GREEN DISEASE Released: December 12, 2002 COMPOSER: Vedder ARTIST: Pearl Jam Lyrics It's a disease,... and they're all green It emanates from their being A satiation,.. with occupation
And like weeds,.. with big leaves Stealing light from what's beneath Where they have more,... Still they take more
Course I know,.. then I don't There's a stowaway with my throat It's deceiving... I don't believe him
We can scream,.. out our doors Behind the wall a fat man snores In his dreams he's,... Choking Ti leaves
Well I guess There's nothing wrong with what you say But don't sell me, 'There can't be better ways'
Tell the captain 'This boats not safe And we're drowning.' Turns out He's the one making waves
I said There's nothing wrong with what you say Believe me Just asking you to sway No white Or black Just grey Can you feel this... World with your heart and not your brain?
G-R-E-E-D..... G-R-E-E-D
It's ironic that this song is off Riot Act, as in my opinion that was the end Pearl Jam BINC. and everything after is Pearl Jam AINC.
The only reason I think this subject needs dialogue is because the band was so vocal about some of the things they hated, which they now do as well. When someone or something uses their fame to make a point and then without explanation reverses course, don't you feel that deserves calling out?
name one SPECIFIC thing the band spoke out against but now does.
uh off the top of my head, Grammy's, commercialism, greed, shall I continue?
The only reason I think this subject needs dialogue is because the band was so vocal about some of the things they hated, which they now do as well. When someone or something uses their fame to make a point and then without explanation reverses course, don't you feel that deserves calling out?
name one SPECIFIC thing the band spoke out against but now does.
uh off the top of my head, Grammy's, commercialism, greed, shall I continue?
What about Grammys??
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
The only reason I think this subject needs dialogue is because the band was so vocal about some of the things they hated, which they now do as well. When someone or something uses their fame to make a point and then without explanation reverses course, don't you feel that deserves calling out?
name one SPECIFIC thing the band spoke out against but now does.
Doing a private event for Oracle was a bit weird.... then again, they donated the proceeds to charity (and played Green Disease while they were at it, which I thought was fairly hilarious). So I'm neutral at worst on that one.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
GREEN DISEASE Released: December 12, 2002 COMPOSER: Vedder ARTIST: Pearl Jam Lyrics It's a disease,... and they're all green It emanates from their being A satiation,.. with occupation
And like weeds,.. with big leaves Stealing light from what's beneath Where they have more,... Still they take more
Course I know,.. then I don't There's a stowaway with my throat It's deceiving... I don't believe him
We can scream,.. out our doors Behind the wall a fat man snores In his dreams he's,... Choking Ti leaves
Well I guess There's nothing wrong with what you say But don't sell me, 'There can't be better ways'
Tell the captain 'This boats not safe And we're drowning.' Turns out He's the one making waves
I said There's nothing wrong with what you say Believe me Just asking you to sway No white Or black Just grey Can you feel this... World with your heart and not your brain?
G-R-E-E-D..... G-R-E-E-D
It's ironic that this song is off Riot Act, as in my opinion that was the end Pearl Jam BINC. and everything after is Pearl Jam AINC.
I have no idea what that means.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
The only reason I think this subject needs dialogue is because the band was so vocal about some of the things they hated, which they now do as well. When someone or something uses their fame to make a point and then without explanation reverses course, don't you feel that deserves calling out?
name one SPECIFIC thing the band spoke out against but now does.
uh off the top of my head, Grammy's, commercialism, greed, shall I continue?
I'll admit the Grammy acknowledgement one confused me. but that might have more to do with other artists being involved in the packaging. or they have just softened on the issue. who knows.
But the other ones are not specific.
are you saying that Pearl Jam are greedy? they have never been against capitalism. they have been against capitalism at the expense of others. pearl jam is not creating their merch in sweat shops in asia, or employing immigrants for less than minimum wage. remember, one message that pearl jam have often highlighted is the misconception that they hate america. they don't hate america or western culture. they just disliked economic injustice of the person. not sure how them making a few shirts for sale equates to that.
regarding commercialism, are you implying the band puts out inferior products/music for purely profit purposes?
The only reason I think this subject needs dialogue is because the band was so vocal about some of the things they hated, which they now do as well. When someone or something uses their fame to make a point and then without explanation reverses course, don't you feel that deserves calling out?
name one SPECIFIC thing the band spoke out against but now does.
Well they did sing drop the Leash and now they sell dog collars....
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Visa has "priceless", mastercard "there are some things money can't buy,.." Pearl Jam should use discover more in the shop, as it really is the mo lately!
as a band gets bigger......they have more to do. more to do means more people to employ. more people to employ means..........you see where I'm going with this? it's really not hard to understand.
all bands are a business. they have been from day 1. whether you sell 3 records or 3 million. and business decisions have to be made. marketing your music has to be done. make no mistake about that.
anyway, we get a thread or two about this every few months, and it always goes nowhere, since the person starting is merely looking for a soapbox and not a real discussion, so let's just call this one, shall we?
