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agreed ! and BB said I should leave to other countries and meet people,well I'm sure and am positive there are great people on every corner of the globe in fact I have met some here in the US but I am not the one escaping to another country infact my family line goes back to the 1700's...anyway I am not here to play by another countries rules I have not asked for citizenship in any other country and if I did I would not expect them to change things just for me.muskydan said:h
One of my faves too GF. It's obvious many on here have a inner hate for this country, and not just its policies. Extremists that wish death to America are amongst us…a lot closer than you think.Godfather. said:heads up where ? and some have thier heads in the sand...... I'll end this with an old stand by....anybody not happy in America may leave to the country of thier choice,hurry don't miss the boat and take a friend with you and have the time of your lives ! I wish you well.
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HAHHAHHA .....says the followersrgambs said:
"geeze this place has a fucked up habbit of defending the bad guy"Godfather. said:
HAHAHHAHAHHAHAAH THIS AUTTA BE GOOD !....a fake biggot cop and in another post Christians teaching hate ...this topic and some of the posts in it are a joke I can't believe some of you are defending ISIS this way and talking shit about this country that offers you freedom and safety that the the middle east can not....why the fuck do you guys think your family and friends came here before you ? and Christians teach hate ? ...try this..go to a christian church for services and report back.......geeze this place has a fucked up habbit of defending the bad guy....now I'll leave for now to finish my coffee and read some FOXNEWS HAHHAHHAHHAHHAHA GET YOU SOME OF THAT !badbrains said:
Wow, how did I miss this post? I'm gonna think of a great response for you. Enjoy your day "playing" cops and robbers in your "head" fake cop. Oh wait, fake bigot cop, that's more like it.muskydan said:
Listen, nobody gives a shit about your PERSONAL PM's for your all important validation other than yourself. Why do you always have to make stuff about YOU on here? Wait, don't answer that please... Not everyone agrees with you which is OK...it's called being an American. And not everyone is going to be a part of your group circle jerk, which is VERY OK.badbrains said:
Let's be real, you don't give 2 shits about Muslims and don't pretend you do. I chop you down because you come on here spreading fear and hate. Listen, you may not think you do but I have a shitload of pms and emails from people who would argue differently with you. And I know, you don't give a fuck. And that's fine to.BS44325 said:I do not insult all muslims. I am troubled by the ones who practice the most extreme form of Islam and slaughter the moderate muslims in their midst.
Right now ISIS is merging with Boko Haram in Libya and together they are moving on Tunisia.
http://www.ansamed.info/ansamed/en/news/sections/generalnews/2015/02/18/libya-al-thani-terrorists-towards-tunisian-border_9032af27-2287-4243-92d7-c4a8189ca569.html
There are many muslims there who I feel should be protected from the slaughter. It is I who wants to actively defend the people of your faith while you prefer to just chop me down.
So you mention fear and hate.... Well I maybe going out on a limb here but I am sure many people on here felt a lot of fear and hate when They saw 21
Egyptian Coptic Christians get their heads chopped off like I was. Along with the numerous other savage behavior towards infidels by these fundamentalist extreme Muslims.
Maybe someday you will will stop taking stuff so personally and act like a reasonable Adult. Atleast let other people express THEIR opinion's about issues without getting your panties in a bunch. Accusing someone of hating ALL Muslims is way out of bounds on here and you know it, well atleast I hope you do. Look, nobody ain't solving shit on here and nobody is right. Listen to Juana's Addiction's, Aight no Right.... Time for sleep so I can be all fresh for my FAKE Job.
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Says the one who defends America, King of the Bad Guys.
Open your damn eyes!
We overthrow democratically elected governments every decade or so, we bomb children with radioactive bombs that ensure the children's children will suffer, we hold money to be more important than foreign lives, and people like you have the balls to accuse those who care about war crimes of defending the "bad guy"????
Head in ass much?
