Say again? Who is responsible for withdrawing US troops from Iraq? BS, I turn my lonely eyes to you.
U.S. President George W. Bush hailed the passing of the agreement between the two countries. "The Security Agreement addresses our presence, activities, and withdrawal from Iraq", Bush said. He continued that "two years ago, this day seemed unlikely - but the success of the surge and the courage of the Iraqi people set the conditions for these two agreements to be negotiated and approved by the Iraqi parliament".[39]
Read Article 24 professor Chickenhawk. Who signed the agreement? Care to reassign your blame for the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq? I didn't think so.
You don't know where to start because you have not actually read the study or evaluated it from a scientific perspective. If you were in a thesis defense right now the committee would tear your postulations apart. Let's take your very last point for instance: Did you know the number of defects rose again in 2011 to 37? So as you say it was normal for the numbers to fall in 2010 because the US wasn't bombing anymore but then the number climbed again in 2011 at the height of the pacification? How do you explain that climb in defects again? There was very little bombing that year? Hmmm. Your theory is unsupported by the data. Again...do yourself a favour and do not post a scientific study where you have only read the abstract as it just makes you look silly. If you want to make a greater point about how war is evil then just make the damn point...you won't get an argument here.
Edit - probably good to mention as well that the birth defects they diagnosed were also primarily folate dependent. That means adequate access to folic acid during pregnancy might have prevented some of these defects. Sanctions and war probably reduced access so if not the bombs you still get to blame the US.
I have to ask - what is your motivation in the debate over birth defects? To clear the use of radioactive material in the battlefield? To keep up appearances for the good guys? so messed to choose this topic as one to take a stand on. Gambs is right - your observations on birth defects in Iraq are no different than climate change deniers who pick apart evidence with bias, ask for clear causal evidence that is virtually impossible to provide, even tho all common sense tells us it's happening, then leave the discussion saying 'yes, pollution is bad, but correlation doesn't prove causation'. unless you don't believe that heavy metals cause birth defects, miscarriages, cancer, etc, the discussion is moot. Science says that it does. Do US munitions contain heavy metals? Yes. So what are we debating here? The sexiness of birth defects? like wtf? the U.S. wont provide data on locations of DU use, something we'd need to know to prove causation, right? They've been covering up anecdotal evidence and sewering causal studies, with the help of the WHO, for decades now. They are worried about the implications of allowing science to follow through. Which means they KNOW it causes these effects; they would rather have a better bomb and not have to worry about legality, than worry about unborn children and innocents in the 'theatre'. This isn't a courtroom, nor am I obligated to peer review medical studies to form my opinion. That is evidence enough for me.
And why throw in the chemical weapons comment without context? Who are you blaming and how does it affect our decision to wage war? Your assertions about an Isis / Shia war are, as always, short sighted fear mongering - pushing for humanitarian war instead of, you know, humanitarianism. Which again begs the question - what is your real motivation here? What is your end game? Perpetual occupation, or a subservient client regime like the good ol' days?
First...no issue with the birth defect issue really. War has consequences. I nor anyone has ever denied that. It is a complete straw man argument. Gambs had to link to a study which for the most part is based on poor science just to make the point. Does that mean there wasn't in an increase in defects? Of course not but Gambs could have said war sucks...the link to the study was needless frills.
2...I am not a climate change denier but I do debate the science with respect to the degree of change. Anyone who posts a scientific study on any topic better be prepared to debate that study otherwise don't post it. For me to debate it is not to deny defects occur but to actually question the paper. Does the paper have validity? Does it actually measure what it claims to measure?
3...My motivation was always and only to tackle the problems of today. To salvage whatever good is left from an absolute clusterfuck of a situation. People want to constantly dwell on the past here without care for the future. What I have said is that view is shortsighted and will result in further horrors. I have no more end game. My point view has lost. It is over. Enjoy the world you have been advocating for.
You do realize humans are very predictable and to predict the future we merely need to check out the past.
Find it fascinating reading your positions and justification.
And climate change. Wow. The evidence is everywhere. Fuck look at glaciers and co2 levels and you should be set but alas no.
So you believe in god? Will he save us? Does he have a plan? Seriously trying to understand your motivations.
Believe in God? Not sure where that's coming from. Do you read my posts?
Climate change. Again I believe in it but question the degree. For example we just found out that NASA has revised their data and the ice caps are not in retreat.
Does this mean climate change isn't occuring? No but the question is to what degree. Again I ask...do you read my posts?
Lastly...yes we must learn from our past...past actions and inactions. All decisions have consequences. The world will now being subjected to the consequences for the lack of action you all propose. Own it.
