Meanwhile back in Israel
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Lerxst1992 said:
If u got a quote where I said those words, please share. Otherwise, watch your mouth.mickeyrat said:Hebrews or israelites WRE NOT THE FIRST AND ONKY PEOPLES ON THE FUCKUNG LAND.A MADE UP NBOOK MAKES WILD CLAIMS AS TO "OWNERSHIP"
What the FUCK is this?Lerxst1992 said:
If u got a quote where I said those words, please share. Otherwise, watch your mouth.mickeyrat said:Hebrews or israelites WRE NOT THE FIRST AND ONKY PEOPLES ON THE FUCKUNG LAND.A MADE UP NBOOK MAKES WILD CLAIMS AS TO "OWNERSHIP"By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
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IDF bombs civilian ambulance convoy.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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Tuesday, Oct. 24
“Is life in Gaza always difficult?” I get asked this question a lot. I struggle to remember a time when it wasn’t. Maybe, for a few scattered moments back in the early ’90s, when the Palestinian Authority established a base in the city, there’d been some calm. Or the promise of calm. For my generation, 20-year-olds at the time, the future seemed open. The peace process signaled a new beginning. Thousands of people took to the streets in support of it. We didn’t know it at the time, but we were clutching at straws. My mother participated in one of the many demonstrations that celebrated the Oslo accords; she believed it might lead to the release of my brother Naeem, who had been sentenced to seven years in jail after a clash with the Israeli army. She died without seeing Naeem free.
Sadly, this atmosphere lasted only a few years, after which everything collapsed. Peace became a burden for Palestinians, the cost of it — the presence of Israeli police everywhere — too much. The future was canceled. The economy stagnated, the airport was bombed, people were hemmed in. Even when Israeli settlers and soldiers moved out in 2005, walls went up and the Gazan people knew, once again, that they were prisoners here, not citizens.
For the whole of last night, the tanks kept up their bombardment. Eisha’s place is on the eastern side of Jabalya, close to the border where the tanks stand in the hundreds. It was a risky decision, coming here, but after 17 days of moving from place to place, with scarce access to water, I’d had enough. I needed a shower and a proper night’s sleep on a real bed.
Eisha woke early because she had bread to prepare. After all the bombs, she’s not going to send her 14-year-old son to queue for hours. The only solution is to make her own bread. I help, kneading the dough and cutting it up. Thousands of Gazan families are no doubt also teaching themselves to make bread again. Eisha is one of the lucky ones: She has gas for frying. Most people improvise with handmade fires, fed with wood from the rubble.
A few years ago, someone daubed a strange slogan on the wall of the U.N. school east of Jabalya: “We progress backwards.” It has a ring to it. Every new war drags us back to basics. It destroys our houses, our institutions, our mosques and our churches. It razes our gardens and parks. Every war takes years to recover from, and before we’ve recovered, a new war arrives. There are no warning sirens, no messages sent to our phones. War just arrives.
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Was Israel a sovereign nation before 1948?Lerxst1992 said:.static111 said:
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Since you have all the real facts I have some questions.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
is the united states stealing land in canada, displacing those that live there, and building american settlements with american only roads?Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:Lerxst1992 said:war is horrible. I wish it were over. As far as the suffering people in Gaza -
Why does the leadership of Gaza bear no responsibility for instigating this war on Oct 7?
Why is no one calling for Hamas to surrender?
Why aren’t the Palestinian people shouting at the cameras “we want peace with our neighbors, and Israel has the right to exist peacefully?
1. this isn't war. it's criminal.
2. of course they do. but this didn't happen in a vacuum.
3. most rational people are calling for that very thing. but israel knows that will never happen. so hey, let's bomb the shit out of civilians that hamas leadership don't give two fucks about, eh?
