Meanwhile back in Israel

mickeyrat

https://twitter.com/tmorello/status/1717203825952714773?t=yKQD8mPzuf2myOKk8dfJvA&s=19

tempo_n_groove

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Bentleyspop said:

23scidoo said:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1714984258358391057

Breaking New...Al-Jazeera is heavily biased against Israel.

I actually thought they were more central on reporting?

I wasn't sure, but this is what my Google search first came up with.

Yeah I'm not trusting wikipedia on that one.

F Me In The Brain

https://youtu.be/kFBDn5PiL00?si=j1yQa8cQADluk295

The Juggler

Halifax2TheMax

The Juggler said:

So, how do you like the full on yoga pant uni-suit? Do you find that it rides and pinches?

Wobbie

I’m not going back 310 posts, but….we really need to be giving “military assistance” to a situation where it’s a full, modern army against rocks and bottles?

Lerxst1992

The situation is not dire enough, do we really need misinformation comparing Iran and its proxies to “bottles and rockets?” Cmon.

benjs

Lerxst1992 said:

The situation is not dire enough, do we really need misinformation comparing Iran and its proxies to “bottles and rockets?” Cmon.

Share information, misinformation, information with context, information without it, everyone on here is kidding themselves if they think this, or any discourse, will amount to a damn thing if the leaders don't give a shit about global rhetoric, and if support flows based on existing allies anyways. I don't know why anyone cares to have these talks anymore, it's an exercise in willingly accepting misery and futility into one's life.

gimmesometruth27

its pointless to discuss. israel is gonna flatten gaza, and most of the world will be ok with it, and even enthusiastically support it. sadly.

gimmesometruth27

Lerxst1992 said:

The situation is not dire enough, do we really need misinformation comparing Iran and its proxies to “bottles and rockets?” Cmon.

does hasbara still exist? is it still a thing?

Halifax2TheMax

Israel defending itself.

Israeli airstrikes have caused extensive damage to Gaza hospital, aid organization says

From CNN’s Abeer Salman and Jessie Gretener

Israeli airstrikes have “caused extensive damage to hospital departments and exposed residents and patients to suffocation” at the Al-Quds Hospital, the Palestinian Red Crescent Society said Sunday.

The aid organization accused Israel of “deliberately” launching the airstrikes “directly next to Al-Quds Hospital, with the aim of forcing the medical staff, displaced people, and patients to evacuate the hospital.”

Videos from the Palestinian Red Crescent show dust clouding up hallways in the hospital, with some people trying to put on face masks. Other video obtained by CNN appears to show the aftermath of a strike, with a cloud of dust rising next to the hospital.

The director of Al-Quds Hospital, Dr. Bashar Mourad, told CNN the vicinity of the hospital had been targeted three times by Israeli airstrikes Sunday as of 4:45 p.m. local time (10:45 a.m. ET).

CNN has asked the Israel Defense Forces about the aid organization's reports that the Al-Quds Hospital was specifically targeted by airstrikes.

Some background: Al-Quds Hospital is treating hundreds of patients, including wounded people, patients in intensive care and children in incubators, the Palestinian Red Crescent said. In addition, approximately 12,000 internally displaced civilians are currently sheltering at the hospital.

The hospital is located in the Tal Al Hawa neighborhood in Gaza City, north of Wadi Gaza — the line south of which Israel has urged people in Gaza to flee. 

Earlier Sunday, the Palestinian Red Crescent had said it received a warning to immediately evacuate the hospital. The World Health Organization has said the order is impossible without endangering the lives of patients.

In response to questions about the evacuation warning and medical workers' response, Israel Defense Forces spokesperson Maj. Nir Dinar told CNN, "They received much more than two (warnings) for the last three weeks." 

static111

Halifax2TheMax said:

Israel defending itself.

Israeli airstrikes have caused extensive damage to Gaza hospital, aid organization says

From CNN’s Abeer Salman and Jessie Gretener

Israeli airstrikes have “caused extensive damage to hospital departments and exposed residents and patients to suffocation” at the Al-Quds Hospital, the Palestinian Red Crescent Society said Sunday.

The aid organization accused Israel of “deliberately” launching the airstrikes “directly next to Al-Quds Hospital, with the aim of forcing the medical staff, displaced people, and patients to evacuate the hospital.”

Videos from the Palestinian Red Crescent show dust clouding up hallways in the hospital, with some people trying to put on face masks. Other video obtained by CNN appears to show the aftermath of a strike, with a cloud of dust rising next to the hospital.

The director of Al-Quds Hospital, Dr. Bashar Mourad, told CNN the vicinity of the hospital had been targeted three times by Israeli airstrikes Sunday as of 4:45 p.m. local time (10:45 a.m. ET).

