Enhanced Interrogation Techniques and Torturing Some Folks Memos

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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    US foreign policy...those that commit war crimes are patriots, those that report war crimes are traitors (Chelsea Manning).
    Those that commit war crimes are awarded medals and promotions, those that report war crimes are prisoned for life.
    CMTSU

    CIA officers "are patriots, and whatever the report says, if it diminishes their contributions to our country, it is way off base," George W. Bush said Sunday in an interview on CNN.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    What does CMTSU denote? I am curious.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    rgambs said:

    What does CMTSU denote? I am curious.

    Cant make this shit up

  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited December 2014
    From Washpost mocking that this report will put people in danger compared to our actions.

    ABDUL: Ahmed, why won’t you come with me to attack the infidels? You are not outraged that the United States has invaded Afghanistan and Iraq and caused so much suffering in two Muslim countries?

    AHMED: It’s not enough for me to take up arms.

    ABDUL: You are not outraged that in the past three years the great Zionist oppressor has waged air campaigns against two Arab countries — Syria and Libya — and accomplished little but to extend the suffering of our Muslim brothers and sisters?

    AHMED: It’s not enough for me to take up arms.

    ABDUL: You are not outraged that the great Western imperialist power has launched drone strikes with impunity in two other countries — Yemen and Pakistan — killing scores of innocent Muslim families in the process?

    AHMED: It’s not enough for me to take up arms.

    ABDUL: You are not outraged that the infidel superpower has defended Israel as that Zionist pig-state has done nothing but displace, bomb and humiliate our Palestinian brothers and sisters?

    AHMED: It’s not enough for me to take up arms.

    ABDUL: You are not outraged that two successive U.S. presidents, in two flowery speeches, have claimed that the United States wants to bring human rights and democracy to the Middle East, only to tolerate authoritarian crackdowns in Egypt and the Gulf states?

    AHMED: It’s not enough for me to take up arms.

    ABDUL: You are not outraged about all the stories of infidels torturing our Muslim brothers in Abu Ghraib, in Bagram, in Guantanamo Bay? The stories about infidel soldiers desecrating the Koran?

    AHMED: It’s not enough for me to take up arms.

    ABDUL: You are not outraged by the just-released Senate report about CIA torture?

    AHMED: Wait, did you say ‘Senate report’? Okay, I will take up arms now.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    dignin said:

    rgambs said:

    What does CMTSU denote? I am curious.

    Cant make this shit up

    Oh duh. I like it.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    For all us torture and international law geeks. Click on the point and it will display the piece of the Torture report summary

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/national/cia-interrogation-report/key-findings/
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    JC29856 said:

    From Washpost mocking that this report will put people in danger compared to our actions.

    ABDUL: Ahmed, why won’t you come with me to attack the infidels? You are not outraged that the United States has invaded Afghanistan and Iraq and caused so much suffering in two Muslim countries?

    AHMED: It’s not enough for me to take up arms.

    ABDUL: You are not outraged that in the past three years the great Zionist oppressor has waged air campaigns against two Arab countries — Syria and Libya — and accomplished little but to extend the suffering of our Muslim brothers and sisters?

    AHMED: It’s not enough for me to take up arms.

    ABDUL: You are not outraged that the great Western imperialist power has launched drone strikes with impunity in two other countries — Yemen and Pakistan — killing scores of innocent Muslim families in the process?

    AHMED: It’s not enough for me to take up arms.

    ABDUL: You are not outraged that the infidel superpower has defended Israel as that Zionist pig-state has done nothing but displace, bomb and humiliate our Palestinian brothers and sisters?

    AHMED: It’s not enough for me to take up arms.

    ABDUL: You are not outraged that two successive U.S. presidents, in two flowery speeches, have claimed that the United States wants to bring human rights and democracy to the Middle East, only to tolerate authoritarian crackdowns in Egypt and the Gulf states?

    AHMED: It’s not enough for me to take up arms.

    ABDUL: You are not outraged about all the stories of infidels torturing our Muslim brothers in Abu Ghraib, in Bagram, in Guantanamo Bay? The stories about infidel soldiers desecrating the Koran?

    AHMED: It’s not enough for me to take up arms.

