Very Upset with CD-Rs

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  • freindlyfired
    freindlyfired Posts: 297
    mdg164 wrote:
    While I agree with your point 100%, I don't see the link to conservative politicians. Can you present an example?

    Well, there arent any true conservative politicians anymore so I see your point. Ignore the above post.
  • dustinpardue
    dustinpardue Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,829
    mdg164 wrote:
    The official website says "made to order" not "burn to order". It also says "hard copy".... which implies a pressed CD.



    Good thing every person who bought bootlegs not only uses this message board, but reads EVERY post on it!

    Thanks man, that's the funiest shit I've heard so far today....
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  • LeatherMosquitoMan
    LeatherMosquitoMan Posts: 4,034
    I hope we don't get bootlegs from here on. I'll still get the shows, but i hope we don't have official releases any more. The 10C has bent over backwards for everyone for 17 years. We as a whole, don't deserve it any more. And that saddens me for those of us who love every official recording that's available.

    Remember 2007? We'd kill to have 2007 bootlegs w/the 2008 quality.
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  • Jammin909
    Jammin909 Posts: 888
    I will not buy another Pearl Jam bootleg.

    Misleading marketing and poor sound quality. Don't even try defending the quality as professional. I have hundreds of bootlegs and I have fan recordings that are better than these official '08 boots. We won't even get into the CD-R's.

    Do it right or don't do it at all.
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  • pearljim
    pearljim Posts: 1,312
    ballgame wrote:
    EDIT: Im listening now. This is a louder show that the rest. Not sure what you mean about the mix. Corduroy (2nd song) sounds great
    Can you give me some detail?

    LOL......I just checked my ipod and Corduroy isn't on the WPB setlist, I think we're talking about 2 different shows :) I'm talking about WPB 2008........Oceans has a distinct echo to it about 2 minutes in if I remember correctly....
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  • RestlessSoul92
    RestlessSoul92 Posts: 14
    I have gotten West Palm Beach and Bonnaroo on CD and am very happy with them. I think the sound quality is excellent. I still think the 2000 series is the best to date, but the 2006...and from what Ive heard so far... 2008 shows are not far behind. I dont know how others feel but I never thought the 2003 boots were all that great. It probably has to do with the fact that they were shipped so quick, but I think their quality pales to the other official boots.
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  • pilatesdog
    pilatesdog Posts: 55
    For goodness sake , Pearl Jam offers fans an opportunity to purchase bootlegs of shows and you fucks constantly bitch. Would you rather have some drunken idiot holding up some recording device that you can here his girlfriend trying to sing every song. Be thankful you latched onto a great band who tries to be as fan friendly as possible. Become a Metallica fan!
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  • LeatherMosquitoMan
    LeatherMosquitoMan Posts: 4,034
    pilatesdog wrote:
    For goodness sake , Pearl Jam offers fans an opportunity to purchase bootlegs of shows and you fucks constantly bitch. Would you rather have some drunken idiot holding up some recording device that you can here his girlfriend trying to sing every song. Be thankful you latched onto a great band who tries to be as fan friendly as possible. Become a Metallica fan!

    +1
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  • MegaphoneWhisper
    MegaphoneWhisper Posts: 219
    pearljim wrote:
    LOL......I just checked my ipod and Corduroy isn't on the WPB setlist, I think we're talking about 2 different shows :) I'm talking about WPB 2008........Oceans has a distinct echo to it about 2 minutes in if I remember correctly....

    Yeah. Sounds like he is singing Oceans from the inside a cave.

    But I still ain't gonna bitch.
    Gets up, lights a cigarette he's grown to hate
    Thinking if he can't sleep, how will he ever dream?

    But his heart don't seem to roam......
  • MegaphoneWhisper
    MegaphoneWhisper Posts: 219
    Jammin909 wrote:
    I will not buy another Pearl Jam bootleg.

    Misleading marketing and poor sound quality. Don't even try defending the quality as professional. I have hundreds of bootlegs and I have fan recordings that are better than these official '08 boots. We won't even get into the CD-R's.

    Do it right or don't do it at all.

    You... go ahead and take a stand against the tyranny that is PJ Bootlegs. Yeah! And screw Mufasa or Kufala or whoever the fuck those guys are that are burning them. Screw em all.

    I'm just gonna go turn the volume up on W.M.A.
    Gets up, lights a cigarette he's grown to hate
    Thinking if he can't sleep, how will he ever dream?

    But his heart don't seem to roam......
  • Rjonesrm20
    Rjonesrm20 Posts: 380
    i like Pearl Jam.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    pilatesdog wrote:
    Become a Metallica fan!

