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  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Jason P said:

    rgambs said:

    Jason P said:

    callen said:

    rgambs said:

    I believe in empathy (not sympathy) for everyone, empathy is one of the truly distinctive things about humans.

    Empathy

    Believe empathy is key to human harmony. World harmony. Plant and animal harmony.

    Empathy is the enemy of the machine. Hard to motivate the masses……… if they have empathy. Hard to have workers increasing efficiency 150% and laying off your coworkers when you have Empathy.

    Empathy is the enemy of wars, how can one justify the killing of women and children…..for economic security, FOR money if one has empathy.

    Empathy takes away human validation Rather than understanding the plight of your fellow man…one without empathy takes comfort if feeling special, smarter, better equipped. My favorite on this board……. “Being a white male gives me no advantages, I worked hard. I had good morals. Those crack babies have same opportunity as I, they are just ……………………..lazy. NOT like I.”

    then this came to mind….

    “ I know now to eat….I chose the salmon filet special at lunch with the boys today during our monthly team meeting….…I didn’t get the cheeseburger…like those dumb poor people that went to McDonalds and are now fat”. Empathy “Head of lettuce is 99 Cents why don’t they eat that…its cheap vegetable” Empathy.

    Empathy, putting yourself in the shoes of another…..of a teenage suicide bomber…who’s life sucks so bad…that has had idiotic beliefs drilled in their heads, they feel so desperate that they strap bombs to their bodies and are willing to exterminate themselves, obliterate themselves….not knowing how much it will indeed hurt….no future of family, kids, grandkids…all that never a thought….…………..and we call them cowards!! HOW??? If you have a smallest sliver of empathy you would realize this is the farthest thing from being a coward. Diving a plane into a mountain being a coward?!?!?! Really? This dude was sick….he flew headfirst into a mountain…..I don’t have the balls to do this….I could never commit suicide……I am a coward, but I have empathy.

    Empathy understanding depression, understanding sexual drive, understanding other’s needs, wants, insecurities…….empathy. You against gays? Rub you the wrong way?. You ever think how it must suck to not be attracted to opposite sex, going against family, society..and GOD!!!!!! Fuck that must suck big time…….I can barely just imagine…just barely or maybe not at all….. Empathy

    Empathy, “those damn wetbacks coming over here taking our jobs”. They risk all they have, culture, family, security, risk of life and limb, risk of imprisonment…for $5.00 an hour….empathy…..yet skip the fact that Americans hire them….they are but poor pawns…in the game of hate and votes. Empathy.

    Challenge yourselves….it’s not the evil doers, its humans just like you, that have the same wants and wishes for themselves and families as you….they ARE you.

    Peace.
    Do you have empathy for white privileged males? I apologize because that was an unfair generalization.

    If depression was the reason behind this murderous act, I wouldn't leave my house every day because a good percentage of the nation is on meds for depression and another good percentage are left un-diagnosed .

    This guy epitomizes pure evil. He had a lot of time to comprehend what he was doing, in pre-planning and execution, yet he continued to murder a 150 people and destroy 150 families under a calm demeanor while under pressure by those aboard to plea for mercy.

    If he was standing on the ledge of a building while threatening to jump while people pleaded for him to reconsider, then empathy is warranted. This guy has no reason to give pity.
    You are confusing empathy with sympathy I think.
    Possibly, although I consider myself to be pragmatic.

    I see this guy as being an defective human being that the system allowed to fly commercial airplanes by mistake.

    I still feel really sad for the victims that were happy about scoring a cheap flight only to have this asshole murder them.

    For this guy, No empathy. No sympathy. He should be judged in history as the lowest of the low.

    Your right on J
  • depression is not what led to this.

    i had a several month episode of severe depression a few years ago.

    the only life i thought about taking was my own.

    do not let the media smear this man because of his mental illness. smear him for his sober, deliberate, and calculated plotting of and carrying out a mass murder.

    Don't let my praise of this post make you question what you wrote, Gimmie (like Hedo expressed as well... we've disagreed a lot lately).

    This post concisely sums up what I've been thinking, but have been unable to express.

