Audioholics: pimp out all your audio shit

davidos

I have the Audio Technica ATH-M50s... not the X version... they sound great... feel a little bulky on my head though...

Also just bought a pair of the Sennheiser Momentums - over the ear - have not had a chance to fire them up yet...

Looking forward to the HD boot releases this week...

Horse2345

Is $179 good price for momentums?

Horse2345

pjradio said:

Senn HD-598's

On for $113 for another 22 hours

pjradio

Horse2345 said:

pjradio said:

Senn HD-598's

On for $113 for another 22 hours

Where?? My Brother wants a pair for Christmas

Horse2345

http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0042A8CW2/ref=gbsl_img_m-2_9502_e49f5170?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&pf_rd_m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-2&pf_rd_r=1MHYZTMA7JRQGV6R7FQT&pf_rd_i=6054205011&pf_rd_p=1988779502

mrussel1

Good talk on the cans, but I find it interesting that no one is talking about the DAC and/or the receiver that is driving them. Remember, you are only as strong as the weakest point in the chain. If you have these plugged into your onboard soundcard from your computer, you are most definitely not maximizing your experience. If you are streaming to a receiver or DAC, then the quality of either and both of those components are critical.

My rig..
stream to Squeezebox Touch DAC -> Pioneer elite SC receiver -> Definitive Technology 8060 Supertowers. No headphones. I like the whole room filled up:
Alternate channels
Two Pioneer Elite A35 amps driving the zones(discontinued but buy one if you see it on Ebay.. best amp for the $)
Kitchen - Bowers and Wilkins 20i bookshelves
Den - Def Tech BP8B with BicAmerica PL-200 12 inch sub
Garage - old school Boston Acoustics HD10s (bought in 91... first real speakers)
Deck - Def Tech all weathers

KV4053

mrussel1 said:

Good talk on the cans, but I find it interesting that no one is talking about the DAC and/or the receiver that is driving them. Remember, you are only as strong as the weakest point in the chain. If you have these plugged into your onboard soundcard from your computer, you are most definitely not maximizing your experience. If you are streaming to a receiver or DAC, then the quality of either and both of those components are critical.

My rig..
stream to Squeezebox Touch DAC -> Pioneer elite SC receiver -> Definitive Technology 8060 Supertowers. No headphones. I like the whole room filled up:
Alternate channels
Two Pioneer Elite A35 amps driving the zones(discontinued but buy one if you see it on Ebay.. best amp for the $)
Kitchen - Bowers and Wilkins 20i bookshelves
Den - Def Tech BP8B with BicAmerica PL-200 12 inch sub
Garage - old school Boston Acoustics HD10s (bought in 91... first real speakers)
Deck - Def Tech all weathers

Do you think you're losing much quality by streaming? I use an apple airport express and know there is some loss

mrussel1

There should not be any loss of quality while streaming. A wifi signal is plenty wide to carry 24 bit. The only limitation I have seen is that my DAC can't handle 96khz cleanly, so I downsample those to 24 bit, 48khz. Everything I have read is that human ear can't hear that difference and I haven't been able to tell.

As far as Airport Express, I don't have one so I don't know a ton about it. I do know that people have asked whether the express or itunes is downsampling when streaming. So really there are two questions:
1. Can Airport natively handle 24/96 without downsampling? Is there really any literature on it?
2. What exact DAC does the express have in it and what is the quality?

I know exactly what DAC is in my squeezebox. And I know why it's priced at $400 (which is cheap for a good DAC). It's hard to see how a quality DAC gets into a $100 apple product. Seems like a reach.

my2hands

Serious question here folks... is all of this audiophile craze overhyped? Do I really need a pro studio setup in my living room? Is the sound difference worth all of the $? Can the human ear tell the difference on most of this stuff? Why does it need to be so complicated? I feel like I need a degree just to understand and hook up a "legit" sound system

I love music so is all of this worth it?

Horse2345

my2hands said:

Serious question here folks... is all of this audiophile craze overhyped? Do I really need a pro studio setup in my living room? Is the sound difference worth all of the $? Can the human ear tell the difference on most of this stuff? Why does it need to be so complicated? I feel like I need a degree just to understand and hook up a "legit" sound system

I love music so is all of this worth it?

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/05/pono-neil-young-24bit-192khz-review

All the ladies will love the title of this one.

my2hands

Horse2345 said:

my2hands said:

Serious question here folks... is all of this audiophile craze overhyped? Do I really need a pro studio setup in my living room? Is the sound difference worth all of the $? Can the human ear tell the difference on most of this stuff? Why does it need to be so complicated? I feel like I need a degree just to understand and hook up a "legit" sound system

I love music so is all of this worth it?

