Just finished watching American History X and the last few lines really resonated with this argument. "So I guess this is where I tell you what I learned - my conclusion, right? Well, my conclusion is: Hate is baggage. Life's too short to be pissed off all the time. It's just not worth it."
I know what it is like to be a victim, to be the family of a victim... Hate, anger, the desire for revenge under the guise of "justice"... Those feelings are the easy way out. Moving on is hard, but it's the only path to happiness.
gambs, I'm sorry for what you and yours have been through, but aren't those hotter emotions you mentioned also part of the path?
They were for me - not necessarily acting on them, but to experience and then release them, in so many means available? They're footsteps to feeling...clean. Like medicine, almost.
Just finished watching American History X and the last few lines really resonated with this argument. "So I guess this is where I tell you what I learned - my conclusion, right? Well, my conclusion is: Hate is baggage. Life's too short to be pissed off all the time. It's just not worth it."
There's definitely something to be said for this.
But I think there is a fine line between passion and hate. I think it's too easy to dismiss someone as having hatred within them when they speak passionately about subjects. Everything can't be vanilla.
By the way, I remember your past you shared with us now that you've reminded us. Good for you for holding the mindset you do.
gambs, I'm sorry for what you and yours have been through, but aren't those hotter emotions you mentioned also part of the path?
They were for me - not necessarily acting on them, but to experience and then release them, in so many means available? They're footsteps to feeling...clean. Like medicine, almost.
They are certainly a part of the path, but the sooner put away, the better. I don't have anything to say about the families and those touched by this heinous tragedy, except that I hope they find peace in whatever way they can. Where I open my mouth is here, half a world away, where the anger and hatred serve no purpose, and give no advancement down that path to peace. It reminds me of the zealots who are ridiculously passionate about abortion... I see them literally foaming at the mouth and I wonder how they can care so much about something which has ZERO effect on their own life. I am left with the conclusion that they are projecting rage from some other problem they have into an external issue, for whatever reason. I see some resemblance between that and issues of "justice".
Just finished watching American History X and the last few lines really resonated with this argument. "So I guess this is where I tell you what I learned - my conclusion, right? Well, my conclusion is: Hate is baggage. Life's too short to be pissed off all the time. It's just not worth it."
There's definitely something to be said for this.
But I think there is a fine line between passion and hate. I think it's too easy to dismiss someone as having hatred within them when they speak passionately about subjects. Everything can't be vanilla.
By the way, I remember your past you shared with us now that you've reminded us. Good for you for holding the mindset you do.
As well... great movie.
You have a point here. I definitely agree that passion is important, a fire in the belly is beyond value.
I think it´s like a psychologist says the other day: `Anger might be the only and best way for most of the victim families to get through this tragedy because there is no natural way to handle the mourning/grieving.´
Some will not find ease of mind because there is no sense in the death of the victims and maybe there will be no mortal remains for all of them to take home to bury. That´s the worst case for loving families. So if you can´t find sense in what happened and you can´t find something to forgive it´s better to handle it with anger as to fall in a hole. Then you will not getting through it, never. You might think you did got through it till you find out (maybe many years later) that you did not! Believe me...you need a reason like human or technical error or anger/passion to overcome this drama and find peace. But how can you forgive someone who (might) did murder your loved ones on purpose with criminal intent ? I just can hope all who are involved can find their own way soon. But it´s sad... I disbelieve that. Anger usually isn´t a very good companion...this is an exemption. Then there are the parents of the pilot...don´t like to imagine how they will get through this...
Just finished watching American History X and the last few lines really resonated with this argument. "So I guess this is where I tell you what I learned - my conclusion, right? Well, my conclusion is: Hate is baggage. Life's too short to be pissed off all the time. It's just not worth it."
I believe in empathy (not sympathy) for everyone, empathy is one of the truly distinctive things about humans.
Empathy
Believe empathy is key to human harmony. World harmony. Plant and animal harmony.
Empathy is the enemy of the machine. Hard to motivate the masses……… if they have empathy. Hard to have workers increasing efficiency 150% and laying off your coworkers when you have Empathy.
