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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    edited October 2015
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    callen said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    callen said:

    I've answered this repeatedly. You are the product of your environment. Call the environment what you like. (Society).

    You aren't special Thirty. Your views action opportunities are programmed by your environment.

    What are you trying to say thirty? Please explain your question. Are you relating race with promiscuity? Is it a gene? If you feel so just say it.

    So your answer is 'yes'. You are saying society is to blame for two thirds of black children being raised by a single parent. It's interesting that you say this.

    I would disagree. I agree that it is a contributing factor, but its not the deciding factor. I would suggest that the cycle of children being raised by single parents is in full gear and perpetuating itself. There are reasons- such as the one you keep insisting- for this epidemic, but let's not deny it.

    * I'm not saying anything at all about genetics that distinguish one race from another. But I could though. I do believe there are inherent differences amongst the races that cannot be disputed very easily. For example... how many Chinese people do you see in the NBA compared to black people? It should be equal if people are all the same... but we are not. I'm not saying one race is better than the next race: we are different... and I have no problem with that at all.

    As for your silly question... no... no one race isn't hornier than another.
    Hmm seems by reading through your waffling post you agree with me. Cool. :)
    I wouldn't categorize this post as waffling by any stretch of the imagination.

    I agree in part with what you assert, however the problem-and I seem to be stating this again- is much more complex than what you give it credit for.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    edited October 2015
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-politicians-activists-stunned-by-aboriginal-women-s-sex-assault-allegations-1.3284787

    Politicians and First Nations activists in Quebec say they are shocked and are demanding a widespread investigation following allegations that provincial police abused and sexually assaulted aboriginal women in Val-d'Or.

    They say officers routinely picked up women who appeared to be intoxicated, drove them out of town and left them to walk home in the cold. Some allege they were physically assaulted or made to perform sex acts.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,727
    Well the cop in the classroom video used a bit of force I'd say ....
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,731
    edited October 2015
    dignin said:

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-politicians-activists-stunned-by-aboriginal-women-s-sex-assault-allegations-1.3284787

    Politicians and First Nations activists in Quebec say they are shocked and are demanding a widespread investigation following allegations that provincial police abused and sexually assaulted aboriginal women in Val-d'Or.

    They say officers routinely picked up women who appeared to be intoxicated, drove them out of town and left them to walk home in the cold. Some allege they were physically assaulted or made to perform sex acts.

    This is terrible, though I'm not entirely surprised just because I've been told by some people from northern Ontario about the racism towards Natives in Quebec and Ontario. This is foreign to me out on the West Coast, but according to those from that region (small town east-central Canada), the cops are plentiful and bad, and the disdain/racism towards aboriginals is rampant. Though I haven't witnessed it myself.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,949
    edited October 2015
    josevolution said:

    Well the cop in the classroom video used a bit of force I'd say ....

    i would say it was a bit excessive...BUT how was he supposed to get the girl out of the desk/classroom after she was repeatedly asked to leave and refused? should they just have let he sit there in defiance?
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,629
    PJ_Soul said:

    dignin said:

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-politicians-activists-stunned-by-aboriginal-women-s-sex-assault-allegations-1.3284787

    Politicians and First Nations activists in Quebec say they are shocked and are demanding a widespread investigation following allegations that provincial police abused and sexually assaulted aboriginal women in Val-d'Or.

    They say officers routinely picked up women who appeared to be intoxicated, drove them out of town and left them to walk home in the cold. Some allege they were physically assaulted or made to perform sex acts.

    This is terrible, though I'm not entirely surprised just because I've been told by some people from northern Ontario about the racism towards Natives in Quebec and Ontario. This is foreign to me out on the West Coast, but according to those from that region (small town east-central Canada), the cops are plentiful and bad, and the disdain/racism towards aboriginals is rampant. Though I haven't witnessed it myself.
    pretty bad in Manitoba. REALLY bad.

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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,727
    pjhawks said:

    josevolution said:

    Well the cop in the classroom video used a bit of force I'd say ....

    i would say it was a bit excessive...BUT how was he supposed to get the girl out of the desk/classroom after she was repeatedly asked to leave and refused? should they just have let he sit there in defiance?
    Maybe drag the whole desk with her on it out to hallway not sure but slamming her is surely not the way ....
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    josevolution said:

    pjhawks said:

    josevolution said:

    Well the cop in the classroom video used a bit of force I'd say ....

    i would say it was a bit excessive...BUT how was he supposed to get the girl out of the desk/classroom after she was repeatedly asked to leave and refused? should they just have let he sit there in defiance?
    Maybe drag the whole desk with her on it out to hallway not sure but slamming her is surely not the way ....
    At least say, "Pretty please."