4. this is absurd on so many levels. if someone is beating the living shit out of me for 75 years, should the onus be on ME to shout "I just want to be your friend" so that person stops beating the living shit out of me? show me where, anywhere, that Israel's government has wanted to "exist peacefully". They have shown that their version of peace is through total domination.I’ve posted endlessly about the Oslo accords in AMT, that addresses 4.Jews were attacked and murdered immediately after the Balfour declaration in 1917. The British controlled the land and made a determination to invite Jews back to their ancestral homeland. So who again started the violence? Maybe the Jews, maybe the Arabs, if we can figure out what happened specifically around 1917, but at some point they must accept each other to reach peace, or the violence will not end, whether or not there is a ceasefire to the current mess. The Israelis don’t scream about not formally recognizing Arab nations, only Palestinians do that.
If Canada kept invading the US and suffered military defeat over and over, would they continue invading or stop? Did Canada keep at it after 1812, or change their strategy?
why did Hamas invade on Oct 7? Principally because of the potential Saudi peace deal (which also disputes your 4), but also because they know there is a unique hatred against Israel where they can keep attacking a much stronger nation, and they will get sympathy from the Arab world and some in the liberal west, despite being the aggressors to this conflict.
poor comparison.You are conflating, yet again, Gaza and West Bank. I was discussing HAMAS INVADING AND COMPARING THAT TO THE WAR OF 1812,
BUT SINCE YOU WISH TO SHARE YOUR KNOWLEDGE ON WEST BANK, PLEASE REBUT THE FOLLOWING FACTS:Israel was illegally attacked in 1967 from the West Bank, took control of the land for security reasons, because that land was used upwards of ten times to illegally invade Israel, which has a historical claim to the land since it was theirs for thousands of years, and they signed multiple peace deals with Palestinian leadership to share this land.
Are you familiar with any of these facts?
Do you understand why the West Bank was used to invade Israel?
Do you understand how the Palestinians historical use of this land in an aggressive manner?
Do you understand Palestine was never a sovereign nation?
somehow you think there is such a thing as international justice that is not biased against certain countries. Using your standards, the entirety of North America should be returned to the First Nations/ Native American population.
just because you believe you have some sort of moral superiority on this issue does not make it fact.
This area of land on a map was labelled and recognized as Palestine before 1948?
The Israelis hadn't been a majority in the region for hundreds if not a thousand years?
At the time of the establishment of the state of Israel, Palestinians were in the majority and had been the majority and living/occupying the land for longer than the US was a country?
When the state of Israel was established by western powers, Palestinians were forced from their lands homes and other habitations, mosques abandoned etc, to make way for Israeli settlers?
When Israel was established no Palestinian state was recognized and funded equally and given the same help as the Israelis received?
In 1917 the British were in control of the Ottoman lands and invited in the Jews, who were almost immediately attacked by the Arabs. But that's besides my point, that Palestine was never a sovereign nation.
As the Ottoman power was waning during the 1800s the Saudis began sending immigrants to these lands in an attempt to further expand Muslim domination of lands in this region, as the Levant was a vastly underpopulated region...
The Occupied Enemy Territory Administration (OETA) was a joint British, French and Arab military administration over Levantine provinces of the former Ottoman Empire between 1917 and 1920, set up on 23 October 1917 following the Sinai and Palestine Campaign and Arab Revolt of World War I.[1] Although it was declared by the British military, who were in control of the region.
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Notice the bomb craters in the agricultural fields in the photo in this article. This is smart thinking on the part of Israel. Hamas are known to hide out in pea patches and such. I hear they are bombing ambulances now as well. Way to win.
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When will all this madness end.
We are all humans. No more war!!!0 -
Not soon enough! All in the name of religion it’s disgusting5 said:When will all this madness end.
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“The worst things in the world are justified by belief”josevolution said:
Not soon enough! All in the name of religion it’s disgusting5 said:When will all this madness end.
We are all humans. No more war!!!
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static111 said:
Was Israel a sovereign nation before 1948?Lerxst1992 said:.static111 said:
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Since you have all the real facts I have some questions.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
is the united states stealing land in canada, displacing those that live there, and building american settlements with american only roads?Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:Lerxst1992 said:war is horrible. I wish it were over. As far as the suffering people in Gaza -
Why does the leadership of Gaza bear no responsibility for instigating this war on Oct 7?