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Guys, stay in the country! It's healthy to disagree, and it's productive to express your disagreements. There's usually something cool or interesting that comes out of those debates that I never would've thought of without them.badbrains said:
If anyone needs to leave the country and see the real world, I would argue it's you. You need to travel out of your borders and meet people from other countries in their lands. Maybe then you'll see why so many people have different opinions of the world then you. You could only get so much out of tv.Godfather. said:heads up where ? and some have thier heads in the sand...... I'll end this with an old stand by....anybody not happy in America may leave to the country of thier choice,hurry don't miss the boat and take a friend with you and have the time of your lives ! I wish you well.
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Those of us not happy with Americas actions would like to change them, as opposed to those hiding behind cowardly patriotic sentiments that absolve them of the guilt they should feel. It is precisely our LOVE of America that keeps us here, putting up with folks like you who wear blinders.Godfather. said:heads up where ? and some have thier heads in the sand...... I'll end this with an old stand by....anybody not happy in America may leave to the country of thier choice,hurry don't miss the boat and take a friend with you and have the time of your lives ! I wish you well.
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I've heard that these devils actually has supporters sending them money from other countries, it's unbelievable.0
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Kids are still too young for action. They are educated on the greatness of both Canadian and American military tradition and the nobility of service. If they choose to serve I will gladly support them. They recognize that they are blessed to be born into the world they are in and that their freedom is completely owed to the sacrifices of those who came before them and to those who serve today.badbrains said:I would ask BS if he has any kids or family to sign up for the action over there, but already know he's to scared to answer ANY questions I have for him. Didn't know a kid can scare someone with questions.
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Also...for those who hate America please don't come to Canada. We are pretty proud of our heritage and western culture up here. To us self-hatred just comes across as being whiny and defeatist.benjs said:
Guys, stay in the country! It's healthy to disagree, and it's productive to express your disagreements. There's usually something cool or interesting that comes out of those debates that I never would've thought of without them.badbrains said:
If anyone needs to leave the country and see the real world, I would argue it's you. You need to travel out of your borders and meet people from other countries in their lands. Maybe then you'll see why so many people have different opinions of the world then you. You could only get so much out of tv.Godfather. said:heads up where ? and some have thier heads in the sand...... I'll end this with an old stand by....anybody not happy in America may leave to the country of thier choice,hurry don't miss the boat and take a friend with you and have the time of your lives ! I wish you well.
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I'm all good with self-hatred, just as long as self-hatred isn't the goal: it's got to be the context for another discussion. For example, to bring up the mistreatment of the Aboriginals in Canada over the years alone serves no purpose, but comparing it to the treatment of indigenous Palestinians in modern Israel adds a bit of purpose. Or Harper-hatred (not sure if you'd include that), Harper who implied it was offensive to hide one's identity while joining the Canadian family - in response to a court ruling in favour a young Muslim woman who wished to keep her niqab during the citizenship oath. I speak up against that because it shows racism is alive and well, and must be cut down by caring humans, and not high-level government workers (and most of the time, seems you're either one or the other). Self-hatred is only defeatist if it's a destination rather than part of a process. By the way, not sure if we had discussed this in the past, but I'm Canadian.BS44325 said:
Also...for those who hate America please don't come to Canada. We are pretty proud of our heritage and western culture up here. To us self-hatred just comes across as being whiny and defeatist.benjs said:
Guys, stay in the country! It's healthy to disagree, and it's productive to express your disagreements. There's usually something cool or interesting that comes out of those debates that I never would've thought of without them.badbrains said:
If anyone needs to leave the country and see the real world, I would argue it's you. You need to travel out of your borders and meet people from other countries in their lands. Maybe then you'll see why so many people have different opinions of the world then you. You could only get so much out of tv.Godfather. said:heads up where ? and some have thier heads in the sand...... I'll end this with an old stand by....anybody not happy in America may leave to the country of thier choice,hurry don't miss the boat and take a friend with you and have the time of your lives ! I wish you well.