Sorry, GWB and people like you own it. See previous post.
BS,I read that revised article also.(After the previous big NASA story)I agree it's not if there is climate change(of course there is),but at what rate,and how much is natural cycle compared to human assisted.Each side of the debate likes to trumpet their own theories.It gets very messy when it comes to sorting out the bias an bullshit.
BS,I read that revised article also.(After the previous big NASA story)I agree it's not if there is climate change(of course there is),but at what rate,and how much is natural cycle compared to human assisted.Each side of the debate likes to trumpet their own theories.It gets very messy when it comes to sorting out the bias an bullshit.
I'm also in the "correlation doesn't prove causality" camp when it comes to global warming, and it doesn't preclude me from living as though it does (since it's the best fit we have), and I don't feel it should preclude scientists from seeking alternative potential contributing factors to global warming.
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BS,I read that revised article also.(After the previous big NASA story)I agree it's not if there is climate change(of course there is),but at what rate,and how much is natural cycle compared to human assisted.Each side of the debate likes to trumpet their own theories.It gets very messy when it comes to sorting out the bias an bullshit.
I'm also in the "correlation doesn't prove causality" camp when it comes to global warming, and it doesn't preclude me from living as though it does (since it's the best fit we have), and I don't feel it should preclude scientists from seeking alternative potential contributing factors to global warming.
RR and Benjs...this is just so rational...it is beyond me why these thoughts get someone labeled as a "science denier".
Say again? Who is responsible for withdrawing US troops from Iraq? BS, I turn my lonely eyes to you.
U.S. President George W. Bush hailed the passing of the agreement between the two countries. "The Security Agreement addresses our presence, activities, and withdrawal from Iraq", Bush said. He continued that "two years ago, this day seemed unlikely - but the success of the surge and the courage of the Iraqi people set the conditions for these two agreements to be negotiated and approved by the Iraqi parliament".[39]
Read Article 24 professor Chickenhawk. Who signed the agreement? Care to reassign your blame for the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq? I didn't think so.
The person who gave the order to withdraw the troops is responsible for the withdrawal. I think that's pretty conclusive but thanks for the media matters and wikipedia links anyways.
Say again? Who is responsible for withdrawing US troops from Iraq? BS, I turn my lonely eyes to you.
U.S. President George W. Bush hailed the passing of the agreement between the two countries. "The Security Agreement addresses our presence, activities, and withdrawal from Iraq", Bush said. He continued that "two years ago, this day seemed unlikely - but the success of the surge and the courage of the Iraqi people set the conditions for these two agreements to be negotiated and approved by the Iraqi parliament".[39]
Read Article 24 professor Chickenhawk. Who signed the agreement? Care to reassign your blame for the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq? I didn't think so.
The person who gave the order to withdraw the troops is responsible for the withdrawal. I think that's pretty conclusive but thanks for the media matters and wikipedia links anyways.
Say again? Who is responsible for withdrawing US troops from Iraq? BS, I turn my lonely eyes to you.
U.S. President George W. Bush hailed the passing of the agreement between the two countries. "The Security Agreement addresses our presence, activities, and withdrawal from Iraq", Bush said. He continued that "two years ago, this day seemed unlikely - but the success of the surge and the courage of the Iraqi people set the conditions for these two agreements to be negotiated and approved by the Iraqi parliament".[39]
Read Article 24 professor Chickenhawk. Who signed the agreement? Care to reassign your blame for the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq? I didn't think so.
The person who gave the order to withdraw the troops is responsible for the withdrawal. I think that's pretty conclusive but thanks for the media matters and wikipedia links anyways.
Thanks for the revisionist history.
Thanks for turning your back on an Iraqi populace who took a chance on freedom. Whether you were for the war or not your country did invade and you owed it to the average Iraqi to stick it out for the long haul. Instead you left them to the slaughter.
Say again? Who is responsible for withdrawing US troops from Iraq? BS, I turn my lonely eyes to you.
U.S. President George W. Bush hailed the passing of the agreement between the two countries. "The Security Agreement addresses our presence, activities, and withdrawal from Iraq", Bush said. He continued that "two years ago, this day seemed unlikely - but the success of the surge and the courage of the Iraqi people set the conditions for these two agreements to be negotiated and approved by the Iraqi parliament".[39]
Read Article 24 professor Chickenhawk. Who signed the agreement? Care to reassign your blame for the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq? I didn't think so.