CNN has asked the Israel Defense Forces about the aid organization's reports that the Al-Quds Hospital was specifically targeted by airstrikes.

Some background: Al-Quds Hospital is treating hundreds of patients, including wounded people, patients in intensive care and children in incubators, the Palestinian Red Crescent said. In addition, approximately 12,000 internally displaced civilians are currently sheltering at the hospital.

The hospital is located in the Tal Al Hawa neighborhood in Gaza City, north of Wadi Gaza — the line south of which Israel has urged people in Gaza to flee. 

Earlier Sunday, the Palestinian Red Crescent had said it received a warning to immediately evacuate the hospital. The World Health Organization has said the order is impossible without endangering the lives of patients.

In response to questions about the evacuation warning and medical workers' response, Israel Defense Forces spokesperson Maj. Nir Dinar told CNN, "They received much more than two (warnings) for the last three weeks." 

Justice is destroying critical infrastructure and punishing the entire populace based on the actions of a few.  It's how colonizers do.

Halifax2TheMax

Or killing civilians and declaring them just a tragedy of war. How many is “enough?”

Israel claims responsibility for Jabalya attack, says civilian deaths are ‘tragedy of war’

Israel confirmed it was responsible for an attack on the Jabalya refugee camp in northern Gaza on Tuesday that Palestinian officials said left hundreds dead and injured.

The Israel Defense Forces targeted and killed a senior Hamas commander, Ibrahim Biari, said IDF spokesman Lt. Col. Richard Hecht.

Soldiers on the ground and in an IDF aircraft were used in the offensive, the IDF said, adding that a number of Hamas militants were killed and that tunnel entrances, weapons and military equipment were destroyed.

But the attack also appears to have had a far wider, and fatal, impact on civilians. Exact figures on the number of dead and injured were not immediately clear in the aftermath of the strikes, but footage of the scene streamed by Al Jazeera showed dozens of civilians digging through the rubble to reach trapped people.

Asked on CNN by Wolf Blitzer about why the IDF pressed ahead with the attack even though it was aware of the large civilian population in the area, Hecht said it was a “very complicated battle space” and that Biari, the Hamas commander, “killed many, many Israelis.”

“But you know that there are a lot of refugees, a lot of innocent civilians, men, women and children in that refugee camp as well, right?” Blitzer asked Hecht.

“This is the tragedy of war, Wolf,” Hecht said.

HughFreakingDillon

I dunno, the US government thinks civilians are "tragedies of war" too. since 2002 they've murdered an estimated 1100 civilians with drone strikes in Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen. and Obama was the worst of them. 

Halifax2TheMax

HughFreakingDillon said:

I dunno, the US government thinks civilians are "tragedies of war" too. since 2002 they've murdered an estimated 1100 civilians with drone strikes in Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen. and Obama was the worst of them. 

No argument from me on that one. The violence perpetrated by Israel in Gaza is curtesy of US taxpayers.

static111

HughFreakingDillon said:

I dunno, the US government thinks civilians are "tragedies of war" too. since 2002 they've murdered an estimated 1100 civilians with drone strikes in Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen. and Obama was the worst of them. 

Agreed. Totally wrong when the US does it as well.

static111

Halifax2TheMax said:

Or killing civilians and declaring them just a tragedy of war. How many is “enough?”

Israel claims responsibility for Jabalya attack, says civilian deaths are ‘tragedy of war’

Israel confirmed it was responsible for an attack on the Jabalya refugee camp in northern Gaza on Tuesday that Palestinian officials said left hundreds dead and injured.

The Israel Defense Forces targeted and killed a senior Hamas commander, Ibrahim Biari, said IDF spokesman Lt. Col. Richard Hecht.

Soldiers on the ground and in an IDF aircraft were used in the offensive, the IDF said, adding that a number of Hamas militants were killed and that tunnel entrances, weapons and military equipment were destroyed.

But the attack also appears to have had a far wider, and fatal, impact on civilians. Exact figures on the number of dead and injured were not immediately clear in the aftermath of the strikes, but footage of the scene streamed by Al Jazeera showed dozens of civilians digging through the rubble to reach trapped people.

Asked on CNN by Wolf Blitzer about why the IDF pressed ahead with the attack even though it was aware of the large civilian population in the area, Hecht said it was a “very complicated battle space” and that Biari, the Hamas commander, “killed many, many Israelis.”

“But you know that there are a lot of refugees, a lot of innocent civilians, men, women and children in that refugee camp as well, right?” Blitzer asked Hecht.

“This is the tragedy of war, Wolf,” Hecht said.

Does anyone still think this is justified? And if so did you think all the killing the US did in Iraq and Afghanistan was justified? and why?

Halifax2TheMax

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Or killing civilians and declaring them just a tragedy of war. How many is “enough?”

