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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,332
    rr165892 said:

    That is a fair response.How do you feel about Hammas on the other side Rod?
    sorry i did not see this when i was posting the other posts.

    i don't particularly care for them. i see them as necessary. nobody else is defending the palestinians. sometimes they hurt their cause, like when they do things like what happened today. but without them, israel would have more of the palestinian land than they already have. plus they give israel an excuse to keep the oppression going. why else would israel allow them to exist?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,332
    yosi said:

    Yes.
    i am glad we agree.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    List of Israelis on CNN today
    Dersh​owitz​ -twice
    ​Michael ​Oren.
    ​Ron ​Prosor
    ​Mark ​Regev
    ​Nir ​Barakat
    M. Rosenfeld
    Palestinians​:​ 0
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,332
    yosi said:

    Really? You're denying that segments of the Palestinian population celebrate terror attacks? This has been common knowledge for so long that it's not even worth mentioning anymore. It happens every time there is a terror attack. It happens. Deal with it.
    if i were palestinian and just now recovering from the drubbing israel rained down on gaza, i would probably be celebrating too. we have seen ample evidence that certain segments of the population on both sides celebrate when things like this happen to either side. is it wrong? yes. but is it as wrong as the murders themselves? the entire situation over there is wrong. all of this is a symptom of the situation.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,332
    rr165892 said:

    True,But still wrong and not justified.Murder for whatever reason is Murder
    agreed. dropping bombs in conflict is murder too. just less personal than today's attacks.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Understanding Israel's Increasing Grip on Jerusal…: http://youtu.be/jy3qq7sSH9I
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,332
    yosi said:

    They're not segregated in Israel. In Israel Jews and Arabs share the same roads. They're segregated in the occupied West Bank, which isn't part of Israel. I know distinctions are annoying for you to deal with, but in the interest of honest conversation perhaps we could acknowledge reality.

    And I think it's kind of disgusting to refer to murder as "petty attacks."
    ISRAEL’S SEGREGATED ROADS

    One of the most blatant examples of the segregation imposed by Israel on Palestinians is the system of roads built in the West Bank exclusively for Israeli Jewish settlers. West Bank Palestinians are denied the right to travel on these segregated roads. The separate road system for Palestinians is often unpaved and in some cases is little more than a trail, rather than an actual road.

    Meanwhile, a modern freeway system designed to link illegal Jewish settlements to each other and to Israel proper has been built for Jewish Israelis. Vehicles with Palestinian licenses are completely prohibited from traveling on approximately 105 kilometers of West Bank roads, according to the Israeli human rights organization B’Tselem. Palestinians can travel on the remaining 180 kilometers of Israeli-built roads in the West Bank only if they can obtain a special permit or if they travel in an ambulance. The Israeli road system crisscrosses the West Bank in a way that seems designed to prevent the formation of a contiguous and viable Palestinian state.

    Within Israel itself, Palestinians from the West Bank or Gaza are prohibited from driving on Israeli roads. Israeli citizens also cannot bring Palestinians into Israel through passages designated for Israelis only.

    Sources:
    “Separate and Unequal,” a report by Human Rights Watch.
    An Israeli in Palestine, by Jeff Halper.
    "Restriction of Movement," by B'Tselem: The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the OccupiedTerritories. http://www.btselem.org/freedom_of_movement/checkpoints_and_forbidden_roads

    http://www.seamac.org/SegregatedRoads.htm

    is that still the policy?

    i mistyped about segregated roads, but i have seen the above information posted on other sites.

    by "petty" i was referring to the tit for tat attacks like this. one palestinian kills 2 israelis, a gang of israelis kill a few palestinians and it escalates. the whole thing is so immature to me. petty may have been a poor choice of words, but at this point these attacks are strictly hate crimes and revenge/retribution crimes.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,332
    JC29856 said:

    List of Israelis on CNN today
    Dersh​owitz​ -twice
    ​Michael ​Oren.
    ​Ron ​Prosor
    ​Mark ​Regev
    ​Nir ​Barakat
    M. Rosenfeld
    Palestinians​:​ 0

    of course. this is something palestinians did to israelis. of course cnn is going to go with all israelis on the tele today. when israel was blowing up gaza, there were a lot of palestinians on there.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    of course. this is something palestinians did to israelis. of course cnn is going to go with all israelis on the tele today. when israel was blowing up gaza, there were a lot of palestinians on there.
    Names?
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,096
    edited November 2014
    JC29856 said:

    List of Israelis on CNN today
    Dersh​owitz​ -twice
    ​Michael ​Oren.
    ​Ron ​Prosor
    ​Mark ​Regev
    ​Nir ​Barakat
    M. Rosenfeld
    Palestinians​:​ 0

    Dershowitz? Alan Dershowitz?
    Not an Israeli.
    He's American born in Brooklyn, NY
    He's Jewish
    Doesn't make him Israeli


  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,332

    Dershowitz? Alan Dershowitz?
    Not an Israeli.
    He's American born in Brooklyn, NY
    He's Jewish
    Doesn't make him Israeli


    dershowitz is a huge israeli apologist. he is pro-israeli policies.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,332
    JC29856 said:

    Names?
    i don't remember the names. it was 5 months ago. all i know is people were pissed off because palestinians "winning the media war."
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,096

    dershowitz is a huge israeli apologist. he is pro-israeli policies.
    That's all very true
    But none of that makes him an actual Israeli.
    He was listed in a previous post as an Israeli.
    Being a Jew and being pro-Israel doesn't make you an Israeli.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,332
    if people are so offended about people handing out candy today, let's examine this.

    95% of israelis supported israel's summer massacre in gaza.

    95%.

    plus, i remember byrnzie posted about how israelis chanted in the streets "in gaza there's no studying. no children are left there. ole ole ole. i hate all the arabs. gaza is a graveyard, gaza is a graveyard."

    so yes it goes both ways.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    UN: Israeli forces injured 454 Palestinians 10/28-11/10, most in East J'lem; shot & blinded child on 11/13, fractured child's skull on 11/14
  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    edited November 2014
    JC29856 said:
    Well having read the article it shouldn't be about who gets the most Publicity...People are still being Murdered and the focus should be on how to stop that.
    Post edited by i_lov_it on
  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    rr165892 said:

    Dancing in the streets,handing out candy and celebrating.Thats what Hammas was doing to celebrate the murder of the Rabbis.(CBS evening news).Fucking sickening!!!!! I guess terrorist attacks on innocent people are something to celebrate.

    No different then Israelis sitting atop the hill and watching the bombs drop on gaza, oh and all while enjoying dinner. My how "quickly" we forget.
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    yosi said:

    Really? You're denying that segments of the Palestinian population celebrate terror attacks? This has been common knowledge for so long that it's not even worth mentioning anymore. It happens every time there is a terror attack. It happens. Deal with it.
    No different then the Israelis singing "death to ALL Arabs!" During the gaza onslaught, no? BOTH sides cheer, don't sit here and make 1 side angels while the other is satan. Amazing, over 2000+ dead civilians in gaza and NOT A SINGLE PEEP from you. 4 rabbis get murdered and look who pops his head in in anger. :-?
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,402
    badbrains said:

    No different then the Israelis singing "death to ALL Arabs!" During the gaza onslaught, no? BOTH sides cheer, don't sit here and make 1 side angels while the other is satan. Amazing, over 2000+ dead civilians in gaza and NOT A SINGLE PEEP from you. 4 rabbis get murdered and look who pops his head in in anger. :-?
    Good point. Not showing very much credibility there.
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    badbrains said:

    No different then Israelis sitting atop the hill and watching the bombs drop on gaza, oh and all while enjoying dinner. My how "quickly" we forget.
    Nart,Equally as appalling and disgusting human behavior.If it was 4 Imams murdered by 2 Hasidic Jews ,I would be equally outraged at the act.No one side here can claim righteousness.

    Rod,I concur that during the summer conflict there was numerous horrible acts by they Israelis,again equally as disturbing.But it was all wrapped up into the war.This latest act was just murder(no matter the motivation).No justification for attacks against civilians from either side can be tolerated.
  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    The whole situation is at a Point now that the aggressor or who's right or who's wrong has been lost and we're just at the point where both sides are retaliating...Who would be the first side to lay down there weapons and say enough is enough no more killing I wonder.
  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6181360

    Now let the retaliation begin.
  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    "In one of Israel's first acts of retaliation, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered the demolitions of the homes of the attackers."

    So pity that there maybe Innocent family members living in those homes.
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    i_lov_it said:

    "In one of Israel's first acts of retaliation, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered the demolitions of the homes of the attackers."

    So pity that there maybe Innocent family members living in those homes.

    Unfortunately, this is just the start to another "cam-PAIN"
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