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Well done J.That was a phenomenal pull right there.Drop the Mike and walk off stage.Def was not expecting you to go there.It hurts and scares me a little (a lot)Im not gunna lie.
Leaf looks good right.Whats he up 2 now?Are those Meth teeth?Life has been good to him indeed.I think he needs some of that Sex Panther.Post edited by rr165892 on0 -
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We can't control others.Godfather. said:
do we understand ramifications of others actions ? nobody is without falt.callen said:
No GF not making excuses just understand ramifications from our actions.Godfather. said:
probably very true but the train members will make excuses for them and blame Americas anyway...muskydan said:
I think is way too late GD. They are amongst us now as we all know. I think it's only a matter of time of when and where it happens again here.Godfather. said:
I don't but I believe if we don't the evil tht may be happening in another country could find it's way to our country likr the 9/11 attacks did, believe me I think the whole thing sucks ass.callen said:
I'm confused GF. So why do you support intervening if you feel they aren't grateful?Godfather. said:well then if they don't want to pay the price then they should not ask..that's about as simple as it gets.
and besides it always turns around to bite us in the ass anyway..."they're killing babies and women"
or after the job is complete in thier eyes they protest and tell us to leave and start burning flags and going back to the islam thing that we are infedels, war has many costs and many ugly truths so maybe these countries should be careful what they ask for.
Godfather.
And why is US responsible for acting? What's our real interest?
Godfather.
Godfather.
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so true but it does not mean we can not do our best to control the situation to keep America safe.callen said:
We can't control others.Godfather. said:
do we understand ramifications of others actions ? nobody is without falt.callen said:
No GF not making excuses just understand ramifications from our actions.Godfather. said:
probably very true but the train members will make excuses for them and blame Americas anyway...muskydan said:
I think is way too late GD. They are amongst us now as we all know. I think it's only a matter of time of when and where it happens again here.Godfather. said:
I don't but I believe if we don't the evil tht may be happening in another country could find it's way to our country likr the 9/11 attacks did, believe me I think the whole thing sucks ass.callen said:
I'm confused GF. So why do you support intervening if you feel they aren't grateful?Godfather. said:well then if they don't want to pay the price then they should not ask..that's about as simple as it gets.
and besides it always turns around to bite us in the ass anyway..."they're killing babies and women"
or after the job is complete in thier eyes they protest and tell us to leave and start burning flags and going back to the islam thing that we are infedels, war has many costs and many ugly truths so maybe these countries should be careful what they ask for.
Godfather.
And why is US responsible for acting? What's our real interest?
Godfather.
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Godfather.
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It does if we need to control others to control the situation.Godfather. said:
so true but it does not mean we can not do our best to control the situation to keep America safe.callen said:
We can't control others.Godfather. said:
do we understand ramifications of others actions ? nobody is without falt.callen said:
No GF not making excuses just understand ramifications from our actions.Godfather. said:
probably very true but the train members will make excuses for them and blame Americas anyway...muskydan said:
I think is way too late GD. They are amongst us now as we all know. I think it's only a matter of time of when and where it happens again here.Godfather. said:
I don't but I believe if we don't the evil tht may be happening in another country could find it's way to our country likr the 9/11 attacks did, believe me I think the whole thing sucks ass.callen said:
I'm confused GF. So why do you support intervening if you feel they aren't grateful?Godfather. said:well then if they don't want to pay the price then they should not ask..that's about as simple as it gets.
and besides it always turns around to bite us in the ass anyway..."they're killing babies and women"
or after the job is complete in thier eyes they protest and tell us to leave and start burning flags and going back to the islam thing that we are infedels, war has many costs and many ugly truths so maybe these countries should be careful what they ask for.
Godfather.
And why is US responsible for acting? What's our real interest?
Godfather.
Godfather.
