Layaway section in the shop?

whofeelslikeadrank

fucking shit

2-feign-reluctance

whofeelslikeadrank said:

fucking shit

Haha! Drank man! I love the short and sweet posts!

PJ_Soul

darthvedder said:

PJ_Soul said:

vzouzal said:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=AHEYs0CMe4U

I am aware of what Eddie said at the Grammys. Eddie has since expressed real regret for doing that btw, and not recently. He said he was in a really pissy mood, was nic'ing out for a smoke, and admitted that was pretty rude of him to do that. Especially since he opted to actually be at the Grammys to accept the award.
Did you see the really nice and gracious acceptance speech from the guy who accepted the most recent Grammy?

Eddie has expressed regret? Do you have a link to back that up? It would be interesting to read if that is the case, because all I remember is Pearl Jam 20 and how he said he should have started a fight instead. Not really regretting anything.

There is a video where he says it during some random interview. I know 100% that I've seen it, but I can't remember what interview it was. It was earlier than PJ20. I just randomly landed on it on youtube a couple of years ago. Sorry. Surely someone else reading this who has a better memory has seen it. I remember he specifically talked about how he hadn't been allowed to smoke inside, so that made him pissy, so he figured that had something to do with him acting like that.

badbrains

on2legs said:

badbrains said:

on2legs said:

And I will wait patiently for you to name another major act that charges $80 for front of house seats.

Tool

Sounds like they're in the top 1% of fan friendly ticket prices.

Believe me, I'm just as surprised cuz they do charge a lot for their mercy products. But I believe I actually paid $79.50 back in 09?? At Nokia theater LA.

justam

In my opinion, there would be no reason to buy something from a band's website if you don't currently have money available for it.

Band merchandise is so extremely optional, if a person needs to lay-it-away, he or she probably shouldn't be buying it!!

It doesn't matter to me how much anybody charges for optional merchandise because I have the choice to buy it or not. It bothers me when people can't afford food or shoes or a place to live, but posters and trinkets are not something I worry about.

my2hands

badbrains said:

on2legs said:

And I will wait patiently for you to name another major act that charges $80 for front of house seats.

Tool

Tool tours the eat coast seemingly once a decade and hasn't put out a record in 9 years

Abe Froman

my2hands said:

badbrains said:

on2legs said:

And I will wait patiently for you to name another major act that charges $80 for front of house seats.

Tool

Tool tours the eat coast seemingly once a decade and hasn't put out a record in 9 years

And their show is 1.5 hours. Saw em about 3-4 years ago. Good show but less than two hours long and a pretty standard setlist. Not one song off Opiate and not one "rarity". There is just no comparison vs a PJ live show.

HesCalledDyer

my2hands said:

badbrains said:

on2legs said:

And I will wait patiently for you to name another major act that charges $80 for front of house seats.

Tool

Tool tours the eat coast seemingly once a decade and hasn't put out a record in 9 years

A long outstanding legal battle with their record label is why they haven't put a new record out. It's still going on. From what I've read, they have plenty of music put together to make an album, they just can't legally make it the way they would like to do it.

lolobugg

HughFreakingDillon said:

vzouzal said:

The only reason I think this subject needs dialogue is because the band was so vocal about some of the things they hated, which they now do as well. When someone or something uses their fame to make a point and then without explanation reverses course, don't you feel that deserves calling out?

name one SPECIFIC thing the band spoke out against but now does.

TicketBastard

HesCalledDyer

What other outlet do they have besides TM though? Tickets.com? Same racket, different name. Sure, they spoke out about TM, but the Supreme Court determined that TM wasn't in the wrong despite everyone who's ever bought a ticket to anything knowing differently. They fought for us, they lost. They tried to do it on their own terms and failed. We've all heard the horror stories of the 94-96 tours. Jeff even said himself that it almost killed their career. We all know TM still uses shady business practices (holding back tickets, reselling thru their own service) but at least they disclose all fees now. That's one of the things PJ was fighting for.

lolobugg

HesCalledDyer said:

What other outlet do they have besides TM though? Tickets.com? Same racket, different name. Sure, they spoke out about TM, but the Supreme Court determined that TM wasn't in the wrong despite everyone who's ever bought a ticket to anything knowing differently. They fought for us, they lost. They tried to do it on their own terms and failed. We've all heard the horror stories of the 94-96 tours. Jeff even said himself that it almost killed their career. We all know TM still uses shady business practices (holding back tickets, reselling thru their own service) but at least they disclose all fees now. That's one of the things PJ was fighting for.