    I agree with everything in your post except this. I don't understand this one. Like PJ, Metallica offers official bootlegs. And like Lars, Eddie has the 10c running around demanding fans not tape or share his solo work. So I don't really see a distinction.
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  • eduardo
    eduardo Posts: 151
    preferencies

    2005-2006
    2000
    2008
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    23.11.05 Santiago
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  • eduardo
    eduardo Posts: 151
    on wpb 2008 digital, i like the 1,2,3,4 before beggining unemployable, its matt´s voice?

    also the oceans wrong beggining...is very cleaar
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  • vedderoffdead
    vedderoffdead Posts: 688
    pilatesdog wrote:
    For goodness sake , Pearl Jam offers fans an opportunity to purchase bootlegs of shows and you fucks constantly bitch. Would you rather have some drunken idiot holding up some recording device that you can here his girlfriend trying to sing every song. Be thankful you latched onto a great band who tries to be as fan friendly as possible. Become a Metallica fan!
    That's just it though. We are PURCHASING a product. If that product is of inferior quality we have every right to bitch. What you're saying is that BECAUSE it's Pearl Jam they can pretty much throw whatever out there they want and we're supposed to like it? If they shit on your head would you thank them for the hat? The same basic code applies to any product or service that requires money to be exchanged. It's not like they were handing out free copies after the show. I paid less for EVERY single studio album they've ever made, and they required TONS more cash to produce. Proper mixing, mastering, artwork, a real 'pressed' cd. If there are so many complaints, something must be wrong. The Bonaroo disc is garbage. I can't even listen to most of it. The fact that it says Pearl Jam on the disc doesn't magically make it sound good.
  • RedMosquito02
    RedMosquito02 Posts: 2,560
    SheetsOfClay wrote:
    Ah, the "Pearl Jam can do no wrong" apologists are out in full force in this thread, using the same old tired "love it or leave it, be thankful for what you have" argument that conservative politicians use so often.

    The guy has a legitimate issue about the lack of full disclosure when ordering the CDs. Yes, we all love Pearl Jam. Yes, we are thankful for the official boots. But why is a well-voiced opinion about business practices always met with "shut up", "deal with it", etc.?

    Things don't get better if people don't express opinions.

    Grow up.

    Well said my friend...
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  • Jammin909
    Jammin909 Posts: 888
    vedderoffdead wrote:
    That's just it though. We are PURCHASING a product. If that product is of inferior quality we have every right to bitch. What you're saying is that BECAUSE it's Pearl Jam they can pretty much throw whatever out there they want and we're supposed to like it? If they shit on your head would you thank them for the hat? The same basic code applies to any product or service that requires money to be exchanged. It's not like they were handing out free copies after the show. I paid less for EVERY single studio album they've ever made, and they required TONS more cash to produce. Proper mixing, mastering, artwork, a real 'pressed' cd. If there are so many complaints, something must be wrong. The Bonaroo disc is garbage. I can't even listen to most of it. The fact that it says Pearl Jam on the disc doesn't magically make it sound good.

    Half the people on this board would be ok if Eddie came up on stage, took a shit, and peaced out. They would then go home, log onto the pit, and start 5 different "Thank you Eddie" threads...
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  • mattcozea
    mattcozea Posts: 377
    ballgame wrote:
    Im not sure about that

    CD quality is better than mp3. FLAC is better than MP3. .WAV is better than mp3. The difference is how much space each takes up.
    I dont know about this situation. But quality is not the same
    This is where you're confused.

    MP3 = lossy compression, quality is lost from the original recording
    FLAC = lossless compression, file size is smaller but no quality is lost
    WAV = no compression, exact bit to bit copy of the original

    When pressing or burning a CD, there is no compression involved, the data is an exact copy of the original recording. There is absolutely no difference between the sound quality of a pressed CD and a burned CD as long as they are from the same source.
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  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    Jammin909 wrote:
    I will not buy another Pearl Jam bootleg.

    Misleading marketing and poor sound quality. Don't even try defending the quality as professional. I have hundreds of bootlegs and I have fan recordings that are better than these official '08 boots. We won't even get into the CD-R's.

    Do it right or don't do it at all.

    Then get some equipment and record the shows yourself if you think audience recordings are so f'ing great.

    My opinion is that the 2008 stuff might not be as good as 2000 or 2003, but the band is still releasing hundreds of soundboard boots. What is there to complain about?
  • celebration
    celebration Posts: 318
    getting "very upset" over something this trivial is bad health

    i know of at least 3 other bands that sell live bootlegs and guess what they are not pressed as well.

    to the complainers...get over yourselves!
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