America's Gun Violence

mickeyrat

dudeman said:

There has been mention of "looking to England and Australia" on how to deal with America's gun violence. I'm pretty sure I've heard that from President Obama and Hilary. A ban and confiscation of privately owned firearms in the US certainly isn't out of the question.

mickeyrat said:

dudeman said:

mickeyrat said:

dudeman said:

No, I don't think arming more people is the solution. I think we need less people running around with guns. However, I believe in giving law abiding citizens the right to protect themselves and their families from those who wish to do them harm.

But for a few municipalities, that right is not prohibited.

Not yet.

and THAT comes across as paranoid.

That would require a constitutional amendment. Will never be more than talk.

Personally I am not calling for either. Simply want more uniform requirements, with rigorous training and some tracability to hold those folks accountable for poor securement or outright sale or gifting to folks who cant otherwise legally possess.

And lets get some real study of data. Not the patchwork shit we see now.

Its an important right to have. But as a nation we have moved a fair bit away from being a responsible people with something so powerful and life taking/altering.

oceaninmyeyes

nydailynews.com/news/crime/florida-teen-shoots-head-english-class-article-1.2429958?utm_content=bufferbbda3&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDailyNewsTw

Thirty Bills Unpaid

oceaninmyeyes said:

nydailynews.com/news/crime/florida-teen-shoots-head-english-class-article-1.2429958?utm_content=bufferbbda3&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDailyNewsTw

In this case, we can support the kid- hopefully he can recover and we can take steps to help him.

If he had turned the weapon on his classmates, this wouldn't be the case.

eddiec

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/11/17/3722968/nra-texas-rep-no-syrians-gun-access/
Tony Dale doesn't want refugees in Texas because they can buy guns. You can't make this up.

mattsl1983

Gun violence is on the decline. Look it up, fbi facts. How about we stop bickering and fighting about something the media wants us to and actually pay attention to what's going on in the world? Crazy I know I know right?...

Gern Blansten

mattsl1983 said:

Gun violence is on the decline. Look it up, fbi facts. How about we stop bickering and fighting about something the media wants us to and actually pay attention to what's going on in the world? Crazy I know I know right?...

How about you provide us with a source for that "fact"?

dudeman

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/resource-pages/fbi-releases-2014-crime-statistics

This indicates a decline in violent crime, not specifically gun violence but it's worth noting nonetheless.

It looks like violent crime has been on the decline in the US for the past 13 years according to the FBI.

dudeman

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/11/01/man-pulls-out-gun-in-chicago-corner-store-announces-robbery-and-points-it-at-employee-but-customer-with-concealed-carry-license-has-final-word/

This is interesting, too. The would-be robber had 10 felonies and had just been released when this happened.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

dudeman said:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/11/01/man-pulls-out-gun-in-chicago-corner-store-announces-robbery-and-points-it-at-employee-but-customer-with-concealed-carry-license-has-final-word/

This is interesting, too. The would-be robber had 10 felonies and had just been released when this happened.

'Extensive criminal history'... but his stepson is figuring something's not right.

Yup... something's not right. He's correct. His stepfather was afforded way too many opportunities to harm people.

HughFreakingDillon

dog shoots hunter:

http://www.winnipegsun.com/2015/11/24/dog-shoots-hunter

jnimhaoileoin

HughFreakingDillon said:

dog shoots hunter:

http://www.winnipegsun.com/2015/11/24/dog-shoots-hunter

Saw that one, even the dogs can't be trusted with guns now

jnimhaoileoin

Ah lads, are ye allowed just meander around the streets with automatic weapons?!

https://twitter.com/_shireenahmed_/status/669236388412440577

Thirty Bills Unpaid

jnimhaoileoin said:

Ah lads, are ye allowed just meander around the streets with automatic weapons?!

https://twitter.com/_shireenahmed_/status/669236388412440577

wow

eddiec

jnimhaoileoin said:

Ah lads, are ye allowed just meander around the streets with automatic weapons?!

https://twitter.com/_shireenahmed_/status/669236388412440577

Yes, it's called open carry and a lot of states are proud of it.
Embarrassing.

tempo_n_groove

eddiec said:

jnimhaoileoin said:

Ah lads, are ye allowed just meander around the streets with automatic weapons?!

https://twitter.com/_shireenahmed_/status/669236388412440577

Yes, it's called open carry and a lot of states are proud of it.
Embarrassing.

It's stupid things like this that get weapons banned and more rules to follow...

Also this guy is clearly "brandishing" his weapon which is illegal everywhere so he should be arrested.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

eddiec said:

jnimhaoileoin said:

Ah lads, are ye allowed just meander around the streets with automatic weapons?!

https://twitter.com/_shireenahmed_/status/669236388412440577

Yes, it's called open carry and a lot of states are proud of it.
Embarrassing.

A lot of people might look at that picture and figure that masked guy is awesome.

jeffbr

tempo_n_groove said:

Also this guy is clearly "brandishing" his weapon which is illegal everywhere so he should be arrested.

Agreed. He's gone beyond simple "open carry". The way he's holding the firearm, with finger ready to move to the trigger sure looks like brandishing to me. If he had the firearm slung over is shoulder, and not in a position ready to be fired, I'd recognize that as his right to open carry.

This guy should be arrested and cited for disorderly conduct. His actions are clearly done to cause alarm, and the firearm is being displayed in a threatening manner. I'd be freaking the fuck out if I were that poor woman.

PJ_Soul

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

eddiec said:

jnimhaoileoin said:

Ah lads, are ye allowed just meander around the streets with automatic weapons?!

https://twitter.com/_shireenahmed_/status/669236388412440577

Yes, it's called open carry and a lot of states are proud of it.
Embarrassing.

A lot of people might look at that picture and figure that masked guy is awesome.

That is true. LOTS of Americans will do that.

mcgruff10

jeffbr said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Also this guy is clearly "brandishing" his weapon which is illegal everywhere so he should be arrested.

Agreed. He's gone beyond simple "open carry". The way he's holding the firearm, with finger ready to move to the trigger sure looks like brandishing to me. If he had the firearm slung over is shoulder, and not in a position ready to be fired, I'd recognize that as his right to open carry.

This guy should be arrested and cited for disorderly conduct. His actions are clearly done to cause alarm, and the firearm is being displayed in a threatening manner. I'd be freaking the fuck out if I were that poor woman.

100% agree. Fucking wannabee john Wayne.

PJ_Soul

mcgruff10 said:

jeffbr said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Also this guy is clearly "brandishing" his weapon which is illegal everywhere so he should be arrested.

Agreed. He's gone beyond simple "open carry". The way he's holding the firearm, with finger ready to move to the trigger sure looks like brandishing to me. If he had the firearm slung over is shoulder, and not in a position ready to be fired, I'd recognize that as his right to open carry.

This guy should be arrested and cited for disorderly conduct. His actions are clearly done to cause alarm, and the firearm is being displayed in a threatening manner. I'd be freaking the fuck out if I were that poor woman.

100% agree. Fucking wannabee john Wayne.

More like a fucking wannabee evil Rambo. I can't believe those assholes. Are their hearts literally made of stone? How can they feel good about doing that?? Insane.