I agree. I am a veteran of those tours.... it sucked.
but he asked the question and I answered.

whofeelslikeadrank

2-feign-reluctance said:

whofeelslikeadrank said:

fucking shit

Haha! Drank man! I love the short and sweet posts!

i have a lot of things i would like to post from my own perspective concerning the topic, but i prefer observing from afar. i wait until the post has more than 1-2 comments before i look again. that way, i can really get a laugh. i love pearl jam.

hrd2imgn

Seriously, complaining about duties....like Pearl Jam has any control over this. If you don't like the fees don't buy. Have you shipped anything from the USA to another country lately? The cost is up 3 or 4 hundred percent. They don't set the maila and shipping costs. If you expect them to eat labor costs for the fan you are silly. This is a business get over it.

PJ_Soul

lolobugg said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

vzouzal said:

The only reason I think this subject needs dialogue is because the band was so vocal about some of the things they hated, which they now do as well. When someone or something uses their fame to make a point and then without explanation reverses course, don't you feel that deserves calling out?

name one SPECIFIC thing the band spoke out against but now does.

TicketBastard

Yeah, but that's just a matter of fighting a good fight and losing the war. I feel bad for them about that one, not like they are hypocrites.

lolobugg

PJ_Soul said:

lolobugg said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

vzouzal said:

The only reason I think this subject needs dialogue is because the band was so vocal about some of the things they hated, which they now do as well. When someone or something uses their fame to make a point and then without explanation reverses course, don't you feel that deserves calling out?

name one SPECIFIC thing the band spoke out against but now does.

TicketBastard

Yeah, but that's just a matter of fighting a good fight and losing the war. I feel bad for them about that one, not like they are hypocrites.

Agreed. hard to find places that don't do ticketmaster.. impossible now.
I remember going to the show in New Orleans in 1995.
It was in a remote high school football stadium in the middle some huge park.
I was looking over my shoulder for the vampire Lestat.

FoxyRedLa

lolobugg said:

PJ_Soul said:

lolobugg said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

vzouzal said:

The only reason I think this subject needs dialogue is because the band was so vocal about some of the things they hated, which they now do as well. When someone or something uses their fame to make a point and then without explanation reverses course, don't you feel that deserves calling out?

name one SPECIFIC thing the band spoke out against but now does.

TicketBastard

Yeah, but that's just a matter of fighting a good fight and losing the war. I feel bad for them about that one, not like they are hypocrites.

Agreed. hard to find places that don't do ticketmaster.. impossible now.
I remember going to the show in New Orleans in 1995.
It was in a remote high school football stadium in the middle some huge park.
I was looking over my shoulder for the vampire Lestat.

creepy

HesCalledDyer

FoxyRedLa said:

lolobugg said:

PJ_Soul said:

lolobugg said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

vzouzal said:

The only reason I think this subject needs dialogue is because the band was so vocal about some of the things they hated, which they now do as well. When someone or something uses their fame to make a point and then without explanation reverses course, don't you feel that deserves calling out?

name one SPECIFIC thing the band spoke out against but now does.

TicketBastard

Yeah, but that's just a matter of fighting a good fight and losing the war. I feel bad for them about that one, not like they are hypocrites.

Agreed. hard to find places that don't do ticketmaster.. impossible now.
I remember going to the show in New Orleans in 1995.
It was in a remote high school football stadium in the middle some huge park.
I was looking over my shoulder for the vampire Lestat.

creepy

Wasn't one of the Xmas singles from that show?

lolobugg

HesCalledDyer said:

FoxyRedLa said:

lolobugg said:

PJ_Soul said:

lolobugg said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

vzouzal said:

The only reason I think this subject needs dialogue is because the band was so vocal about some of the things they hated, which they now do as well. When someone or something uses their fame to make a point and then without explanation reverses course, don't you feel that deserves calling out?

name one SPECIFIC thing the band spoke out against but now does.

TicketBastard

Yeah, but that's just a matter of fighting a good fight and losing the war. I feel bad for them about that one, not like they are hypocrites.

Agreed. hard to find places that don't do ticketmaster.. impossible now.
I remember going to the show in New Orleans in 1995.
It was in a remote high school football stadium in the middle some huge park.
I was looking over my shoulder for the vampire Lestat.

creepy

Wasn't one of the Xmas singles from that show?

Yep. good call. "Sonic Reducer" with Joey Ramone.
Very underrated PJ show from the classic period.
It was so fucking hot that day though.
and another thing about touring like they did at out of the way venues...
they didn't have enough water for everyone up front where I was.
they were pulling people out left and right.
I bootlegged the show but all you can hear on some quieter tunes is people yelling for "water!!"

JV130312

it's amazing that this dopey thread went 8 pages...

WhatYouTaughtMe

JV130312 said:

it's amazing that this dopey thread went 8 pages...

Yeah a little. People on here, including myself have probably put more thought into it than needed.