pretty interesting given that the occupation is only 48 years old. I wasn't aware that Israel was responsible for the lack of Palestinian autonomy while the West Bank was under Jordanian occupation (learn a new thing every day!).badbrains said:
It's been over 65 years and no governement of Israel has. When? And if not this regime, which one? Don't you think it's time? Mistake after mistake, land after land theft, innocent dead civilians like they mean nothing, when will Israel allow the Palestinians to live "somewhat" dignified lives? And plz don't tell me when they stop launching missiles at Israel. Give me something "real."yosi said:
I don't agree that Israel's internal politics will categorically never allow Palestinian autonomy, BUT I do agree that the current coalition government isn't going to do it.Drowned Out said:
I don't know when. I hope tomorrow.
I went to a life coach once, and they stressed the importance of making long-term goals (Step One). They then stressed the importance of breaking down the long-term goals into smaller chunks of progress that bring a person to that point (Step Two). They finally stressed the importance of chasing the smaller chunks of progress, which are tangible, can be measured, and are often not so daunting and quite realistic rather than the long-term goal which may not seem to be (Step Three). Emperors didn't simply wake up and aim to dominate the world - they planned, and claimed strategic locations which their end goal deemed necessary to reach that point.
You have claimed here that Israel is a broken and racist society. I'd tend to agree. It is also a democracy, that some (myself included) would argue still manages to cater to Jews above others (often in ways beyond the power by numbers a Jewish state affords them, and in ways that simply aren't democratic). This being said, change in favour of equality is an insurmountably large struggle when there is a minority empowered to change in ways that continue to empower them. There is no equality switch in Israel and the Palestinian territories which can be toggled to bring justice. There is a rope ladder to a better and more equal situation, where each rung, if haphazardously installed, threatens to destroy all progress thus far however minuscule it might seem.
To negate the value of steps like a Likud MK proposing Arabic as a second language in Israel to open both cultures to debate is akin to torching a rung.
I can't say I believe this peace can be mass manufactured - but it can be built in the garages of those who give a shit. And they're growing in number, both within Israel and outside of it.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 10 -
So now you're a zionist too?badbrains said:
My math gives it away? Hahaha, because since the day Israel was created, the Palestinians have been suffering since day 1. As I've said BEFORE, see if YOU, BS, can follow, I know it's fucken hard for you because you're slow, but try. Israel has the right to exist, and WILL exist. So do the Palestinians and Palestine. Here, I'll say it again, Israel has the right to exit and will exist. Now put your hard on away.BS44325 said:
That math gives away the game. It's not "the occupation" that bugs him...it's the existance of Israel at all.yosi said:
Your math is pretty interesting given that the occupation is only 48 years old. I wasn't aware that Israel was responsible for the lack of Palestinian autonomy while the West Bank was under Jordanian occupation (learn a new thing every day!).badbrains said:
It's been over 65 years and no governement of Israel has. When? And if not this regime, which one? Don't you think it's time? Mistake after mistake, land after land theft, innocent dead civilians like they mean nothing, when will Israel allow the Palestinians to live "somewhat" dignified lives? And plz don't tell me when they stop launching missiles at Israel. Give me something "real."yosi said:
I don't agree that Israel's internal politics will categorically never allow Palestinian autonomy, BUT I do agree that the current coalition government isn't going to do it.Drowned Out said:Is there really any hope for peace with the current government in Israel? When will the world admit that israel's internal politics will never allow Palestinian autonomy?
This is a small sampling of comments from cabinet ministers...the most powerful people in israel.
In Their Own Words: Senior Israeli Officials on the Palestinian Question
Prime Minister & Minister of Foreign Affairs Benjamin Netanyahu (Likud Party Leader)
[Question: If you are reelected prime minister, there will be no Palestinian state?] “Indeed.” - March 2015
“[A]s long as Likud is in power, we won't divide Jerusalem, we won't make concessions, we won't withdraw from land." - March 2015
“I think the Israeli people understand now what I always say: that there cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of the River Jordan [the occupied West Bank].” - July 2014
Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Tzipi Hotovely (Likud)
“We are opposed to a Palestinian state... [Netanyahu's 2009 declaration of support for a Palestinian state at Bar-Ilan University was] a tactical speech for the rest of the world." - December 2012
Minister of Education & Minister of Jerusalem and Diaspora Affairs Naftali Bennett (Jewish Home Party Leader)
"I will do everything in my power, forever, to fight against a Palestinian state being founded in the Land of Israel." - January 2013
Minister of Interior Silvan Shalom (Likud)
"We are all against a Palestinian state, there is no question about it." - May 2012
Deputy Minister of Defense (Rabbi) Eli Ben-Dahan (Jewish Home)
“We oppose a Palestinian state completely... As our party advocates, we need to take full control of Area C [60% of the occupied West Bank] and impose Israeli law there.” - February 2013
“[Palestinians] are beasts, they are not human.” - August 2013.
Minister of Internal Security, Minister of Tourism & Cabinet Liaison to the Knesset Yariv Levin (Likud)
“We will act to strengthen our hold on all parts of Eretz Israel, and will safeguard the settlement enterprise out of faith and the knowledge that exercising our rights to this land is our duty but also the best guarantee for Israel’s security.” - June 2013
“In this way, we will try, slowly but surely, to expand the circle of settlements, and to afterwards extend the roads that lead to them, and so forth. At the end of this process, the facts on the ground will be that whatever remains [of the occupied West Bank] will be merely marginal appendages… We fully agree and are completely united behind the prime minister’s position, which is to strengthen our foothold in the Land of Israel, to build in [occupied East] Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank]." - January 2013
“Even when the prime minister [Netanyahu] spoke about the issue of two states, he didn’t speak about a [Palestinian] state in the full sense. He spoke about a long range of conditions that he himself says there is no chance that they will be fulfilled in the near future due to the actions of the other side." - January 2013
Minister of Immigration and Absorption & Minister for Jerusalem Affairs Zeev Elkin (Likud)
“I certainly think a Palestinian state is no solution. And if I think a Palestinian state is no solution, that means I do want a Jewish presence here. Which raises the question: What do you do with the Palestinian population? And I don’t think the answer to that question can be found right now. But a Palestinian state is no solution, not for us and I don’t think for them either.” - July 2013
“We will try to apply sovereignty over the maximum [of the occupied West Bank] that we can at any given moment… It will take time to change people’s awareness but in the end this will penetrate. And then, what seems today like a fairy tale will eventually become political reality, and the reality on the ground.” - January 2013
Minister of Agriculture and Rural Development Uri Ariel (Jewish Home)
“…not even one settlement in Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] will be uprooted... Israeli citizens [settlers] will only be under full Israeli sovereignty. And west of the Jordan River there will only be one state and that is the state of Israel." - March 2014
“With God’s help we will continue building all the land of Israel and Jerusalem the capital… It must be made clear that this is only the beginning. This melody can’t be stopped… We can and will market thousands of [settlement] apartments in [occupied East] Jerusalem and there are more than 10,000 apartments ready for marketing in Judea and Samaria.” - August 2013
Minister of Transportation and Road Safety & Minister of Intelligence and Atomic Energy Yisrael Katz (Likud)
"I am opposed to a Palestinian state. It is unacceptable, mainly because of our rights to this land." - July 2013
Minister of Science, Technology, and Space Danny Danon (Likud)
“A deal giving up most of Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] – the current Likud leadership will not accept that... We [who oppose such steps] are the majority in the party.” - September 2013
“Look at the government: there was never a government discussion, resolution or vote about the two-state solution... If you will bring it to a vote in the government... you will see the majority of Likud ministers, along with the Jewish Home [party], will be against it… Today we’re not fighting it, but if there will be a move to promote a two-state solution, you will see forces blocking it within the [Likud] party and the government." - June 2013
