Imagine That -- I’m Still Anti-War

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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    dimitrispearljam said:

    rr165892 said:

    dimitrispearljam said:

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    dimitrispearljam said:



    History is written from the winners...
    so if hitler had won back then all will be written different about usa and their allies

    May have been written different,but you would be talking German and good would not have prevailed.
    I speak Greek and i will continue to speak Greek...even after first attacked by italians and then after germans....learn some history what greeks did at World war 2 and leave the smart comments..not all kick out germans with help from outside..usa "didnt save all 'as u think or tells you at hollywood movies.

    " we would not say Greeks fight as Heroes..but we would say Heroes fights like Greeks..." Wiston Churchill

    I think you missed my point D.Europe as a whole would be different,Im not singling out Greece.The landscape(France,Belguim.Poland,etc)Would be very different.Of course the Allies Didnt do this alone.But had the 3rd Riech ran rough shot on Europe,I think we can agree it would be a much different landscape.I make a lot of smart ass comments,but this wasn't one of them.I think no matter how we achieved victory in Ww2good did prevail over evil.
    maybe i missed the point..sorry,im a little sensitive with this thing..cos other countries open the doors when nazis pass,and my country bleed so much to hold..and my family lost so many relatives and my dad was born during the war..and his first year was so taugh cos of this.
    No worries.
  • northcountrygirl
    northcountrygirl Montréal, Canada Posts: 136
    Sigh! All we are saying...is give peace a chance....
  • i_lov_it
    i_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    northcountrygirl said:

    Sigh! All we are saying...is give peace a chance....

    Yes Agreed :)

  • eldarion75
    eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    So now we're dealing with the US contradicting themselves. Always banging on about democratically elected governments, but not in the case of Palestine, cos they're terrorists.
    They aren't. They have a democratically elected government that is defending itself(pitifully) against Israeli war planes, battleships drones and ground attacks
    Typical.
    US media is lying, US Government is lying to protect their sole ally and foothold in the Middle East(also loaded with nukes they've given them) and the reality is Gaza sits on 7 trillion cubic metres of gas.

    And that's really what this is all about.
    I'd suggest those defending Israelis action read some other reports that aren't US based. You're not getting the truth told to you at all.
  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,234
    quimby20 said:

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    PJammer4life said:

    Eddie is a good man..someone's gotta take the torch from John Lennon....

    Ed may feel enough internal pressure already. Let's not add.
    His own words brought on the torch passing from John Lennon. But that''s a good thing. They are both great men.
    Eddie will never be John Lennon.... Period
    PJ_Soul said:

    badbrains said:

    Haywood Yablomee said:

    People that vote in a terrorist party to run their government DO NOT deserve "peace & prosperity". Now go back in hiding, Krist.

    backseatLover12 said:

    http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/krist-novoselic-comments-on-israel-palestine-conflict-defends-vedder-20140721

    Krist Novoselic Comments on Israel-Palestine Conflict, Defends Vedder

    "The people of Palestine and Israel deserve peace and prosperity," the bassist wrote. "It is time to stop repeating the same old arguments, dogma and hate speech. It is the knuckleheads on both sides that should be criticized and not the singer from a rock band. In addition, both sides need to make hard decisions about finding a settlement to the catastrophe that is Israel/Palestine."

    And what people would u be referring to? Because people have been posting FOR YEARS links and articles showing BOTH sides of terrorists running BOTH governments. Sharon and his Stern Gang, pretty fucken brutal.
    And don't forget about the people who didn't vote for whoever is in charge. Or the people who didn't vote at all. Or the people who voted poorly but didn't know any better and/or were lied to by those running in the election, as is the case for pretty much all elections. Since when did we blame voting citizens for the corrupt actions of a government to the point where we say that they don't deserve safety and liberty, as though they even have a real clue what the government is going to do, no matter what they said during an election campaign?
    very nicely put.

    blinkers are not good for your objectivity.
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    eldarion75 said:

    So now we're dealing with the US contradicting themselves. Always banging on about democratically elected governments, but not in the case of Palestine, cos they're terrorists.
    They aren't. They have a democratically elected government that is defending itself(pitifully) against Israeli war planes, battleships drones and ground attacks
    Typical.
    US media is lying, US Government is lying to protect their sole ally and foothold in the Middle East(also loaded with nukes they've given them) and the reality is Gaza sits on 7 trillion cubic metres of gas.