Empathy is the enemy of wars, how can one justify the killing of women and children…..for economic security, FOR money if one has empathy.
Empathy takes away human validation Rather than understanding the plight of your fellow man…one without empathy takes comfort if feeling special, smarter, better equipped. My favorite on this board……. “Being a white male gives me no advantages, I worked hard. I had good morals. Those crack babies have same opportunity as I, they are just ……………………..lazy. NOT like I.”
then this came to mind….
“ I know now to eat….I chose the salmon filet special at lunch with the boys today during our monthly team meeting….…I didn’t get the cheeseburger…like those dumb poor people that went to McDonalds and are now fat”. Empathy “Head of lettuce is 99 Cents why don’t they eat that…its cheap vegetable” Empathy.
Empathy, putting yourself in the shoes of another…..of a teenage suicide bomber…who’s life sucks so bad…that has had idiotic beliefs drilled in their heads, they feel so desperate that they strap bombs to their bodies and are willing to exterminate themselves, obliterate themselves….not knowing how much it will indeed hurt….no future of family, kids, grandkids…all that never a thought….…………..and we call them cowards!! HOW??? If you have a smallest sliver of empathy you would realize this is the farthest thing from being a coward. Diving a plane into a mountain being a coward?!?!?! Really? This dude was sick….he flew headfirst into a mountain…..I don’t have the balls to do this….I could never commit suicide……I am a coward, but I have empathy.
Empathy understanding depression, understanding sexual drive, understanding other’s needs, wants, insecurities…….empathy. You against gays? Rub you the wrong way?. You ever think how it must suck to not be attracted to opposite sex, going against family, society..and GOD!!!!!! Fuck that must suck big time…….I can barely just imagine…just barely or maybe not at all….. Empathy
Empathy, “those damn wetbacks coming over here taking our jobs”. They risk all they have, culture, family, security, risk of life and limb, risk of imprisonment…for $5.00 an hour….empathy…..yet skip the fact that Americans hire them….they are but poor pawns…in the game of hate and votes. Empathy.
Challenge yourselves….it’s not the evil doers, its humans just like you, that have the same wants and wishes for themselves and families as you….they ARE you.
I believe in empathy (not sympathy) for everyone, empathy is one of the truly distinctive things about humans.
Empathy
Believe empathy is key to human harmony. World harmony. Plant and animal harmony.
Empathy is the enemy of the machine. Hard to motivate the masses……… if they have empathy. Hard to have workers increasing efficiency 150% and laying off your coworkers when you have Empathy.
Empathy is the enemy of wars, how can one justify the killing of women and children…..for economic security, FOR money if one has empathy.
Empathy takes away human validation Rather than understanding the plight of your fellow man…one without empathy takes comfort if feeling special, smarter, better equipped. My favorite on this board……. “Being a white male gives me no advantages, I worked hard. I had good morals. Those crack babies have same opportunity as I, they are just ……………………..lazy. NOT like I.”
then this came to mind….
“ I know now to eat….I chose the salmon filet special at lunch with the boys today during our monthly team meeting….…I didn’t get the cheeseburger…like those dumb poor people that went to McDonalds and are now fat”. Empathy “Head of lettuce is 99 Cents why don’t they eat that…its cheap vegetable” Empathy.
Empathy, putting yourself in the shoes of another…..of a teenage suicide bomber…who’s life sucks so bad…that has had idiotic beliefs drilled in their heads, they feel so desperate that they strap bombs to their bodies and are willing to exterminate themselves, obliterate themselves….not knowing how much it will indeed hurt….no future of family, kids, grandkids…all that never a thought….…………..and we call them cowards!! HOW??? If you have a smallest sliver of empathy you would realize this is the farthest thing from being a coward. Diving a plane into a mountain being a coward?!?!?! Really? This dude was sick….he flew headfirst into a mountain…..I don’t have the balls to do this….I could never commit suicide……I am a coward, but I have empathy.