"The long-term vision is to apply Jewish sovereignty over the Jewish communities [settlements] of Judea and Samaria, and I am proud of it.” - November 2012
http://imeu.org/article/in-their-own-words-senior-israeli-officials-on-the-palestinian-question
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Nah, just a human who cares about other people. Unlike your assBS44325 said:
So now you're a zionist too?badbrains said:
My math gives it away? Hahaha, because since the day Israel was created, the Palestinians have been suffering since day 1. As I've said BEFORE, see if YOU, BS, can follow, I know it's fucken hard for you because you're slow, but try. Israel has the right to exist, and WILL exist. So do the Palestinians and Palestine. Here, I'll say it again, Israel has the right to exit and will exist. Now put your hard on away.BS44325 said:
That math gives away the game. It's not "the occupation" that bugs him...it's the existance of Israel at all.yosi said:
Your math is pretty interesting given that the occupation is only 48 years old. I wasn't aware that Israel was responsible for the lack of Palestinian autonomy while the West Bank was under Jordanian occupation (learn a new thing every day!).badbrains said:
It's been over 65 years and no governement of Israel has. When? And if not this regime, which one? Don't you think it's time? Mistake after mistake, land after land theft, innocent dead civilians like they mean nothing, when will Israel allow the Palestinians to live "somewhat" dignified lives? And plz don't tell me when they stop launching missiles at Israel. Give me something "real."yosi said:
I don't agree that Israel's internal politics will categorically never allow Palestinian autonomy, BUT I do agree that the current coalition government isn't going to do it.Drowned Out said:Is there really any hope for peace with the current government in Israel? When will the world admit that israel's internal politics will never allow Palestinian autonomy?
This is a small sampling of comments from cabinet ministers...the most powerful people in israel.
In Their Own Words: Senior Israeli Officials on the Palestinian Question
Prime Minister & Minister of Foreign Affairs Benjamin Netanyahu (Likud Party Leader)
[Question: If you are reelected prime minister, there will be no Palestinian state?] “Indeed.” - March 2015
“[A]s long as Likud is in power, we won't divide Jerusalem, we won't make concessions, we won't withdraw from land." - March 2015
“I think the Israeli people understand now what I always say: that there cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of the River Jordan [the occupied West Bank].” - July 2014
Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Tzipi Hotovely (Likud)
“We are opposed to a Palestinian state... [Netanyahu's 2009 declaration of support for a Palestinian state at Bar-Ilan University was] a tactical speech for the rest of the world." - December 2012
Minister of Education & Minister of Jerusalem and Diaspora Affairs Naftali Bennett (Jewish Home Party Leader)
"I will do everything in my power, forever, to fight against a Palestinian state being founded in the Land of Israel." - January 2013
Minister of Interior Silvan Shalom (Likud)
"We are all against a Palestinian state, there is no question about it." - May 2012
Deputy Minister of Defense (Rabbi) Eli Ben-Dahan (Jewish Home)
“We oppose a Palestinian state completely... As our party advocates, we need to take full control of Area C [60% of the occupied West Bank] and impose Israeli law there.” - February 2013
“[Palestinians] are beasts, they are not human.” - August 2013.
Minister of Internal Security, Minister of Tourism & Cabinet Liaison to the Knesset Yariv Levin (Likud)
“We will act to strengthen our hold on all parts of Eretz Israel, and will safeguard the settlement enterprise out of faith and the knowledge that exercising our rights to this land is our duty but also the best guarantee for Israel’s security.” - June 2013
“In this way, we will try, slowly but surely, to expand the circle of settlements, and to afterwards extend the roads that lead to them, and so forth. At the end of this process, the facts on the ground will be that whatever remains [of the occupied West Bank] will be merely marginal appendages… We fully agree and are completely united behind the prime minister’s position, which is to strengthen our foothold in the Land of Israel, to build in [occupied East] Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank]." - January 2013
“Even when the prime minister [Netanyahu] spoke about the issue of two states, he didn’t speak about a [Palestinian] state in the full sense. He spoke about a long range of conditions that he himself says there is no chance that they will be fulfilled in the near future due to the actions of the other side." - January 2013
Minister of Immigration and Absorption & Minister for Jerusalem Affairs Zeev Elkin (Likud)
“I certainly think a Palestinian state is no solution. And if I think a Palestinian state is no solution, that means I do want a Jewish presence here. Which raises the question: What do you do with the Palestinian population? And I don’t think the answer to that question can be found right now. But a Palestinian state is no solution, not for us and I don’t think for them either.” - July 2013
“We will try to apply sovereignty over the maximum [of the occupied West Bank] that we can at any given moment… It will take time to change people’s awareness but in the end this will penetrate. And then, what seems today like a fairy tale will eventually become political reality, and the reality on the ground.” - January 2013
Minister of Agriculture and Rural Development Uri Ariel (Jewish Home)
“…not even one settlement in Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] will be uprooted... Israeli citizens [settlers] will only be under full Israeli sovereignty. And west of the Jordan River there will only be one state and that is the state of Israel." - March 2014
“With God’s help we will continue building all the land of Israel and Jerusalem the capital… It must be made clear that this is only the beginning. This melody can’t be stopped… We can and will market thousands of [settlement] apartments in [occupied East] Jerusalem and there are more than 10,000 apartments ready for marketing in Judea and Samaria.” - August 2013
Minister of Transportation and Road Safety & Minister of Intelligence and Atomic Energy Yisrael Katz (Likud)
"I am opposed to a Palestinian state. It is unacceptable, mainly because of our rights to this land." - July 2013
Minister of Science, Technology, and Space Danny Danon (Likud)
“A deal giving up most of Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] – the current Likud leadership will not accept that... We [who oppose such steps] are the majority in the party.” - September 2013
“Look at the government: there was never a government discussion, resolution or vote about the two-state solution... If you will bring it to a vote in the government... you will see the majority of Likud ministers, along with the Jewish Home [party], will be against it… Today we’re not fighting it, but if there will be a move to promote a two-state solution, you will see forces blocking it within the [Likud] party and the government." - June 2013
"The long-term vision is to apply Jewish sovereignty over the Jewish communities [settlements] of Judea and Samaria, and I am proud of it.” - November 2012
http://imeu.org/article/in-their-own-words-senior-israeli-officials-on-the-palestinian-question
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Well which is it? Please explain. I'm slooooooooow.badbrains said:
Nah, just a human who cares about other people. Unlike your assBS44325 said:
So now you're a zionist too?badbrains said:
My math gives it away? Hahaha, because since the day Israel was created, the Palestinians have been suffering since day 1. As I've said BEFORE, see if YOU, BS, can follow, I know it's fucken hard for you because you're slow, but try. Israel has the right to exist, and WILL exist. So do the Palestinians and Palestine. Here, I'll say it again, Israel has the right to exit and will exist. Now put your hard on away.BS44325 said:
That math gives away the game. It's not "the occupation" that bugs him...it's the existance of Israel at all.yosi said:
Your math is pretty interesting given that the occupation is only 48 years old. I wasn't aware that Israel was responsible for the lack of Palestinian autonomy while the West Bank was under Jordanian occupation (learn a new thing every day!).badbrains said:
It's been over 65 years and no governement of Israel has. When? And if not this regime, which one? Don't you think it's time? Mistake after mistake, land after land theft, innocent dead civilians like they mean nothing, when will Israel allow the Palestinians to live "somewhat" dignified lives? And plz don't tell me when they stop launching missiles at Israel. Give me something "real."yosi said:
I don't agree that Israel's internal politics will categorically never allow Palestinian autonomy, BUT I do agree that the current coalition government isn't going to do it.Drowned Out said:Is there really any hope for peace with the current government in Israel? When will the world admit that israel's internal politics will never allow Palestinian autonomy?