Why is no one calling for Hamas to surrender?
Why aren’t the Palestinian people shouting at the cameras “we want peace with our neighbors, and Israel has the right to exist peacefully?
1. this isn't war. it's criminal.
2. of course they do. but this didn't happen in a vacuum.
3. most rational people are calling for that very thing. but israel knows that will never happen. so hey, let's bomb the shit out of civilians that hamas leadership don't give two fucks about, eh?
4. this is absurd on so many levels. if someone is beating the living shit out of me for 75 years, should the onus be on ME to shout "I just want to be your friend" so that person stops beating the living shit out of me? show me where, anywhere, that Israel's government has wanted to "exist peacefully". They have shown that their version of peace is through total domination.I’ve posted endlessly about the Oslo accords in AMT, that addresses 4.Jews were attacked and murdered immediately after the Balfour declaration in 1917. The British controlled the land and made a determination to invite Jews back to their ancestral homeland. So who again started the violence? Maybe the Jews, maybe the Arabs, if we can figure out what happened specifically around 1917, but at some point they must accept each other to reach peace, or the violence will not end, whether or not there is a ceasefire to the current mess. The Israelis don’t scream about not formally recognizing Arab nations, only Palestinians do that.
If Canada kept invading the US and suffered military defeat over and over, would they continue invading or stop? Did Canada keep at it after 1812, or change their strategy?
why did Hamas invade on Oct 7? Principally because of the potential Saudi peace deal (which also disputes your 4), but also because they know there is a unique hatred against Israel where they can keep attacking a much stronger nation, and they will get sympathy from the Arab world and some in the liberal west, despite being the aggressors to this conflict.
poor comparison.You are conflating, yet again, Gaza and West Bank. I was discussing HAMAS INVADING AND COMPARING THAT TO THE WAR OF 1812,
BUT SINCE YOU WISH TO SHARE YOUR KNOWLEDGE ON WEST BANK, PLEASE REBUT THE FOLLOWING FACTS:Israel was illegally attacked in 1967 from the West Bank, took control of the land for security reasons, because that land was used upwards of ten times to illegally invade Israel, which has a historical claim to the land since it was theirs for thousands of years, and they signed multiple peace deals with Palestinian leadership to share this land.
Are you familiar with any of these facts?
Do you understand why the West Bank was used to invade Israel?
Do you understand how the Palestinians historical use of this land in an aggressive manner?
Do you understand Palestine was never a sovereign nation?
somehow you think there is such a thing as international justice that is not biased against certain countries. Using your standards, the entirety of North America should be returned to the First Nations/ Native American population.
just because you believe you have some sort of moral superiority on this issue does not make it fact.
This area of land on a map was labelled and recognized as Palestine before 1948?
The Israelis hadn't been a majority in the region for hundreds if not a thousand years?
At the time of the establishment of the state of Israel, Palestinians were in the majority and had been the majority and living/occupying the land for longer than the US was a country?
When the state of Israel was established by western powers, Palestinians were forced from their lands homes and other habitations, mosques abandoned etc, to make way for Israeli settlers?
When Israel was established no Palestinian state was recognized and funded equally and given the same help as the Israelis received?
In 1917 the British were in control of the Ottoman lands and invited in the Jews, who were almost immediately attacked by the Arabs. But that's besides my point, that Palestine was never a sovereign nation.
As the Ottoman power was waning during the 1800s the Saudis began sending immigrants to these lands in an attempt to further expand Muslim domination of lands in this region, as the Levant was a vastly underpopulated region...
The Occupied Enemy Territory Administration (OETA) was a joint British, French and Arab military administration over Levantine provinces of the former Ottoman Empire between 1917 and 1920, set up on 23 October 1917 following the Sinai and Palestine Campaign and Arab Revolt of World War I.[1] Although it was declared by the British military, who were in control of the region.