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Also, I think pride is one of the more dangerous emotions out there. It just leads to an inflated ego, which makes people forget the worth of others. And when someone has no worth in your life, you can do anything to them without much concern, all the while feeling elevated and justified in your own actions. Seems groupthink amplifies the devastating effects of this - maybe that's why patriotism and demonization of others sound so nice together in the same sentence. Think along the lines of "we will destroy the monsters who threaten the lives and liberties found in this great land of ours".Post edited by benjs on'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Harper hatred is not self-hatred. That is just being at odds with leadership which is fair. I also do not think it is racist to ask someone to remove a niqab at a citizenship oath ceremony. I could be wrong but I don't believe the governement is asking someone to remove a hijab? A niqab is a different entity altogether and our country should send a message upon entry that while we are a tolerant society there are certain religious practices that are at odds with our tolerance. Our country has a strong history of defending women's rights and asking someone to reveal themself sends a message to the woman that she is not a prisoner and it sends a message that the laws of our land trump any religious law be it sharia or otherwise. Remember, no person technically has rights in our country until those rights are conferred upon them in the process of the ceremony. Once the ceremony is over that woman may wear a niqab forever if she chooses but understand whose laws must be followed. If someone is unhappy with this choice then they can choose to become a citizen of another country. No one is forcing someone to come here.0
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Asking a person to remove a niqab during citizenship ceremonial purposes offers acknowledgement between both parties that at times differences may have to be put aside to follow a rule that everyone else does.
In our court of law process it has been an uphill battle to make law that any one accused of a crime must be able to see the face of said accuser (at least once during the trial). Same can be said for the complainant.
This directly reflects the "at times differences may have to be put aside to follow a rule that everyone else does" - our court of law system. Open and transparent.
Aside from that, niqab wearing or any covering of the face for religious reasons should and must be tolerated.
Any religion, race, creed, sex is always welcome to pursue citizenship to our country provided they can follow our common rule of tolerance to a point, not a tipping point.
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No GF not making excuses just understand ramifications from our actions.Godfather. said:
probably very true but the train members will make excuses for them and blame Americas anyway...muskydan said:
I think is way too late GD. They are amongst us now as we all know. I think it's only a matter of time of when and where it happens again here.Godfather. said:
I don't but I believe if we don't the evil tht may be happening in another country could find it's way to our country likr the 9/11 attacks did, believe me I think the whole thing sucks ass.callen said:
I'm confused GF. So why do you support intervening if you feel they aren't grateful?Godfather. said:well then if they don't want to pay the price then they should not ask..that's about as simple as it gets.
and besides it always turns around to bite us in the ass anyway..."they're killing babies and women"
or after the job is complete in thier eyes they protest and tell us to leave and start burning flags and going back to the islam thing that we are infedels, war has many costs and many ugly truths so maybe these countries should be careful what they ask for.
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And why is US responsible for acting? What's our real interest?
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No GF not making excuses just understand ramifications from our actions.Godfather. said:
probably very true but the train members will make excuses for them and blame Americas anyway...muskydan said:
I think is way too late GD. They are amongst us now as we all know. I think it's only a matter of time of when and where it happens again here.Godfather. said:
I don't but I believe if we don't the evil tht may be happening in another country could find it's way to our country likr the 9/11 attacks did, believe me I think the whole thing sucks ass.callen said:
I'm confused GF. So why do you support intervening if you feel they aren't grateful?Godfather. said:well then if they don't want to pay the price then they should not ask..that's about as simple as it gets.
and besides it always turns around to bite us in the ass anyway..."they're killing babies and women"
or after the job is complete in thier eyes they protest and tell us to leave and start burning flags and going back to the islam thing that we are infedels, war has many costs and many ugly truths so maybe these countries should be careful what they ask for.
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And why is US responsible for acting? What's our real interest?
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Wrong. If you love your country it's your duty to question it. Blindly following your country into yet another conflict is not loving it. Spending billions for Halliburton is not loving Americans that have to pay for it.muskydan said:h
One of my faves too GF. It's obvious many on here have a inner hate for this country, and not just its policies. Extremists that wish death to America are amongst us…a lot closer than you think.Godfather. said:heads up where ? and some have thier heads in the sand...... I'll end this with an old stand by....anybody not happy in America may leave to the country of thier choice,hurry don't miss the boat and take a friend with you and have the time of your lives ! I wish you well.