The person who gave the order to withdraw the troops is responsible for the withdrawal. I think that's pretty conclusive but thanks for the media matters and wikipedia links anyways.
Thanks for the revisionist history.
Thanks for turning your back on an Iraqi populace who took a chance on freedom. Whether you were for the war or not your country did invade and you owed it to the average Iraqi to stick it out for the long haul. Instead you left them to the slaughter.
Yea sure and the Iraqis would welcome us as the great liberators like the French did in Paris. What was Canada's contribution to the coalition of the willing again? I'm sure you're advocating and lobbying your parliament to save the Iraqis, seeing that you care for the average Iraqi so deeply.
In case you missed it, GWB agreed to withdraw US forces from Iraq and the Iraqis wanted us out. So much for the breath of freedom and national sovereignty you're always prattling on about it. The Iraqis won't even fight for themselves and the US staying in the middle of that shit storm is utter stupidity.
Please let me know when Canada steps up with $2.3 trillion and 130,000 ground troops.
Say again? Who is responsible for withdrawing US troops from Iraq? BS, I turn my lonely eyes to you.
U.S. President George W. Bush hailed the passing of the agreement between the two countries. "The Security Agreement addresses our presence, activities, and withdrawal from Iraq", Bush said. He continued that "two years ago, this day seemed unlikely - but the success of the surge and the courage of the Iraqi people set the conditions for these two agreements to be negotiated and approved by the Iraqi parliament".[39]
Read Article 24 professor Chickenhawk. Who signed the agreement? Care to reassign your blame for the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq? I didn't think so.
The person who gave the order to withdraw the troops is responsible for the withdrawal. I think that's pretty conclusive but thanks for the media matters and wikipedia links anyways.
Thanks for the revisionist history.
Thanks for turning your back on an Iraqi populace who took a chance on freedom. Whether you were for the war or not your country did invade and you owed it to the average Iraqi to stick it out for the long haul. Instead you left them to the slaughter.
Yea sure and the Iraqis would welcome us as the great liberators like the French did in Paris. What was Canada's contribution to the coalition of the willing again? I'm sure you're advocating and lobbying your parliament to save the Iraqis, seeing that you care for the average Iraqi so deeply.
In case you missed it, GWB agreed to withdraw US forces from Iraq and the Iraqis wanted us out. So much for the breath of freedom and national sovereignty you're always prattling on about it. The Iraqis won't even fight for themselves and the US staying in the middle of that shit storm is utter stupidity.
Please let me know when Canada steps up with $2.3 trillion and 130,000 ground troops.
Say again? Who is responsible for withdrawing US troops from Iraq? BS, I turn my lonely eyes to you.
U.S. President George W. Bush hailed the passing of the agreement between the two countries. "The Security Agreement addresses our presence, activities, and withdrawal from Iraq", Bush said. He continued that "two years ago, this day seemed unlikely - but the success of the surge and the courage of the Iraqi people set the conditions for these two agreements to be negotiated and approved by the Iraqi parliament".[39]
Read Article 24 professor Chickenhawk. Who signed the agreement? Care to reassign your blame for the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq? I didn't think so.
The person who gave the order to withdraw the troops is responsible for the withdrawal. I think that's pretty conclusive but thanks for the media matters and wikipedia links anyways.
Thanks for the revisionist history.
Thanks for turning your back on an Iraqi populace who took a chance on freedom. Whether you were for the war or not your country did invade and you owed it to the average Iraqi to stick it out for the long haul. Instead you left them to the slaughter.
What are you eating, bath salts? What the fuck are you talking about? How many fucken innocent Iraqis did "we" fucken kill in the invasion? And you're sitting here saying we left the to the slaughter? We fucken did the slaughtering you brainless numbnut. Jesus your minds all fucked up and twisted. See, I've said it before and I'll say it again, you're a sick fucken person. You need some serious mental help. Wow. To think someone like you believes these things and actually posts and brags like he's got some big dick. Holyfuck man, stay off the bath salts.
Say again? Who is responsible for withdrawing US troops from Iraq? BS, I turn my lonely eyes to you.
U.S. President George W. Bush hailed the passing of the agreement between the two countries. "The Security Agreement addresses our presence, activities, and withdrawal from Iraq", Bush said. He continued that "two years ago, this day seemed unlikely - but the success of the surge and the courage of the Iraqi people set the conditions for these two agreements to be negotiated and approved by the Iraqi parliament".[39]
Read Article 24 professor Chickenhawk. Who signed the agreement? Care to reassign your blame for the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq? I didn't think so.
