High N Dry in California

rgambs

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Godfather. said:

rgambs said:

Godfather. said:

no they will never let the crops just die but they have cut back on water usage in the past on farms in El Centro Ca. all this is a attack on the the people that live and work in Ca. the govener wants your hard earned dollars...we just can't be given an opertunity to live comfortabley without the state and feds taking 35% to 48% of the money we work for ....what would those usless fucks do if we only gave 25%, less vacations,smaller houses or Heaven forbid they would have to budget they're money in a responsable way.
I love this country but it needs a government duoch.

Godfather.

You realize that it ia capitalist influence on the government that is causing this don't you? It's largely the work of the Right, not the Left. Citizens wouldn't have to conserve water or pay high taxes if the wealthiest had proper restrictions and paid their fair share.

yep they all suck ass...right ,left and inbetween...it's time for a revolution !!! well not really but something needs to be done.

Godfather.

They do all suck!

Godfather.

http://on.nbc7.com/KQviJH7

Cpt. Kirk to the rescue !....quick Scotty beam up some rain.

Godfather.

Godfather.

.........or just pipe it in !

Godfather.

hedonist

Haha - I love him! Can you believe he's 84?!

And fitting you bumped this "high" thread today of all days

Havin' a toke in yer honor, GF!

Godfather.

hedonist said:

Haha - I love him! Can you believe he's 84?!

And fitting you bumped this "high" thread today of all days

Havin' a toke in yer honor, GF!

sittin down town in a railway station one toke over the line..
in ten years I'll join you, I have to wait until I retire (aerospace,government etc) they always have that piss test hanging over us and it's been 20 years anyway,I can wait another 10 hahhahha.

Godfather.

jeffbr

Godfather. said:

http://on.nbc7.com/KQviJH7

Cpt. Kirk to the rescue !....quick Scotty beam up some rain.

Godfather.

Haha, Capt. Kirk is going to have to beam water from somewhere else. We're not high and dry like CA, but I don't know that we have any extra. Our governor declared a drought for the first time in a decade.

http://www.king5.com/story/tech/science/environment/2015/04/17/gov-jay-inslee-expands-washington-drought-declaration/25935965/

Godfather.

jeffbr said:

Godfather. said:

http://on.nbc7.com/KQviJH7

Cpt. Kirk to the rescue !....quick Scotty beam up some rain.

Godfather.

Haha, Capt. Kirk is going to have to beam water from somewhere else. We're not high and dry like CA, but I don't know that we have any extra. Our governor declared a drought for the first time in a decade.

http://www.king5.com/story/tech/science/environment/2015/04/17/gov-jay-inslee-expands-washington-drought-declaration/25935965/

in 9 to 12 months it wont matter to me anyway.

Godfather.

Last-12-Exit

Are you getting any of that flooding that LA is getting Brian?

Godfather.

last night at 8:27 I received an "imminent severe alert" for flash flood warning in San Diego and to watch my local news........I fell right back to sleep, I live 5mi. from the beach we dont flood ! .....yet.


Godfather.

Godfather.

and by the way, on my way home yesterday after work it was raining like mad and it was one of those all the sudden things but the amount water that I alone saw was crazy and it all runs right to the ocean, ya know for a state that has to buy water from Nv.or who ever and depend on snow and rain fall for water in an area that is famous for "it never rains in California" sure has a cheeeezy and half assed system for water collection...millions of gallons of water run into the ocean every year and we have only a few resovrors to collect it . local government is full of reactive rather than proactive leaders.....dumb asses.

Godfather.

callen

Godfather. said:

last night at 8:27 I received an "imminent severe alert" for flash flood warning in San Diego and to watch my local news........I fell right back to sleep, I live 5mi. from the beach we dont flood ! .....yet.


Godfather.

Saw original Star Wars in theater and in bed asleep at 8:27pm.

HA so don t feel so old anymore.

Oh last Star Wars I watched in entirety was also first episode in theater as well. Have been presented later versions but after rooting for Kirk to die was kicked out of room.

Back to subject matter, saw rain in CA and hoped y'all got a good amount.

brianlux

No flooding up this way. You guys down south must have gotten pounded!

We received good, steady showers off and on all afternoon- much needed rain. Definitely not enough to end the drought (snow packs and rain totals for the years are very low) but thankful for what we got yesterday.

Some good illustrations here showing how this cold storm swooped way down to the south- unusual for this time of year:

http://www.weather.com/forecast/regional/news/california-rare-may-rain-sierra-snow-2015

Godfather.

callen said:

Godfather. said:

last night at 8:27 I received an "imminent severe alert" for flash flood warning in San Diego and to watch my local news........I fell right back to sleep, I live 5mi. from the beach we dont flood ! .....yet.


Godfather.

Saw original Star Wars in theater and in bed asleep at 8:27pm.