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I can think of many situations where we control others to control a situation.benjs said:
It does if we need to control others to control the situation.Godfather. said:
so true but it does not mean we can not do our best to control the situation to keep America safe.callen said:
We can't control others.Godfather. said:
do we understand ramifications of others actions ? nobody is without falt.callen said:
No GF not making excuses just understand ramifications from our actions.Godfather. said:
probably very true but the train members will make excuses for them and blame Americas anyway...muskydan said:
I think is way too late GD. They are amongst us now as we all know. I think it's only a matter of time of when and where it happens again here.Godfather. said:
I don't but I believe if we don't the evil tht may be happening in another country could find it's way to our country likr the 9/11 attacks did, believe me I think the whole thing sucks ass.callen said:
I'm confused GF. So why do you support intervening if you feel they aren't grateful?Godfather. said:well then if they don't want to pay the price then they should not ask..that's about as simple as it gets.
and besides it always turns around to bite us in the ass anyway..."they're killing babies and women"
or after the job is complete in thier eyes they protest and tell us to leave and start burning flags and going back to the islam thing that we are infedels, war has many costs and many ugly truths so maybe these countries should be careful what they ask for.
Godfather.
And why is US responsible for acting? What's our real interest?
Godfather.
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Thirty - I was just going along with Callen and GF's logic here. Callen mentioned we can't control others, which GF confirmed. He then continued that we should do our best to control the situation. If you've already accepted that we can't control others, then we can't control the situation if it depends on that premise.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I can think of many situations where we control others to control a situation.benjs said:
It does if we need to control others to control the situation.Godfather. said:
so true but it does not mean we can not do our best to control the situation to keep America safe.callen said:
We can't control others.Godfather. said:
do we understand ramifications of others actions ? nobody is without falt.callen said:
No GF not making excuses just understand ramifications from our actions.Godfather. said:
probably very true but the train members will make excuses for them and blame Americas anyway...muskydan said:
I think is way too late GD. They are amongst us now as we all know. I think it's only a matter of time of when and where it happens again here.Godfather. said:
I don't but I believe if we don't the evil tht may be happening in another country could find it's way to our country likr the 9/11 attacks did, believe me I think the whole thing sucks ass.callen said:
I'm confused GF. So why do you support intervening if you feel they aren't grateful?Godfather. said:well then if they don't want to pay the price then they should not ask..that's about as simple as it gets.
and besides it always turns around to bite us in the ass anyway..."they're killing babies and women"
or after the job is complete in thier eyes they protest and tell us to leave and start burning flags and going back to the islam thing that we are infedels, war has many costs and many ugly truths so maybe these countries should be careful what they ask for.
Godfather.
And why is US responsible for acting? What's our real interest?
Godfather.
Godfather.
Godfather.
Godfather.
In any case, Callen, I'm not sure what you were implying in your sentence: can't control others as in physically incapable of doing so, or shouldn't?'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Got it.benjs said:
Thirty - I was just going along with Callen and GF's logic here. Callen mentioned we can't control others, which GF confirmed. He then continued that we should do our best to control the situation. If you've already accepted that we can't control others, then we can't control the situation if it depends on that premise.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I can think of many situations where we control others to control a situation.benjs said:
It does if we need to control others to control the situation.Godfather. said:
so true but it does not mean we can not do our best to control the situation to keep America safe.callen said:
We can't control others.Godfather. said:
do we understand ramifications of others actions ? nobody is without falt.callen said:
No GF not making excuses just understand ramifications from our actions.Godfather. said:
probably very true but the train members will make excuses for them and blame Americas anyway...muskydan said:
I think is way too late GD. They are amongst us now as we all know. I think it's only a matter of time of when and where it happens again here.Godfather. said:
I don't but I believe if we don't the evil tht may be happening in another country could find it's way to our country likr the 9/11 attacks did, believe me I think the whole thing sucks ass.callen said:
I'm confused GF. So why do you support intervening if you feel they aren't grateful?Godfather. said:well then if they don't want to pay the price then they should not ask..that's about as simple as it gets.
and besides it always turns around to bite us in the ass anyway..."they're killing babies and women"
or after the job is complete in thier eyes they protest and tell us to leave and start burning flags and going back to the islam thing that we are infedels, war has many costs and many ugly truths so maybe these countries should be careful what they ask for.
Godfather.
And why is US responsible for acting? What's our real interest?
Godfather.
Godfather.
Godfather.
Godfather.
In any case, Callen, I'm not sure what you were implying in your sentence: can't control others as in physically incapable of doing so, or shouldn't?
