Layaway section in the shop?
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Do you guys think they have a Benny at tj maxx? I have one close to my house.0
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Not sure, but I did snag a copy of Springsteen's "Wrecking Ball" on wax at a TJ Maxx for $5 once.badbrains said:Do you guys think they have a Benny at tj maxx? I have one close to my house.
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Damn, that's a score.jerparker20 said:
Not sure, but I did snag a copy of Springsteen's "Wrecking Ball" on wax at a TJ Maxx for $5 once.badbrains said:Do you guys think they have a Benny at tj maxx? I have one close to my house.
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All of the boys are dog lovers. It seems a lot of the merch they sell is stuff they would like from their favourite band. That's just the impression I get.High Fidelity 2000 said:
Well... the $40 dog collars WERE a fuckin' cash grab. I don't see any other way to defend that one... pretty fucking lame, even more so than the Target commercial. They also have sold a LOT of ugly t-shirts the past few years since increasing mercy. I agree they used to have like 2 shirts for sale. Now they have a lot but they all kinda suck. Except Halloween 2014 shirt.mfc2006 said:quick take...
people ask for more merch
they sell more merch
and it's a cashgrab?
not trying to stir the pot, honestly ...just asking a question.
and to quote someone else in this thread...it's not 1991 & things have changed (for better or worse).....
so??
so.....
they post something in the shop...
if I don't like it, I don't buy it
If I do like it, maybe I buy it?
I missed out on Benny & bought the cd b/c my record player was broken. Now, I have to sell an organ to own that record. Is that their fault? Or mine? Or who gives a fuck?
If you see it & want it, get it. If not, move along. Pretty simple, really.
Or maybe I have not been in the "know" so long that I'm naive. If so, let me know.
Like others have said, the music is the most important. That, and the experiences I've had while seeing them live. The people I've met, etc, etc....
rambling post over.
cheers & be well,
Matt
Does anyone here truly believe this band needs to, much less wants to, do things for money? Do you really think a few people spending $40 is going to make a lick of difference to their collective or ondividual bottom lines? I don't.
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I never understood the people that get so butt hurt over what a band puts out merchandise wise...who really cares? Who gives two shits what they offer for sale at the shows?
- Oh no...they are offering posters. Oh no...now they are offering stickers. waaaaaaaahhhhhh we can't get them...the flippers are getting everything...why not produce more?!?!? 10C you suck....wahhhh, waaaahhhh, waaaaaaaaahhhhhhh, offer posters on the website. Produce more. Fuck the flippers...waaaah, waaah, waaah.
- Well here you go...here's posters on the website...and now the fans won't buy them...what should they do with them? use them as toilet paper? let's offer them for a bit cheaper...maybe someone who couldnt afford them the first time around can buy something...
- Oh no...how dare 10C discount their products to get rid of them...waaaaaaahhhh, waaaaaaaahhhhh, waaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!! Clearance section? waaaaah, waaaaah, waaaaah...what's next...the band is selling out...blaaaaaaah, blaaaaaah, blaaaaaah.
There's always some Pearl Jam fan that's butt hurt about something. lol.
It's about the music...everything else comes with the territory...don't like it? Do yourself a favor and try to find "the next big thing". Or stay off the website...then you wouldn't have to see the clearance section.I Know All The Rules But The Rules Do Not Know Me.0 -
Here's a smart guy...this guy does exactly what I described. Enjoys the music, avoids the bullshit.iOnlyownMymind said:Well there's plenty of people quick to jump on this guy or anyone who voices something negative that they feel but I think vzouzal is more or less right. I guess the band is trying to stay up with today's world which is fine but I do think it's gone a bit overboard as well. I pretty much avoid the majority of it though.
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If they did a 360 then they'd still be going in the same direction...
Sorry, had to say it...Post edited by whofeelslikeadrank onFirst: ATL2 04/03/1994
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good call! 180 is what i should have written.tempo_n_groove said:
If they did a 360 then they'd still be going in the same direction...vzouzal said:
I was unaware opinions were "cool", but if that's the case, cool! I apologize if my negative opinions regarding Pearl Jam offended you. If it makes you feel any better, they are and always will be my favourite band. I just feel like they have completely pulled a 360 over the past 5-7 years and it has surprised so much, that I felt compelled to make a little noise.on2legs said:
I love when the cool self righteous people make an appearance.vzouzal said:Since the shop is now like a TJ Maxx, with a clearance section, I was wondering if a layaway section is in the works?
Honestly between the shop, "mystery box's" ,trading cards wtf? , videos for Target and being so enamoured with the Grammy for best packaging, the once mighty and proud PJ has certainly changed. And change is fine by me, evolution is inevitable, but not all change is necessary or desirable.
I will always love the music, because the music is pure. But this ugly marketing machine is starting to play on my last nerve.
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For those younger fans just discovering the band, this ain't your Fathers Pearl Jam!
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again Im not lecturing anyone, just wanted to see what other people thought and hopefully spark a debate...on2legs said:
No offense taken. I actually like when the cool self righteous people arrive to lecture all of us.vzouzal said:
I was unaware opinions were "cool", but if that's the case, cool! I apologize if my negative opinions regarding Pearl Jam offended you. If it makes you feel any better, they are and always will be my favourite band. I just feel like they have completely pulled a 360 over the past 5-7 years and it has surprised so much, that I felt compelled to make a little noise.on2legs said:
I love when the cool self righteous people make an appearance.vzouzal said:Since the shop is now like a TJ Maxx, with a clearance section, I was wondering if a layaway section is in the works?
Honestly between the shop, "mystery box's" ,trading cards wtf? , videos for Target and being so enamoured with the Grammy for best packaging, the once mighty and proud PJ has certainly changed. And change is fine by me, evolution is inevitable, but not all change is necessary or desirable.