Many think so. Years ago it was supported only by the OT, but recently archeological evidence supports its existence for an extensive period of time. I guess many think the origins of Christianity and Judaism are total BS. Or there is something else here at play regarding anti Israel sentiments by some,
The first step is that all parties in the region need to acknowledge Israel’s right to exist peacefully, then they can negotiate how the lands can be governed and shared. Israel has tried this many times. During the peace negotiation years of the 90s, to answer one of your earlier questions, the US and Israel actually contributed billions to the Palestinian people, which ended during the Second Intifada, which also correlates to the significant decline in Palestinian economy of recent years.0 -
Israel-Hamas war live: Another Gaza school hit amid heavy Israeli bombing https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/11/4/israel-hamas-war-live-20-dead-in-israeli-attack-on-school-ministry
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whats bullshit is claiming sovereignty over a land a specific group wasn't the first or the last in.whats bullshit is demanding help from the global community the saying fuck you to that same community when demands are made of you._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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HughFreakingDillon said:Lerxst1992 said:
If u got a quote where I said those words, please share. Otherwise, watch your mouth.mickeyrat said:Hebrews or israelites WRE NOT THE FIRST AND ONKY PEOPLES ON THE FUCKUNG LAND.A MADE UP NBOOK MAKES WILD CLAIMS AS TO "OWNERSHIP"
What the FUCK is this?Lerxst1992 said:
If u got a quote where I said those words, please share. Otherwise, watch your mouth.mickeyrat said:Hebrews or israelites WRE NOT THE FIRST AND ONKY PEOPLES ON THE FUCKUNG LAND.A MADE UP NBOOK MAKES WILD CLAIMS AS TO "OWNERSHIP"If you review the comments immediately preceding that curse, it appears the commenter was responding to a comment of mine with obscenity , without the courage of a direct quote. The reply was inaccurate as I did not state “only people” nor “first.” But accuracy is not key here.I did cite First Nations and indigenous as a comparison to North America, as the three major countries there also exist entirely as the result of abusing the existing populations there, but yet these three countries get a free pass as to their aggressions, while Israel does not. I am comparing, not judging. I was not calling the Jews indigenous despite their thousands of years living on these lands before they were ethnically cleansed.Also the commenter apparently felt the need to offend all who believe in the Old Testament, as well as apparently ignoring the extensive archeological evidence regarding the West Bank. If I am wrong, please correct.0 -
I am not talking about a thousand years ago , and the Old Testament is about as much of a historical record to me as Ovid's Metamorphosis.. If we go back a thousand years or more a lot of the world looks different. In my opinion, maybe having an Israeli state 1000 or more years ago does not justify forcing the people who had lived there hundreds of years out of homes and off their lands. Of course that doesn't matter because here we are today. Sure everyone in the region needs to recognize Israels right to exist, but maybe Israel and the west need to recognize all of the missteps that they took to get where we are today as well.Lerxst1992 said:static111 said:
Was Israel a sovereign nation before 1948?Lerxst1992 said:.static111 said:
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Since you have all the real facts I have some questions.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
is the united states stealing land in canada, displacing those that live there, and building american settlements with american only roads?Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:Lerxst1992 said:war is horrible. I wish it were over. As far as the suffering people in Gaza -
Why does the leadership of Gaza bear no responsibility for instigating this war on Oct 7?
Why is no one calling for Hamas to surrender?
Why aren’t the Palestinian people shouting at the cameras “we want peace with our neighbors, and Israel has the right to exist peacefully?
1. this isn't war. it's criminal.
2. of course they do. but this didn't happen in a vacuum.
3. most rational people are calling for that very thing. but israel knows that will never happen. so hey, let's bomb the shit out of civilians that hamas leadership don't give two fucks about, eh?
4. this is absurd on so many levels. if someone is beating the living shit out of me for 75 years, should the onus be on ME to shout "I just want to be your friend" so that person stops beating the living shit out of me? show me where, anywhere, that Israel's government has wanted to "exist peacefully". They have shown that their version of peace is through total domination.I’ve posted endlessly about the Oslo accords in AMT, that addresses 4.Jews were attacked and murdered immediately after the Balfour declaration in 1917. The British controlled the land and made a determination to invite Jews back to their ancestral homeland. So who again started the violence? Maybe the Jews, maybe the Arabs, if we can figure out what happened specifically around 1917, but at some point they must accept each other to reach peace, or the violence will not end, whether or not there is a ceasefire to the current mess. The Israelis don’t scream about not formally recognizing Arab nations, only Palestinians do that.