Empathy understanding depression, understanding sexual drive, understanding other’s needs, wants, insecurities…….empathy. You against gays? Rub you the wrong way?. You ever think how it must suck to not be attracted to opposite sex, going against family, society..and GOD!!!!!! Fuck that must suck big time…….I can barely just imagine…just barely or maybe not at all….. Empathy
Empathy, “those damn wetbacks coming over here taking our jobs”. They risk all they have, culture, family, security, risk of life and limb, risk of imprisonment…for $5.00 an hour….empathy…..yet skip the fact that Americans hire them….they are but poor pawns…in the game of hate and votes. Empathy.
Challenge yourselves….it’s not the evil doers, its humans just like you, that have the same wants and wishes for themselves and families as you….they ARE you.
Peace.
Do you have empathy for white privileged males? I apologize because that was an unfair generalization.
If depression was the reason behind this murderous act, I wouldn't leave my house every day because a good percentage of the nation is on meds for depression and another good percentage are left un-diagnosed .
This guy epitomizes pure evil. He had a lot of time to comprehend what he was doing, in pre-planning and execution, yet he continued to murder a 150 people and destroy 150 families under a calm demeanor while under pressure by those aboard to plea for mercy.
If he was standing on the ledge of a building while threatening to jump while people pleaded for him to reconsider, then empathy is warranted. This guy has no reason to give pity.
I believe in empathy (not sympathy) for everyone, empathy is one of the truly distinctive things about humans.
Empathy
Believe empathy is key to human harmony. World harmony. Plant and animal harmony.
Empathy is the enemy of the machine. Hard to motivate the masses……… if they have empathy. Hard to have workers increasing efficiency 150% and laying off your coworkers when you have Empathy.
Empathy is the enemy of wars, how can one justify the killing of women and children…..for economic security, FOR money if one has empathy.
Empathy takes away human validation Rather than understanding the plight of your fellow man…one without empathy takes comfort if feeling special, smarter, better equipped. My favorite on this board……. “Being a white male gives me no advantages, I worked hard. I had good morals. Those crack babies have same opportunity as I, they are just ……………………..lazy. NOT like I.”
then this came to mind….
“ I know now to eat….I chose the salmon filet special at lunch with the boys today during our monthly team meeting….…I didn’t get the cheeseburger…like those dumb poor people that went to McDonalds and are now fat”. Empathy “Head of lettuce is 99 Cents why don’t they eat that…its cheap vegetable” Empathy.
Empathy, putting yourself in the shoes of another…..of a teenage suicide bomber…who’s life sucks so bad…that has had idiotic beliefs drilled in their heads, they feel so desperate that they strap bombs to their bodies and are willing to exterminate themselves, obliterate themselves….not knowing how much it will indeed hurt….no future of family, kids, grandkids…all that never a thought….…………..and we call them cowards!! HOW??? If you have a smallest sliver of empathy you would realize this is the farthest thing from being a coward. Diving a plane into a mountain being a coward?!?!?! Really? This dude was sick….he flew headfirst into a mountain…..I don’t have the balls to do this….I could never commit suicide……I am a coward, but I have empathy.
Empathy understanding depression, understanding sexual drive, understanding other’s needs, wants, insecurities…….empathy. You against gays? Rub you the wrong way?. You ever think how it must suck to not be attracted to opposite sex, going against family, society..and GOD!!!!!! Fuck that must suck big time…….I can barely just imagine…just barely or maybe not at all….. Empathy
Empathy, “those damn wetbacks coming over here taking our jobs”. They risk all they have, culture, family, security, risk of life and limb, risk of imprisonment…for $5.00 an hour….empathy…..yet skip the fact that Americans hire them….they are but poor pawns…in the game of hate and votes. Empathy.
Challenge yourselves….it’s not the evil doers, its humans just like you, that have the same wants and wishes for themselves and families as you….they ARE you.
Peace.
Do you have empathy for white privileged males? I apologize because that was an unfair generalization.