I will always love the music, because the music is pure. But this ugly marketing machine is starting to play on my last nerve.
***************SPOILER ALERT********************
For those younger fans just discovering the band, this ain't your Fathers Pearl Jam!
Actually i think it's funny you keep on referring to self righteousness, as I ultimately think that's why I felt the need to call the band out in the 1st place. Their 1st 10-12.5 years could be viewed as pretty self righteous vs. the last 10-12.5, which is the 180 (360 lol) I referred to.0 -
OP, do you think it is the band catering to the wants of the fans? I like playing frisbee (not golf but ultimate). If they put out a cool PJ Ultimate frisbee I would definitely buy it. In fact I would love to have one.
So it's mutual, they make some money and the fans get what they want.0 -
I guess I can see the other side on the shop/merch, It's hard to imagine that they are operating so corporately now.
But the grammy thing just makes me smile. Maybe understanding/appreciating Grammy's is something that comes with a little more distance in the rearviewmirror, but wasn't Ed like 30 already, so it's not like a "petulant kid" just spouting off.Post edited by vzouzal on0 -
I think you have it completely wrong. There is no 180 in their behavior. The band has always been about doing what they want to do regardless of what others think. And if right now they want more shirts for sale then that's what they're going to do. Even if you don't like it. I'm sure Ed would give you the same middle finger he gave ticketmaster 20 years ago.vzouzal said:
again Im not lecturing anyone, just wanted to see what other people thought and hopefully spark a debate...on2legs said:
No offense taken. I actually like when the cool self righteous people arrive to lecture all of us.vzouzal said:
I was unaware opinions were "cool", but if that's the case, cool! I apologize if my negative opinions regarding Pearl Jam offended you. If it makes you feel any better, they are and always will be my favourite band. I just feel like they have completely pulled a 360 over the past 5-7 years and it has surprised so much, that I felt compelled to make a little noise.on2legs said:
I love when the cool self righteous people make an appearance.vzouzal said:Since the shop is now like a TJ Maxx, with a clearance section, I was wondering if a layaway section is in the works?
Honestly between the shop, "mystery box's" ,trading cards wtf? , videos for Target and being so enamoured with the Grammy for best packaging, the once mighty and proud PJ has certainly changed. And change is fine by me, evolution is inevitable, but not all change is necessary or desirable.
I will always love the music, because the music is pure. But this ugly marketing machine is starting to play on my last nerve.
***************SPOILER ALERT********************
For those younger fans just discovering the band, this ain't your Fathers Pearl Jam!
Actually i think it's funny you keep on referring to self righteousness, as I ultimately think that's why I felt the need to call the band out in the 1st place. Their 1st 10-12.5 years could be viewed as pretty self righteous vs. the last 10-12.5, which is the 180 (360 lol) I referred to.1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park 2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh0 -
I will be the 1st to admit I could be all wrong. However after reading thru the posts, I think the answer lies somewhere in the middle...kind of like painting "a picture forty shades of grey".0
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Pretty sure I was the first to tell you that you were wrong, but if it means that much to you then by all means you can be #1.vzouzal said:I will be the 1st to admit I could be all wrong. However after reading thru the posts, I think the answer lies somewhere in the middle...kind of like painting "a picture forty shades of grey".
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no you were 1st! ,#1, Le Premiere, Numero Uno!0
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They make music when they want and how they want... they play when they want, where they want, and how they want... they work with who they want, when they want, snd how they want... they have their own label... they run their own merch and warehouse... they have their own website... almost everything seems to be run in-house... they don't sell their music to corporate advertising... they make sure their fans are at the front of the line for everything from merch to music to tix
how many countless people have they employed? how much $ have they given to charity and causes?
did I mention tickets are still under $100 for the best band on the planet?
and you are worried if they have some t-shirts in a clearance sale for fans to pick up cheap???
get fucking real
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my2hands said:
They make music when they want and how they want... they play when they want, where they want, and how they want... they work with who they want, when they want, snd how they want... they have their own label... they run their own merch and warehouse... they have their own website... almost everything seems to be run in-house... they don't sell their music to corporate advertising... they make sure their fans are at the front of the line for everything from merch to music to tix
how many countless people have they employed? how much $ have they given to charity and causes?
did I mention tickets are still under $100 for the best band on the planet?
and you are worried if they have some t-shirts in a clearance sale for fans to pick up cheap???
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now that's a good soldier, love the passion!my2hands said:They make music when they want and how they want... they play when they want, where they want, and how they want... they work with who they want, when they want, snd how they want... they have their own label... they run their own merch and warehouse... they have their own website... almost everything seems to be run in-house... they don't sell their music to corporate advertising... they make sure their fans are at the front of the line for everything from merch to music to tix
how many countless people have they employed? how much $ have they given to charity and causes?
did I mention tickets are still under $100 for the best band on the planet?
and you are worried if they have some t-shirts in a clearance sale for fans to pick up cheap???
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OP: Do you work for free? Do you do incredible things for charity, donating millions?
No and no.
Another stupid, troll thread.
No one sells records anymore. They make money off touring and merch. So, of course, there's more merch than ever. So what? Does it affect your personal life? Are you the sixth member of PJ and get to dictate what they do for a living?
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There are also a lot of kool-aid drinkers on this board, that cannot accept ANY criticism or negativity being associated with the band.Blredyellow said:OP: Do you work for free? Do you do incredible things for charity, donating millions?
No and no.
Another stupid, troll thread.
No one sells records anymore. They make money off touring and merch. So, of course, there's more merch than ever. So what? Does it affect your personal life? Are you the sixth member of PJ and get to dictate what they do for a living?
There are smart, good fans on this board. Then there are the other ones.0
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