10c / Pearl Jam should be ashamed for not being honest about Petty shows

Veddernarian

TheVoiceInsideMyHead wrote:

again, i call bullshit. first of all, if you have all of this evidence gathered from research, then POST IT. don't just say he has valid points. because i'm pretty sure we knew before tickets went on sale that (a) pearl jam was going to be on FIRST and (b) they were going to play around an hour and a half.

to say they didn't hold up their end of the deal because they played 80 minutes instead of 90 is splitting hairs. whoopdee-freakin'-doo, you missed out on one or two songs. and all you whining moaners out there know i'm right when i say that if they HAD played 90 minutes, you'd have been screaming for 100.

again, maybe you're right. maybe they pulled the wool over your eyes. but don't just say it. PROVE IT!

I actually read all the articles I post, and am pretty well known on this board for being factual as I research things out. 80mins, 90mins, 100mins are very short for a PJ show. The 2003 average show was about 2 hrs and 15 minutes. That's 135 minutes. Also, Encore#2 is often where unusual things happen. So people, when they think of "A Pearl Jam Concert"... What comes to mind? 2 to 2 1/2 hour show. 2 multi-song encores. And the sense that when the encores are coming; be prepared for anything. OK- so with a 80/90/100 minute show and no encore, I feel like the guy in the back of the plane when the hostesses finally makes it to you and all that's left is the vegetarian onion souflet. Sort of a feeling like something is flashed at me but I cant experience the "full thing" that everybody raves about. Remember, these are my feelings about this situation. Again, to me PJ is too big and too good to be opening for others.

applenut

You're all a bunch of fucking idiots. No one made you pay to go, no one promised you anything.

A full set is a full set of music. Not fucking encores, not 2 hour sets. It's as if you guys have no common sense.

The funniest part is that Eddie and the band must read this shit, if they do, and find you all to be pathetic. You're all the type of people the band hate.

You don't have to go to every show. The band doesn't have to meet your every desire every night they play. They don't have to play the songs you want to hear. They don't have to play for 3 hours. You don't have to go!

What a bunch of whining losers.

applenut

Veddernarian wrote:

All that stuff you said is true, with the fact that it was disclosed well after the ticket sale. I am not going to argue with you because people have different preferences and tolerate different things. I don't think I could have made "how I would feel" any clearer. I'm just glad that in LA, it appears like it will be an average show. Which will be great because an average PJ show is absolutely awesome. I'm glad it won't be one of those "special circumstances" like a combo with Petty or the Rolling Stones. Good God, having to endure having to see the Stones to get a glimpse of Pearl Jam. Ifr the ticket wasn't $40billion, I'd probably get up and leave.

I think too many of you idiots simply ignored everyone who kept saying Pearl Jam would play first, they are an opener and nothing more, the set won't be longer than 90 mins, don't expect encores, etc.

It's not 10 club's and Pearl Jam's fault too many people ignore common sense and fact and always seem to have some sort of false sense of reality and hope.

applenut

PJ & Dylan = Muse wrote:

You are paying a lessor price to see them both that would be paid to see the Stones, Bon Jovi or U2 by themselves. I mean think about the current concert ticket price landscape!

That is not true.

josevolution

whaaa whaaa whaaa whaaa whaaa whaaa ,this board should be called whinee assholes board .

GeorgeinNY

I could understand feeling a bit put off since you paid a 100 bucks and didnt get two full concerts- you got half a Pearl Jam show, and Tom Petty show which for many of us aint nothing special, you would have to PAY ME to go see Tom Petty again.

I think the tip off should have been the starting time, if it was 6:30 at least you could really expect 2 full shows.

Also not liking Tom Petty has nothing to do with his age, he just plain doesnt do it for a lot of people(bland uninteresting music?). Id rather see Phil Lesh and Friends any day of the week, and he is older than TP, but rocks/jams twice as good.

markinsand

LifeWasted21 wrote:

you guys ar enuts. pearl jam played about 85 minutes, petty didnt play that much longer.

petty didnt go on untill about 10 o r so and played just about untill 1145.

pearl jam went on at 730 on the dot and played for damn near 90 minutes.

sounds like the set change of an hour took a lot of valuable time, that is too bad.

npaul

The only thing that disappoints me is seeing that Pearl Jam didn't do an encore. One, two or five songs however it long may have been, it should have been fulfilled. Yes, they are limited on time with these Petty shows, but they have been advertised as a co-headliner. Consider it an unwritten rock n roll tradition that encores happen with headliners. To me PJ had simply been reduced to a featured opener with these shows. Much like them opening for the Stones.

PJ and Petty have quite a different fan base. While this lineup looks good on paper it just doesn't work, and it is compounded by the amount of money we all paid. Put it this way, there are enough fans for Petty and PJ to fill the arena for both nights. A fair solution would have been to swap set times one night to the next, or simply to change it all together and have a Pearl Jam show one night and a Petty show the next without the other act.

shadowcast

applenut wrote:

You're all a bunch of fucking idiots. No one made you pay to go, no one promised you anything.

A full set is a full set of music. Not fucking encores, not 2 hour sets. It's as if you guys have no common sense.

The funniest part is that Eddie and the band must read this shit, if they do, and find you all to be pathetic. You're all the type of people the band hate.

You don't have to go to every show. The band doesn't have to meet your every desire every night they play. They don't have to play the songs you want to hear. They don't have to play for 3 hours. You don't have to go!

What a bunch of whining losers.