This is a small sampling of comments from cabinet ministers...the most powerful people in israel.
In Their Own Words: Senior Israeli Officials on the Palestinian Question
Prime Minister & Minister of Foreign Affairs Benjamin Netanyahu (Likud Party Leader)
[Question: If you are reelected prime minister, there will be no Palestinian state?] “Indeed.” - March 2015
“[A]s long as Likud is in power, we won't divide Jerusalem, we won't make concessions, we won't withdraw from land." - March 2015
“I think the Israeli people understand now what I always say: that there cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of the River Jordan [the occupied West Bank].” - July 2014
Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Tzipi Hotovely (Likud)
“We are opposed to a Palestinian state... [Netanyahu's 2009 declaration of support for a Palestinian state at Bar-Ilan University was] a tactical speech for the rest of the world." - December 2012
Minister of Education & Minister of Jerusalem and Diaspora Affairs Naftali Bennett (Jewish Home Party Leader)
"I will do everything in my power, forever, to fight against a Palestinian state being founded in the Land of Israel." - January 2013
Minister of Interior Silvan Shalom (Likud)
"We are all against a Palestinian state, there is no question about it." - May 2012
Deputy Minister of Defense (Rabbi) Eli Ben-Dahan (Jewish Home)
“We oppose a Palestinian state completely... As our party advocates, we need to take full control of Area C [60% of the occupied West Bank] and impose Israeli law there.” - February 2013
“[Palestinians] are beasts, they are not human.” - August 2013.
Minister of Internal Security, Minister of Tourism & Cabinet Liaison to the Knesset Yariv Levin (Likud)
“We will act to strengthen our hold on all parts of Eretz Israel, and will safeguard the settlement enterprise out of faith and the knowledge that exercising our rights to this land is our duty but also the best guarantee for Israel’s security.” - June 2013
“In this way, we will try, slowly but surely, to expand the circle of settlements, and to afterwards extend the roads that lead to them, and so forth. At the end of this process, the facts on the ground will be that whatever remains [of the occupied West Bank] will be merely marginal appendages… We fully agree and are completely united behind the prime minister’s position, which is to strengthen our foothold in the Land of Israel, to build in [occupied East] Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank]." - January 2013
“Even when the prime minister [Netanyahu] spoke about the issue of two states, he didn’t speak about a [Palestinian] state in the full sense. He spoke about a long range of conditions that he himself says there is no chance that they will be fulfilled in the near future due to the actions of the other side." - January 2013
Minister of Immigration and Absorption & Minister for Jerusalem Affairs Zeev Elkin (Likud)
“I certainly think a Palestinian state is no solution. And if I think a Palestinian state is no solution, that means I do want a Jewish presence here. Which raises the question: What do you do with the Palestinian population? And I don’t think the answer to that question can be found right now. But a Palestinian state is no solution, not for us and I don’t think for them either.” - July 2013
“We will try to apply sovereignty over the maximum [of the occupied West Bank] that we can at any given moment… It will take time to change people’s awareness but in the end this will penetrate. And then, what seems today like a fairy tale will eventually become political reality, and the reality on the ground.” - January 2013
Minister of Agriculture and Rural Development Uri Ariel (Jewish Home)
“…not even one settlement in Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] will be uprooted... Israeli citizens [settlers] will only be under full Israeli sovereignty. And west of the Jordan River there will only be one state and that is the state of Israel." - March 2014
“With God’s help we will continue building all the land of Israel and Jerusalem the capital… It must be made clear that this is only the beginning. This melody can’t be stopped… We can and will market thousands of [settlement] apartments in [occupied East] Jerusalem and there are more than 10,000 apartments ready for marketing in Judea and Samaria.” - August 2013
Minister of Transportation and Road Safety & Minister of Intelligence and Atomic Energy Yisrael Katz (Likud)
"I am opposed to a Palestinian state. It is unacceptable, mainly because of our rights to this land." - July 2013
Minister of Science, Technology, and Space Danny Danon (Likud)
“A deal giving up most of Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] – the current Likud leadership will not accept that... We [who oppose such steps] are the majority in the party.” - September 2013
“Look at the government: there was never a government discussion, resolution or vote about the two-state solution... If you will bring it to a vote in the government... you will see the majority of Likud ministers, along with the Jewish Home [party], will be against it… Today we’re not fighting it, but if there will be a move to promote a two-state solution, you will see forces blocking it within the [Likud] party and the government." - June 2013
"The long-term vision is to apply Jewish sovereignty over the Jewish communities [settlements] of Judea and Samaria, and I am proud of it.” - November 2012
http://imeu.org/article/in-their-own-words-senior-israeli-officials-on-the-palestinian-question
I don't know when. I hope tomorrow.
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I know you are. So, what am I?BS44325 said:
So now you're a zionist too?badbrains said:
My math gives it away? Hahaha, because since the day Israel was created, the Palestinians have been suffering since day 1. As I've said BEFORE, see if YOU, BS, can follow, I know it's fucken hard for you because you're slow, but try. Israel has the right to exist, and WILL exist. So do the Palestinians and Palestine. Here, I'll say it again, Israel has the right to exit and will exist. Now put your hard on away.BS44325 said:
That math gives away the game. It's not "the occupation" that bugs him...it's the existance of Israel at all.yosi said:
Your math is pretty interesting given that the occupation is only 48 years old. I wasn't aware that Israel was responsible for the lack of Palestinian autonomy while the West Bank was under Jordanian occupation (learn a new thing every day!).badbrains said:
It's been over 65 years and no governement of Israel has. When? And if not this regime, which one? Don't you think it's time? Mistake after mistake, land after land theft, innocent dead civilians like they mean nothing, when will Israel allow the Palestinians to live "somewhat" dignified lives? And plz don't tell me when they stop launching missiles at Israel. Give me something "real."yosi said:
I don't agree that Israel's internal politics will categorically never allow Palestinian autonomy, BUT I do agree that the current coalition government isn't going to do it.Drowned Out said:Is there really any hope for peace with the current government in Israel? When will the world admit that israel's internal politics will never allow Palestinian autonomy?
