10c / Pearl Jam should be ashamed for not being honest about Petty shows

markinsand

It appears the set in St. Paul tonight was 17-18 songs and about 1 hour 20 minutes...I was hoping for 1 hr 45 min, could jam 6-7 more

DeLukin

Do "full sets" exclude encores? If so, sounds like 18 songs in 80 minutes is about right.

jammypearledved

I thought this show was a split bill. Therefore each sharing approx 3 hr show. Sorry you're upset, but a little surprised it wasn't expected.

markinsand

DeLukin wrote:

Do "full sets" exclude encores? If so, sounds like 18 songs in 80 minutes is about right.

when i asked on 3 different occasions i was never responded to

my only hope is the summerfest dates say "co - headlining" while the rest say "special night with..."

i know 10c works their asses off to do good but they were very political when answering this question... just upsetting, my emotions are coming out in my words right now... I'll get over it, but it just stinks...

NothinGBetteRPJMaN

Yup that is about a full set. And I was pretty sure reading on the website that they would be playing about 90 minutes. I hope the show I go to they make it to 90 minutes not 80 or I demand a refund!

And plenty of people have said this on the boards too. Just read the boards and you would have known it would be a full set-18ish songs-90 minutes

markinsand

jammypearledved wrote:

I thought this show was a split bill. Therefore each sharing approx 3 hr show. Sorry you're upset, but a little surprised it wasn't expected.

well maybe there are curfews at the other venues but Summerfest runs till 12 midnight... don't tell me PJ can't go on at 730, get off by 930, allow a 1/2 hour for a set change and petty go on at 10 till 12am. It can be done, maybe that is the case for Summerfest.

It would have been nice if they told fans straight up, here's the deal, PJ will share x amount of time at this venue, that's the deal, take it or leave it. Unstead it was danced around. Just my opinion.

Im not surprised just very disappointed now that it's here and my optimism has been shot down

pjl44

Here we go...

I think it's pretty obvious they'll play a shorter set when they're "co-headlining" rather than "headlining." I certainly can't speak for each individual person, but I think this is pretty much what most people expected. That said, I certainly feel for those who aren't Petty fans and these are the closest shows on this tour.

Gators76

18 songs is a full set for %99.9 other bands. How can someone expect 2 hours and 25-30 songs for an OPENING or CO headlining act.

I would be pissed if this were the only show I was going to see. But its not like each act is going to play 2 hours. It sucks for the people that this is the only show they will get to.

markinsand

pjl44 wrote:

Here we go...

I think it's pretty obvious they'll play a shorter set when they're "co-headlining" rather than "headlining." I certainly can't speak for each individual person, but I think this is pretty much what most people expected. That said, I certainly feel for those who aren't Petty fans and these are the closest shows on this tour.

80 minutes though? yes it's obvious we wouldn't get 2 1/2 hours thats expected but at least 100 min...

I don't have time to read the boards.... so my complaint is a recycle and i'm sure it will fade..... plus i'm holding out hope that the longer curfew in Milwaukee add's 1/2 hour to each band.

Ok I'm done, thanks for listening...

hrd2imgn

They said repeatedly, full sets, and as others have mentioned we never received responses on clarifying what that means. The same no response in regards to ten club ticket window people taking bribes to give better seats.

How the hell are we supposed to know a full set means no encores etc unless they tell us or respond to us?

I think is is BULL SHIT we payed twice as much for 3/4 the show and were led on to think it'd be a full show. Co headlining or not it is pretty silly for the people in charge to word things so confusingly and never offer clarification when requested.

Not to mention our seast are watered down with petty fan club members too. So in essence we pay 2X, get 3/4 and sit 2X farther away. What does that equal??? 3 total hours of Pearl Jam for the price of 6. Oh wait we get a free cd or down load, or in otherwords nothing extra! WooHOO

BAD JOB Ten Club

jammypearledved

Faceless Man wrote:

well maybe there are curfews at the other venues but Summerfest runs till 12 midnight... don't tell me PJ can't go on at 730, get off by 930, allow a 1/2 hour for a set change and petty go on at 10 till 12am. It can be done, maybe that is the case for Summerfest.

It would have been nice if they told fans straight up, here's the deal, PJ will share x amount of time at this venue, that's the deal, take it or leave it. Unstead it was danced around. Just my opinion.

Im not surprised just very disappointed now that it's here and my optimism has been shot down

Yeah, i can understand the disappointment. Sorry you're bummed.

KRANG

I think that everyone is forgetting something here. These shows when they were first announced on the Pearl Jam website were labelled as Tom Petty being the opening act for PJ. It was not until the tickets actually went on sale that it was labelled as a "co-headlining" show. I remember this very clearly because i phoned my friend as soon as the concerts in St. Paul were announced and told him Petty was opening for PJ, because thats what it said on the website.

markinsand

jammypearledved wrote:

Yeah, i can understand the disappointment. Sorry you're bummed.

hey , thanks man... im more bummed for my wife, i made her into a fan and her first show will be nothing compared to what i love and know... she'll be fine with that but it bugs me. I'm going both nights and don't mind petty but I was just hoping, ya know...

markinsand

hrd2imgn wrote:

They said repeatedly, full sets, and as others have mentioned we never received responses on clarifying what that means. The same no response in regards to ten club ticket window people taking bribes to give better seats.