If depression was the reason behind this murderous act, I wouldn't leave my house every day because a good percentage of the nation is on meds for depression and another good percentage are left un-diagnosed .
This guy epitomizes pure evil. He had a lot of time to comprehend what he was doing, in pre-planning and execution, yet he continued to murder a 150 people and destroy 150 families under a calm demeanor while under pressure by those aboard to plea for mercy.
If he was standing on the ledge of a building while threatening to jump while people pleaded for him to reconsider, then empathy is warranted. This guy has no reason to give pity.
i had a several month episode of severe depression a few years ago.
the only life i thought about taking was my own.
do not let the media smear this man because of his mental illness. smear him for his sober, deliberate, and calculated plotting of and carrying out a mass murder.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
i had a several month episode of severe depression a few years ago.
the only life i thought about taking was my own.
do not let the media smear this man because of his mental illness. smear him for his sober, deliberate, and calculated plotting of and carrying out a mass murder.
I think we often see (some) issues quite differently, but - and while I'm in no position to disregard his prior (?) mental state - this is right on.
i had a several month episode of severe depression a few years ago.
the only life i thought about taking was my own.
do not let the media smear this man because of his mental illness. smear him for his sober, deliberate, and calculated plotting of and carrying out a mass murder.
Don't let my praise of this post make you question what you wrote, Gimmie (like Hedo expressed as well... we've disagreed a lot lately).
This post concisely sums up what I've been thinking, but have been unable to express.
i had a several month episode of severe depression a few years ago.
the only life i thought about taking was my own.
do not let the media smear this man because of his mental illness. smear him for his sober, deliberate, and calculated plotting of and carrying out a mass murder.
So please give us all some truth. How did you get through your severe bout of depression a few years ago? You wanted to take your life and you didn't......... What was your cure
i had a several month episode of severe depression a few years ago.
the only life i thought about taking was my own.
do not let the media smear this man because of his mental illness. smear him for his sober, deliberate, and calculated plotting of and carrying out a mass murder.
Come on Gimmie not at all what I wrote. The guy was a psychopath but rather than shout obscenities why not understand and find out why and learn from it. My post really had nothing to do with thread topic other than he wasn't a coward.
i had a several month episode of severe depression a few years ago.
the only life i thought about taking was my own.
do not let the media smear this man because of his mental illness. smear him for his sober, deliberate, and calculated plotting of and carrying out a mass murder.
So please give us all some truth. How did you get through your severe bout of depression a few years ago? You wanted to take your life and you didn't......... What was your cure
To be fair, it's his truth. Different paths and means for different people.
In my 20s, I'd quit smoking (didn't stick, but beside the point). It fucked with my skin at the time - how the toxins come out. That itself was tough enough, but then I was prescribed Accutane. This shit will fuck with your mind. I wasn't suicidal but had some of the darkest thoughts I've ever had.
Stopping that medicine was easy enough (and I'll say it made my skin beautiful albeit via a messed up process), but not all people have the luxury of just "ceasing" the cause.
To be fair I would hope that paid professionals who sign off a person to be fit to fly better brace for the consequences of their error (more so than tucking heads down between ther
i had a several month episode of severe depression a few years ago.
the only life i thought about taking was my own.
do not let the media smear this man because of his mental illness. smear him for his sober, deliberate, and calculated plotting of and carrying out a mass murder.
i had a several month episode of severe depression a few years ago.
the only life i thought about taking was my own.
do not let the media smear this man because of his mental illness. smear him for his sober, deliberate, and calculated plotting of and carrying out a mass murder.
Don't let my praise of this post make you question what you wrote, Gimmie (like Hedo expressed as well... we've disagreed a lot lately).
This post concisely sums up what I've been thinking, but have been unable to express.
* Welcome to the dark side. LOL!!!
Hey Thirty,Should we get him a membership card and send him the perk package.
i had a several month episode of severe depression a few years ago.
the only life i thought about taking was my own.
do not let the media smear this man because of his mental illness. smear him for his sober, deliberate, and calculated plotting of and carrying out a mass murder.