The person who gave the order to withdraw the troops is responsible for the withdrawal. I think that's pretty conclusive but thanks for the media matters and wikipedia links anyways.
Thanks for the revisionist history.
Thanks for turning your back on an Iraqi populace who took a chance on freedom. Whether you were for the war or not your country did invade and you owed it to the average Iraqi to stick it out for the long haul. Instead you left them to the slaughter.
What are you eating, bath salts? What the fuck are you talking about? How many fucken innocent Iraqis did "we" fucken kill in the invasion? And you're sitting here saying we left the to the slaughter? We fucken did the slaughtering you brainless numbnut. Jesus your minds all fucked up and twisted. See, I've said it before and I'll say it again, you're a sick fucken person. You need some serious mental help. Wow. To think someone like you believes these things and actually posts and brags like he's got some big dick. Holyfuck man, stay off the bath salts.
Either that or someone tells BS to stop sneaking behind Nurse Ratched's back to use her iPad. Sad to see mental patients have wifi access. Tsk,tsk.
Say again? Who is responsible for withdrawing US troops from Iraq? BS, I turn my lonely eyes to you.
U.S. President George W. Bush hailed the passing of the agreement between the two countries. "The Security Agreement addresses our presence, activities, and withdrawal from Iraq", Bush said. He continued that "two years ago, this day seemed unlikely - but the success of the surge and the courage of the Iraqi people set the conditions for these two agreements to be negotiated and approved by the Iraqi parliament".[39]
Read Article 24 professor Chickenhawk. Who signed the agreement? Care to reassign your blame for the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq? I didn't think so.
The person who gave the order to withdraw the troops is responsible for the withdrawal. I think that's pretty conclusive but thanks for the media matters and wikipedia links anyways.
Thanks for the revisionist history.
Thanks for turning your back on an Iraqi populace who took a chance on freedom. Whether you were for the war or not your country did invade and you owed it to the average Iraqi to stick it out for the long haul. Instead you left them to the slaughter.
What are you eating, bath salts? What the fuck are you talking about? How many fucken innocent Iraqis did "we" fucken kill in the invasion? And you're sitting here saying we left the to the slaughter? We fucken did the slaughtering you brainless numbnut. Jesus your minds all fucked up and twisted. See, I've said it before and I'll say it again, you're a sick fucken person. You need some serious mental help. Wow. To think someone like you believes these things and actually posts and brags like he's got some big dick. Holyfuck man, stay off the bath salts.
Iraqi's were killed due to the invasion and Iraqi's are being killed due to the withdrawal. Even if you opposed the invasion the admirable thing to do would have been to stay and prevent the second set of deaths. If that position is a sickness then I don't want to be cured. Pass the bath salts please!
Say again? Who is responsible for withdrawing US troops from Iraq? BS, I turn my lonely eyes to you.
U.S. President George W. Bush hailed the passing of the agreement between the two countries. "The Security Agreement addresses our presence, activities, and withdrawal from Iraq", Bush said. He continued that "two years ago, this day seemed unlikely - but the success of the surge and the courage of the Iraqi people set the conditions for these two agreements to be negotiated and approved by the Iraqi parliament".[39]
Read Article 24 professor Chickenhawk. Who signed the agreement? Care to reassign your blame for the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq? I didn't think so.
The person who gave the order to withdraw the troops is responsible for the withdrawal. I think that's pretty conclusive but thanks for the media matters and wikipedia links anyways.
Thanks for the revisionist history.
Thanks for turning your back on an Iraqi populace who took a chance on freedom. Whether you were for the war or not your country did invade and you owed it to the average Iraqi to stick it out for the long haul. Instead you left them to the slaughter.
What are you eating, bath salts? What the fuck are you talking about? How many fucken innocent Iraqis did "we" fucken kill in the invasion? And you're sitting here saying we left the to the slaughter? We fucken did the slaughtering you brainless numbnut. Jesus your minds all fucked up and twisted. See, I've said it before and I'll say it again, you're a sick fucken person. You need some serious mental help. Wow. To think someone like you believes these things and actually posts and brags like he's got some big dick. Holyfuck man, stay off the bath salts.
Iraqi's were killed due to the invasion and Iraqi's are being killed due to the withdrawal. Even if you opposed the invasion the admirable thing to do would have been to stay and prevent the second set of deaths. If that position is a sickness then I don't want to be cured. Pass the bath salts please!
