Enhanced Interrogation Techniques and Torturing Some Folks Memos

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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    muskydan said:

    rr165892 said:

    Sleep deprevation,Loud music,uncomfortable positions are 3 of the four items in the report.So that is the torture you guys are worried about? Im sure tickleing with a feather ,and wet willies would also make the list.Lets get real here.We live in a world with evil people and we are not going to contain them by asking nice and offering comfy pillows.
    These fuckers lop off heads and blow up children and we are worried about pouring water on some scum bag.We are too nice.What the hell are we releasing this for anyway,just stupid.

    Ab-Sol-Fuking-lootly…...We are such a joke now to our enemies now. The pusification of American Continues.
    Yeah let's sodomize the whole world, that will show our enemies who's tough.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    muskydan said:

    rr165892 said:

    Sleep deprevation,Loud music,uncomfortable positions are 3 of the four items in the report.So that is the torture you guys are worried about? Im sure tickleing with a feather ,and wet willies would also make the list.Lets get real here.We live in a world with evil people and we are not going to contain them by asking nice and offering comfy pillows.
    These fuckers lop off heads and blow up children and we are worried about pouring water on some scum bag.We are too nice.What the hell are we releasing this for anyway,just stupid.

    Ab-Sol-Fuking-lootly…...We are such a joke now to our enemies now. The pusification of American Continues.
    You sound like a character from a movie th at would go straight to DVD.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    muskydan said:

    rr165892 said:

    Sleep deprevation,Loud music,uncomfortable positions are 3 of the four items in the report.So that is the torture you guys are worried about? Im sure tickleing with a feather ,and wet willies would also make the list.Lets get real here.We live in a world with evil people and we are not going to contain them by asking nice and offering comfy pillows.
    These fuckers lop off heads and blow up children and we are worried about pouring water on some scum bag.We are too nice.What the hell are we releasing this for anyway,just stupid.

    Ab-Sol-Fuking-lootly…...We are such a joke now to our enemies now. The pusification of American Continues.
    Good to see Im not alone here.
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    You liberal do gooders ,do realize that after 911 the great Nancy Pelosi was in fact briefed and signed off on "Enhanced Interogation techniques" For which you are sooooo outraged.Everyone was on board after 911.Do your research JC,you will see.
    Also for those that don't think this ridiculous and careless release is not political ,think again.This is a parting shot by Feinstien before the Rep take over.I hope the are happy that they put many westerners in danger by this stupid partisan bullshit.
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    muskydan said:

    rr165892 said:

    Sleep deprevation,Loud music,uncomfortable positions are 3 of the four items in the report.So that is the torture you guys are worried about? Im sure tickleing with a feather ,and wet willies would also make the list.Lets get real here.We live in a world with evil people and we are not going to contain them by asking nice and offering comfy pillows.
    These fuckers lop off heads and blow up children and we are worried about pouring water on some scum bag.We are too nice.What the hell are we releasing this for anyway,just stupid.

    Ab-Sol-Fuking-lootly…...We are such a joke now to our enemies now. The pusification of American Continues.
    I love how the guy with the MOST bombs/missles in the world is the "real" tough guy. You're right dan, we are a fucken joke.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Last post for the day...this one is dedicated to those that comment about the $40M cost to produce the torture report.

    The US intelligence community’s $53 billion black budget remains largely secret, despite Edward Snowden’s leaks—we now have evidence of at least $480 million paid to other countries to torture detainees. Some of the more egregious torture sites got paid up to four times as much as others.
    The $480 is exclusively "interrogation fees" not counting transportation medical and etc.
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    badbrains said:

    How can anyone defend torture? Black yellow or red, shits wrong. What blows my mind is that we can get info from all over the world. Can read as much as we want on subjects to make our own decessions. And yet we still have people who can see no wrong in what our government is doing. What's that awesome line from that awesome song? "Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what your country's doing TO YOU!"

    Nart ,watch the Movie Unthinkable with Samuel L Jackson.It frames this exact argument perfectly.Its way more complex of an issue then our little conversations on this board.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    rr165892 said:

    You liberal do gooders ,do realize that after 911 the great Nancy Pelosi was in fact briefed and signed off on "Enhanced Interogation techniques" For which you are sooooo outraged.Everyone was on board after 911.Do your research JC,you will see.
    Also for those that don't think this ridiculous and careless release is not political ,think again.This is a parting shot by Feinstien before the Rep take over.I hope the are happy that they put many westerners in danger by this stupid partisan bullshit.

    Nobody likes Nancy Pelosi, and us liberal dogooders NEVER support torture. Parting shot or last chance to get it into daylight? It is absolutely RIDICULOUS to suggest that torturing is OK but a report about it isn't. I have come to seriously respect you but you sound crazy, like Fox News right now. All this Westerners in danger baloney and tough talk.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    rr165892 said:

    badbrains said:

    How can anyone defend torture? Black yellow or red, shits wrong. What blows my mind is that we can get info from all over the world. Can read as much as we want on subjects to make our own decessions. And yet we still have people who can see no wrong in what our government is doing. What's that awesome line from that awesome song? "Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what your country's doing TO YOU!"