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BS44325 said:
Harper hatred is not self-hatred. That is just being at odds with leadership which is fair. I also do not think it is racist to ask someone to remove a niqab at a citizenship oath ceremony. I could be wrong but I don't believe the governement is asking someone to remove a hijab? A niqab is a different entity altogether and our country should send a message upon entry that while we are a tolerant society there are certain religious practices that are at odds with our tolerance. Our country has a strong history of defending women's rights and asking someone to reveal themself sends a message to the woman that she is not a prisoner and it sends a message that the laws of our land trump any religious law be it sharia or otherwise. Remember, no person technically has rights in our country until those rights are conferred upon them in the process of the ceremony. Once the ceremony is over that woman may wear a niqab forever if she chooses but understand whose laws must be followed. If someone is unhappy with this choice then they can choose to become a citizen of another country. No one is forcing someone to come here.
Agreed 100%.
I know this is another matter completely but stripping everything back to mere basics, removing the layers put upon us by the various ways of life, religions, cultures etc and as a simple human shell - why the hell would anyone wish to hide their face and live their days behind a barrier. Absolutely baffles me.0 -
Why do any of us care how people want to live their lives? Why can't we all let them be? Who are we to tell anyone how or what to live like. Shit, I went to skid row yesterday iN LA, why not help those people in our own country before we dictate how others live.pdalowsky said:BS44325 said:Harper hatred is not self-hatred. That is just being at odds with leadership which is fair. I also do not think it is racist to ask someone to remove a niqab at a citizenship oath ceremony. I could be wrong but I don't believe the governement is asking someone to remove a hijab? A niqab is a different entity altogether and our country should send a message upon entry that while we are a tolerant society there are certain religious practices that are at odds with our tolerance. Our country has a strong history of defending women's rights and asking someone to reveal themself sends a message to the woman that she is not a prisoner and it sends a message that the laws of our land trump any religious law be it sharia or otherwise. Remember, no person technically has rights in our country until those rights are conferred upon them in the process of the ceremony. Once the ceremony is over that woman may wear a niqab forever if she chooses but understand whose laws must be followed. If someone is unhappy with this choice then they can choose to become a citizen of another country. No one is forcing someone to come here.
Agreed 100%.
I know this is another matter completely but stripping everything back to mere basics, removing the layers put upon us by the various ways of life, religions, cultures etc and as a simple human shell - why the hell would anyone wish to hide their face and live their days behind a barrier. Absolutely baffles me.0 -
.....wow I agree (don't ask me how that happened :-) but.....I think that sometimes it is a humanitarien issue as far as removing dictators that have evil agendas like hitler, musilline and that guy and his sons that got wiped out in Iraq...can't remember his name but he and his sons were evil bastards.badbrains said:
Why do any of us care how people want to live their lives? Why can't we all let them be? Who are we to tell anyone how or what to live like. Shit, I went to skid row yesterday iN LA, why not help those people in our own country before we dictate how others live.pdalowsky said:BS44325 said:Harper hatred is not self-hatred. That is just being at odds with leadership which is fair. I also do not think it is racist to ask someone to remove a niqab at a citizenship oath ceremony. I could be wrong but I don't believe the governement is asking someone to remove a hijab? A niqab is a different entity altogether and our country should send a message upon entry that while we are a tolerant society there are certain religious practices that are at odds with our tolerance. Our country has a strong history of defending women's rights and asking someone to reveal themself sends a message to the woman that she is not a prisoner and it sends a message that the laws of our land trump any religious law be it sharia or otherwise. Remember, no person technically has rights in our country until those rights are conferred upon them in the process of the ceremony. Once the ceremony is over that woman may wear a niqab forever if she chooses but understand whose laws must be followed. If someone is unhappy with this choice then they can choose to become a citizen of another country. No one is forcing someone to come here.
Agreed 100%.
I know this is another matter completely but stripping everything back to mere basics, removing the layers put upon us by the various ways of life, religions, cultures etc and as a simple human shell - why the hell would anyone wish to hide their face and live their days behind a barrier. Absolutely baffles me.
