"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
PBM: I like many of the principles in Ishmael, but feel that it is too one-sided. I agree, that developmentally, humans had a crucial point in history where we chose we would dominate nature, but I alos agree that that gave us many, many new benefits. It also gave us, many, many new problems. I belive everything grows and stagnation is not "natural"- this means there is no golden age to return too, no "perfect world". The fundamental rule in organic life is that things are born simple and become more complex and are completly changing all of the time. No movement=death.
Im also a big fan of "spiral dynamics" which describes the development of the human moral outlook/conciousness. one of the core principles is that development is healthy and what comes next needs to build on what has come before- its like a bridge- you cant knock down one level without taking what is above it out as well. The reason we have philosophy and higher ed is because the industrial revolution created the economy and lifestyle so the average man could be plato, et6c. etc.
Yes...the 9 year anniversary is coming up next Thursday...5 YIELD tunes.
PBM
"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
PBM: I like many of the principles in Ishmael, but feel that it is too one-sided. I agree, that developmentally, humans had a crucial point in history where we chose we would dominate nature, but I alos agree that that gave us many, many new benefits. It also gave us, many, many new problems. I belive everything grows and stagnation is not "natural"- this means there is no golden age to return too, no "perfect world". The fundamental rule in organic life is that things are born simple and become more complex and are completly changing all of the time. No movement=death.
Im also a big fan of "spiral dynamics" which describes the development of the human moral outlook/conciousness. one of the core principles is that development is healthy and what comes next needs to build on what has come before- its like a bridge- you cant knock down one level without taking what is above it out as well. The reason we have philosophy and higher ed is because the industrial revolution created the economy and lifestyle so the average man could be plato, et6c. etc.
my 2 cents.....
There's a lot to talk about here.
I think MFC covers the not moving part. Perhaps MFC and it's message of escape could mean an escape from stagnation and moving on to explore new ways of thinking about the world. Obviously Ed has his meaning, but if you look in the context of YIELD's message, it could definitely fit.
PBM: I like many of the principles in Ishmael, but feel that it is too one-sided. I agree, that developmentally, humans had a crucial point in history where we chose we would dominate nature, but I alos agree that that gave us many, many new benefits. It also gave us, many, many new problems. I belive everything grows and stagnation is not "natural"- this means there is no golden age to return too, no "perfect world". The fundamental rule in organic life is that things are born simple and become more complex and are completly changing all of the time. No movement=death.
I think we can evolve, but we shouldn't have to abandon our principles, our ethics, our morals. It seems that greed and an egotistical attitude are byproducts of our evolution.
Why is "our way" (that of man) assumed to be the correct way?
PBM
"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
I think we can evolve, but we shouldn't have to abandon our principles, our ethics, our morals. It seems that greed and an egotistical attitude are byproducts of our evolution.
Why is "our way" (that of man) assumed to be the correct way?
PBM
right, its not! Im thinking of honoring the value of nature, but holding onto what we have learned. I look at it like this: human beings identified with only themselves way back (cavemen), then were bound to the tribe, then the nation (nationalism-1800's-1900's) and now finally, thank god the entire planet. we are finally opening up our perspective that "all is one", and we are not seperate from anything. but, way back when we just werent there yet in terms of our outlooks- we couldnt conceive of anything outside of ourselves.
we couldnt conceive of anything outside of ourselves.
Sadly, this is still prevalent today...don't you think?
PBM
"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
Our venture to the YIELD thread grew out of the Starbucks/iTunes Thread.
I wonder when the new album will be sold by "The New AT&T"?
PBM
"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
It won't, but a PJ song will be on their next commercial instead of Oasis or whoever it is now.
It's a fine line they're walking there...don't you think?
PBM
"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
Remember that episode of Entourage where they want to brand the Vinnie Chase name? I imagine that's the kind of meeting Pearl Jam got a few years ago with Clive.
PBM
"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
Not since '95. I said goodbye to the third worst city in America some time ago.
PBM
"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
How excited are you at the suggestion that Jack Irons--one who could be called PJ's best drummer--will be performing in a trio with Ed & Flea @ the Bridge School Benefit in October?
Jack Irons makes songs from YIELD and No Code a strong possibility.
(Sorry this isn't as deep as the current topic of discussion, but it's EXCITING to me!)
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Memphis 1994 New Orleans 1995 Fort Lauderdale 1996 Atlanta & Birmingham 1998 New Orleans 2000 Tampa 2003 Kissimmee 2004 New York City (x 2) 2008 East Troy (x 2) 2011 Chicago & New Orleans 2013 Hampton, Raleigh, Boston 2016 Baltimore2020 Louisville 2022 Philadelphia & Baltimore 2024
How excited are you at the suggestion that Jack Irons--one who could be called PJ's best drummer--will be performing in a trio with Ed & Flea @ the Bridge School Benefit in October?