If Canada kept invading the US and suffered military defeat over and over, would they continue invading or stop? Did Canada keep at it after 1812, or change their strategy?
why did Hamas invade on Oct 7? Principally because of the potential Saudi peace deal (which also disputes your 4), but also because they know there is a unique hatred against Israel where they can keep attacking a much stronger nation, and they will get sympathy from the Arab world and some in the liberal west, despite being the aggressors to this conflict.
poor comparison.You are conflating, yet again, Gaza and West Bank. I was discussing HAMAS INVADING AND COMPARING THAT TO THE WAR OF 1812,
BUT SINCE YOU WISH TO SHARE YOUR KNOWLEDGE ON WEST BANK, PLEASE REBUT THE FOLLOWING FACTS:Israel was illegally attacked in 1967 from the West Bank, took control of the land for security reasons, because that land was used upwards of ten times to illegally invade Israel, which has a historical claim to the land since it was theirs for thousands of years, and they signed multiple peace deals with Palestinian leadership to share this land.
Are you familiar with any of these facts?
Do you understand why the West Bank was used to invade Israel?
Do you understand how the Palestinians historical use of this land in an aggressive manner?
Do you understand Palestine was never a sovereign nation?
somehow you think there is such a thing as international justice that is not biased against certain countries. Using your standards, the entirety of North America should be returned to the First Nations/ Native American population.
just because you believe you have some sort of moral superiority on this issue does not make it fact.
This area of land on a map was labelled and recognized as Palestine before 1948?
The Israelis hadn't been a majority in the region for hundreds if not a thousand years?
At the time of the establishment of the state of Israel, Palestinians were in the majority and had been the majority and living/occupying the land for longer than the US was a country?
When the state of Israel was established by western powers, Palestinians were forced from their lands homes and other habitations, mosques abandoned etc, to make way for Israeli settlers?
When Israel was established no Palestinian state was recognized and funded equally and given the same help as the Israelis received?
In 1917 the British were in control of the Ottoman lands and invited in the Jews, who were almost immediately attacked by the Arabs. But that's besides my point, that Palestine was never a sovereign nation.
As the Ottoman power was waning during the 1800s the Saudis began sending immigrants to these lands in an attempt to further expand Muslim domination of lands in this region, as the Levant was a vastly underpopulated region...
The Occupied Enemy Territory Administration (OETA) was a joint British, French and Arab military administration over Levantine provinces of the former Ottoman Empire between 1917 and 1920, set up on 23 October 1917 following the Sinai and Palestine Campaign and Arab Revolt of World War I.[1] Although it was declared by the British military, who were in control of the region.
Many think so. Years ago it was supported only by the OT, but recently archeological evidence supports its existence for an extensive period of time. I guess many think the origins of Christianity and Judaism are total BS. Or there is something else here at play regarding anti Israel sentiments by some,
The first step is that all parties in the region need to acknowledge Israel’s right to exist peacefully, then they can negotiate how the lands can be governed and shared. Israel has tried this many times. During the peace negotiation years of the 90s, to answer one of your earlier questions, the US and Israel actually contributed billions to the Palestinian people, which ended during the Second Intifada, which also correlates to the significant decline in Palestinian economy of recent years.