    The right combination of words could have been the ticket... but how much patience are people required to have?

    Do we know what that girl was being asked to leave for? Couple this original offence with her defiance and it could be asserted she got what was coming to her. If you act like an ass... you should expect to be treated like one.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    josevolution said:

    pjhawks said:

    josevolution said:

    Well the cop in the classroom video used a bit of force I'd say ....

    i would say it was a bit excessive...BUT how was he supposed to get the girl out of the desk/classroom after she was repeatedly asked to leave and refused? should they just have let he sit there in defiance?
    Maybe drag the whole desk with her on it out to hallway not sure but slamming her is surely not the way ....
    At least say, "Pretty please."

    The right combination of words could have been the ticket... but how much patience are people required to have?

    Do we know what that girl was being asked to leave for? Couple this original offence with her defiance and it could be asserted she got what was coming to her. If you act like an ass... you should expect to be treated like one.
    Cops should be required to have more patience than that!
    MAYBE passive resistance equates to being an ass, but there is no question he used more force than was required to remove her from the classroom.
    Why slam her around like that? Because she was being an ass? Does that give him the right to be a bigger ass?
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    She committed the heinous crime of "disrupting school" and another student was charged for sticking up for her as well.
    Thank goodness this hero was there to bodyslam her before she committed further heinous acts of depravity.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,298
    rgambs said:

    She committed the heinous crime of "disrupting school" and another student was charged for sticking up for her as well.
    Thank goodness this hero was there to bodyslam her before she committed further heinous acts of depravity.

    i read she had been chewing gum.

    in class.

    holy shitballs! kick her ass and arrest her immediately!!!
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    She wasn't arrested for chewing gum.She was arrested because when she was being moved she punched the cop.He was the 3rd school official to try to get the student to leave.
    He may have been a little heavy handed but this kid was being an asshole while in class.

    Btw,the cop has a black girlfriend and all the kids say is a nice cool guy.very well liked.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,298
    rr165892 said:

    She wasn't arrested for chewing gum.She was arrested because when she was being moved she punched the cop.He was the 3rd school official to try to get the student to leave.
    He may have been a little heavy handed but this kid was being an asshole while in class.

    Btw,the cop has a black girlfriend and all the kids say is a nice cool guy.very well liked.

    he has been sued twice before.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,298
    this will be the third time.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    rr165892 said:

    She wasn't arrested for chewing gum.She was arrested because when she was being moved she punched the cop.He was the 3rd school official to try to get the student to leave.
    He may have been a little heavy handed but this kid was being an asshole while in class.

    Btw,the cop has a black girlfriend and all the kids say is a nice cool guy.very well liked.

    I saw from 2 angles, if she punched him, she sure did a shitty job!
    Nice, cool guy who had been sued for excessive force twice. Real tough guy in that video.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Police conning Into a classroom and slams a minor, a student like that. In front of all the other kids which will all now be affected. An adult or adults should be able to deal with teen rebellion. Let her sit there. Call her parents. Sooo many options but to havea thug cop come in and do this?!?!? So fked up. We are failing as a civilized society.

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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    gimmesometruth27 said:

    this will be the third time.

    One of the problems with your country.

    Act like an ass. Get treated like an ass. Then sue because you didn't like getting treated like an ass. And be successful!

    No wonder so many people act like asses. Your courts- and some attitudes- support asses.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    edited October 2015
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    this will be the third time.

    One of the problems with your country.

    Act like an ass. Get treated like an ass. Then sue because you didn't like getting treated like an ass. And be successful!

    No wonder so many people act like asses. Your courts- and some attitudes- support asses.
    So you've never been an ass? Did you have cops enforcing g rules in your school when growing up? Ever seen a teen slammed in your school. How would you feel if your daughter was in the class and witnessed this or think she may be next?!?!?
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    rr165892 said:

    She wasn't arrested for chewing gum.She was arrested because when she was being moved she punched the cop.He was the 3rd school official to try to get the student to leave.
    He may have been a little heavy handed but this kid was being an asshole while in class.

    Btw,the cop has a black girlfriend and all the kids say is a nice cool guy.very well liked.

    Only 3 officials tried to move her? There should have been at least 4.

    Why not move the class outside and continue the lesson in the hallway? Who cares about the disruption to the learning environment?

    Hilarious.

    How hard is it to leave the classroom after being asked to leave? I'll answer. It's not hard.

    If you choose to grandstand and act like an ass... you should be prepared to be treated like an ass.

    Now go sue. Your rights as an ass were abused.
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