Brilliant post! You're so smart!!! We killed them with the invasion, now they're dying because we're withdrawing so we must save them? Wow, my heads spinning trying to figure his out. We killed them first, now we have to save them from dying. Unreal
BS, you've said you have kids. They old enough to register and fight? In sure the Canadian army has a place for you to serve. Stop being a chicken shit and go fight. What's the matter, you a coward? You the type of guy who likes others to do the fighting for you? Brave man. Your kids should look up to you, and be proud, ya right.
Say again? Who is responsible for withdrawing US troops from Iraq? BS, I turn my lonely eyes to you.
U.S. President George W. Bush hailed the passing of the agreement between the two countries. "The Security Agreement addresses our presence, activities, and withdrawal from Iraq", Bush said. He continued that "two years ago, this day seemed unlikely - but the success of the surge and the courage of the Iraqi people set the conditions for these two agreements to be negotiated and approved by the Iraqi parliament".[39]
Read Article 24 professor Chickenhawk. Who signed the agreement? Care to reassign your blame for the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq? I didn't think so.
BS is arguing that if we look at this situation for what it is- ignoring how we got here- is a humanitarian effort needed or required in Iraq?
He can argue till he's blue, until he puts his signature on the dotted line and offered up his services or his kids services, he'll be a chicken shit war monger.
Say again? Who is responsible for withdrawing US troops from Iraq? BS, I turn my lonely eyes to you.
U.S. President George W. Bush hailed the passing of the agreement between the two countries. "The Security Agreement addresses our presence, activities, and withdrawal from Iraq", Bush said. He continued that "two years ago, this day seemed unlikely - but the success of the surge and the courage of the Iraqi people set the conditions for these two agreements to be negotiated and approved by the Iraqi parliament".[39]
Read Article 24 professor Chickenhawk. Who signed the agreement? Care to reassign your blame for the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq? I didn't think so.
Presidents sign treaties. The one in the link was probably the preliminary treaty signed prior to the official treaty signing ceremony. The link is GWB's White House archive web page of the official signing.
BS is arguing that if we look at this situation for what it is- ignoring how we got here- is a humanitarian effort needed or required in Iraq?
He can argue till he's blue, until he puts his signature on the dotted line and offered up his services or his kids services, he'll be a chicken shit war monger.
But remove him from the equation and look at the situation for what it is. Is the area worth a humanitarian intervention?
I remember western society sitting idle as a genocide unfolded in Rwanda- the Tutsi people there needed help from the people who could offer it... yet it never came. We all know why.
I do not have the answers. I just have problems reading news fraught with horrific details of genocidal activity. Do we have a moral or ethical responsibility to assist when we can?
BS is arguing that if we look at this situation for what it is- ignoring how we got here- is a humanitarian effort needed or required in Iraq?
He can argue till he's blue, until he puts his signature on the dotted line and offered up his services or his kids services, he'll be a chicken shit war monger.
But remove him from the equation and look at the situation for what it is. Is the area worth a humanitarian intervention?
I remember western society sitting idle as a genocide unfolded in Rwanda- the Tutsi people there needed help from the people who could offer it... yet it never came. We all know why.
I do not have the answers. I just have problems reading news fraught with horrific details of genocidal activity. Do we have a moral or ethical responsibility to assist when we can?
Asking badbrains to remove me from the equation is impossible but you are asking exactly the right question. For some reason that question just makes him so mad. I mean it is mainly muslims killing other muslims...you would think badbrains would care? Instead he keeps suggesting that until me or my kids enlist we shouldn't even discuss it.
BS is arguing that if we look at this situation for what it is- ignoring how we got here- is a humanitarian effort needed or required in Iraq?
He can argue till he's blue, until he puts his signature on the dotted line and offered up his services or his kids services, he'll be a chicken shit war monger.
But remove him from the equation and look at the situation for what it is. Is the area worth a humanitarian intervention?
I remember western society sitting idle as a genocide unfolded in Rwanda- the Tutsi people there needed help from the people who could offer it... yet it never came. We all know why.
I do not have the answers. I just have problems reading news fraught with horrific details of genocidal activity. Do we have a moral or ethical responsibility to assist when we can?
Asking badbrains to remove me from the equation is impossible but you are asking exactly the right question. For some reason that question just makes him so mad. I mean it is mainly muslims killing other muslims...you would think badbrains would care? Instead he keeps suggesting that until me or my kids enlist we shouldn't even discuss it.
No, until you grow some fucken balls and sign your services or your kids services. This guys a complete moron and anyone who tries to reason with him is just as lame. He tries to slither from post to post like a snake. Don't sit here and pretend good old BS cares about the Muslims. He doesn't. And we all see it. He gets a fucken hard on whenever someone sort of sides with him. How anyone or why anyone would baffles me. You read what we all read from this war monger. Until he grows some balls and drops off his kids at a receuiters office or he himself enlists, he'll always be a chicken shit war monger. How anyone actually defends him or speaks for him is beyond me. All you're doing is dumbing yourself down.