    ABDUL: You are not outraged by the just-released Senate report about CIA torture?

    AHMED: Wait, did you say ‘Senate report’? Okay, I will take up arms now.

    I love me some satire! Not the best but it makesa valid point.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    Proctoclysis – rectal rehydration

    Rectal infusion (proctoclysis) was effectively employed as an emergency treatment during the First World War for combat casualties and routinely used for infusion in clinical settings before the development of IV techniques and equipment rendered the technique redundant.(1) In 2005 a now often cited article described an occasion where improvised proctoclysis in a remote setting was effectively used to treat and initially stabilise a casualty in a remote setting, re-igniting discussion on this technique as an emergency treatment in a remote environment. (2)

    Rectal Rehydration can provide a simple, safe and effective means to rehydrate a casualty who is unconscious or nauseous and with less risk of adversely affecting their haemodynamic balance. The technique requires neither sterile fluids, special equipment or specific training (3, 4)

    Proctclysis may be of benefit for those who work in developing countries or rural areas, where there can be little access to hospital care or where sterile cannula, fluids and giving sets are expensive. It could also be useful in mass casualty situations where clinical teams must administer fluid resuscitation despite having insufficient intravenous equipment or nursing staff. (5) The primary aim of proctoclysis in such emergency situations is to provide initial fluid resuscitation in advance of rapid evacuation for further care in a dedicated medical facility. (2)

    Rectal Hydration (proctoclysis) Rectal hydration is an alternative only when other resources are not available. A 22 French nasogastric catheter can be inserted approximately 40 cm into the rectum. The patient can be positioned as for any rectal procedure. Tap water can be used, and the rectal infusion increased from 100 ml to a maximum of 400 ml per hour, unless fluid leakage occurs before the maximum volume is achieved. The majority of patients can successfully tolerate this approach at a volume of 100 to 200 ml per hour.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited December 2014
    Good article about the hypocrisy of leaked classified information. When the cia does it to shape a narrative its okay, anyone else, prosecution.

    http://news.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/12/09/cia-torture-report-live-blog/renderstyle/phone/?nytapp=mobile_web&nytmobile=0#c-i-a-leaked-classified-information-to-support-program
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Speaking of hypocrisy

    "No records to indicate CIA held personnel accountable for detention of individuals CIA itself determined were wrongfully detained"
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Rectal hydration. Freedom at it's finest!
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    rgambs said:

    Rectal hydration. Freedom at it's finest!

    Now I know where my past feelings of being safe from terrorists stemmed from! Must of been those rectal feedings going on somewhere.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    The whole "freedom isn't free" line cracks me up.

    If it's not free can't be freedom now can it.


    USA USA USA USA.



    We're such good sheeple.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Glenn Greenwald along with all the others that hate America are having an early Christmas with this report.

    https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/12/09/live-coverage-release-senate-torture-report#Feinstein1
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    rr165892 said:

    Sleep deprevation,Loud music,uncomfortable positions are 3 of the four items in the report.So that is the torture you guys are worried about? Im sure tickleing with a feather ,and wet willies would also make the list.Lets get real here.We live in a world with evil people and we are not going to contain them by asking nice and offering comfy pillows.
    These fuckers lop off heads and blow up children and we are worried about pouring water on some scum bag.We are too nice.What the hell are we releasing this for anyway,just stupid.

    Ironic. So who are the Evil Ones??
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    "Detainees forced to stand on broken legs, or go 180 hours in a row without sleep. A prison so cold, one suspect essentially froze to death"
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    26 held and tortured were found to be "Mistaken identities"
    How much to we pay these guys to protect us and our freedoms?
    CMTSU
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    JC29856 said:

    "Detainees forced to stand on broken legs, or go 180 hours in a row without sleep. A prison so cold, one suspect essentially froze to death"

    But freedoms not free so let's torture them evil doers.

    Oh what a fine Christian nation we are.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Obstruction of justice
    "CIA destroyed videos of the torture"
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited December 2014
    For partiality sake, here are the cia excuses


    https://www.cia.gov/news-information/press-releases-statements/2014-press-releases-statements/cia-fact-sheet-ssci-study-on-detention-interrogation-program.html

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