I still don't understand why the Allies didn't just give Germany to the Israelis to create their state. In my pea brain that would have made more sense than destabilizing the entire Middle East.Scio me nihil scire
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Tell us about Hillel on college campuses, who they are, what they do, who funds them and why.Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:Lerxst1992 said:
If u got a quote where I said those words, please share. Otherwise, watch your mouth.mickeyrat said:Hebrews or israelites WRE NOT THE FIRST AND ONKY PEOPLES ON THE FUCKUNG LAND.A MADE UP NBOOK MAKES WILD CLAIMS AS TO "OWNERSHIP"
What the FUCK is this?Lerxst1992 said:
If u got a quote where I said those words, please share. Otherwise, watch your mouth.mickeyrat said:Hebrews or israelites WRE NOT THE FIRST AND ONKY PEOPLES ON THE FUCKUNG LAND.A MADE UP NBOOK MAKES WILD CLAIMS AS TO "OWNERSHIP"If you review the comments immediately preceding that curse, it appears the commenter was responding to a comment of mine with obscenity , without the courage of a direct quote. The reply was inaccurate as I did not state “only people” nor “first.” But accuracy is not key here.I did cite First Nations and indigenous as a comparison to North America, as the three major countries there also exist entirely as the result of abusing the existing populations there, but yet these three countries get a free pass as to their aggressions, while Israel does not. I am comparing, not judging. I was not calling the Jews indigenous despite their thousands of years living on these lands before they were ethnically cleansed.Also the commenter apparently felt the need to offend all who believe in the Old Testament, as well as apparently ignoring the extensive archeological evidence regarding the West Bank. If I am wrong, please correct.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Day 19. The hospitals’ lack of medicine and equipment is shocking. Patients are operated on without anesthesia, and it has become normal to hear screaming in the wards. There are no painkillers, no sedatives. A ward designed for three beds now has seven. Beds are crammed into corridors, waiting rooms, operating theaters, even around the entrances of bathrooms and in stairwells.
This morning, al-Shifa Hospital was overflowing with people. No doctor was there, only one young nurse trying to manage everyone’s needs.
When I arrived at her bedside, Wissam made a request that broke my heart. She wanted to know: Could I give her a lethal injection? She was confident that Allah would forgive her. I smiled and said, “But he will not forgive me, Wissam.”
“I am going to ask him to, on your behalf,” she said.
I cited a verse on the wisdom of the Almighty. I told her he preferred that she be alive amid all this death. She insisted that she could no longer stand the pain. She had been given no drugs. Her face was pale, and she seemed ready to give up.
There is no sign of this war ending. No one in power speaks of a cease-fire. On the news, there’s discussion of a few hours’ truce for humanitarian purposes, to let in a little food and medicine. I find it unbearable to listen to the way they talk about us, decide things for us, without ever asking any of us.
At 3:15 this morning, I woke to an airstrike. I jumped up from my mattress, thinking it had hit Faraj’s house, where I’d been sleeping — forgetting the rule about hearing the strike. We ran to the window and looked at the street below. We heard the sound of walls collapsing and saw glass everywhere. Our noses were filled with the heavy smell of burned metal and wood. We counted three strikes and started our usual guessing game. Where was the hit this time?
In the morning, Mohammed told me it had been the Al Halabi family house. Initially, six bodies were found and 15 people were rescued, with others still missing in the rubble. I went down to support the rescue efforts. We picked up pieces of mutilated bodies and gathered them on a blanket; you find a leg here, a hand there, while the rest looks like minced meat.
In the past week, many Gazans have started writing their names on their hands and legs, in pen or permanent marker, so they can be identified when death comes. This might seem macabre, but it makes perfect sense: We want to be remembered; we want our stories to be told; we seek dignity. At the very least, our names will be on our graves.
The smell of unretrieved bodies under the ruins of a house hit last week remains in the air. The more time passes, the stronger the smell.
Jabalya is famous for its narrow alleys, but now they’re all blocked with fallen masonry, chunks of concrete, tangled metal. Standing on a pile of chaos that a few hours ago was someone’s home, I think about the neighborhood where I was born and raised. I know its maze of narrow streets by heart; I can navigate them with my eyes closed. Soon all that will be left will be a memory.
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On a panoramic ridge facing west on the edge of town, home to a nursery school, Sderot’s residents used to gather during the four previous wars between Israel and Hamas since the group seized control of the strip in 2007. They had cheered and whistled as the bombs rained down on Gaza’s trapped civilians, sipping beers and settling in as though watching a fireworks display as the conflicts unfolded less than a mile away in Beit Hanoun, a town in the strip’s north-east corner.
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