HA so don t feel so old anymore.

Oh last Star Wars I watched in entirety was also first episode in theater as well. Have been presented later versions but after rooting for Kirk to die was kicked out of room.

Back to subject matter, saw rain in CA and hoped y'all got a good amount.

thanks !, it hasen't been quite what the weather report said it would be but it aint over yet, I like to see the storm thedy reported would hit.

Godfather.

Godfather.

The Obama administration issued controversial new rules Wednesday aimed at protecting the nation's drinking water but decried by congressional critics as a regulatory "power grab."

The Environmental Protection Agency, in announcing the finalized Clean Water Rule along with the Army Corps of Engineers, said the changes mark a "historic step for the protection of clean water" and would help roughly 117 million Americans who get drinking water from streams not clearly protected before these regulations. The rule would clarify which smaller streams, tributaries and wetlands are covered by anti-pollution and development provisions of the Clean Water Act.

But the rules have run into deep opposition from farm groups and the Republican-led Congress. The House voted to block the regulations earlier this month, and a similar effort is underway in the Senate. Critics argue the rules could greatly expand the reach of federal regulators, making every stream, ditch and puddle on farmers' and others' private land subject to federal oversight.

“The administration’s decree to unilaterally expand federal authority is a raw and tyrannical power grab that will crush jobs,” House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, said in a written statement following the rules release.

Boehner said more than 30 governors and government leaders rejected the EPA’s water rule. “These leaders know firsthand that the rule is being shoved down the throats of hardworking people with no input, and places landowners, small businesses, farmers and manufacturers on the road to a regulatory and economic hell.”

North Dakota Republican Rep. Kevin Cramer said in a statement the rules "trample on the rights of private property owners as well as local and state governments" and vowed to work with colleagues to overturn it.

EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy, however, said the rule will only affect waters that have a "direct and significant" connection to larger bodies of water downstream that are already protected. The EPA said the rule focuses on streams, not ditches -- limiting protection to ditches constructed out of streams or those that "function like streams and can carry pollution downstream."

Two Supreme Court rulings had left the reach of the Clean Water Act uncertain. The EPA has said 60 percent of the nation's streams and waterways are vulnerable, and these rules clarify which of those waters are protected. The regulations would only kick in if a business or landowner takes steps to pollute or destroy those waters.

McCarthy has acknowledged the proposed rules issued last year were confusing and said the final rules were written to be more clear. She said the regulations don't create any new permitting requirements for agriculture and even adds some new exemptions for artificial lakes and ponds and water-filled depressions, among other features.

These efforts were "to make clear our goal is to stay out of agriculture's way," McCarthy said in a blog posted on the EPA website.

But after the rules were released, Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla., chairman of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, said his panel will consider the Senate bill to force the EPA to withdraw and rewrite the rules this summer and “continue our work to halt EPA’s unprecedented land grab."

Inhofe said the rule makes it "more important than ever for Congress to act." Among other concerns, he said the final rule allows the EPA to regulate isolated waters -- even ponds in farmers' fields -- by declaring them a "regional water treasure."

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Halifax2TheMax

Do you like beer, godfather? You know, you can live longer without food than water. Love how the first response is, "job killer." I wish you luck, and I hate to say it, but you might be fucked. As may be the whole southwest.

Godfather.

Halifax2TheMax said:

Do you like beer, godfather? You know, you can live longer without food than water. Love how the first response is, "job killer." I wish you luck, and I hate to say it, but you might be fucked. As may be the whole southwest.

not if I leave...HAHHAHHAHHA

Godfather.

brianlux

Legislation and regulation would not be necessary if individuals conserved on their own and corporate ag wasn't hugely wasteful. The former is not the case and the latter is. That's exactly how it is.

hedonist

People can conserve on their own till the cows come home - but when funds set aside (paid by US) to replace many of the old (like from the '30s) water mains here have been mis-used and mis-spent by the almighty fucking DWP - now there are main breaks pretty much every week, causing property damage, and wasting water, time, and precious resources.

brianlux

hedonist said:

People can conserve on their own till the cows come home - but when funds set aside (paid by US) to replace many of the old (like from the '30s) water mains here have been mis-used and mis-spent by the almighty fucking DWP - now there are main breaks pretty much every week, causing property damage, and wasting water, time, and precious resources.

I remember you mentioning that water main break in the LA area that cause a huge loss of water. We had a smaller situation in downtown Placerville where a main broke and shot water two stories high. Yet despite that, our county argues about putting in a roundabout on a corner where traffic flow is just fine as it it. Craziness!

Jason P

The Midwest has gotten a fuckton of rain this year. Too bad we can't share.

I was planning a backcountry trip in the Sierra Nevada mountains this fall, but I'm concerned about finding sources to filter water from. I've hiked there many of times in the fall and i know it's sparse, but I have no idea what to expect based on this years drought.