    * Welcome to the dark side. LOL!!!
    i knew you weren't questioning what i wrote. i think that someone like me, having been through depression, might have a little better way of putting it into words. i lived it for a year or so. so i had a lot of time to think about how i would explain it to someone else.

    the dark side doesn't seem so bad, haha....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • depression is not what led to this.

    i had a several month episode of severe depression a few years ago.

    the only life i thought about taking was my own.

    do not let the media smear this man because of his mental illness. smear him for his sober, deliberate, and calculated plotting of and carrying out a mass murder.

    So please give us all some truth.
    How did you get through your severe bout of depression a few years ago?
    You wanted to take your life and you didn't.........
    What was your cure

    it sounds stupid. i saw a counselor, took an antidepressant, talked to some close friends and family. i buried myself in writing. just wrote a ton and got it all out. played a lot of music. listened to a lot of music. tried to stay busy.

    ultimately what saved me was my dog. his prior owner had died in a car wreck. i could not bear the thought of leaving him alone again. to me, it was just that simple.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • callen said:

    depression is not what led to this.

    i had a several month episode of severe depression a few years ago.

    the only life i thought about taking was my own.

    do not let the media smear this man because of his mental illness. smear him for his sober, deliberate, and calculated plotting of and carrying out a mass murder.

    Come on Gimmie not at all what I wrote. The guy was a psychopath but rather than shout obscenities why not understand and find out why and learn from it. My post really had nothing to do with thread topic other than he wasn't a coward.
    that was not a dig at you. i had been reading the news and the consensus was people were blaming this tragedy on his prior history of depression. having been through it, i just wanted to make it known that people who want to get help get help.

    people who are truly depressed just want out. most don't think about taking out innocent people. just themselves. they believe the people in their life would be better off without them.

    crazy people kill others. like suicide bombers who die for a cause and take people with them.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,040

    callen said:

    depression is not what led to this.

    i had a several month episode of severe depression a few years ago.

    the only life i thought about taking was my own.

    do not let the media smear this man because of his mental illness. smear him for his sober, deliberate, and calculated plotting of and carrying out a mass murder.

    Come on Gimmie not at all what I wrote. The guy was a psychopath but rather than shout obscenities why not understand and find out why and learn from it. My post really had nothing to do with thread topic other than he wasn't a coward.
    that was not a dig at you. i had been reading the news and the consensus was people were blaming this tragedy on his prior history of depression. having been through it, i just wanted to make it known that people who want to get help get help.

    people who are truly depressed just want out. most don't think about taking out innocent people. just themselves. they believe the people in their life would be better off without them.

    crazy people kill others. like suicide bombers who die for a cause and take people with them.
    I totally agree, gimme. I've been dealing with depression off an on for almost 22 years. At my worst I nearly died (a couple of times really), but I never EVER considered taking someone else down with me, let alone so many. To blame this tragedy on depression is insulting both to those of us who have learned to tough it out as well as to those unfortunate souls who couldn't find their way out of the black hole and were lost, alone, to it.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    Gimmie and brian, thanks for opening up and sharing some real personal info. Takes balls to admit what you guys are admiting. I applaud your openess
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    badbrains said:

    Gimmie and brian, thanks for opening up and sharing some real personal info. Takes balls to admit what you guys are admiting. I applaud your openess

    And you know empathy BB

    Gimmie now understand your posts. Thanks.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Cheers Gimme and Bri.Thx for sharing.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,040
    Kudos gimme and thanks for kind words, bb, callen, rr. You guys keep me comin' back here!
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • thanks everyone. i got through it. i don't mind telling a public forum about it. i don't know most of you from adam, so i am ok with sharing.

    i mean, it is a part of who i am and a part of my story. if just one anonymous poster years from now stumbles upon my depression posts one day and gets help for themselves, it is worth my sharing of private info.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697

    thanks everyone. i got through it. i don't mind telling a public forum about it. i don't know most of you from adam, so i am ok with sharing.

    i mean, it is a part of who i am and a part of my story. if just one anonymous poster years from now stumbles upon my depression posts one day and gets help for themselves, it is worth my sharing of private info.

    Here,here!
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    Sooooo, any new news on the co-pilot?
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    Think he's dead with the rest of them. HA
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    I heard some interesting news about him and yet the media seems to keep it out of the public eye. Wonder why
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    badbrains said:

    I heard some interesting news about him and yet the media seems to keep it out of the public eye. Wonder why

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