    And that's really what this is all about.
    I'd suggest those defending Israelis action read some other reports that aren't US based. You're not getting the truth told to you at all.

    And here I thought it was because of the boogeyman (Hamas) coming to take over the world!
  • eldarion75
    eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    To be totally honest using history in any sense to justify what's going on is reall ridiculous. 'This happened us so we're allowed to do this'. BS. Innocent people are being slaughtered right now. That's what's important. And that's what should take front and centre. Not the usual myopia of Israel and it's supporters.
  • eldarion75
    eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    edited July 2014
    and i suppose the IDF's own soldiers are lying too...

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/as-an-exsoldier-in-the-israeli-defense-forces-ive-seen-how-shockingly-we-treat-palestinians-9607267.html

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/08/israel-soldiers-speak-out-brutality-palestine-occupation
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  • shortstack
    shortstack Posts: 2,339
    eldarion75 said:

    So now we're dealing with the US contradicting themselves. Always banging on about democratically elected governments, but not in the case of Palestine, cos they're terrorists.
    They aren't. They have a democratically elected government that is defending itself(pitifully) against Israeli war planes, battleships drones and ground attacks
    Typical.
    US media is lying, US Government is lying to protect their sole ally and foothold in the Middle East(also loaded with nukes they've given them) and the reality is Gaza sits on 7 trillion cubic metres of gas.

    And that's really what this is all about.
    I'd suggest those defending Israelis action read some other reports that aren't US based. You're not getting the truth told to you at all.

    i thought israel's expansion and recruiting of more jews is to prepare for the end of days.
    did you see me? i saw you.
  • eldarion75
    eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    funny you mention it, a jewish pal of mine, born and raised here in ireland, has been offered an obscene amount of money to relocate and settle in 'new territory', meaning once theyve cleared all the rubble from Gaza and the new illegal expansion starts being developed, there'll be new homes for jews from around the world to move into..this offer is being made to jews randomly placed all over the world.
  • eldarion75
    eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    edited July 2014
    and for these four little guys who got murderered by an IDF naval battleship for playing football ..
    image
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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    eldarion75 said:

    and for these four little guys who just happened to shot down by the IDF for playing football ..
    image

    Sickening, absolutely sickening. Some fucken soldiers the idf are. Can't fucken tell the difference between 10 year olds playing soccer and so called terrorists. Oh wait, ALL Palestinians are terrorists! How can I fucken forget! Thanks congress! Thanks senators and of course how can I forget, thank you pres Obama. Thanks for proving to me (after I voted for you) that you truly are one of them. A chosen one.
  • eldarion75
    eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    get them while they're young seems to be the IDF motto
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,760
    eldarion75 said:

    So now we're dealing with the US contradicting themselves. Always banging on about democratically elected governments, but not in the case of Palestine, cos they're terrorists.
    They aren't. They have a democratically elected government that is defending itself(pitifully) against Israeli war planes, battleships drones and ground attacks
    Typical.
    US media is lying, US Government is lying to protect their sole ally and foothold in the Middle East(also loaded with nukes they've given them) and the reality is Gaza sits on 7 trillion cubic metres of gas.

    And that's really what this is all about.
    I'd suggest those defending Israelis action read some other reports that aren't US based. You're not getting the truth told to you at all.

    Just because they were elected doesn't mean they can't be a terrorist organization as well.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • SivanMerili
    SivanMerili Ashdod, Israel Posts: 133
    edited July 2014
    Sorry. Trully sorry..
    Im very sorry for not dying.
    Sorry that my government is protecting me...
    Sorry for having an iron-dome defending us from the missiles attack from gaza...
    Not. Im not sorry at all. Im sorry for few other things; Im sorry for not being able to show you the fucking horror tunnels that hamas diged into Israeli territorys to commit terror acts towards israeli civilianze (kidnapping, mass killing)!!!
    That you people have the nerves to be in a place to judge any one of us here without living, knowing learning it.
    Im sorry that youre not part of this.
    I wish every one of you to feel the same we feel here in Israel.
    I trully do, from all my heart.
    And be sure that I (we) will expect you from not doing anything to protect your selves. I will call you murderers, baby killers, just cause your only wish is to protect your selves and your beloved ones from terror.
    Its a war, its a war against terror!!!
    Yes, there is no reason for dead civilianze in both sides, but its inevitable in war conditions.
    We have lost more then 4k inocent civilianze in terror attacks over the years, 25 soliders in the last 3 days in a protect operation from terrorist invasion to an Israeli community through the death-tunnels. 2 inocent civilianze died by a direct strike of a gazan missiles (tens injured).
    We are still fighting the terror. And we will keep doing it till its be over.
    Im not here to even apologize for that.
    If some will say something differente you are hypocrite or stupid or both.