I shall end with one final thought: if you truly believe the band goes against their (and it seems, your) social beliefs, doesn't your support of that band make you a hypocrite or a part of the problem?
as a band gets bigger......they have more to do. more to do means more people to employ. more people to employ means..........you see where I'm going with this? it's really not hard to understand.
all bands are a business. they have been from day 1. whether you sell 3 records or 3 million. and business decisions have to be made. marketing your music has to be done. make no mistake about that.
anyway, we get a thread or two about this every few months, and it always goes nowhere, since the person starting is merely looking for a soapbox and not a real discussion, so let's just call this one, shall we?
I shall end with one final thought: if you truly believe the band goes against their (and it seems, your) social beliefs, doesn't your support of that band make you a hypocrite or a part of the problem?
your like the ultimate voice of reason, very hard to argue your points. I guess I'm struggling with my support or "fandom" and instead of a soapbox, I'm using this forum to gauge wether I should continue supporting what I believe has become more of a corporation (seeking my yearly membership dues and merchandise consumption) and less like band.
I am aware of what Eddie said at the Grammys. Eddie has since expressed real regret for doing that btw, and not recently. He said he was in a really pissy mood, was nic'ing out for a smoke, and admitted that was pretty rude of him to do that. Especially since he opted to actually be at the Grammys to accept the award. Did you see the really nice and gracious acceptance speech from the guy who accepted the most recent Grammy?
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
And you believe that one of the band members posted this... or the person responsible to drive sales into their shop?
I really love the "discover more in the shop" part! Really good salesmanship!
That's just somebody working at the 10C warehouse who posted that, FYI. The band would have had absolutely nothing to do with that message.
lol, "somebody" in the warehouse has the ability to make posts on their official twitter page? lol! now that is the funniest shit I have ever read!
Hold on, you actually think the band members are the ones posting to the social media accounts?????
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Still patiently waiting for you to offer another band with similar ticket prices.
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I am aware of what Eddie said at the Grammys. Eddie has since expressed real regret for doing that btw, and not recently. He said he was in a really pissy mood, was nic'ing out for a smoke, and admitted that was pretty rude of him to do that. Especially since he opted to actually be at the Grammys to accept the award. Did you see the really nice and gracious acceptance speech from the guy who accepted the most recent Grammy?
I didn't know he had since expressed regret. But I did always think it was weird that he made that statement, yet bothered to show up to the show. if you hate awards shows, why go to an awards show?
as a band gets bigger......they have more to do. more to do means more people to employ. more people to employ means..........you see where I'm going with this? it's really not hard to understand.
all bands are a business. they have been from day 1. whether you sell 3 records or 3 million. and business decisions have to be made. marketing your music has to be done. make no mistake about that.
anyway, we get a thread or two about this every few months, and it always goes nowhere, since the person starting is merely looking for a soapbox and not a real discussion, so let's just call this one, shall we?
I shall end with one final thought: if you truly believe the band goes against their (and it seems, your) social beliefs, doesn't your support of that band make you a hypocrite or a part of the problem?
your like the ultimate voice of reason, very hard to argue your points. I guess I'm struggling with my support or "fandom" and instead of a soapbox, I'm using this forum to gauge wether I should continue supporting what I believe has become more of a corporation (seeking my yearly membership dues and merchandise consumption) and less like band.
Basically, get yourself ready to never listen to music again. You will never find a mainstream, even indie band that isn't a business. Maybe you want to listen to some screechy pre-pubescent garage band that knows about 4 chords because they have no shirts to sell. That's cool, go for it. Bands are a business, some worse than others, but all bands are a form of business.
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But the other ones are not specific.
are you saying that Pearl Jam are greedy? they have never been against capitalism. they have been against capitalism at the expense of others. pearl jam is not creating their merch in sweat shops in asia, or employing immigrants for less than minimum wage. remember, one message that pearl jam have often highlighted is the misconception that they hate america. they don't hate america or western culture. they just disliked economic injustice of the person. not sure how them making a few shirts for sale equates to that.
regarding commercialism, are you implying the band puts out inferior products/music for purely profit purposes?
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all bands are a business. they have been from day 1. whether you sell 3 records or 3 million. and business decisions have to be made. marketing your music has to be done. make no mistake about that.
anyway, we get a thread or two about this every few months, and it always goes nowhere, since the person starting is merely looking for a soapbox and not a real discussion, so let's just call this one, shall we?
I shall end with one final thought: if you truly believe the band goes against their (and it seems, your) social beliefs, doesn't your support of that band make you a hypocrite or a part of the problem?
www.headstonesband.com
Did you see the really nice and gracious acceptance speech from the guy who accepted the most recent Grammy?
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Aerosmith seems to be about same, I'm sure their are others...
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