    Nart ,watch the Movie Unthinkable with Samuel L Jackson.It frames this exact argument perfectly.Its way more complex of an issue then our little conversations on this board.
    Yeah except that there WEREN'T thousands of lives on the line, in immediate danger.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    If it is ok for us to torture them because theu blow people up, why is it not ok for them to torture us because we blow people up?
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Torture is not ok. But guess what? The United states will always do it. If you think for a millisecond that this report will stop torture, you're simply naive and wrong. And you know what else? Every other country in the world will to it too. Think about how evil we are for threatening to kill someones family member the next time you watch another American get his head cut off by a dull knife because of this ridiculous report.
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    edited December 2014
    rgambs said:

    rr165892 said:

    You liberal do gooders ,do realize that after 911 the great Nancy Pelosi was in fact briefed and signed off on "Enhanced Interogation techniques" For which you are sooooo outraged.Everyone was on board after 911.Do your research JC,you will see.
    Also for those that don't think this ridiculous and careless release is not political ,think again.This is a parting shot by Feinstien before the Rep take over.I hope the are happy that they put many westerners in danger by this stupid partisan bullshit.

    Nobody likes Nancy Pelosi, and us liberal dogooders NEVER support torture. Parting shot or last chance to get it into daylight? It is absolutely RIDICULOUS to suggest that torturing is OK but a report about it isn't. I have come to seriously respect you but you sound crazy, like Fox News right now. All this Westerners in danger baloney and tough talk.
    Gambs,this subject gets me crazy.I feel the rules have changed.Our "wars"are not like Nam or WW2 anymore.Im not for ripping off nipples with pliers or hacking off toes with hedge clippers or shocking someone until their eyes bleed.But we are seriously fooling ourselves if we think that playing softball is going to gather any actionable intelligence.Are the folks we are fighting playing by those rules?And I question whether the tactics used really are torture.Uncomfortable?Sure.Humiliating?Most certainly but again it's not like a razor blade to the genetalia.Thats torture.Watching someone hurt your family is torture.Listening to load music and not sleeping is an inconvenience.Wearing a diaper(great idea in the pit at aPJ concert).Not torture.
    Btw I hate Fox News,I'm a CNN guy(mmmm Erin Burnett).
    The Respect is mutual Gambs.Not agreeing on stuff keeps it fresh and I enjoy the debate.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Last-12-Exit said:

    Torture is not ok. But guess what? The United states will always do it. If you think for a millisecond that this report will stop torture, you're simply naive and wrong. And you know what else? Every other country in the world will to it too. Think about how evil we are for threatening to kill someones family member the next time you watch another American get his head cut off by a dull knife because of this ridiculous report.

    Oh that's just plain ridiculous. If everyone knows we torture why is this report going to make someone cut someone's head off?? It can't be both. People don't join terrorist orgs because of Senate reports, they join because their village, their family, their country is being bombed.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    rgambs said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    Torture is not ok. But guess what? The United states will always do it. If you think for a millisecond that this report will stop torture, you're simply naive and wrong. And you know what else? Every other country in the world will to it too. Think about how evil we are for threatening to kill someones family member the next time you watch another American get his head cut off by a dull knife because of this ridiculous report.

    Oh that's just plain ridiculous. If everyone knows we torture why is this report going to make someone cut someone's head off?? It can't be both. People don't join terrorist orgs because of Senate reports, they join because their village, their family, their country is being bombed.
    Or because of a twisted religious dogma.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    rr165892 said:

    rgambs said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    Torture is not ok. But guess what? The United states will always do it. If you think for a millisecond that this report will stop torture, you're simply naive and wrong. And you know what else? Every other country in the world will to it too. Think about how evil we are for threatening to kill someones family member the next time you watch another American get his head cut off by a dull knife because of this ridiculous report.

    Oh that's just plain ridiculous. If everyone knows we torture why is this report going to make someone cut someone's head off?? It can't be both. People don't join terrorist orgs because of Senate reports, they join because their village, their family, their country is being bombed.
    Or because of a twisted religious dogma.
    What, like an obsession with green paper? Oh wait, that's us. Im no fan of religion, in fact i am a big asshole critic of religion, but at least they believe in something bigger than their own damn selves.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,102
    proof that the united states of america tortured people. innocent people. in our lifetimes.

    well done america. you should be really proud.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,102
    also proof that cheney and the cia coerced the new york times to not run a story about torture and black site prisons.

    free press? free country? beacon of a city on a hill? best country in the world?? it is all bullshit now.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    Bradley manning:

    http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=9246
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    If this shocks you, you didn't have HBO when you were growing up.
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    proof that the united states of america tortured people. innocent people. in our lifetimes.

    well done america. you should be really proud.

    All Muslims are evil based on that logic.

    What percentage of Americans are involved with torture vs. percentage of Muslims involved in jihad?
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    muskydan said:

    rr165892 said:

    Sleep deprevation,Loud music,uncomfortable positions are 3 of the four items in the report.So that is the torture you guys are worried about? Im sure tickleing with a feather ,and wet willies would also make the list.Lets get real here.We live in a world with evil people and we are not going to contain them by asking nice and offering comfy pillows.
    These fuckers lop off heads and blow up children and we are worried about pouring water on some scum bag.We are too nice.What the hell are we releasing this for anyway,just stupid.

    Ab-Sol-Fuking-lootly…...We are such a joke now to our enemies now. The pusification of American Continues.
    Hardly it's the difference between becoming civil or barbarism due to the inability of many to evolve.

    We are animals, and continue to treat each other as such. Rise above.
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