    I had enough with this.
    Youre welcome to block/kick me out of here if you feel its the right thing to do. But if you still keeping me here, dont expect from me to keep silence when some here are judging me, us over a situation they have no clue about!
    Enough is enough!!!

    Im not planing to let you call me/us murderers.

    With all my best wishes to you..
    A damn proud Israeli civilian!
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,760
    edited July 2014
    @-)
    I am sorry you're so upset SivanMerili, but I think you're missing the point if you think everyone here is against you as an Israeli citizen. I think everyone wishes the best for you and everyone else who lives in Israel, and we all want peace for all of you people in the region no matter what side of the wall you're on.
    This will only start to happen if all Israelis and all Palestinians can get rid of their anger and move forward instead of focusing on what has happened in the past.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • eldarion75
    eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    PJ_Soul said:

    eldarion75 said:

    So now we're dealing with the US contradicting themselves. Always banging on about democratically elected governments, but not in the case of Palestine, cos they're terrorists.
    They aren't. They have a democratically elected government that is defending itself(pitifully) against Israeli war planes, battleships drones and ground attacks
    Typical.
    US media is lying, US Government is lying to protect their sole ally and foothold in the Middle East(also loaded with nukes they've given them) and the reality is Gaza sits on 7 trillion cubic metres of gas.

    And that's really what this is all about.
    I'd suggest those defending Israelis action read some other reports that aren't US based. You're not getting the truth told to you at all.

    Just because they were elected doesn't mean they can't be a terrorist organization as well.
    50 years of American foreign policy agrees with you.
  • SivanMerili
    SivanMerili Ashdod, Israel Posts: 133
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    PJ_Soul said:

    @-)
    I am sorry you're so upset SivanMerili, but I think you're missing the point if you think everyone here is against you as an Israeli citizen. I think everyone wishes the best for you and everyone else who lives in Israel, and we all want peace for all of you people in the region no matter what side of the wall you're on.
    This will only start to happen if all Israelis and all Palestinians can get rid of their anger and move forward instead of focusing on what has happened in the past.

    at time you people will realize that the war against hamas is against a 'jihad' ideaology and not occupation, you will understand the need to clean Gaza from terrorists.
    This is why im upset. Becuse some people have the nerves to judge us for fighting terror without knowing the reasons.
    The occupation issues are taking care in some other path, with the west bank.
    Its realy realy complicated.

    And in still behind my wishes giving you (those who dare to judge) the privilege to feel the same we do.

    Regards from A DAMN PROUD ISRAELI.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,760
    SivanMerili said:

    W

    PJ_Soul said:

    @-)
    I am sorry you're so upset SivanMerili, but I think you're missing the point if you think everyone here is against you as an Israeli citizen. I think everyone wishes the best for you and everyone else who lives in Israel, and we all want peace for all of you people in the region no matter what side of the wall you're on.
    This will only start to happen if all Israelis and all Palestinians can get rid of their anger and move forward instead of focusing on what has happened in the past.

    at time you people will realize that the war against hamas is against a 'jihad' ideaology and not occupation, you will understand the need to clean Gaza from terrorists.
    This is why im upset. Becuse some people have the nerves to judge us for fighting terror without knowing the reasons.
    The occupation issues are taking care in some other path, with the west bank.
    Its realy realy complicated.

    And in still behind my wishes giving you (those who dare to judge) the privilege to feel the same we do.

    Regards from A DAMN PROUD ISRAELI.
    No one supports terrorists. Just peace.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • shortstack
    shortstack Posts: 2,339
    SivanMerili said:


    The occupation issues are taking care in some other path, with the west bank.
    Its realy realy complicated.

    explain this, please.

    did you see me? i saw you.
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