BS is arguing that if we look at this situation for what it is- ignoring how we got here- is a humanitarian effort needed or required in Iraq?
He can argue till he's blue, until he puts his signature on the dotted line and offered up his services or his kids services, he'll be a chicken shit war monger.
But remove him from the equation and look at the situation for what it is. Is the area worth a humanitarian intervention?
I remember western society sitting idle as a genocide unfolded in Rwanda- the Tutsi people there needed help from the people who could offer it... yet it never came. We all know why.
I do not have the answers. I just have problems reading news fraught with horrific details of genocidal activity. Do we have a moral or ethical responsibility to assist when we can?
Asking badbrains to remove me from the equation is impossible but you are asking exactly the right question. For some reason that question just makes him so mad. I mean it is mainly muslims killing other muslims...you would think badbrains would care? Instead he keeps suggesting that until me or my kids enlist we shouldn't even discuss it.
No, until you grow some fucken balls and sign your services or your kids services. This guys a complete moron and anyone who tries to reason with him is just as lame. He tries to slither from post to post like a snake. Don't sit here and pretend good old BS cares about the Muslims. He doesn't. And we all see it. He gets a fucken hard on whenever someone sort of sides with him. How anyone or why anyone would baffles me. You read what we all read from this war monger. Until he grows some balls and drops off his kids at a receuiters office or he himself enlists, he'll always be a chicken shit war monger. How anyone actually defends him or speaks for him is beyond me. All you're doing is dumbing yourself down.
BS is arguing that if we look at this situation for what it is- ignoring how we got here- is a humanitarian effort needed or required in Iraq?
He can argue till he's blue, until he puts his signature on the dotted line and offered up his services or his kids services, he'll be a chicken shit war monger.
But remove him from the equation and look at the situation for what it is. Is the area worth a humanitarian intervention?
I remember western society sitting idle as a genocide unfolded in Rwanda- the Tutsi people there needed help from the people who could offer it... yet it never came. We all know why.
I do not have the answers. I just have problems reading news fraught with horrific details of genocidal activity. Do we have a moral or ethical responsibility to assist when we can?
Asking badbrains to remove me from the equation is impossible but you are asking exactly the right question. For some reason that question just makes him so mad. I mean it is mainly muslims killing other muslims...you would think badbrains would care? Instead he keeps suggesting that until me or my kids enlist we shouldn't even discuss it.
No, until you grow some fucken balls and sign your services or your kids services. This guys a complete moron and anyone who tries to reason with him is just as lame. He tries to slither from post to post like a snake. Don't sit here and pretend good old BS cares about the Muslims. He doesn't. And we all see it. He gets a fucken hard on whenever someone sort of sides with him. How anyone or why anyone would baffles me. You read what we all read from this war monger. Until he grows some balls and drops off his kids at a receuiters office or he himself enlists, he'll always be a chicken shit war monger. How anyone actually defends him or speaks for him is beyond me. All you're doing is dumbing yourself down.
Are you talking to me?
I was talking about BS and anyone who actually defends him.
BS is arguing that if we look at this situation for what it is- ignoring how we got here- is a humanitarian effort needed or required in Iraq?
He can argue till he's blue, until he puts his signature on the dotted line and offered up his services or his kids services, he'll be a chicken shit war monger.
But remove him from the equation and look at the situation for what it is. Is the area worth a humanitarian intervention?
I remember western society sitting idle as a genocide unfolded in Rwanda- the Tutsi people there needed help from the people who could offer it... yet it never came. We all know why.
I do not have the answers. I just have problems reading news fraught with horrific details of genocidal activity. Do we have a moral or ethical responsibility to assist when we can?
I've quoted myself here to save time with a cumbersome cut and paste tablet process.
If you'd stop throwing haymakers at BS and get to the topic, I'd be curious to know where you are at with regards to the questions I posed here.
In the Rwanda genocide, Belgium bore some responsibility for the tension between the Hutu and Tutsi people- heavily favoring the Tutsi people throughout their colonial efforts. When Belgium fled the country after some of their soldiers were killed, leaving the Tutsi exposed to the brutality of the Hutu people, many felt that Belgium essentially shrugged off their moral and ethical responsibility to help prevent the mass murder.