This is a small sampling of comments from cabinet ministers...the most powerful people in israel.
In Their Own Words: Senior Israeli Officials on the Palestinian Question
Prime Minister & Minister of Foreign Affairs Benjamin Netanyahu (Likud Party Leader)
[Question: If you are reelected prime minister, there will be no Palestinian state?] “Indeed.” - March 2015
“[A]s long as Likud is in power, we won't divide Jerusalem, we won't make concessions, we won't withdraw from land." - March 2015
“I think the Israeli people understand now what I always say: that there cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of the River Jordan [the occupied West Bank].” - July 2014
Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Tzipi Hotovely (Likud)
“We are opposed to a Palestinian state... [Netanyahu's 2009 declaration of support for a Palestinian state at Bar-Ilan University was] a tactical speech for the rest of the world." - December 2012
Minister of Education & Minister of Jerusalem and Diaspora Affairs Naftali Bennett (Jewish Home Party Leader)
"I will do everything in my power, forever, to fight against a Palestinian state being founded in the Land of Israel." - January 2013
Minister of Interior Silvan Shalom (Likud)
"We are all against a Palestinian state, there is no question about it." - May 2012
Deputy Minister of Defense (Rabbi) Eli Ben-Dahan (Jewish Home)
“We oppose a Palestinian state completely... As our party advocates, we need to take full control of Area C [60% of the occupied West Bank] and impose Israeli law there.” - February 2013
“[Palestinians] are beasts, they are not human.” - August 2013.
Minister of Internal Security, Minister of Tourism & Cabinet Liaison to the Knesset Yariv Levin (Likud)
“We will act to strengthen our hold on all parts of Eretz Israel, and will safeguard the settlement enterprise out of faith and the knowledge that exercising our rights to this land is our duty but also the best guarantee for Israel’s security.” - June 2013
“In this way, we will try, slowly but surely, to expand the circle of settlements, and to afterwards extend the roads that lead to them, and so forth. At the end of this process, the facts on the ground will be that whatever remains [of the occupied West Bank] will be merely marginal appendages… We fully agree and are completely united behind the prime minister’s position, which is to strengthen our foothold in the Land of Israel, to build in [occupied East] Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank]." - January 2013
“Even when the prime minister [Netanyahu] spoke about the issue of two states, he didn’t speak about a [Palestinian] state in the full sense. He spoke about a long range of conditions that he himself says there is no chance that they will be fulfilled in the near future due to the actions of the other side." - January 2013
Minister of Immigration and Absorption & Minister for Jerusalem Affairs Zeev Elkin (Likud)
“I certainly think a Palestinian state is no solution. And if I think a Palestinian state is no solution, that means I do want a Jewish presence here. Which raises the question: What do you do with the Palestinian population? And I don’t think the answer to that question can be found right now. But a Palestinian state is no solution, not for us and I don’t think for them either.” - July 2013
“We will try to apply sovereignty over the maximum [of the occupied West Bank] that we can at any given moment… It will take time to change people’s awareness but in the end this will penetrate. And then, what seems today like a fairy tale will eventually become political reality, and the reality on the ground.” - January 2013
Minister of Agriculture and Rural Development Uri Ariel (Jewish Home)
“…not even one settlement in Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] will be uprooted... Israeli citizens [settlers] will only be under full Israeli sovereignty. And west of the Jordan River there will only be one state and that is the state of Israel." - March 2014
“With God’s help we will continue building all the land of Israel and Jerusalem the capital… It must be made clear that this is only the beginning. This melody can’t be stopped… We can and will market thousands of [settlement] apartments in [occupied East] Jerusalem and there are more than 10,000 apartments ready for marketing in Judea and Samaria.” - August 2013
Minister of Transportation and Road Safety & Minister of Intelligence and Atomic Energy Yisrael Katz (Likud)
"I am opposed to a Palestinian state. It is unacceptable, mainly because of our rights to this land." - July 2013
Minister of Science, Technology, and Space Danny Danon (Likud)
“A deal giving up most of Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] – the current Likud leadership will not accept that... We [who oppose such steps] are the majority in the party.” - September 2013
“Look at the government: there was never a government discussion, resolution or vote about the two-state solution... If you will bring it to a vote in the government... you will see the majority of Likud ministers, along with the Jewish Home [party], will be against it… Today we’re not fighting it, but if there will be a move to promote a two-state solution, you will see forces blocking it within the [Likud] party and the government." - June 2013
"The long-term vision is to apply Jewish sovereignty over the Jewish communities [settlements] of Judea and Samaria, and I am proud of it.” - November 2012
http://imeu.org/article/in-their-own-words-senior-israeli-officials-on-the-palestinian-question
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Are you guys for real?Halifax2TheMax said:
I know you are. So, what am I?BS44325 said:
So now you're a zionist too?badbrains said:
My math gives it away? Hahaha, because since the day Israel was created, the Palestinians have been suffering since day 1. As I've said BEFORE, see if YOU, BS, can follow, I know it's fucken hard for you because you're slow, but try. Israel has the right to exist, and WILL exist. So do the Palestinians and Palestine. Here, I'll say it again, Israel has the right to exit and will exist. Now put your hard on away.BS44325 said:
That math gives away the game. It's not "the occupation" that bugs him...it's the existance of Israel at all.yosi said:
Your math is pretty interesting given that the occupation is only 48 years old. I wasn't aware that Israel was responsible for the lack of Palestinian autonomy while the West Bank was under Jordanian occupation (learn a new thing every day!).badbrains said:
It's been over 65 years and no governement of Israel has. When? And if not this regime, which one? Don't you think it's time? Mistake after mistake, land after land theft, innocent dead civilians like they mean nothing, when will Israel allow the Palestinians to live "somewhat" dignified lives? And plz don't tell me when they stop launching missiles at Israel. Give me something "real."yosi said:
I don't agree that Israel's internal politics will categorically never allow Palestinian autonomy, BUT I do agree that the current coalition government isn't going to do it.Drowned Out said:Is there really any hope for peace with the current government in Israel? When will the world admit that israel's internal politics will never allow Palestinian autonomy?
This is a small sampling of comments from cabinet ministers...the most powerful people in israel.