I couldn't agree more, some of the Jamily are "Little bitches". Then they bitch about staying through a set of the Rolling Stones!!!!! The fucking Stones they are bitching about!!!!!! Jesus!!!!! PJ is my favorite band but I am totally ready for some PJ and Petty!!!! Petty is one the best rockers of all time!!!! Along with my favorite band, what's the problem???? Yeah us pEaRl jAm fans have it real rough in life don't we. We have seen 5 shows this year and still aren't happy, suck it up you spoiled little ass clowns!!!!!!

markinsand

applenut wrote:

You're all a bunch of fucking idiots.

Great point!

markinsand

Again why full ticket price for PJ when it's only 1/2 a show? Bootlegs are 2 for 1, why wasn't the ticket price?

hsewif

Faceless Man wrote:

Again why full ticket price for PJ when it's only 1/2 a show? Bootlegs are 2 for 1, why wasn't the ticket price?

Because it's Tom's Party and he set the price?

shadowcast

Do some of you even enjoy the shows you go to??? Or are you out there with your stop watch and note pad looking and writing down the set-list every show???? ENJOY THE SHOW!!!!!!!! Relax.......have some fun for christ sake. Don't be such a critic and watch and absorb the music. I promise you that you will have a much better time. It's PJ and it's all good........

High Fidelity 2000

hrd2imgn wrote:

Not to mention our seast are watered down with petty fan club members too. So in essence we pay 2X, get 3/4 and sit 2X farther away. What does that equal??? 3 total hours of Pearl Jam for the price of 6. Oh wait we get a free cd or down load, or in otherwords nothing extra! WooHOO

BAD JOB Ten Club

Well DUH. I could have told you that's what you'd get 2 months ago when they announced it. In fact go search my old posts for proof.

Every "co-headlining" show anyone has ever put on has historically been 90 minutes each. 80 minutes, a few short, but anyone who expects close to 2 hours of PJ is dead wrong. The people I worry about is Denver, where the ten club tour site says "special shows with Tom Petty" instead of "coheadlining shows with Tom Petty" like the other 4. Good luck denver.

High Fidelity 2000

Faceless Man wrote:

sounds like the set change of an hour took a lot of valuable time, that is too bad.

They were done changing the set, the Heartbreakers were just backstage finishing their blunts. Same thing happened when I saw Petty back in '02. At least this time, he didn't leave the stage for 10 minutes with no announcement after less than an hour, which is what happened in 02. Apparently there were techincal problems (or they were just needing a blunt) and everyone left the stage for 10 minutes. People didn't know if it was over or time for an encore or what. Very unprofessional.

LifeWasted21

17 songs is a half a pj show? oh i didnt know they played 34 song sets on a regular basis.

youwere cut short 5-7 songs, calm down.

Veddernarian

freeworld4u&me wrote:

I couldn't agree more, some of the Jamily are "Little bitches". Then they bitch about staying through a set of the Rolling Stones!!!!! The fucking Stones they are bitching about!!!!!! Jesus!!!!! PJ is my favorite band but I am totally ready for some PJ and Petty!!!! Petty is one the best rockers of all time!!!! Along with my favorite band, what's the problem???? Yeah us pEaRl jAm fans have it real rough in life don't we. We have seen 5 shows this year and still aren't happy, suck it up you spoiled little ass clowns!!!!!!

The Stones look like a bunch of monitor lizards. Mick's voice was bad when it was at it's best. But usually sounds like one of those new air powered low water-usage toilets. They dance around like Michael Jackson. Their performances are like a circus. Everything is timed to lighting and effects. There is no passion. They are like a bunch of performing elephants. Same thing every time. 10zillion backup singers and misicians. A total Las Vegas act. Why don't they just do what Celine Dion, Elton John and Wayne Newton does. Hole-up in the MGM Grand for a couple of years straight. Did I mention ticket prices. What a bunch of wanks. Lemmings will follow anything.

Pearl Jam is maybe the only music inspired act left around. The rest is the equivalent to jury duty. Why should I have to sit through jury duty and for it, get a shorter Pearl Jam show? I don't HA HA HA HA HA. Because I'm going to see them in LA and fortunately enough, one of these bad ideas hasn't been cursed upon LA. But all of you others who don't mind whatever gets bestowed upon you, enjoy the reptile exhibit and the brief set of good music while you're waiting. See ya suckas!!!!!!!!!!!!!

applenut

Veddernarian wrote:

Pearl Jam is maybe the only music inspired act left around.

Get out more.

Ignorance is bliss around here

GeorgeinNY

you dudes are wrong to complain about the complainers, if its co-headlining I expect full concerts from both acts especially when the price on the ticket is double the normal price.

Also why do you say that because you have double headliners you have expect shorter sets? what about Phil Lesh and Friends and Trey concerts, band hits the stage at 6pm? what about the Yeah Yeah Yeahs and Sonic Youth? doors open 5, expected start time 6 PM? Looks like they are planning ahead to make sure both bands get full sets in, no?

applenut

GeorgeinNY wrote:

you dudes are wrong to complain about the complainers, if its co-headlining I expect full concerts from both acts especially when the price on the ticket is double the normal price.

Also why do you say that because you have double headliners you have expect shorter sets? what about Phil Lesh and Friends and Trey concerts, band hits the stage at 6pm? what about the Yeah Yeah Yeahs and Sonic Youth? doors open 5, expected start time 6 PM? Looks like they are planning ahead to make sure both bands get full sets in, no?

Yea, and in this case they weren't.

Doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. I think Phil Lesh and Trey are a little different than Pearl Jam and Tom Petty anyway, but that's a different topic.

You got full sets. Petty is the premier headliner, goes on 2nd, and gets the encore set. That's pretty much the difference.