How can the US best assist with the disaster they have created? It might very well be to sit on the sidelines and watch the spectacle unfold, however, given their culpability in the entire mess, I cannot help but feel they are indebted to do something other than brush their hands off.
BS is arguing that if we look at this situation for what it is- ignoring how we got here- is a humanitarian effort needed or required in Iraq?
He can argue till he's blue, until he puts his signature on the dotted line and offered up his services or his kids services, he'll be a chicken shit war monger.
But remove him from the equation and look at the situation for what it is. Is the area worth a humanitarian intervention?
I remember western society sitting idle as a genocide unfolded in Rwanda- the Tutsi people there needed help from the people who could offer it... yet it never came. We all know why.
I do not have the answers. I just have problems reading news fraught with horrific details of genocidal activity. Do we have a moral or ethical responsibility to assist when we can?
I've quoted myself here to save time with a cumbersome cut and paste tablet process.
If you'd stop throwing haymakers at BS and get to the topic, I'd be curious to know where you are at with regards to the questions I posed here.
In the Rwanda genocide, Belgium bore some responsibility for the tension between the Hutu and Tutsi people- heavily favoring the Tutsi people throughout their colonial efforts. When Belgium fled the country after some of their soldiers were killed, leaving the Tutsi exposed to the brutality of the Hutu people, many felt that Belgium essentially shrugged off their moral and ethical responsibility to help prevent the mass murder.
How can the US best assist with the disaster they have created? It might very well be to sit on the sidelines and watch the spectacle unfold, however, given their culpability in the entire mess, I cannot help but feel they are indebted to do something other than brush their hands off.
This is far from an easy situation.
Thirty, I'll throw haymakers at whoever the fuck I want. It's amazing that someone actually defends this clown. And it's you? Lol
BS is arguing that if we look at this situation for what it is- ignoring how we got here- is a humanitarian effort needed or required in Iraq?
He can argue till he's blue, until he puts his signature on the dotted line and offered up his services or his kids services, he'll be a chicken shit war monger.
But remove him from the equation and look at the situation for what it is. Is the area worth a humanitarian intervention?
I remember western society sitting idle as a genocide unfolded in Rwanda- the Tutsi people there needed help from the people who could offer it... yet it never came. We all know why.
I do not have the answers. I just have problems reading news fraught with horrific details of genocidal activity. Do we have a moral or ethical responsibility to assist when we can?
I've quoted myself here to save time with a cumbersome cut and paste tablet process.
If you'd stop throwing haymakers at BS and get to the topic, I'd be curious to know where you are at with regards to the questions I posed here.
In the Rwanda genocide, Belgium bore some responsibility for the tension between the Hutu and Tutsi people- heavily favoring the Tutsi people throughout their colonial efforts. When Belgium fled the country after some of their soldiers were killed, leaving the Tutsi exposed to the brutality of the Hutu people, many felt that Belgium essentially shrugged off their moral and ethical responsibility to help prevent the mass murder.
How can the US best assist with the disaster they have created? It might very well be to sit on the sidelines and watch the spectacle unfold, however, given their culpability in the entire mess, I cannot help but feel they are indebted to do something other than brush their hands off.
This is far from an easy situation.
Thirty, I'll throw haymakers at whoever the fuck I want. It's amazing that someone actually defends this clown. And it's you? Lol
You're blind here. I'm not defending anyone.
I'm asking legitimate questions that you either seem unwilling or unprepared to answer. Do you wish to converse or do you simply want to fling mud?
BS is arguing that if we look at this situation for what it is- ignoring how we got here- is a humanitarian effort needed or required in Iraq?
He can argue till he's blue, until he puts his signature on the dotted line and offered up his services or his kids services, he'll be a chicken shit war monger.
But remove him from the equation and look at the situation for what it is. Is the area worth a humanitarian intervention?
I remember western society sitting idle as a genocide unfolded in Rwanda- the Tutsi people there needed help from the people who could offer it... yet it never came. We all know why.
I do not have the answers. I just have problems reading news fraught with horrific details of genocidal activity. Do we have a moral or ethical responsibility to assist when we can?
I've quoted myself here to save time with a cumbersome cut and paste tablet process.
If you'd stop throwing haymakers at BS and get to the topic, I'd be curious to know where you are at with regards to the questions I posed here.
In the Rwanda genocide, Belgium bore some responsibility for the tension between the Hutu and Tutsi people- heavily favoring the Tutsi people throughout their colonial efforts. When Belgium fled the country after some of their soldiers were killed, leaving the Tutsi exposed to the brutality of the Hutu people, many felt that Belgium essentially shrugged off their moral and ethical responsibility to help prevent the mass murder.