Jack Irons makes songs from YIELD and No Code a strong possibility.
Maybe Ed will stop referring to YIELD as "the 5th record". Bring on that glorious MJI sound.
PBM
"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
How excited are you at the suggestion that Jack Irons--one who could be called PJ's best drummer--will be performing in a trio with Ed & Flea @ the Bridge School Benefit in October?
Jack Irons makes songs from YIELD and No Code a strong possibility.
(Sorry this isn't as deep as the current topic of discussion, but it's EXCITING to me!)
All Those Yesterdays is beautiful! I wised they'd play it live more.
www.RLMcDaniel.com
1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest 2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1 2022: Nashville 2023: Ft. Worth II
Seriously...who around here is going to make it official?
PBM
"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
That Minn. June 30th '98 version ranks high for me (thanks Wally).
"Use your mind to escape"
I like the lyric change...it definitely adds a new element to the song.
PBM
"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
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Which year? '00 or '03?
PBM
Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
Wait, was it Knoxville 98?
Im also a big fan of "spiral dynamics" which describes the development of the human moral outlook/conciousness. one of the core principles is that development is healthy and what comes next needs to build on what has come before- its like a bridge- you cant knock down one level without taking what is above it out as well. The reason we have philosophy and higher ed is because the industrial revolution created the economy and lifestyle so the average man could be plato, et6c. etc.
my 2 cents.....
Yes...the 9 year anniversary is coming up next Thursday...5 YIELD tunes.
PBM
Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
u have the lolla boot? is it in the cave? i need to get that....
6697 would never say "tunes."
*tear*
There's a lot to talk about here.
I think MFC covers the not moving part. Perhaps MFC and it's message of escape could mean an escape from stagnation and moving on to explore new ways of thinking about the world. Obviously Ed has his meaning, but if you look in the context of YIELD's message, it could definitely fit.
I think we can evolve, but we shouldn't have to abandon our principles, our ethics, our morals. It seems that greed and an egotistical attitude are byproducts of our evolution.
Why is "our way" (that of man) assumed to be the correct way?
PBM
Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
I specifically use that term now because of her.
PBM
Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
Awesome. I love ripping people when they're on other continents.
right, its not! Im thinking of honoring the value of nature, but holding onto what we have learned. I look at it like this: human beings identified with only themselves way back (cavemen), then were bound to the tribe, then the nation (nationalism-1800's-1900's) and now finally, thank god the entire planet. we are finally opening up our perspective that "all is one", and we are not seperate from anything. but, way back when we just werent there yet in terms of our outlooks- we couldnt conceive of anything outside of ourselves.
Sadly, this is still prevalent today...don't you think?
PBM
Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
Is this about me?
No...?
Then I've lost interest.
I wonder when the new album will be sold by "The New AT&T"?
PBM
Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
It won't, but a PJ song will be on their next commercial instead of Oasis or whoever it is now.
It's a fine line they're walking there...don't you think?
PBM
Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
At least they turned down Viagra.
Poor Elvis. :(
Sigh...those were the days.
Remember that episode of Entourage where they want to brand the Vinnie Chase name? I imagine that's the kind of meeting Pearl Jam got a few years ago with Clive.
PBM
Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
PBM, do you live in Michigan?
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
Not since '95. I said goodbye to the third worst city in America some time ago.
PBM
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Which ones are 1 and 2? Flint and East Lansing?
Ouch! :(
PBM
Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
Hey I'm just going off of word of mouth.
How excited are you at the suggestion that Jack Irons--one who could be called PJ's best drummer--will be performing in a trio with Ed & Flea @ the Bridge School Benefit in October?
Jack Irons makes songs from YIELD and No Code a strong possibility.
(Sorry this isn't as deep as the current topic of discussion, but it's EXCITING to me!)
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New Orleans 1995
Fort Lauderdale 1996
Atlanta & Birmingham 1998
New Orleans 2000
Tampa 2003
Kissimmee 2004
New York City (x 2) 2008
East Troy (x 2) 2011
Chicago & New Orleans 2013
Hampton, Raleigh, Boston 2016
Baltimore 2020
Louisville 2022
Philadelphia & Baltimore 2024
Maybe Ed will stop referring to YIELD as "the 5th record". Bring on that glorious MJI sound.
PBM
Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
Is this official though?
All Those Yesterdays is beautiful! I wised they'd play it live more.
1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
2022: Nashville
2023: Ft. Worth II
Seriously...who around here is going to make it official?
PBM
Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
ZING!!!!!!!!!
That Minn. June 30th '98 version ranks high for me (thanks Wally).
"Use your mind to escape"
I like the lyric change...it definitely adds a new element to the song.
PBM
Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org