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/05/pono-neil-young-24bit-192khz-review

All the ladies will love the title of this one.

Very interesting

callen

Used to use closed headphones but with compromised hearing just spin vinyl on SL1200MK2 thru big Onkyo and out some JBL Towers with a Yamaha sub grounding it all. Would though love to feed HD digital into amp

Horse2345

my2hands said:

Serious question here folks... is all of this audiophile craze overhyped? Do I really need a pro studio setup in my living room? Is the sound difference worth all of the $? Can the human ear tell the difference on most of this stuff? Why does it need to be so complicated? I feel like I need a degree just to understand and hook up a "legit" sound system

I love music so is all of this worth it?

http://www.cnet.com/news/sound-bite-despite-ponos-promise-experts-pan-hd-audio/

my2hands

Horse2345 said:

my2hands said:

Serious question here folks... is all of this audiophile craze overhyped? Do I really need a pro studio setup in my living room? Is the sound difference worth all of the $? Can the human ear tell the difference on most of this stuff? Why does it need to be so complicated? I feel like I need a degree just to understand and hook up a "legit" sound system

I love music so is all of this worth it?

http://www.cnet.com/news/sound-bite-despite-ponos-promise-experts-pan-hd-audio/

Great read... interesting stuff... thanks!

I think i have seen enough to not buy into the hype

Viva la cd! lol

KV4053

my2hands said:

Horse2345 said:

my2hands said:

Serious question here folks... is all of this audiophile craze overhyped? Do I really need a pro studio setup in my living room? Is the sound difference worth all of the $? Can the human ear tell the difference on most of this stuff? Why does it need to be so complicated? I feel like I need a degree just to understand and hook up a "legit" sound system

I love music so is all of this worth it?

http://www.cnet.com/news/sound-bite-despite-ponos-promise-experts-pan-hd-audio/

Great read... interesting stuff... thanks!

I think i have seen enough to not buy into the hype

Viva la cd! lol

I, too, read enough to not buy into the hype.

Then I listened.

I said it before, but it may be worth mentioning again.... You can read all about sex, but you ain't gonna know how it feels until you do it.

2-feign-reluctance

KV4053 said:

my2hands said:

Horse2345 said:

my2hands said:

Serious question here folks... is all of this audiophile craze overhyped? Do I really need a pro studio setup in my living room? Is the sound difference worth all of the $? Can the human ear tell the difference on most of this stuff? Why does it need to be so complicated? I feel like I need a degree just to understand and hook up a "legit" sound system

I love music so is all of this worth it?

http://www.cnet.com/news/sound-bite-despite-ponos-promise-experts-pan-hd-audio/

Great read... interesting stuff... thanks!

I think i have seen enough to not buy into the hype

Viva la cd! lol

I, too, read enough to not buy into the hype.

Then I listened.

I said it before, but it may be worth mentioning again.... You can read all about sex, but you ain't gonna know how it feels until you do it.

Haha! I recall you said this once before.

TinAnt

KV4053 said:

my2hands said:

Horse2345 said:

my2hands said:

Serious question here folks... is all of this audiophile craze overhyped? Do I really need a pro studio setup in my living room? Is the sound difference worth all of the $? Can the human ear tell the difference on most of this stuff? Why does it need to be so complicated? I feel like I need a degree just to understand and hook up a "legit" sound system

I love music so is all of this worth it?

http://www.cnet.com/news/sound-bite-despite-ponos-promise-experts-pan-hd-audio/

Great read... interesting stuff... thanks!

I think i have seen enough to not buy into the hype

Viva la cd! lol

I, too, read enough to not buy into the hype.

Then I listened.

I said it before, but it may be worth mentioning again.... You can read all about sex, but you ain't gonna know how it feels until you do it.

Placebo, your brain is trying to convince you of something that isn't there.

2-feign-reluctance

So regular sex is no different than HD sex?

ldent42

I definitely think there's a limit. It's all about personal preference and budget. I have a mix of flac and mp3 and no, I don't really notice a difference. I don't have any HD Flac. I use my phone or my computer to play them. I haven't had speakers for a few months and while I've got great Grado earbuds I can't use them right now. So I have been stuck listening to really crappy quality speakers and there's definitely a huge difference. Personally, I just want a reasonable 2 speaker 1 subwoofer set to connect to my computer and a nice pair of not too heavy cans that don't "leak" and I'm not going to pay over $200 for either of those things, and I will be happy.

BinFrog

http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/4780722#Comment_4780722