In Their Own Words: Senior Israeli Officials on the Palestinian Question
Prime Minister & Minister of Foreign Affairs Benjamin Netanyahu (Likud Party Leader)
[Question: If you are reelected prime minister, there will be no Palestinian state?] “Indeed.” - March 2015
“[A]s long as Likud is in power, we won't divide Jerusalem, we won't make concessions, we won't withdraw from land." - March 2015
“I think the Israeli people understand now what I always say: that there cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of the River Jordan [the occupied West Bank].” - July 2014
Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Tzipi Hotovely (Likud)
“We are opposed to a Palestinian state... [Netanyahu's 2009 declaration of support for a Palestinian state at Bar-Ilan University was] a tactical speech for the rest of the world." - December 2012
Minister of Education & Minister of Jerusalem and Diaspora Affairs Naftali Bennett (Jewish Home Party Leader)
"I will do everything in my power, forever, to fight against a Palestinian state being founded in the Land of Israel." - January 2013
Minister of Interior Silvan Shalom (Likud)
"We are all against a Palestinian state, there is no question about it." - May 2012
Deputy Minister of Defense (Rabbi) Eli Ben-Dahan (Jewish Home)
“We oppose a Palestinian state completely... As our party advocates, we need to take full control of Area C [60% of the occupied West Bank] and impose Israeli law there.” - February 2013
“[Palestinians] are beasts, they are not human.” - August 2013.
Minister of Internal Security, Minister of Tourism & Cabinet Liaison to the Knesset Yariv Levin (Likud)
“We will act to strengthen our hold on all parts of Eretz Israel, and will safeguard the settlement enterprise out of faith and the knowledge that exercising our rights to this land is our duty but also the best guarantee for Israel’s security.” - June 2013
“In this way, we will try, slowly but surely, to expand the circle of settlements, and to afterwards extend the roads that lead to them, and so forth. At the end of this process, the facts on the ground will be that whatever remains [of the occupied West Bank] will be merely marginal appendages… We fully agree and are completely united behind the prime minister’s position, which is to strengthen our foothold in the Land of Israel, to build in [occupied East] Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank]." - January 2013
“Even when the prime minister [Netanyahu] spoke about the issue of two states, he didn’t speak about a [Palestinian] state in the full sense. He spoke about a long range of conditions that he himself says there is no chance that they will be fulfilled in the near future due to the actions of the other side." - January 2013
Minister of Immigration and Absorption & Minister for Jerusalem Affairs Zeev Elkin (Likud)
“I certainly think a Palestinian state is no solution. And if I think a Palestinian state is no solution, that means I do want a Jewish presence here. Which raises the question: What do you do with the Palestinian population? And I don’t think the answer to that question can be found right now. But a Palestinian state is no solution, not for us and I don’t think for them either.” - July 2013
“We will try to apply sovereignty over the maximum [of the occupied West Bank] that we can at any given moment… It will take time to change people’s awareness but in the end this will penetrate. And then, what seems today like a fairy tale will eventually become political reality, and the reality on the ground.” - January 2013
Minister of Agriculture and Rural Development Uri Ariel (Jewish Home)
“…not even one settlement in Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] will be uprooted... Israeli citizens [settlers] will only be under full Israeli sovereignty. And west of the Jordan River there will only be one state and that is the state of Israel." - March 2014
“With God’s help we will continue building all the land of Israel and Jerusalem the capital… It must be made clear that this is only the beginning. This melody can’t be stopped… We can and will market thousands of [settlement] apartments in [occupied East] Jerusalem and there are more than 10,000 apartments ready for marketing in Judea and Samaria.” - August 2013
Minister of Transportation and Road Safety & Minister of Intelligence and Atomic Energy Yisrael Katz (Likud)
"I am opposed to a Palestinian state. It is unacceptable, mainly because of our rights to this land." - July 2013
Minister of Science, Technology, and Space Danny Danon (Likud)
“A deal giving up most of Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] – the current Likud leadership will not accept that... We [who oppose such steps] are the majority in the party.” - September 2013
“Look at the government: there was never a government discussion, resolution or vote about the two-state solution... If you will bring it to a vote in the government... you will see the majority of Likud ministers, along with the Jewish Home [party], will be against it… Today we’re not fighting it, but if there will be a move to promote a two-state solution, you will see forces blocking it within the [Likud] party and the government." - June 2013
"The long-term vision is to apply Jewish sovereignty over the Jewish communities [settlements] of Judea and Samaria, and I am proud of it.” - November 2012
http://imeu.org/article/in-their-own-words-senior-israeli-officials-on-the-palestinian-question
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that's evidentBS44325 said:
Well which is it? Please explain. I'm slooooooooow.badbrains said:
Nah, just a human who cares about other people. Unlike your assBS44325 said:
So now you're a zionist too?badbrains said:
My math gives it away? Hahaha, because since the day Israel was created, the Palestinians have been suffering since day 1. As I've said BEFORE, see if YOU, BS, can follow, I know it's fucken hard for you because you're slow, but try. Israel has the right to exist, and WILL exist. So do the Palestinians and Palestine. Here, I'll say it again, Israel has the right to exit and will exist. Now put your hard on away.BS44325 said:
That math gives away the game. It's not "the occupation" that bugs him...it's the existance of Israel at all.yosi said:
Your math is pretty interesting given that the occupation is only 48 years old. I wasn't aware that Israel was responsible for the lack of Palestinian autonomy while the West Bank was under Jordanian occupation (learn a new thing every day!).badbrains said:
It's been over 65 years and no governement of Israel has. When? And if not this regime, which one? Don't you think it's time? Mistake after mistake, land after land theft, innocent dead civilians like they mean nothing, when will Israel allow the Palestinians to live "somewhat" dignified lives? And plz don't tell me when they stop launching missiles at Israel. Give me something "real."yosi said:
I don't agree that Israel's internal politics will categorically never allow Palestinian autonomy, BUT I do agree that the current coalition government isn't going to do it.Drowned Out said:Is there really any hope for peace with the current government in Israel? When will the world admit that israel's internal politics will never allow Palestinian autonomy?
This is a small sampling of comments from cabinet ministers...the most powerful people in israel.
In Their Own Words: Senior Israeli Officials on the Palestinian Question
Prime Minister & Minister of Foreign Affairs Benjamin Netanyahu (Likud Party Leader)
[Question: If you are reelected prime minister, there will be no Palestinian state?] “Indeed.” - March 2015
“[A]s long as Likud is in power, we won't divide Jerusalem, we won't make concessions, we won't withdraw from land." - March 2015
“I think the Israeli people understand now what I always say: that there cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of the River Jordan [the occupied West Bank].” - July 2014
Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Tzipi Hotovely (Likud)
“We are opposed to a Palestinian state... [Netanyahu's 2009 declaration of support for a Palestinian state at Bar-Ilan University was] a tactical speech for the rest of the world." - December 2012
Minister of Education & Minister of Jerusalem and Diaspora Affairs Naftali Bennett (Jewish Home Party Leader)
"I will do everything in my power, forever, to fight against a Palestinian state being founded in the Land of Israel." - January 2013
Minister of Interior Silvan Shalom (Likud)
"We are all against a Palestinian state, there is no question about it." - May 2012
Deputy Minister of Defense (Rabbi) Eli Ben-Dahan (Jewish Home)
“We oppose a Palestinian state completely... As our party advocates, we need to take full control of Area C [60% of the occupied West Bank] and impose Israeli law there.” - February 2013
“[Palestinians] are beasts, they are not human.” - August 2013.