I'd be curious to hear an elaboration on these two points as well."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
? would you rather they controled us ?benjs said:
It does if we need to control others to control the situation.Godfather. said:
so true but it does not mean we can not do our best to control the situation to keep America safe.callen said:
We can't control others.Godfather. said:
do we understand ramifications of others actions ? nobody is without falt.callen said:
No GF not making excuses just understand ramifications from our actions.Godfather. said:
probably very true but the train members will make excuses for them and blame Americas anyway...muskydan said:
I think is way too late GD. They are amongst us now as we all know. I think it's only a matter of time of when and where it happens again here.Godfather. said:
I don't but I believe if we don't the evil tht may be happening in another country could find it's way to our country likr the 9/11 attacks did, believe me I think the whole thing sucks ass.callen said:
I'm confused GF. So why do you support intervening if you feel they aren't grateful?Godfather. said:well then if they don't want to pay the price then they should not ask..that's about as simple as it gets.
and besides it always turns around to bite us in the ass anyway..."they're killing babies and women"
or after the job is complete in thier eyes they protest and tell us to leave and start burning flags and going back to the islam thing that we are infedels, war has many costs and many ugly truths so maybe these countries should be careful what they ask for.
Godfather.
And why is US responsible for acting? What's our real interest?
Godfather.
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In a perfect world, nobody controls anyone. I'm not naive enough to think we're at a point where we're all ready to live that idealistically. That said, I don't believe that if we don't control radicals, that it implies that radicals control us. It all goes back to the 'localized vs. global' discussion (i.e. how far is the reach of the radicals), and then it also comes back to statistical analysis for me: we have enough verifiable threats to our existence that I'd rather let govern my day-to-day life, and much as it seems that we have limitless effort to spend, we do have a finite budget to work within. So, if given a choice to reallocate funds from military 'defence' to research in low-CO2 emission manufacturing or energy consumption - I'd be quick to put my support into that. In fact, since we should be making that critical pivot anyways, I'd say that by letting this 'threat' stagnate our society, our attempt to control the situation by throwing military forces (and the funds they consume) into foreign lands, the opportunity cost is the funds not divested into our (human's) futures. In this sense, Godfather, in intervening, they actually are controlling us.Godfather. said:
? would you rather they controled us ?benjs said:
It does if we need to control others to control the situation.Godfather. said:
so true but it does not mean we can not do our best to control the situation to keep America safe.callen said:
We can't control others.Godfather. said:
do we understand ramifications of others actions ? nobody is without falt.callen said:
No GF not making excuses just understand ramifications from our actions.Godfather. said:
probably very true but the train members will make excuses for them and blame Americas anyway...muskydan said:
I think is way too late GD. They are amongst us now as we all know. I think it's only a matter of time of when and where it happens again here.Godfather. said:
I don't but I believe if we don't the evil tht may be happening in another country could find it's way to our country likr the 9/11 attacks did, believe me I think the whole thing sucks ass.callen said:
I'm confused GF. So why do you support intervening if you feel they aren't grateful?Godfather. said:well then if they don't want to pay the price then they should not ask..that's about as simple as it gets.
and besides it always turns around to bite us in the ass anyway..."they're killing babies and women"
or after the job is complete in thier eyes they protest and tell us to leave and start burning flags and going back to the islam thing that we are infedels, war has many costs and many ugly truths so maybe these countries should be careful what they ask for.
Godfather.
And why is US responsible for acting? What's our real interest?
Godfather.
Godfather.
Godfather.
Godfather.
Godfather.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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We can't control the actions of others only our response to those actions. So if the Evildoers blow up few people we shouldn't go Team America and blow the shit out of the country doing more harm than good which has been our MO.benjs said:
Thirty - I was just going along with Callen and GF's logic here. Callen mentioned we can't control others, which GF confirmed. He then continued that we should do our best to control the situation. If you've already accepted that we can't control others, then we can't control the situation if it depends on that premise.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I can think of many situations where we control others to control a situation.benjs said:
It does if we need to control others to control the situation.Godfather. said:
so true but it does not mean we can not do our best to control the situation to keep America safe.callen said:
We can't control others.Godfather. said:
do we understand ramifications of others actions ? nobody is without falt.callen said:
No GF not making excuses just understand ramifications from our actions.Godfather. said:
probably very true but the train members will make excuses for them and blame Americas anyway...muskydan said:
I think is way too late GD. They are amongst us now as we all know. I think it's only a matter of time of when and where it happens again here.Godfather. said:
I don't but I believe if we don't the evil tht may be happening in another country could find it's way to our country likr the 9/11 attacks did, believe me I think the whole thing sucks ass.callen said:
I'm confused GF. So why do you support intervening if you feel they aren't grateful?Godfather. said:well then if they don't want to pay the price then they should not ask..that's about as simple as it gets.
and besides it always turns around to bite us in the ass anyway..."they're killing babies and women"
or after the job is complete in thier eyes they protest and tell us to leave and start burning flags and going back to the islam thing that we are infedels, war has many costs and many ugly truths so maybe these countries should be careful what they ask for.