How the hell are we supposed to know a full set means no encores etc unless they tell us or respond to us?

I think is is BULL SHIT we payed twice as much for 3/4 the show and were led on to think it'd be a full show. Co headlining or not it is pretty silly for the people in charge to word things so confusingly and never offer clarification when requested.

Not to mention our seast are watered down with petty fan club members too. So in essence we pay 2X, get 3/4 and sit 2X farther away. What does that equal??? 3 total hours of Pearl Jam for the price of 6. Oh wait we get a free cd or down load, or in otherwords nothing extra! WooHOO

BAD JOB Ten Club

then people might not have bought as many tickets to the presale! it was a shitty move but I'll give 10c a pass, I've calmed down a bit, maybe they didn't even know at the time how it would all shake out...but at least tell us up front.

StateOfLoveBoatCptn.

DeLukin wrote:

Do "full sets" exclude encores? If so, sounds like 18 songs in 80 minutes is about right.

exactly...an encore is just a bonus. should I get pissed if they only do 2 encores instead of 3, or only one instead of 2? be happy you saw em. you would have gone either way. g.r.e.e.d g.r.e.e.d.

jkb708

I think PJ has just spoiled many of you guys. I'm getting to go to my first PJ show and it will be in Denver next week. I have been wanting to go to a show for years now and my wife agreed to let us plan our vacation around it since they are not coming near me. AND I AM FREAKIN' PSYCHED!!!! I knew exactly what I would be getting and after seeing the St. Paul set, I'M STILL FREAKIN' PSYCHED!!!! For some bands, they never do more than 18 shows anyways.

I'm paying twice as much, travelling 8 hours, seeing less PJ, AND I CAN'T WAIT!!!! Many of my friends aren't having this opportunity, and don't forget about the shaft the south is getting right now.

Is anyone ever satisfied around here?

markinsand

StateOfLoveBoatCptn. wrote:

exactly...an encore is just a bonus. should I get pissed if they only do 2 encores instead of 3, or only one instead of 2? be happy you saw em. you would have gone either way. g.r.e.e.d g.r.e.e.d.

your missing my point, fine they play 80 power packed minutes, it's obvioiusly not up to them how long they get to paly for, just tell the consumer up front what the deal is, or what you know the deal to be.

sxysadie

A least you had them play near you.

markinsand

saw/things/clearer wrote:

I think PJ has just spoiled many of you guys. I'm getting to go to my first PJ show and it will be in Denver next week. I have been wanting to go to a show for years now and my wife agreed to let us plan our vacation around it since they are not coming near me. AND I AM FREAKIN' PSYCHED!!!! I knew exactly what I would be getting and after seeing the St. Paul set, I'M STILL FREAKIN' PSYCHED!!!! For some bands, they never do more than 18 shows anyways.

I'm paying twice as much, travelling 8 hours, seeing less PJ, AND I CAN'T WAIT!!!! Many of my friends aren't having this opportunity, and don't forget about the shaft the south is getting right now.

Is anyone ever satisfied around here?

I am happy for you, you will have a great time!!!!

I just wish the 10c would have spelled it out a bit clearer, what we will have here is a debate between fans who thought full set means 16-18 songs and those who are more optimisic and thought it meant 20-22 songs. I dont' think ANYONE expecte a 2 plus hour marathon.

I just wanted it to be clear and what really gets me going is they wait until now to post a note saying "since Pearl Jam will be playing shorter sets it's 2 for 1 bootlegs", why didn't they say that before tickets went on sale?

MasterFramer

saw/things/clearer wrote:

I think PJ has just spoiled many of you guys. I'm getting to go to my first PJ show and it will be in Denver next week. I have been wanting to go to a show for years now and my wife agreed to let us plan our vacation around it since they are not coming near me. AND I AM FREAKIN' PSYCHED!!!! I knew exactly what I would be getting and after seeing the St. Paul set, I'M STILL FREAKIN' PSYCHED!!!! For some bands, they never do more than 18 shows anyways.

I'm paying twice as much, travelling 8 hours, seeing less PJ, AND I CAN'T WAIT!!!! Many of my friends aren't having this opportunity, and don't forget about the shaft the south is getting right now.

Is anyone ever satisfied around here?

I think you summed it up right here dude... lots of people out there dont even get a chance to bitch about seating and setlists... If you have seen a Pearl Jam show you are lucky and blessed... now STFU!

DP13

c'mon now, I don't think the people that are upset about the shows being shorter than expected are saying we don't like PJ or we wouldn't go if Pearl Jam didn't play for almost three hours.....

what we are saying is that it was advertised as two bands playing 2 full shows and that is not the case. I could have gone to any of the shows but I took time off for these shows.