Minister of Internal Security, Minister of Tourism & Cabinet Liaison to the Knesset Yariv Levin (Likud)
“We will act to strengthen our hold on all parts of Eretz Israel, and will safeguard the settlement enterprise out of faith and the knowledge that exercising our rights to this land is our duty but also the best guarantee for Israel’s security.” - June 2013
“In this way, we will try, slowly but surely, to expand the circle of settlements, and to afterwards extend the roads that lead to them, and so forth. At the end of this process, the facts on the ground will be that whatever remains [of the occupied West Bank] will be merely marginal appendages… We fully agree and are completely united behind the prime minister’s position, which is to strengthen our foothold in the Land of Israel, to build in [occupied East] Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank]." - January 2013
“Even when the prime minister [Netanyahu] spoke about the issue of two states, he didn’t speak about a [Palestinian] state in the full sense. He spoke about a long range of conditions that he himself says there is no chance that they will be fulfilled in the near future due to the actions of the other side." - January 2013
Minister of Immigration and Absorption & Minister for Jerusalem Affairs Zeev Elkin (Likud)
“I certainly think a Palestinian state is no solution. And if I think a Palestinian state is no solution, that means I do want a Jewish presence here. Which raises the question: What do you do with the Palestinian population? And I don’t think the answer to that question can be found right now. But a Palestinian state is no solution, not for us and I don’t think for them either.” - July 2013
“We will try to apply sovereignty over the maximum [of the occupied West Bank] that we can at any given moment… It will take time to change people’s awareness but in the end this will penetrate. And then, what seems today like a fairy tale will eventually become political reality, and the reality on the ground.” - January 2013
Minister of Agriculture and Rural Development Uri Ariel (Jewish Home)
“…not even one settlement in Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] will be uprooted... Israeli citizens [settlers] will only be under full Israeli sovereignty. And west of the Jordan River there will only be one state and that is the state of Israel." - March 2014
“With God’s help we will continue building all the land of Israel and Jerusalem the capital… It must be made clear that this is only the beginning. This melody can’t be stopped… We can and will market thousands of [settlement] apartments in [occupied East] Jerusalem and there are more than 10,000 apartments ready for marketing in Judea and Samaria.” - August 2013
Minister of Transportation and Road Safety & Minister of Intelligence and Atomic Energy Yisrael Katz (Likud)
"I am opposed to a Palestinian state. It is unacceptable, mainly because of our rights to this land." - July 2013
Minister of Science, Technology, and Space Danny Danon (Likud)
“A deal giving up most of Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] – the current Likud leadership will not accept that... We [who oppose such steps] are the majority in the party.” - September 2013
“Look at the government: there was never a government discussion, resolution or vote about the two-state solution... If you will bring it to a vote in the government... you will see the majority of Likud ministers, along with the Jewish Home [party], will be against it… Today we’re not fighting it, but if there will be a move to promote a two-state solution, you will see forces blocking it within the [Likud] party and the government." - June 2013
"The long-term vision is to apply Jewish sovereignty over the Jewish communities [settlements] of Judea and Samaria, and I am proud of it.” - November 2012
http://imeu.org/article/in-their-own-words-senior-israeli-officials-on-the-palestinian-question
I don't know when. I hope tomorrow.0 -
Are you choosing to dodge the question? If it wasn't clear please explain how your belief in the right for Israel to exist doesn't make you a zionist? I have heard other people make that claim before but I'm curious how you personally explain it.badbrains said:
that's evidentBS44325 said:
Well which is it? Please explain. I'm slooooooooow.badbrains said:
Nah, just a human who cares about other people. Unlike your assBS44325 said:
So now you're a zionist too?badbrains said:
My math gives it away? Hahaha, because since the day Israel was created, the Palestinians have been suffering since day 1. As I've said BEFORE, see if YOU, BS, can follow, I know it's fucken hard for you because you're slow, but try. Israel has the right to exist, and WILL exist. So do the Palestinians and Palestine. Here, I'll say it again, Israel has the right to exit and will exist. Now put your hard on away.BS44325 said:
That math gives away the game. It's not "the occupation" that bugs him...it's the existance of Israel at all.yosi said:
Your math is pretty interesting given that the occupation is only 48 years old. I wasn't aware that Israel was responsible for the lack of Palestinian autonomy while the West Bank was under Jordanian occupation (learn a new thing every day!).badbrains said:
It's been over 65 years and no governement of Israel has. When? And if not this regime, which one? Don't you think it's time? Mistake after mistake, land after land theft, innocent dead civilians like they mean nothing, when will Israel allow the Palestinians to live "somewhat" dignified lives? And plz don't tell me when they stop launching missiles at Israel. Give me something "real."yosi said:
I don't agree that Israel's internal politics will categorically never allow Palestinian autonomy, BUT I do agree that the current coalition government isn't going to do it.Drowned Out said:Is there really any hope for peace with the current government in Israel? When will the world admit that israel's internal politics will never allow Palestinian autonomy?
This is a small sampling of comments from cabinet ministers...the most powerful people in israel.
Minister of Interior Silvan Shalom (Likud)
"We are all against a Palestinian state, there is no question about it." - May 2012
Deputy Minister of Defense (Rabbi) Eli Ben-Dahan (Jewish Home)
“We oppose a Palestinian state completely... As our party advocates, we need to take full control of Area C [60% of the occupied West Bank] and impose Israeli law there.” - February 2013
“[Palestinians] are beasts, they are not human.” - August 2013.