Godfather.
And why is US responsible for acting? What's our real interest?
Godfather.
Godfather.
Godfather.
Godfather.
In any case, Callen, I'm not sure what you were implying in your sentence: can't control others as in physically incapable of doing so, or shouldn't?
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Embedding our asses in the Middle East doesn't make us safer. But we've gone round and round on this so will stop addressing.Godfather. said:
so true but it does not mean we can not do our best to control the situation to keep America safe.callen said:
We can't control others.Godfather. said:
do we understand ramifications of others actions ? nobody is without falt.callen said:
No GF not making excuses just understand ramifications from our actions.Godfather. said:
probably very true but the train members will make excuses for them and blame Americas anyway...muskydan said:
I think is way too late GD. They are amongst us now as we all know. I think it's only a matter of time of when and where it happens again here.Godfather. said:
I don't but I believe if we don't the evil tht may be happening in another country could find it's way to our country likr the 9/11 attacks did, believe me I think the whole thing sucks ass.callen said:
I'm confused GF. So why do you support intervening if you feel they aren't grateful?Godfather. said:well then if they don't want to pay the price then they should not ask..that's about as simple as it gets.
and besides it always turns around to bite us in the ass anyway..."they're killing babies and women"
or after the job is complete in thier eyes they protest and tell us to leave and start burning flags and going back to the islam thing that we are infedels, war has many costs and many ugly truths so maybe these countries should be careful what they ask for.
Godfather.
And why is US responsible for acting? What's our real interest?
Godfather.
Godfather.
Godfather.
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Patriotism is bull shit on every level. Sacrificing your one life for a country is nuts. Patriotism is simple mind manipulation to control human population. Unfortunately we have evolved from tribes/herds and used this trait as means of survival. One thing to enjoy your environment, culture and people around you but the Patriotism bit is insane. Eh maybe just maybe when you had wars to protect herd from invaders but now all wars fought for $$$$. Iraq was for $$$$. Not freedom or the USA. And right now the news is feeding info to get our blood flowing and PROTECT THE US. Utter BS.Annafalk said:I see nothing bad with patriotism, to be proud over your country, a feeling of belonging and connection.
It doesn't mean that you have to look down on other countries does it?
To be proud it's a good feeling and it brings more happiness to people. It doesn't mean one can't have a critical thinking on different issues.
I could be wrong but I think I read somewhere that many Americans don't have a passport.
Maybe it's because they feel no need to travel they have what they want whitin the boarders and that's great.
I'm from Sweden and I love my country but we have our problems too.Post edited by callen on10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG0 -
And wonder how many Americans died from violence today at the hands of other Americans in America?rr165892 said:Another busy day for those wacky Jihadists.
What do we got today.
A suicide Bomber at a bus stop offs herself and 17 others.Another group of Syrian Christians, mostly women and children kidnapped by ISIS And an American aid worker kidnapped in Nigeria.Oh yeah and the Threats for Mall attacks and other soft targets.Buisness as Usual.Post edited by callen on10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG0 -
They've succeeded in doing this already.Godfather. said:
? would you rather they controled us ?benjs said:
It does if we need to control others to control the situation.Godfather. said:
so true but it does not mean we can not do our best to control the situation to keep America safe.callen said:
We can't control others.Godfather. said:
do we understand ramifications of others actions ? nobody is without falt.callen said:
No GF not making excuses just understand ramifications from our actions.Godfather. said:
probably very true but the train members will make excuses for them and blame Americas anyway...muskydan said:
I think is way too late GD. They are amongst us now as we all know. I think it's only a matter of time of when and where it happens again here.Godfather. said:
I don't but I believe if we don't the evil tht may be happening in another country could find it's way to our country likr the 9/11 attacks did, believe me I think the whole thing sucks ass.callen said:
I'm confused GF. So why do you support intervening if you feel they aren't grateful?Godfather. said:well then if they don't want to pay the price then they should not ask..that's about as simple as it gets.
and besides it always turns around to bite us in the ass anyway..."they're killing babies and women"
or after the job is complete in thier eyes they protest and tell us to leave and start burning flags and going back to the islam thing that we are infedels, war has many costs and many ugly truths so maybe these countries should be careful what they ask for.