Don't let my praise of this post make you question what you wrote, Gimmie (like Hedo expressed as well... we've disagreed a lot lately).
This post concisely sums up what I've been thinking, but have been unable to express.
* Welcome to the dark side. LOL!!!
Hey Thirty,Should we get him a membership card and send him the perk package.
LOL
I just pulled mine out. Catchy 1st page heading: 'Welcome to the Dark Side'
i had a several month episode of severe depression a few years ago.
the only life i thought about taking was my own.
do not let the media smear this man because of his mental illness. smear him for his sober, deliberate, and calculated plotting of and carrying out a mass murder.
Don't let my praise of this post make you question what you wrote, Gimmie (like Hedo expressed as well... we've disagreed a lot lately).
This post concisely sums up what I've been thinking, but have been unable to express.
* Welcome to the dark side. LOL!!!
Hey Thirty,Should we get him a membership card and send him the perk package.
LOL
I just pulled mine out. Catchy 1st page heading: 'Welcome to the Dark Side'
I have mine in a lanyard I wear around my neck Everytime I log on to this site.lol
I believe in empathy (not sympathy) for everyone, empathy is one of the truly distinctive things about humans.
Empathy
Believe empathy is key to human harmony. World harmony. Plant and animal harmony.
Empathy is the enemy of the machine. Hard to motivate the masses……… if they have empathy. Hard to have workers increasing efficiency 150% and laying off your coworkers when you have Empathy.
Empathy is the enemy of wars, how can one justify the killing of women and children…..for economic security, FOR money if one has empathy.
Empathy takes away human validation Rather than understanding the plight of your fellow man…one without empathy takes comfort if feeling special, smarter, better equipped. My favorite on this board……. “Being a white male gives me no advantages, I worked hard. I had good morals. Those crack babies have same opportunity as I, they are just ……………………..lazy. NOT like I.”
then this came to mind….
“ I know now to eat….I chose the salmon filet special at lunch with the boys today during our monthly team meeting….…I didn’t get the cheeseburger…like those dumb poor people that went to McDonalds and are now fat”. Empathy “Head of lettuce is 99 Cents why don’t they eat that…its cheap vegetable” Empathy.
Empathy, putting yourself in the shoes of another…..of a teenage suicide bomber…who’s life sucks so bad…that has had idiotic beliefs drilled in their heads, they feel so desperate that they strap bombs to their bodies and are willing to exterminate themselves, obliterate themselves….not knowing how much it will indeed hurt….no future of family, kids, grandkids…all that never a thought….…………..and we call them cowards!! HOW??? If you have a smallest sliver of empathy you would realize this is the farthest thing from being a coward. Diving a plane into a mountain being a coward?!?!?! Really? This dude was sick….he flew headfirst into a mountain…..I don’t have the balls to do this….I could never commit suicide……I am a coward, but I have empathy.
Empathy understanding depression, understanding sexual drive, understanding other’s needs, wants, insecurities…….empathy. You against gays? Rub you the wrong way?. You ever think how it must suck to not be attracted to opposite sex, going against family, society..and GOD!!!!!! Fuck that must suck big time…….I can barely just imagine…just barely or maybe not at all….. Empathy
Empathy, “those damn wetbacks coming over here taking our jobs”. They risk all they have, culture, family, security, risk of life and limb, risk of imprisonment…for $5.00 an hour….empathy…..yet skip the fact that Americans hire them….they are but poor pawns…in the game of hate and votes. Empathy.
Challenge yourselves….it’s not the evil doers, its humans just like you, that have the same wants and wishes for themselves and families as you….they ARE you.
Peace.
Do you have empathy for white privileged males? I apologize because that was an unfair generalization.
If depression was the reason behind this murderous act, I wouldn't leave my house every day because a good percentage of the nation is on meds for depression and another good percentage are left un-diagnosed .
This guy epitomizes pure evil. He had a lot of time to comprehend what he was doing, in pre-planning and execution, yet he continued to murder a 150 people and destroy 150 families under a calm demeanor while under pressure by those aboard to plea for mercy.