Minister of Internal Security, Minister of Tourism & Cabinet Liaison to the Knesset Yariv Levin (Likud)
“We will act to strengthen our hold on all parts of Eretz Israel, and will safeguard the settlement enterprise out of faith and the knowledge that exercising our rights to this land is our duty but also the best guarantee for Israel’s security.” - June 2013
“In this way, we will try, slowly but surely, to expand the circle of settlements, and to afterwards extend the roads that lead to them, and so forth. At the end of this process, the facts on the ground will be that whatever remains [of the occupied West Bank] will be merely marginal appendages… We fully agree and are completely united behind the prime minister’s position, which is to strengthen our foothold in the Land of Israel, to build in [occupied East] Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank]." - January 2013
“Even when the prime minister [Netanyahu] spoke about the issue of two states, he didn’t speak about a [Palestinian] state in the full sense. He spoke about a long range of conditions that he himself says there is no chance that they will be fulfilled in the near future due to the actions of the other side." - January 2013
Minister of Immigration and Absorption & Minister for Jerusalem Affairs Zeev Elkin (Likud)
“I certainly think a Palestinian state is no solution. And if I think a Palestinian state is no solution, that means I do want a Jewish presence here. Which raises the question: What do you do with the Palestinian population? And I don’t think the answer to that question can be found right now. But a Palestinian state is no solution, not for us and I don’t think for them either.” - July 2013
“We will try to apply sovereignty over the maximum [of the occupied West Bank] that we can at any given moment… It will take time to change people’s awareness but in the end this will penetrate. And then, what seems today like a fairy tale will eventually become political reality, and the reality on the ground.” - January 2013
Minister of Agriculture and Rural Development Uri Ariel (Jewish Home)
“…not even one settlement in Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] will be uprooted... Israeli citizens [settlers] will only be under full Israeli sovereignty. And west of the Jordan River there will only be one state and that is the state of Israel." - March 2014
“With God’s help we will continue building all the land of Israel and Jerusalem the capital… It must be made clear that this is only the beginning. This melody can’t be stopped… We can and will market thousands of [settlement] apartments in [occupied East] Jerusalem and there are more than 10,000 apartments ready for marketing in Judea and Samaria.” - August 2013
Minister of Transportation and Road Safety & Minister of Intelligence and Atomic Energy Yisrael Katz (Likud)
"I am opposed to a Palestinian state. It is unacceptable, mainly because of our rights to this land." - July 2013
Minister of Science, Technology, and Space Danny Danon (Likud)
“A deal giving up most of Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] – the current Likud leadership will not accept that... We [who oppose such steps] are the majority in the party.” - September 2013
“Look at the government: there was never a government discussion, resolution or vote about the two-state solution... If you will bring it to a vote in the government... you will see the majority of Likud ministers, along with the Jewish Home [party], will be against it… Today we’re not fighting it, but if there will be a move to promote a two-state solution, you will see forces blocking it within the [Likud] party and the government." - June 2013
"The long-term vision is to apply Jewish sovereignty over the Jewish communities [settlements] of Judea and Samaria, and I am proud of it.” - November 2012
http://imeu.org/article/in-their-own-words-senior-israeli-officials-on-the-palestinian-question
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In Their Own Words: Senior Israeli Officials on the Palestinian Question
Prime Minister & Minister of Foreign Affairs Benjamin Netanyahu (Likud Party Leader)
[Question: If you are reelected prime minister, there will be no Palestinian state?] “Indeed.” - March 2015
“[A]s long as Likud is in power, we won't divide Jerusalem, we won't make concessions, we won't withdraw from land." - March 2015
“I think the Israeli people understand now what I always say: that there cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of the River Jordan [the occupied West Bank].” - July 2014
Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Tzipi Hotovely (Likud)
“We are opposed to a Palestinian state... [Netanyahu's 2009 declaration of support for a Palestinian state at Bar-Ilan University was] a tactical speech for the rest of the world." - December 2012
Minister of Education & Minister of Jerusalem and Diaspora Affairs Naftali Bennett (Jewish Home Party Leader)
"I will do everything in my power, forever, to fight against a Palestinian state being founded in the Land of Israel." - January 2013
Minister of Interior Silvan Shalom (Likud)
"We are all against a Palestinian state, there is no question about it." - May 2012
Deputy Minister of Defense (Rabbi) Eli Ben-Dahan (Jewish Home)
“We oppose a Palestinian state completely... As our party advocates, we need to take full control of Area C [60% of the occupied West Bank] and impose Israeli law there.” - February 2013
“[Palestinians] are beasts, they are not human.” - August 2013.
Minister of Internal Security, Minister of Tourism & Cabinet Liaison to the Knesset Yariv Levin (Likud)
“We will act to strengthen our hold on all parts of Eretz Israel, and will safeguard the settlement enterprise out of faith and the knowledge that exercising our rights to this land is our duty but also the best guarantee for Israel’s security.” - June 2013
“In this way, we will try, slowly but surely, to expand the circle of settlements, and to afterwards extend the roads that lead to them, and so forth. At the end of this process, the facts on the ground will be that whatever remains [of the occupied West Bank] will be merely marginal appendages… We fully agree and are completely united behind the prime minister’s position, which is to strengthen our foothold in the Land of Israel, to build in [occupied East] Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank]." - January 2013
“Even when the prime minister [Netanyahu] spoke about the issue of two states, he didn’t speak about a [Palestinian] state in the full sense. He spoke about a long range of conditions that he himself says there is no chance that they will be fulfilled in the near future due to the actions of the other side." - January 2013
Minister of Immigration and Absorption & Minister for Jerusalem Affairs Zeev Elkin (Likud)
“I certainly think a Palestinian state is no solution. And if I think a Palestinian state is no solution, that means I do want a Jewish presence here. Which raises the question: What do you do with the Palestinian population? And I don’t think the answer to that question can be found right now. But a Palestinian state is no solution, not for us and I don’t think for them either.” - July 2013
“We will try to apply sovereignty over the maximum [of the occupied West Bank] that we can at any given moment… It will take time to change people’s awareness but in the end this will penetrate. And then, what seems today like a fairy tale will eventually become political reality, and the reality on the ground.” - January 2013
Minister of Agriculture and Rural Development Uri Ariel (Jewish Home)
“…not even one settlement in Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] will be uprooted... Israeli citizens [settlers] will only be under full Israeli sovereignty. And west of the Jordan River there will only be one state and that is the state of Israel." - March 2014
“With God’s help we will continue building all the land of Israel and Jerusalem the capital… It must be made clear that this is only the beginning. This melody can’t be stopped… We can and will market thousands of [settlement] apartments in [occupied East] Jerusalem and there are more than 10,000 apartments ready for marketing in Judea and Samaria.” - August 2013
Minister of Transportation and Road Safety & Minister of Intelligence and Atomic Energy Yisrael Katz (Likud)
"I am opposed to a Palestinian state. It is unacceptable, mainly because of our rights to this land." - July 2013
Minister of Science, Technology, and Space Danny Danon (Likud)
“A deal giving up most of Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] – the current Likud leadership will not accept that... We [who oppose such steps] are the majority in the party.” - September 2013
“Look at the government: there was never a government discussion, resolution or vote about the two-state solution... If you will bring it to a vote in the government... you will see the majority of Likud ministers, along with the Jewish Home [party], will be against it… Today we’re not fighting it, but if there will be a move to promote a two-state solution, you will see forces blocking it within the [Likud] party and the government." - June 2013
"The long-term vision is to apply Jewish sovereignty over the Jewish communities [settlements] of Judea and Samaria, and I am proud of it.” - November 2012
http://imeu.org/article/in-their-own-words-senior-israeli-officials-on-the-palestinian-question
I don't agree that Israel's internal politics will categorically never allow Palestinian autonomy, BUT I do agree that the current coalition government isn't going to do it.
It's been over 65 years and no governement of Israel has. When? And if not this regime, which one? Don't you think it's time? Mistake after mistake, land after land theft, innocent dead civilians like they mean nothing, when will Israel allow the Palestinians to live "somewhat" dignified lives? And plz don't tell me when they stop launching missiles at Israel. Give me something "real."
Your math is pretty interesting given that the occupation is only 48 years old. I wasn't aware that Israel was responsible for the lack of Palestinian autonomy while the West Bank was under Jordanian occupation (learn a new thing every day!).