Godfather.
And why is US responsible for acting? What's our real interest?
Godfather.
Godfather.
Godfather.
Godfather.
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Perhaps not control, but contain. Stop the spread.Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0
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what do you think should be done about ISIS or any other terrorist group?callen said:
We can't control the actions of others only our response to those actions. So if the Evildoers blow up few people we shouldn't go Team America and blow the shit out of the country doing more harm than good which has been our MO.benjs said:
Thirty - I was just going along with Callen and GF's logic here. Callen mentioned we can't control others, which GF confirmed. He then continued that we should do our best to control the situation. If you've already accepted that we can't control others, then we can't control the situation if it depends on that premise.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I can think of many situations where we control others to control a situation.benjs said:
It does if we need to control others to control the situation.Godfather. said:
so true but it does not mean we can not do our best to control the situation to keep America safe.callen said:
We can't control others.Godfather. said:
do we understand ramifications of others actions ? nobody is without falt.callen said:
No GF not making excuses just understand ramifications from our actions.Godfather. said:
probably very true but the train members will make excuses for them and blame Americas anyway...muskydan said:
I think is way too late GD. They are amongst us now as we all know. I think it's only a matter of time of when and where it happens again here.Godfather. said:
I don't but I believe if we don't the evil tht may be happening in another country could find it's way to our country likr the 9/11 attacks did, believe me I think the whole thing sucks ass.callen said:
I'm confused GF. So why do you support intervening if you feel they aren't grateful?Godfather. said:well then if they don't want to pay the price then they should not ask..that's about as simple as it gets.
and besides it always turns around to bite us in the ass anyway..."they're killing babies and women"
or after the job is complete in thier eyes they protest and tell us to leave and start burning flags and going back to the islam thing that we are infedels, war has many costs and many ugly truths so maybe these countries should be careful what they ask for.
Godfather.
And why is US responsible for acting? What's our real interest?
Godfather.
Godfather.
Godfather.
Godfather.
In any case, Callen, I'm not sure what you were implying in your sentence: can't control others as in physically incapable of doing so, or shouldn't?
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ISIS wants to control the world..we HAVE TO control ISIS so the they hide behind babies and women and gather up people that are not muslim and kill them and I know nobody wants to kill innocent people but guess what...it's very sad but it happens,do you think we should just throw our hands in the air and let these stupid inbred idiots just go on their merry way killing non muslims ? everybody wants peace but nobody is willing to fight for it and yes with gangs like ISIS in the world we have to fight, my buddy's son has done 4 tours in Iraq and afganastan..if you really want to know what goes on in those areas talk to somebody that has been there and knows,womwn and children kill just as fast as grown men, we don't know anything but what we see on t.v and see a few bloody pictures or films and all the sudden people are whinning about unfair deaths, and no I'm not saying it's good but this is what happens when MAN fights amungst them selfs so don't give me that crap about America being the bully.
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you say "killing non muslims" seems to suggest that ISIS killing muslims is ok?Godfather. said:ISIS wants to control the world..we HAVE TO control ISIS so the they hide behind babies and women and gather up people that are not muslim and kill them and I know nobody wants to kill innocent people but guess what...it's very sad but it happens,do you think we should just throw our hands in the air and let these stupid inbred idiots just go on their merry way killing non muslims ? everybody wants peace but nobody is willing to fight for it and yes with gangs like ISIS in the world we have to fight, my buddy's son has done 4 tours in Iraq and afganastan..if you really want to know what goes on in those areas talk to somebody that has been there and knows,womwn and children kill just as fast as grown men, we don't know anything but what we see on t.v and see a few bloody pictures or films and all the sudden people are whinning about unfair deaths, and no I'm not saying it's good but this is what happens when MAN fights amungst them selfs so don't give me that crap about America being the bully.
Godfather.
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