If he was standing on the ledge of a building while threatening to jump while people pleaded for him to reconsider, then empathy is warranted. This guy has no reason to give pity.
You are confusing empathy with sympathy I think.
Possibly, although I consider myself to be pragmatic.
I see this guy as being an defective human being that the system allowed to fly commercial airplanes by mistake.
I still feel really sad for the victims that were happy about scoring a cheap flight only to have this asshole murder them.
For this guy, No empathy. No sympathy. He should be judged in history as the lowest of the low.
Possibly, although I consider myself to be pragmatic.
I see this guy as being an defective human being that the system allowed to fly commercial airplanes by mistake.
I still feel really sad for the victims that were happy about scoring a cheap flight only to have this asshole murder them.
For this guy, No empathy. No sympathy. He should be judged in history as the lowest of the low.
Jason, after learning of the research found on his computer or whatever device it was, I must echo this.
I've tried to write the following a couple of times but can't seem to find the right words. I guess my empathy and sympathy are with those grieving over their loss and then having to come to grips with the sick circumstances of that loss.
Got a not from my Pop today- he was an aeronautical engineer for United Airlines for many years. He ran into a friend who is a retired UAL pilot and asked the fellow what he thought of the crash. The retired pilot's only rely was, "We did it right , didn't we?", referring to the fact that United has a rule that there is always two in the cockpit. If one of the pilots needs a pit stop, a cabin attendant takes his or her place in the cockpit.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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"So I guess this is where I tell you what I learned - my conclusion, right? Well, my conclusion is: Hate is baggage. Life's too short to be pissed off all the time. It's just not worth it."
They were for me - not necessarily acting on them, but to experience and then release them, in so many means available? They're footsteps to feeling...clean. Like medicine, almost.
But I think there is a fine line between passion and hate. I think it's too easy to dismiss someone as having hatred within them when they speak passionately about subjects. Everything can't be vanilla.
By the way, I remember your past you shared with us now that you've reminded us. Good for you for holding the mindset you do.
As well... great movie.
I don't have anything to say about the families and those touched by this heinous tragedy, except that I hope they find peace in whatever way they can.
Where I open my mouth is here, half a world away, where the anger and hatred serve no purpose, and give no advancement down that path to peace.
It reminds me of the zealots who are ridiculously passionate about abortion... I see them literally foaming at the mouth and I wonder how they can care so much about something which has ZERO effect on their own life. I am left with the conclusion that they are projecting rage from some other problem they have into an external issue, for whatever reason. I see some resemblance between that and issues of "justice".
I definitely agree that passion is important, a fire in the belly is beyond value.
Some will not find ease of mind because there is no sense in the death of the victims and maybe there will be no mortal remains for all of them to take home to bury. That´s the worst case for loving families.
So if you can´t find sense in what happened and you can´t find something to forgive it´s better to handle it with anger as to fall in a hole. Then you will not getting through it, never. You might think you did got through it till you find out (maybe many years later) that you did not!
Believe me...you need a reason like human or technical error or anger/passion to overcome this drama and find peace. But how can you forgive someone who (might) did murder your loved ones on purpose with criminal intent ?
I just can hope all who are involved can find their own way soon. But it´s sad... I disbelieve that.
Anger usually isn´t a very good companion...this is an exemption.
Then there are the parents of the pilot...don´t like to imagine how they will get through this...
Believe empathy is key to human harmony. World harmony. Plant and animal harmony.
Empathy is the enemy of the machine. Hard to motivate the masses……… if they have empathy. Hard to have workers increasing efficiency 150% and laying off your coworkers when you have Empathy.
Empathy is the enemy of wars, how can one justify the killing of women and children…..for economic security, FOR money if one has empathy.
Empathy takes away human validation Rather than understanding the plight of your fellow man…one without empathy takes comfort if feeling special, smarter, better equipped. My favorite on this board……. “Being a white male gives me no advantages, I worked hard. I had good morals. Those crack babies have same opportunity as I, they are just ……………………..lazy. NOT like I.”
then this came to mind….