How can the US best assist with the disaster they have created? It might very well be to sit on the sidelines and watch the spectacle unfold, however, given their culpability in the entire mess, I cannot help but feel they are indebted to do something other than brush their hands off.
This is far from an easy situation.
Thirty, I'll throw haymakers at whoever the fuck I want. It's amazing that someone actually defends this clown. And it's you? Lol
You're blind here. I'm not defending anyone.
I'm asking legitimate questions that you either seem unwilling or unprepared to answer. Do you wish to converse or do you simply want to fling mud?
Dude, honestly, I don't give a fuck anymore. So call me blind, dumb whatever. Have you ever called BS out? Have you made any comments about his idiotic claims? I don't recall. Yet you have a problem with me flinging mud or haymakers at him? Interesting.
I don't care about the personal issue you have with BS. I came to you here in the interest of conversation and you have managed to twist that genuine attempt into an assault.
If this thread has gone beyond a discussion forum and established itself as a sparring ring... then I missed the memo.
I challenge you to refer back to my posts and tell me where I wandered out of bounds. Have a nice day.
I don't care about the personal issue you have with BS. I came to you here in the interest of conversation and you have managed to twist that genuine attempt into an assault.
If this thread has gone beyond a discussion forum and established itself as a sparring ring... then I missed the memo.
I challenge you to refer back to my posts and tell me where I wandered out of bounds. Have a nice day.
Let the Muslims in that area handle it. I've said it before, maybe you were the blind one who didn't see my post but I've said if before. Let the Muslims in that area have a legitimate chance at handling that mess. Not with us poking here and there. Shit, were arming the rebels and Isis at the same time we want to fight them? Anyone else find that strange?
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U.S. President George W. Bush hailed the passing of the agreement between the two countries. "The Security Agreement addresses our presence, activities, and withdrawal from Iraq", Bush said. He continued that "two years ago, this day seemed unlikely - but the success of the surge and the courage of the Iraqi people set the conditions for these two agreements to be negotiated and approved by the Iraqi parliament".[39]
m.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.–Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement
http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/08/10/rewriting-history-conservatives-attack-obama-fo/200380
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/122074.pdf
Read Article 24 professor Chickenhawk. Who signed the agreement? Care to reassign your blame for the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq? I didn't think so.
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In case you missed it, GWB agreed to withdraw US forces from Iraq and the Iraqis wanted us out. So much for the breath of freedom and national sovereignty you're always prattling on about it. The Iraqis won't even fight for themselves and the US staying in the middle of that shit storm is utter stupidity.
Please let me know when Canada steps up with $2.3 trillion and 130,000 ground troops.
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http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/operations-abroad-current/op-impact-airstrikes.page
Will keep you posted on the ground troops but I wouldn't expect them anytime soon. Like I said it appears to be too little too late. War is lost.
I might be wrong, but it doesn't match up to me.
Presidents sign treaties. The one in the link was probably the preliminary treaty signed prior to the official treaty signing ceremony. The link is GWB's White House archive web page of the official signing.
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I remember western society sitting idle as a genocide unfolded in Rwanda- the Tutsi people there needed help from the people who could offer it... yet it never came. We all know why.
I do not have the answers. I just have problems reading news fraught with horrific details of genocidal activity. Do we have a moral or ethical responsibility to assist when we can?
If you'd stop throwing haymakers at BS and get to the topic, I'd be curious to know where you are at with regards to the questions I posed here.
In the Rwanda genocide, Belgium bore some responsibility for the tension between the Hutu and Tutsi people- heavily favoring the Tutsi people throughout their colonial efforts. When Belgium fled the country after some of their soldiers were killed, leaving the Tutsi exposed to the brutality of the Hutu people, many felt that Belgium essentially shrugged off their moral and ethical responsibility to help prevent the mass murder.
How can the US best assist with the disaster they have created? It might very well be to sit on the sidelines and watch the spectacle unfold, however, given their culpability in the entire mess, I cannot help but feel they are indebted to do something other than brush their hands off.
This is far from an easy situation.
I'm asking legitimate questions that you either seem unwilling or unprepared to answer. Do you wish to converse or do you simply want to fling mud?
Easy big fella.
I don't care about the personal issue you have with BS. I came to you here in the interest of conversation and you have managed to twist that genuine attempt into an assault.
If this thread has gone beyond a discussion forum and established itself as a sparring ring... then I missed the memo.
I challenge you to refer back to my posts and tell me where I wandered out of bounds. Have a nice day.