Very Upset with CD-Rs

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  • Evacuation Rules
    Evacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    joebot wrote:
    They sound like shit !
    Both of them. Mix way off. These shows were exhilarating to be at live but wow what a colossal dissapointment to receive these boots and instead of reliving an fantastic concert experience, I am hounded by how off the mixes are.

    I don't think the mixes are that bad actually...the same balance as 2006 for the most part. My problem is with the mastering, which is way over the top.
  • encompassing trip
    encompassing trip Columbia SC Posts: 160
    jimbee wrote:
    ... I guess the only thing that will make the masses happy is to have isolated downloads of each musician to allow us to do our own mixes...
    I absolutely love that idea. Mixing is an art of it's own. Id love to isolate the bass and drum and vocals so that I could play along on guitar. "HIT THE ROAD MCCREADY!!" I'm sure karaoke tech junkies, if they exist, would appreciate it as well. Unmixed studio albums would be really nice. I've always wanted to hear the entire solo at the end of "All or None". allowing people to mix their own tracks could open a whole new art form to casual listeners as well as the die-hards. I bet Kayne West would love to use some samples from PJ :0
    As far as the CD-r issue goes, just mark it up as a lesson learned and not to order anymore official crap from 10C. There is a free trade of unofficial boots. PJ just makes obtaining material it more accessible not necessarily better or higher quality. I can see the misinterpretation of the description, but all-in-all it's a bootleg, not a studio album. Most 10C members want collector items and forget to appreciate the music.
  • ballgame
    ballgame Posts: 201
    I really dont understand what you guys are talking about
    Can someone pick one song from Tampa, Camden I, DC, or Columbia and give me an example of what their issues are?
    I know sometiem Mieks solos are hard to hear but give me a different example of "bad mix".

    from what Ive read most of the problems are from Mikes side. But Mike is using a phase pedal all the time and there arent many mids in it.

    Someone pick a song from the listed shows in my post so I can hear what you're talking about

    There is a reason these are called "bootlegs"


    Also most people here dont even know how to download the MP3s so being able to mix isnt a good idea. People will complain about that too


    Also I think FLAC is the answer. All the FLAC shows I have are great!
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    joebot wrote:
    I like to consider myself an honest, straightforward guy immune to bullshit.
    So i was at MSG 1 and Hartford and bought those boots and.......

    Actually, MSG 1 sounds really good. (Try listening with headphones maybe). MSG2 sounds a little off at times.

    But MSG1 is probably the best of the batch I've heard from this tour.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • sherm
    sherm Seattle, Wa Posts: 708
    Just got my boots, had to start with Mansfield 2 because I was dying to hear Wash again, I think this boot sounds fucking great, but thats just my opinion.
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  • guitardude23
    guitardude23 Posts: 5
    I thought the same thing when I received Hartford this weekend. The mix makes the band sound like it was a terrible show (which by being there seeing Pearl Jam for the 6th time, it was NOT). You can't hear Mike for the first half of disc 1! If the Boston mixes are like this I'll bet they'll be way more complaints...
  • joebot
    joebot Posts: 372
    guitardude23 wrote:
    I thought the same thing when I received Hartford this weekend. The mix makes the band sound like it was a terrible show (which by being there seeing Pearl Jam for the 6th time, it was NOT). You can't hear Mike for the first half of disc 1! If the Boston mixes are like this I'll bet they'll be way more complaints...


    I agree. All I know is I can barely here any lead guitar on MSG 1 and Hartford. I listen to the gorge disc set and they sound great. I'm no audiophile but these 2008 boots are not quite right, there is something off in the mix (or mastering as a previous poster has stated)

    I encourage you guys to compare the mix on the gorges "sad" and either "sad" on MSG1 and Hartford and you will see quite a difference.
  • ballgame
    ballgame Posts: 201
    joebot wrote:
    I agree. All I know is I can barely here any lead guitar on MSG 1 and Hartford. I listen to the gorge disc set and they sound great. I'm no audiophile but these 2008 boots are not quite right, there is something off in the mix (or mastering as a previous poster has stated)

    I encourage you guys to compare the mix on the gorges "sad" and either "sad" on MSG1 and Hartford and you will see quite a difference.


    Thats not the bootleg, thats PJs sound man. I think the whole tour you cant hear the leads.

    Also Mike is using a phaser and it scoops the sound which is also a problem.

    Its not the bootlegs, they are only capturing whats already there

    Ill check out what you mean with both Sad's
  • StateOfLoveBoatCptn.
    StateOfLoveBoatCptn. Posts: 904
    the sound is definitely not right on these. have DC and WPB, and just not the quality of previous years. Oh well, still better than nothing. The way I look at it, it's new PJ for me, and thats a good thing.

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