“ I know now to eat….I chose the salmon filet special at lunch with the boys today during our monthly team meeting….…I didn’t get the cheeseburger…like those dumb poor people that went to McDonalds and are now fat”. Empathy “Head of lettuce is 99 Cents why don’t they eat that…its cheap vegetable” Empathy.
Empathy, putting yourself in the shoes of another…..of a teenage suicide bomber…who’s life sucks so bad…that has had idiotic beliefs drilled in their heads, they feel so desperate that they strap bombs to their bodies and are willing to exterminate themselves, obliterate themselves….not knowing how much it will indeed hurt….no future of family, kids, grandkids…all that never a thought….…………..and we call them cowards!! HOW??? If you have a smallest sliver of empathy you would realize this is the farthest thing from being a coward. Diving a plane into a mountain being a coward?!?!?! Really? This dude was sick….he flew headfirst into a mountain…..I don’t have the balls to do this….I could never commit suicide……I am a coward, but I have empathy.
Empathy understanding depression, understanding sexual drive, understanding other’s needs, wants, insecurities…….empathy. You against gays? Rub you the wrong way?. You ever think how it must suck to not be attracted to opposite sex, going against family, society..and GOD!!!!!! Fuck that must suck big time…….I can barely just imagine…just barely or maybe not at all….. Empathy
Empathy, “those damn wetbacks coming over here taking our jobs”. They risk all they have, culture, family, security, risk of life and limb, risk of imprisonment…for $5.00 an hour….empathy…..yet skip the fact that Americans hire them….they are but poor pawns…in the game of hate and votes. Empathy.
Challenge yourselves….it’s not the evil doers, its humans just like you, that have the same wants and wishes for themselves and families as you….they ARE you.
Peace.
I have to say, though - some of these people are NOT me (I'm talking about those who take deliberate actions to harm or kill others).
If depression was the reason behind this murderous act, I wouldn't leave my house every day because a good percentage of the nation is on meds for depression and another good percentage are left un-diagnosed .
This guy epitomizes pure evil. He had a lot of time to comprehend what he was doing, in pre-planning and execution, yet he continued to murder a 150 people and destroy 150 families under a calm demeanor while under pressure by those aboard to plea for mercy.
If he was standing on the ledge of a building while threatening to jump while people pleaded for him to reconsider, then empathy is warranted. This guy has no reason to give pity.
i had a several month episode of severe depression a few years ago.
the only life i thought about taking was my own.
do not let the media smear this man because of his mental illness. smear him for his sober, deliberate, and calculated plotting of and carrying out a mass murder.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
This post concisely sums up what I've been thinking, but have been unable to express.
* Welcome to the dark side. LOL!!!
How did you get through your severe bout of depression a few years ago?
You wanted to take your life and you didn't.........
What was your cure
In my 20s, I'd quit smoking (didn't stick, but beside the point). It fucked with my skin at the time - how the toxins come out. That itself was tough enough, but then I was prescribed Accutane. This shit will fuck with your mind. I wasn't suicidal but had some of the darkest thoughts I've ever had.
Stopping that medicine was easy enough (and I'll say it made my skin beautiful albeit via a messed up process), but not all people have the luxury of just "ceasing" the cause.
You have not been involved in your thread.
What do you think so far?
I just pulled mine out. Catchy 1st page heading: 'Welcome to the Dark Side'
I see this guy as being an defective human being that the system allowed to fly commercial airplanes by mistake.
I still feel really sad for the victims that were happy about scoring a cheap flight only to have this asshole murder them.
For this guy, No empathy. No sympathy. He should be judged in history as the lowest of the low.
I've tried to write the following a couple of times but can't seem to find the right words. I guess my empathy and sympathy are with those grieving over their loss and then having to come to grips with the sick circumstances of that loss.
Where are you in this thread you started?
B, thank *something* for that rule. If only in this case...
Seems the more I learn of it, the more heartbreaking it is.