Israel claims responsibility for Jabalya attack, says civilian deaths are ‘tragedy of war’

Israel confirmed it was responsible for an attack on the Jabalya refugee camp in northern Gaza on Tuesday that Palestinian officials said left hundreds dead and injured.

The Israel Defense Forces targeted and killed a senior Hamas commander, Ibrahim Biari, said IDF spokesman Lt. Col. Richard Hecht.

Soldiers on the ground and in an IDF aircraft were used in the offensive, the IDF said, adding that a number of Hamas militants were killed and that tunnel entrances, weapons and military equipment were destroyed.

But the attack also appears to have had a far wider, and fatal, impact on civilians. Exact figures on the number of dead and injured were not immediately clear in the aftermath of the strikes, but footage of the scene streamed by Al Jazeera showed dozens of civilians digging through the rubble to reach trapped people.

Asked on CNN by Wolf Blitzer about why the IDF pressed ahead with the attack even though it was aware of the large civilian population in the area, Hecht said it was a “very complicated battle space” and that Biari, the Hamas commander, “killed many, many Israelis.”

“But you know that there are a lot of refugees, a lot of innocent civilians, men, women and children in that refugee camp as well, right?” Blitzer asked Hecht.

“This is the tragedy of war, Wolf,” Hecht said.

Does anyone still think this is justified? And if so did you think all the killing the US did in Iraq and Afghanistan was justified? and why?

I was and am totally against the war in Iraq, was critical of Afghanistan and thought we should have pulled out as soon as Obama was killed in Pakistan.

mickeyrat

Halifax2TheMax said:

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Or killing civilians and declaring them just a tragedy of war. How many is “enough?”

Israel claims responsibility for Jabalya attack, says civilian deaths are ‘tragedy of war’

Israel confirmed it was responsible for an attack on the Jabalya refugee camp in northern Gaza on Tuesday that Palestinian officials said left hundreds dead and injured.

The Israel Defense Forces targeted and killed a senior Hamas commander, Ibrahim Biari, said IDF spokesman Lt. Col. Richard Hecht.

Soldiers on the ground and in an IDF aircraft were used in the offensive, the IDF said, adding that a number of Hamas militants were killed and that tunnel entrances, weapons and military equipment were destroyed.

But the attack also appears to have had a far wider, and fatal, impact on civilians. Exact figures on the number of dead and injured were not immediately clear in the aftermath of the strikes, but footage of the scene streamed by Al Jazeera showed dozens of civilians digging through the rubble to reach trapped people.

Asked on CNN by Wolf Blitzer about why the IDF pressed ahead with the attack even though it was aware of the large civilian population in the area, Hecht said it was a “very complicated battle space” and that Biari, the Hamas commander, “killed many, many Israelis.”

“But you know that there are a lot of refugees, a lot of innocent civilians, men, women and children in that refugee camp as well, right?” Blitzer asked Hecht.

“This is the tragedy of war, Wolf,” Hecht said.

Does anyone still think this is justified? And if so did you think all the killing the US did in Iraq and Afghanistan was justified? and why?

I was and am totally against the war in Iraq, was critical of Afghanistan and thought we should have pulled out as soon as Obama was killed in Pakistan.

oSama

JB16057

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Or killing civilians and declaring them just a tragedy of war. How many is “enough?”

Israel claims responsibility for Jabalya attack, says civilian deaths are ‘tragedy of war’

Israel confirmed it was responsible for an attack on the Jabalya refugee camp in northern Gaza on Tuesday that Palestinian officials said left hundreds dead and injured.

The Israel Defense Forces targeted and killed a senior Hamas commander, Ibrahim Biari, said IDF spokesman Lt. Col. Richard Hecht.

Soldiers on the ground and in an IDF aircraft were used in the offensive, the IDF said, adding that a number of Hamas militants were killed and that tunnel entrances, weapons and military equipment were destroyed.

But the attack also appears to have had a far wider, and fatal, impact on civilians. Exact figures on the number of dead and injured were not immediately clear in the aftermath of the strikes, but footage of the scene streamed by Al Jazeera showed dozens of civilians digging through the rubble to reach trapped people.

Asked on CNN by Wolf Blitzer about why the IDF pressed ahead with the attack even though it was aware of the large civilian population in the area, Hecht said it was a “very complicated battle space” and that Biari, the Hamas commander, “killed many, many Israelis.”

“But you know that there are a lot of refugees, a lot of innocent civilians, men, women and children in that refugee camp as well, right?” Blitzer asked Hecht.

“This is the tragedy of war, Wolf,” Hecht said.

Does anyone still think this is justified? And if so did you think all the killing the US did in Iraq and Afghanistan was justified? and why?

Biden does.