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dude, I don't care, and I do let them be, and I don't tell them how to live - I don't interfere in the lives of others at all, each to their own....but it doesn't mean I understand hiding your identity. Its no big deal, it just baffles me a little.badbrains said:
Why do any of us care how people want to live their lives? Why can't we all let them be? Who are we to tell anyone how or what to live like. Shit, I went to skid row yesterday iN LA, why not help those people in our own country before we dictate how others live.pdalowsky said:BS44325 said:Harper hatred is not self-hatred. That is just being at odds with leadership which is fair. I also do not think it is racist to ask someone to remove a niqab at a citizenship oath ceremony. I could be wrong but I don't believe the governement is asking someone to remove a hijab? A niqab is a different entity altogether and our country should send a message upon entry that while we are a tolerant society there are certain religious practices that are at odds with our tolerance. Our country has a strong history of defending women's rights and asking someone to reveal themself sends a message to the woman that she is not a prisoner and it sends a message that the laws of our land trump any religious law be it sharia or otherwise. Remember, no person technically has rights in our country until those rights are conferred upon them in the process of the ceremony. Once the ceremony is over that woman may wear a niqab forever if she chooses but understand whose laws must be followed. If someone is unhappy with this choice then they can choose to become a citizen of another country. No one is forcing someone to come here.
Agreed 100%.
I know this is another matter completely but stripping everything back to mere basics, removing the layers put upon us by the various ways of life, religions, cultures etc and as a simple human shell - why the hell would anyone wish to hide their face and live their days behind a barrier. Absolutely baffles me.0 -
Ah that old chest nut.Godfather. said:heads up where ? and some have thier heads in the sand...... I'll end this with an old stand by....anybody not happy in America may leave to the country of thier choice,hurry don't miss the boat and take a friend with you and have the time of your lives ! I wish you well.
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GF I see you have evolved from saying all Muslims should leave America - now it's everyone who disagrees with your perspective, freedom of speech indeed.0 -
Nope, there are just people that have different opinions to your own. You think America is the greatest country in the world, I don't - I would certainly never wish death upon anybody, and certainly not to an entire nation.muskydan said:h
One of my faves too GF. It's obvious many on here have a inner hate for this country, and not just its policies. Extremists that wish death to America are amongst us…a lot closer than you think.Godfather. said:heads up where ? and some have thier heads in the sand...... I'll end this with an old stand by....anybody not happy in America may leave to the country of thier choice,hurry don't miss the boat and take a friend with you and have the time of your lives ! I wish you well.
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Yes, I do think America is the greatest country in the world….There is plenty of room on the moon pal…And there are plenty of people I wish death upon. I guess that's our difference in opinion..GOD BLESS THE USA!!!!Moonpig said:
Nope, there are just people that have different opinions to your own. You think America is the greatest country in the world, I don't - I would certainly never wish death upon anybody, and certainly not to an entire nation.muskydan said:h
One of my faves too GF. It's obvious many on here have a inner hate for this country, and not just its policies. Extremists that wish death to America are amongst us…a lot closer than you think.Godfather. said:heads up where ? and some have thier heads in the sand...... I'll end this with an old stand by....anybody not happy in America may leave to the country of thier choice,hurry don't miss the boat and take a friend with you and have the time of your lives ! I wish you well.
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Why the moon?muskydan said:
Yes, I do think America is the greatest country in the world….There is plenty of room on the moon pal…And there are plenty of people I wish death upon. I guess that's our difference in opinion..GOD BLESS THE USA!!!!Moonpig said:
Nope, there are just people that have different opinions to your own. You think America is the greatest country in the world, I don't - I would certainly never wish death upon anybody, and certainly not to an entire nation.muskydan said:h
One of my faves too GF. It's obvious many on here have a inner hate for this country, and not just its policies. Extremists that wish death to America are amongst us…a lot closer than you think.Godfather. said:heads up where ? and some have thier heads in the sand...... I'll end this with an old stand by....anybody not happy in America may leave to the country of thier choice,hurry don't miss the boat and take a friend with you and have the time of your lives ! I wish you well.
Godfather.
And what exactly is America greatest in the world for? genuine question, what are the categories where America comes out?0
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