I don't know when. I hope tomorrow.
That math gives away the game. It's not "the occupation" that bugs him...it's the existance of Israel at all.
My math gives it away? Hahaha, because since the day Israel was created, the Palestinians have been suffering since day 1. As I've said BEFORE, see if YOU, BS, can follow, I know it's fucken hard for you because you're slow, but try. Israel has the right to exist, and WILL exist. So do the Palestinians and Palestine. Here, I'll say it again, Israel has the right to exit and will exist. Now put your hard on away.
So now you're a zionist too?
I know you are. So, what am I?
Are you guys for real?
Yea, I'm for real. What are you? A Zionist? If not, what? Are you embarrassed of yourself? It's okay if you are and if so, at least admit it. And if not, then what are you? An apologist? A neo-conservative evangelical? Why the embarrassment?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Are you guys for real?Halifax2TheMax said:
I know you are. So, what am I?
Halifax - Yea, I'm for real. What are you? A Zionist? If not, what? Are you embarrassed of yourself? It's okay if you are and if so, at least admit it. And if not, then what are you? An apologist? A neo-conservative evangelical? Why the embarrassment?
BS - As I have said many times I believe Israel should be able to exist as a Jewish state with protections for minorities. If that makes me a Zionist so be it. I don't think it's a bad word. I also believe a Palestinian state should exist. Nothing to be embarrassed about. I don't understand the premise of your question?
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Wait, let me get this straight. Because I know reality and know that Israel isn't going anywhere, and have "accepted" that, that makes me a Zionist? Really? you take the yellow cake BS.BS44325 said:
Are you choosing to dodge the question? If it wasn't clear please explain how your belief in the right for Israel to exist doesn't make you a zionist? I have heard other people make that claim before but I'm curious how you personally explain it.badbrains said:
that's evidentBS44325 said:
Well which is it? Please explain. I'm slooooooooow.badbrains said:
Nah, just a human who cares about other people. Unlike your assBS44325 said:
So now you're a zionist too?badbrains said:
My math gives it away? Hahaha, because since the day Israel was created, the Palestinians have been suffering since day 1. As I've said BEFORE, see if YOU, BS, can follow, I know it's fucken hard for you because you're slow, but try. Israel has the right to exist, and WILL exist. So do the Palestinians and Palestine. Here, I'll say it again, Israel has the right to exit and will exist. Now put your hard on away.BS44325 said:
That math gives away the game. It's not "the occupation" that bugs him...it's the existance of Israel at all.yosi said:
Your math is pretty interesting given that the occupation is only 48 years old. I wasn't aware that Israel was responsible for the lack of Palestinian autonomy while the West Bank was under Jordanian occupation (learn a new thing every day!).badbrains said:
It's been over 65 years and no governement of Israel has. When? And if not this regime, which one? Don't you think it's time? Mistake after mistake, land after land theft, innocent dead civilians like they mean nothing, when will Israel allow the Palestinians to live "somewhat" dignified lives? And plz don't tell me when they stop launching missiles at Israel. Give me something "real."yosi said:
I don't agree that Israel's internal politics will categorically never allow Palestinian autonomy, BUT I do agree that the current coalition government isn't going to do it.Drowned Out said:Is there really any hope for peace with the current government in Israel? When will the world admit that israel's internal politics will never allow Palestinian autonomy?
This is a small sampling of comments from cabinet ministers...the most powerful people in israel.
Minister of Interior Silvan Shalom (Likud)
"We are all against a Palestinian state, there is no question about it." - May 2012
Deputy Minister of Defense (Rabbi) Eli Ben-Dahan (Jewish Home)
“We oppose a Palestinian state completely... As our party advocates, we need to take full control of Area C [60% of the occupied West Bank] and impose Israeli law there.” - February 2013
“[Palestinians] are beasts, they are not human.” - August 2013.
Minister of Internal Security, Minister of Tourism & Cabinet Liaison to the Knesset Yariv Levin (Likud)
“We will act to strengthen our hold on all parts of Eretz Israel, and will safeguard the settlement enterprise out of faith and the knowledge that exercising our rights to this land is our duty but also the best guarantee for Israel’s security.” - June 2013
“In this way, we will try, slowly but surely, to expand the circle of settlements, and to afterwards extend the roads that lead to them, and so forth. At the end of this process, the facts on the ground will be that whatever remains [of the occupied West Bank] will be merely marginal appendages… We fully agree and are completely united behind the prime minister’s position, which is to strengthen our foothold in the Land of Israel, to build in [occupied East] Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank]." - January 2013
“Even when the prime minister [Netanyahu] spoke about the issue of two states, he didn’t speak about a [Palestinian] state in the full sense. He spoke about a long range of conditions that he himself says there is no chance that they will be fulfilled in the near future due to the actions of the other side." - January 2013
Minister of Immigration and Absorption & Minister for Jerusalem Affairs Zeev Elkin (Likud)
“I certainly think a Palestinian state is no solution. And if I think a Palestinian state is no solution, that means I do want a Jewish presence here. Which raises the question: What do you do with the Palestinian population? And I don’t think the answer to that question can be found right now. But a Palestinian state is no solution, not for us and I don’t think for them either.” - July 2013
“We will try to apply sovereignty over the maximum [of the occupied West Bank] that we can at any given moment… It will take time to change people’s awareness but in the end this will penetrate. And then, what seems today like a fairy tale will eventually become political reality, and the reality on the ground.” - January 2013
Minister of Agriculture and Rural Development Uri Ariel (Jewish Home)
“…not even one settlement in Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] will be uprooted... Israeli citizens [settlers] will only be under full Israeli sovereignty. And west of the Jordan River there will only be one state and that is the state of Israel." - March 2014
“With God’s help we will continue building all the land of Israel and Jerusalem the capital… It must be made clear that this is only the beginning. This melody can’t be stopped… We can and will market thousands of [settlement] apartments in [occupied East] Jerusalem and there are more than 10,000 apartments ready for marketing in Judea and Samaria.” - August 2013
Minister of Transportation and Road Safety & Minister of Intelligence and Atomic Energy Yisrael Katz (Likud)
"I am opposed to a Palestinian state. It is unacceptable, mainly because of our rights to this land." - July 2013
Minister of Science, Technology, and Space Danny Danon (Likud)
“A deal giving up most of Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] – the current Likud leadership will not accept that... We [who oppose such steps] are the majority in the party.” - September 2013
“Look at the government: there was never a government discussion, resolution or vote about the two-state solution... If you will bring it to a vote in the government... you will see the majority of Likud ministers, along with the Jewish Home [party], will be against it… Today we’re not fighting it, but if there will be a move to promote a two-state solution, you will see forces blocking it within the [Likud] party and the government." - June 2013
"The long-term vision is to apply Jewish sovereignty over the Jewish communities [settlements] of Judea and Samaria, and I am proud of it.” - November 2012
http://imeu.org/article/in-their-own-words-senior-israeli-officials-on-the-palestinian-question
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