Another death, police not indicted
backseatLover12
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Because discussing it in the M. Brown thread is not fair.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30317807
Eric Garner: No charges in NY chokehold case
A grand jury has not charged a New York City police officer over the death of Eric Garner, who died after being placed in a chokehold by the officer.
The case sparked national attention after a video of Officer Daniel Pantaleo arresting Garner on 17 July became public.
Garner, 43, who had asthma, was heard on the video shouting "I can't breathe!"
He was being arrested for allegedly selling untaxed cigarettes.
Following the decision, family lawyer Jonathon Moore said he was "astonished based on the evidence of the video tape, and the medical examiner, that this grand jury at this time wouldn't indict for anything".
Garner's daughter, Erica, told the BBC the grand jury "are not even human, [and] there is no humanity".
More at link above.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30317807
Eric Garner: No charges in NY chokehold case
A grand jury has not charged a New York City police officer over the death of Eric Garner, who died after being placed in a chokehold by the officer.
The case sparked national attention after a video of Officer Daniel Pantaleo arresting Garner on 17 July became public.
Garner, 43, who had asthma, was heard on the video shouting "I can't breathe!"
He was being arrested for allegedly selling untaxed cigarettes.
Following the decision, family lawyer Jonathon Moore said he was "astonished based on the evidence of the video tape, and the medical examiner, that this grand jury at this time wouldn't indict for anything".
Garner's daughter, Erica, told the BBC the grand jury "are not even human, [and] there is no humanity".
More at link above.
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Btw, no reason for this guy to be dead. At all.
Another factor may be that the outside agitators can't afford to keep at it in a new city, but I don't know much about that.
As a restraint in a situation loosing control it's not really super effectic, a standing rear-naked choke leaves you vulnerable to face scraping, eye-gouging, and anyone with a little grappling training would drop and turn their hips and send you flying. The main reason it is outside SOP is probably because of the significant risk for fatality.
(But as I've said elsewhere, this doesn't mean I think all cops are bad.)
Check the comments out
"It's a good day for cops....."
Clearly there is a consensus that resisting arrest is grounds for lethal force among law enforcement.
none- they can't agree that the bulb is broken..
our system is really, really, fucked up.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
(But still keep in mind that there are some damn fine cops out there.)
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Day after coroner ruled homicide police harassed guy video it
Following the announcement Wednesday that a Staten Island grand jury declined to indict the NYPD officer who placed Eric Garner in a fatal chokehold, Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.) told CNN's Wolf Blitzer that Garner would not have died if he hadn't been so "obese."
"If he had not had asthma and a heart condition and was so obese, almost definitely he would not have died from this,” King said. "The police had no reason to know he was in serious condition."
The city's medical examiner ruled Garner's death a homicide and attributed it to the use of a chokehold by officer Daniel Pantaleo. Garner had repeatedly exclaimed "I can't breathe" during the arrest, as seen in the video recorded by bystanders. Nevertheless, King questioned whether Garner had pleaded for help, telling Blitzer, "The fact of the matter is, if you can’t breathe, you can’t talk." He added: "I have no doubt if he was a 350-pound white guy, he would have been treated the same."
Haven't read more than a bit about this today, and just now saw some of the current protests in NYC. I hope that fires, property damage, and personal violence are at a minimum (if happening at all).
http://gizmodo.com/what-is-the-lrad-sound-cannon-5860592
"I was just minding my own business. Every time you see me you want to mess with me. I'm tired of it. It stops today!" Garner swatted their arms away, saying, "Don't touch me, please." "I can't breathe" 11 times, then limp, then dead, handcuff the corpse. 7 minutes 8 cops no cpr, 4 minutes with ems present no cpr. Then loaded on a stretcher to be pronounced dead at hospital.
Nope nothing wrong there!
Fuck cameras, law suit payouts and settlements from PD pensions.
Fuck grand juries for police involved incidents, special panel of prosecutors.
Officers found guilty go to prison with other murders, no special treatment.
Police killings will stop yesterday.
I do agree it is not a good outcome and senseless waste of life.
Critics of the department have described Mr. Garner’s death as among the most egregious results of a “broken windows” approach to crime that targets low-level offenses in largely minority neighborhoods. But officials have been quick to describe Mr. Garner’s death as an isolated incident. “This is one particular interaction between two people,” said Stephen Davis, the chief spokesman for the department. “You can’t judge the whole program on that.”
The reason for these stops is a policing approach called “broken windows,” first articulated by scholars James Q. Wilson and George L. Kelling in a 1982 Atlantic Monthly essay and later adopted by the NYPD in 1993. Broken windows prioritizes cracking down on minor offenses on the theory that doing so can preempt serious crime. Or, to use the metaphor of the idea, actual broken windows create the appearance of disorder, which creates actual disorder as criminals take advantage of the inviting environment. Rather than wait for the serious crimes to begin, police should “repair the windows”—focus on petty crime like loitering, and you’ll stop the worse crime from taking hold.
It’s an elegant concept, but there’s little evidence it works. “Taken together,” notes a 2006 study from the University of Chicago, “the evidence from New York City and from the five-city social experiment provides no support for a simple first-order disorder-crime relationship as hypothesized by Wilson and Kelling nor for the proposition that broken windows policing is the optimal use of scarce law enforcement resources.” Yes, the massive New York crime decline of the 1990s coincided with broken windows policing, but chances are it had more to do with a reversion to the mean (“what goes up, must come down, and what goes up the most, tends to come down the most”) than any new approach.
If broken windows were just a waste of resources, it wouldn’t be a huge concern. But as a policy, broken windows has also had the effect of terrorizing black and Latino New Yorkers.